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nairalanda1:
So the collapse of that tall building in Lagos meant that yourbas were killing themselves too.

Also the collapse of a building in the North some time ago meant hausas were killing themselves

Thanks for your clarification

Gabrielshow24:
Forgiveness of sins and Jesus dying are totally two different things and again "Jesus said that it may show that the " son of man"- prophecy of Daniel hath the power to forgive sins on earth"

You just misinterpret everything.

Did you even read what I wrote.
Did I mention Jesus as an angel ? The bible says a little lower has thou made him to Angels- referring to Jesus NO BE U SAID HE WAS REFERRING TO JESUS MOW
Your mockery do not hold any salt.
Jesus is the Son of God and because he was sent hence he is also a messenger of God for God sent him to deliver his message.
Even from science all these are attributes of an object and in this case (object of God).

By application, delivering the message of God he is termed a messenger. By divine heritage - Son of God, by Power - God(for God has given him all Power and Authority hence the fullness of God)
So
Jesus is God
Jesus is son of God
Jesus is son of a man
Jesus is a servant
Jesus is a messenger
Jesus is also angel..
So some can be a servant and also be son to someone
Can you claimed to be your father as yourself... Can two people claimed a person
Stop fulling yourself and accept reality on time

seeing God is in different forms or rather from theological perspective you can't see God in the physical form(through physical means) and live. But you can see God through means that relate or align with the spirit. you are just quoting English only no clue from the bible that is how king James form his bible too oo
That's why Stephen before his demise saw God and Jesus standing beside him(God). ehen in real life Abi in the comic book written by unknown authors.. I don't take joke from bible Abi is the Bible confusing itself
Isaiah's vision saw God seated on throne giving wonderful description of the awesomeness of God.
Revelations exemplifies on the personality of God. did he saw him in reality Abi for dream
And so on and so forth.
David said "the Lord to my Lord sit down on my right hand side while I make your enemies your footstool" does this verse claimed he saw God Abi you don't understand English language again bro🤣🤣🤣
Awww well even David wrestle God and broke his leg or arm and God told him he deafited him so inside the bible 🤣🤣🤣

Hence wisdom should tell that even this modern world we talk to one another from Miles away but we are not necessarily in close proximity to each other we can even do video call see one another we could as well use holograms to communicate but it won't diminish the aspect of seeing in person.

So when the bible said no man hath seen the God then you must understand the form/context of which they speak. maybe bible lie that Abi na another parable 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The self same bible no prophet as seen God face to face like Moses. stop twisting bible,it said no one had talk to God like Moses that what bible means not seeing him physically unless the verse that said no one can see God physically on earth is contradictory... Abi self the acclaimed bible is full of contradicting self....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But we also I understand that Moses told the Lord to show him his glory but the Lord told no man can see me and live hence the Lord showed him his rear it doesn't diminish the fact that a while back Moses was lauded as the prophet of Israel to have communicated with the Lord face to face but rather shows the expression of communication. Moses only here God voice and talk to him, he didn't see him physical stop twisting it as seeing God face to face

God speaks even in different forms as in the case of Elijah a small still voice and to Job from the whirlwind, to Psalmist the echoes of many water hence it doesn't diminish that the Lord spoke to them.
Alaye stop lying speaking to is different from seeing God physically that what bible said no one can se God physically
Hence when next you see that verse ask yourself what is the context before reading extraneous meaning to it.

Finally, I believe you have a dictionary you can as well educate yourself on the difference between Lord and God in order to save us from embarking on such a ridiculous question.

Gabrielshow24:
Context eludes you.
There's slight difference between lord and God but let's not get into it.
The context there is to show that the people are subject to him
Isn't that not self explanatory? show me how LORD IS DIFFERENT FROM GOD IN THE BIBLE stop parabullating jare

Jesus is the fullness of God that came specifically in the form of man to die for their sins. if it's the fullness of God why did the same God said in the bible
God can duel on the Earth 🤣🤣🤣
God is incomparable on earth..

Hence the attribute of death prevalent in man is also part of the loopholes which God put that men may be saved because he had in his mind that his son will die for our sins!
If Jesus died for yours sins the same Jesus that said man has his opportunity to forgive sins on his own


The bible says a little lower has thou made him to Angels- referring to Jesus Jesus is God/Angel/son of God/servant/ messenger of the God don't you find it confusing.

