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@bladelinger
Hi. Its nice to have you here. I see this is your first post. Youre welcome. I must say that I am a junior member of this thread but I.ll quickly share my opinion for now pending when the seniors post a reply.I also have to zzzzzzzzzzzz. I have not listen to ekhart tolle nor read his message. No one is perfect not even sealed crossbearers.
The important thing is that you should have a good volition and earnestly strive to attain purity in your life. As for the message of ekhart tollie. I have not heard nor read it. But as we all know the truth is universal, the truth is one and with a keen intuition it can be recognized in all religions and their respective books or works. I have read portions of the quran, I have read the Baghavad gita. In all therre is something common and thats truth. With respect to finding more advancement I do not understand fully what you are going through so I wont comment on that.

lastly as for the message being too concentrated you have to read it a little at a time and not like a storybook all at once. I understand what you mean though. My friends have also complained to me about that. But I find that the 1931 edition is a lot simplified and devoid of all the heavy diction.
You miss the mark? get up and try again. Thats how a crawling child learns to walk. With continuous effort you'll get there. cheers

Thanks Justcool. sincerely we need more crossbearers like you. I feel so sad about whats going on now but I know its working out for our own good and spiritual development. I havnt been able to speak to anyone about this. Can you imagine? As I said Im an adherent and I only dissociated myself from the movement. What anoys me most is that there are many genuine crossbears who are in the dark especially the youths and younger ones who have been lured by their parents and thier guardians. But for sure genuine seekers will be lead to the truth in due time. This is a true test for all crossbearers and seekers.
I have access to the first part of the 1931 edition and will get everyother part when I can afford them. I tell you recognition dawned on me the moment I started reading the 1931 edition. The difference is clear. The new volumes are still useful and contain the truth but "in a mutilated form". Thats just my opinion.

I wish you strength my brother and I thank our creator that I can still interact with genuine crossbearers through the internet.

Indeed the grail message is the greatest message ever sent down to man and i am an adherent. But on the contrary I have dissociated myself from the grail movement due to my recent experiences. Theres a certain level of secrecy even within the ranks of crossbearer/grail movement members. Most of the grail cross bearers are genuine and desire to live in puirity but are unaware of many things that are purposely kept away from them. Especially from the younger crossbeares. I only started discovering new things when I became a member. The grail movement is towing the same line as the christian religion which they cannot tolerate or stand. I was recently embarassesed by a crossbearer leader in one of their reading centers in lagos. I had just relocated from another city to lagos. I went there to findout how I could start worshiping with them in lagos.It was only there i discovered that there are 2 factions of the grailmovement . I was being harrased and embarassed because i didnt belong to their faction. I thanked God for my experiences that day cause the truth began to dawn on me. How many crossbearers know that there is a 1931 original edition of the grail message. How many of them know what led to the 3volume grail message everyone is reading now. only a few stakeholders and they keep the knowledge from others for whatever reason. I no fit shout. The truth can never be buried

I have been strugling with myself deciding on how to reconcile my conflict of my desire to associate and worship with my fellow crossbeares but yet dissociate myself from the movemnt. I still use the grail message eventhough its not easy because I have not been in contact with other crossbearers to encourage me. But i thank God for everything. Anyone who feels he can quash my allegations is free to comment here. thanks

True. Please can someone answer olawales question. Will 2010 waec ie may/june 2010 result be accepted. thanks

just got mine too. Hope u get urs too. I think everyone that applied and attached the relevant documents witll be called. one luv

Thanks justcool. I really missed listening and discussing with other crossbearers. I used to have many crossbearers around me. I used to learn a lot from those discussions, as it helped me in appreciating the message on a higher level and in relation to real life situations. As it stands i will no longer have such benefits, as i moved to a new state. Only with maybe other adherents and crossbearer friends i meet as i live my life.

Thanks for ur advice once again.

Hello all, crossbearers and non cross bearers. I have learnt from experience over a long time not to argue over issues concerning the grail message. Even the message warns about such arguements. True seekers do not have to be convinced about the truth.

I am a cross bearer. Due to certain experiences i had with other crossbearers and other issues i stopped attending hours of worship and in the process kind of derailed and lost touch with the message. But i have never for once in my 3yrs of absence debunked the grail message as false. What i realized is that crossbearers are not perfect just like every other christian they have weaknesses and faults.

My question goes to cross bearers and adherents of the Grail message. I have been aware for awhile now that there are 2 factions of the grail movement in Nigeria and maybe worldwide. But i never really bothered asking about the details of seperation cos i felt it didnt matter to me. I recently decided to retrace my steps and start attending the grail service again and jumpstart my spiritual life by living according to the grail message.
But this complication and confusion has led me to rethink my decision. i have decided to be an adherent of the grail message, go to church but not attend the hours of worship anymore. At least until all of these confusion is sorted out. Cross bearers here would understand what i mean by the factions

I would be grateful if more light is shed on this issue of factions

i agree with most of your comment. immedaiately a man dies, what remains consious is the soul. On our journey back to the spiritual a soul dies in the ethereal planes releasing the spirit to continue its journey if its destined to get to the spiritua;. But lets all not ight over this. lets jsut argue constuctively . afterall we and life all started from the same process

jagunlabi:
Your SOUL is your BEING,who you really and truly are.The eternal you.The part of you that was never born and will never die.That your very SELF that religions do not want you to be aware of.
There are many terms for it;

-Soul
-Spirit
-Awareness
-Consciousness
-The Atman

They all mean the same thing,basically.

most of your comments.

alright post here then

cool. whats your YIM lets chat id like to hear your belief a little

ahhh, tudor you didnt ask for any clarification. You just started attacking me and i saw you as one of those nairaland troublemakers. You know we have alot of them here and i am always ready. no dulling in the wilderness. Anyway lets kill the beef i respect you u respect me. I have gotten a lot of knowledge outside the church so i would never criticize anyones belief. i love muslims, catcholics, budhists etc ok?  Handshakes?