To show Jesus was a man having the fullness of God(it's like setting a range of numbers from the infinite set of numbers it doesn't negate the fact that those numbers can't be found within the infinite set(super set/universal set))
forget infinity human being are countable abeg...leave lies
Well the "he" interpretation of God goes back to God's name or rather introduction to his people and various instances after convey a strong message of divine masculinity. that not I asked in thOSE from can we use he for the animals, river, oil as the holy spirit involve in those stages

But even deep thought we make you see that all this are concepts used to help exemplify God further and God before the creation of this world must exist in higher form.

Another reason why "he" his mostly used is because it plays into the narration of "God gives" instead of the notable interpretation of she(known to receive).

There lots of reasons from the etymological meaning of the word to ancient semitic cultures as far back as the mesopotamian era that can be used to connote the use of "he" for God.

"As regards Adam.
Simple wisdom tells you that Adam had an interaction with God whether that interaction is mainly vocal is another matter but reason suggests that he must have seen the Lord perhaps in some form(wind, vision, whatsoever) that will serve as a feedback mechanism when he related with God" but the same bible said nobody had seen God but how can you claimed Adam see God with your simple wisdom🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Are you 5he one crating bible Abi na bible de contradict itself🤣🤣🤣🤣 wàhálà for too much lies

Touching idolatry the bible warned the Israelites not to make anything either as a depiction of men thought God to be based on the religions of Canaan and other civilizations around them.

It was a delimiter to ensure that they do not follow likewise in the traditions of neighboring villages which always looked to an object whenever communicating with God.

IamANigerianMan:
The sword Jesus meant was the word of God not the people to cut other people neck... The sword is confirmed in Ephesians

And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
-- Ephesians 6:17

Gabrielshow24:
First of scientifically all numbers are represented withing ♾️ infinity.

Hence it doesn't matter whether you want 2, 509, 5*10^100000000000. it's all represented or encapsulated within infinity.

Now back to the subject matter.
Satan was never called "Lord" in the bible.
Yes he was called prince of the power of air, God of this world is there different between God or lord because you claimed not but the verse you wrote here showed the bible called it God/lord etc
Stop shooting yourself in the leg
There goes your lie!

As regards God(Jesus) dieing it's the property of death known to mankind that he used to absorb(absolve) all men of their sins but you failed to mention he resurrected. my question is when Jesus died did he die as a God or as a human🤔

Secondly as regarding this death of thing-
Jesus asked the people why God is called the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and since God is also called the God of the living how come is this a name of God? (Paraphrased a little)

Now back to your far fetched point.
The holy spirit doesn't have seven forms and no where in the bible is it mentioned that the Holy spirit has seven forms or what you rather wanted to say may have been the seven gifts of God/manifestations of God's spirit.

Spirit of God is not limited to anything.
From the scriptures we see he moves as a cloud, whirlwind(air), lightening, oil, dove, fire etc so can we use he for all these form ..since your God is turning from one form to another

Gain understanding brother and have peace.
There are accounts of many that have seen the anthropomorphic form of God from shedrach, Meshach and Abednego seeing the son of man(that will rule over the works of God) to Adam seeing the "voice of the Lord God walking in the Garden" so Adam see God in Garden walking around why searched for Adam right?

Hence from accounts based on revelations from Isaiah, Ezekiel and others God has an anthropomorphic form which confirms the verse in Genesis: "let's make man in our own image" but the same bible said do not make anything in like image of God nothing can be compare to God

And on a personal note yea, I know my Lord and he knows me

Gabrielshow24:
Are there two moons?
Cause i fail to see how that is a miracle?
You claim he splitted the moon to two, look up do you see a half cleaved moon?
There goes your lie. you must only be whinnying yourself
Because at the middle of the month you will see a full moon...
And at the time of prophet when he said the God ordained him to be prophet and the pagans ask him to command the moon to spilt it into two and the have to come down near to near up him and which he did and it return up to be one again.. and the scientist saw this they claimed it was the astroids that strike the moon that cause the line on it 🤣🤣🤣 but deep down there throat they knows the moon spilted....

Anyone can have a parable after him.
Even tinubu has so many memes and linguas that have come to stay, many of which has inspired other wise words😂.
That's not a miracle if you don't know what miracle is, you should read up. just like all the parable made up in the comic books by unknown authors of different people claimed by having holy spirit 🤣🤣

As regards Joseph it's so visible you don't know what you are saying and you have half baked(falsified) information with you.
Where in the Genesis-Exodus did they refer to Joseph as King? Joseph wa reffered to as a Pharo not king don't twist it.. which is not correct.. backed up the archeologist

They made mention of him being the king's right hand man. STOP LYING AT THE TIME JOSEPH WAS A KING BIBLE REFFERED HIM AS PHARO NOT KING
Presidence was given to pharaoh was it not?
Why the lies? WHICH ONE IS PRESIDENT🤣🤣🤣🤣

As touching the false stories.
Look at the description of Jesus'(Isa's) birth in the Quran what a wonderful hullabaloo of a story! So what lies is that analysis it here let see if there is lie there

Do you want me to name more?

Finally regarding the Civil rights you so enjoy now the freedom of speech etc who do you think all this was derived from? which civil right are you saying
The one that say women shouldn't speak outside or in church
Which said they should only be asking there husband alone if they must speak or ask..🤣🤣🤣

Jesus brought or rather surmised the whole Judaic law into two: "Love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as your self" the same Jesus that said I didn't bring PEACE rather SWORD 🤣🤣🤣🤣you must b joking

This formed the basis of human right and his teaching also buttresses praying for the enemy, showing love to all(friend or foe) . This from the same bible that said if found dead meat don't eat it but give it to your foreign neighbor to it or sell it to foreigner 🤣🤣🤣🤣 why did bible is full of confused and contradictions self

I bet i can find the same in your Quran 🤕.
Starting from Islam itself means PEACE and no where you can meet civil rights that is greater than what Islam brought..
Islam even said you shouldn't harm yourself talkless of your neighbor.. what is so more beautiful than this... How much you want me to analyze it for you

So as far as Christians are concerned this is the summary of the Law and that's why we don't kill cows and goats because Yahweh only enjoy burnt offering or human sacrifice right🤣🤣🤣 which was much brutal...that why I bet you don't eat meat so far you don't like killing of cow and goat 🤣🤣🤣🤣 see how hypocrite you are shooting yourself from leg
,
do ablution because Jesus has shown us the way, not of works but by Grace, truth and love.
How can you say you love God? but did you know in the bible Jesus even did ablution for his disciples that peter need to asked why..🤣🤣🤣 you see where Christianity fails because Jesus was not showing them dancing steps or clapping but purifying there soul as we Muslim always do..
And yet blow people up, people that have not grievances against you because you are following the verse
"Kill the infidel" because Ukraine is fighting Russian does that justify me saying they that Christians are fighting Russian because God commanded them in the bible to kill🤔
how mighty white of Allah!

Gabrielshow24:
The major question was why men died and God doesn't. is Jesus now God by this claimed
Likewise why some are small, tall, big etc and God isn't likewise in those shapes. have you seen him to confirm

As for the first.
"It's not the will of God that any of the little ones should perish" but God commanded David, Moses and isreal to perish villages, their crops,animals woman and babies..
How can we justify that if he doesn't will to perish his creation..

Sin is the reason why men die.
God said to Adam if you eat of this tree " you will die"
Adam ate of it so technically he didn't die immediately but he died(and this death was not only physical it was also spiritual) what did you mean spiritually, he died he died we understand so what is spiritual there

As regards the second.
Abraham called God " the Possessor of heaven and Earth " in the same bible Satan was called lord.. he was even call the prince of the world so what is the point

The Lord when speaking to the Psalmist said " the Earth is my footstool"

Also when Solomon was opening(commissioning) the temple he said "even the whole heaven and Earth cannot contain you"

The psalmist again said "he(God) stretches the heaven as a piece of cloth"

All this are a depiction to show that we inherited the form(anthropomorphic form of God) as regards the size we are not necessarily the same size as God. forgot the anthropomorphic form God is not like human or animals God can never be inform of animals or human forget the lie. who man sleep animals sleep so did God also sleep

That's why many were skeptical how Jesus could claim to be God when God as they know of him from the scriptures is boundless and big.

But from scriptures we see the Holy spirit of God taking different forms depending on the circumstances involved to the Glory of God.
if holy spirit exhibit like 7 forms which one is the God own among the 7
Hence what you and I both know as dimensions(fixed) are not fixed at all.