[quote author=Tudór link=topic=292518.msg4137593#msg4137593 date=1246802045]Your question sounds stupid and that's why i asked for better clarification. .[/quote]

wirinet:
@ ephisi

I totally disagree with you for saying someone who does not believe in spirits or souls is a kid or does not know what he is doing on earth.




When you sleep at knight ; YOU DREAM. And dreaming is not peculiar to any race, religion or sex, we all dream. In fact all mammals and even birds are known to perform REM sleep, which is associated with dreaming. So the ability to dream does not indicate we have a soul or spirit.

All through my youth days i was trying to understand the difference between mind, soul and spirit, and up till today, i do not understand what those terms mean, maybe you can explain them.

@wirinet thats not why i called him a kid. We had a little disagreement elsewhere it cant be explained in one paragraph but based on my belief.
The spirit is the core of everyhuman being. It is the being that enters the foetus in a mothers womb at a certain stage in pregnancy. If you research you will find out that the child in a mothers womb starts forming from the point of fertilization and the foetus is lifeless until a spirit entere it. Consequently when the spirit leaves the body it causes death. The physicall body is just a covering for the spirit, thats why it is said ashes to ashes dust to dust. At death the body decays while the spirit leaves on. more on that later

On soul.
You may have to understand that Jesus christ said in my fathers house there are many mansions. What in understand is that ther are many planes of existence other than this earth.Have you asked yourself why some people see ghosts?But yet they cant feel them. Its cause their consitency is different from the physical body(thats a typical example of soul).ie a dead being still hanging around for one reason or the other. You have the spiritual realm, the ethereal realm the divine realm(only God exists here) and all these realms have diferent levels. Now Basically for a spirit being to exist in the level called the ethereal realm it must have a body and that allows it to operate in that realm and as such a spirit wearing a cloak in the ethereal becomes a soul. A soul wearing a physical body becomes a physical man. Have you wondered why animals like horses,dogs etc, see certain things we dont see? like when something bad is about to happen in a  certain locality they panik before it happens or lead its owner around danger.

Friend i can tak on an on, but thats not possible. let me know what you think. You msnt believe it it my own belief

i am not arguing with you. you have a right to your opinion. if your religion is science its ok. i asked a simple question that needed a simple answer. its just so happens that you wanted to show yourself. i understand, i understand

@tudor now i understand why you talk like a kid. You have absolutely no idea what you are doin on earth nor who you are. When you sleep at night what do you think sees all the things you see. Your twin brother.

it seems all you look for is trouble especially on a peaceful day like this. U cant even spell God correctly. The problem with you fanatical freaks is that you want everything to conform your way. I have a right to my style and if you dont like it forget or forget more

Read more, if you want answers call me, i cant talk here 08038588291

I have always known what opens me up spiritually and thats foreign praise and worships songs coupled with motivational preaching of the word. Im tired of going to church just to go to church. Guys please if you know any church that worships like this please post here.

afid ewo e ba ke mo

jamace, o mme kop. nko afo aya ka olypics a ke tang iko ibibio ano nyin, Nigeria.

Ndito Akwaibom, ami mme kom afid ewo. Well would love to relate with yall here. i can speak ibibio averagely but i dont think i can write. My bad. I hope im allowed to reply in english. lol

Michele you locked my thread. Why! How can nairalanders communicate would admins. Id like to know

Akwa-Ibom Isongo o! Just want to use this medium to relate with my people. Being a Lagos guy i know i have lost touch with home. Would love to discuss issues ( our way of life, our culture, entertainment and nightlife, youths amongst many others ) that affect us generally.

This is basically an avenue for us to socialize and for others like me to reconnect with home. Resident non indigenes are welcome. I will be moving to Eket soon and would love to make friends also.

@ nich u gone offline already. All these 10minutes men

@ nich u werent supposed to see that. Anyway theres nothing wrong with having fantacies. if ure bold enough answer the question
What ur greatest fantasy?

@ ifeleke
Read in between my lines. I said i wouldnt do it. Do you know what a play fight is at all. Play + fight = harmless

Hmmn, interesting thread. I am arrogantly nigerian,Nigerdelta, i am a down to earth guy who likes fun. I like to call my self a good guy with the necessary evils. I am not a womanizer but i love beautiful girls ( with necessary evils) girls who are down to earth intelligent,,non materialistic, reasonable. When i say necessary evils i mean every thing dats required to keep a relationship from being dry: sexual prowess,not boring, a babe who can dance and dress fire,generally know how to handle a guy and keep him coming for more. But then beauty comes first.

When we get talking i would eventually discover if u got my qualities. That would determine if ure for keeps or for play. Ladies always ask why do guys cheat. Is jsut like saying why do humans drink water. Guys have a natural tendency to cheat, in other words it is natural for guys to cheat,so definitely cheat if im ored. We are wild animals and your job as a lady is to tame us. But then as long as a guy or girl is not engaged you are allowed to cheat cos dating is a game, its a game of searching for whom u would eventualy end up marrying.


I wouldnt beat my wife for any reason what ever, if i have to id jokinly do it like a playfight.Not hard

As for stalking a girl, i wouldnt do that, that would make me look insecure, jobless and needy, if u re not feeling my steez there are many fishes in the ocean.But then you must feel my steez.

[size=5pt][i]Ah ah, my greatest fantasy is to date a chick 4-7 years older who would spoil me and i would treat like a lady. lol[/i]its just a fantasy sha and not all fantasies play out[/size]