And even this effect is present in nature from different reptiles regrowing lost tails, limbs and various organs.

Hence size doesn't matter at all.
And finally God with us (human form) - Jesus
Caps it all that whatsoever he wills to be he can be.
And to round up God told Moses:
"I am that I am so what is the meaning oo"

Gabrielshow24:
This is how I know that you are a son of folly.

Everything came from the spirit and as a consequence has a spirit.

It's just like saying that because stones are dormant doesn't mean they don't have energy within them because the energy is not in motion doesn't mean it's not present.

As regards the spirit if Christ said to the Jews that if men will not praise God that he will raise up stones to do so.

They might not have consciousness as you know it but they proceeded out from the spirit.

Gabrielshow24:
The so called human rights you so enjoy was as a consequence of Christ's teaching and behavior. If the so called human right are to enslave for 7years Islam deject it..
If it to rape a woman and later claimed responsibility either by true or by force Islam deject it..Islam don't support rapped to marry.

Unlike what is found in the shariah law.
Your book(Quran) is just a spin off and parody of the Torah, injeel that was present then.
Which one did Quran copied abeg list it and let analyze it as you said...

That's why there are so many gaffe stories. like which story is gaffe ..like calling Joseph king as archeologist later claim and bible called it Pharo which was proof wrong 🫣 tell us how many more you know

Your day to day activities were influenced by the self same people you hate and despise. like how expansiate please

From your use of prayer beads, to the bowing down in prayer what didn't you copy?
you mean true Christians bow down to God like we do and the fake one clapped to sculpture call Jesus because the bow down I don't understand how we copied it

Your Quran said every nation has its own prophet technically your leader was sent to the Arabs only. Your leader looking for acceptance from Jews remixed a lot of the stories from the bible probably because he was illiterate or his writer was just simply a man of folly irrespective he still couldn't justify his prophethood, infact Quran give more clarification on those fake story mixed up in the bible...
I know it must hurt so bad to be a prophet without a single miracle/healing to your name. maybe you fail to read all what he did
From the Quran itself
To the spilting of moon into two
To the proverb that everyone always if muhammed didn't go to mountain the mountain will come and meet Mohammed... because It was true.. I can least more for you

And to cap it up.
"He doesn't even know where he will end up in" you should read more about him where he said if you died as a Muslim paradise is sure for you but to die as Kaffir fire is sure for you
Who knows he might as well still be taking that tour in Hell? HELL is only a place for those who didn't follow his teachings
Perhaps you asked yourself if you are ready to face the consequences and tour of the tourment of the hell fire🫣

Gabrielshow24:
I said search the size ratio from Google not that I didn't have scriptural context to add.
The ratio was just a physical/scientific addition to buttress my point that dimensions are relative what you perceive as big might not necessarily be big at all from another perspective similarly small and hence as a result there is no end to how big or small a material can be.

Why am I not surprised by this your lack of comprehension?
🤨
Very pitiful

Gabrielshow24:
Everyone knows that duress is the reason Islam has lots of converts as regards slaves.

The Quran states that either the person accepts the teachings of the prophet or he dies am very sure that most people for fear of their lives accepted and became Muslims.
There is no such thing in the Quran always quote the verse if you are saying truth Rather the bible said it all because Christianity is all about duress......


Deuteronomy 13
6 “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, 7some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, 8you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. 9But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10You shall stone him to death with stones,

That's why Jesus said he that keeps his life shall lose it and he that lays down his life for his sake shall find it.

Christians don't force people to believe in their religion or die.
Aww what of the duetronomy I quoted there 🤣🤣🤣 booboo yourself not mee

Even though some certain acting under the flesh have performed some similar acts in the name of God but as written in the bible and as given by Christ we are to be peaceful toward all men. but Christ himself didn't bring peace but only sword to this world🤣🤣

That's why christians are very tolerant unlike your war infested regions under the guise of Islamic peace, the irony - peace. from where to where are/were Christians are tolerance 🤣🤣🤣🤣

7 years as regards the Jews releasing slaves is better than killing those that will not serve. 7 years of slavery with hard labour haba christians don't have a good heart....
Rather in Islam one you become Muslim you are free

As regards Saffiya we all know the circumstances regarding her becoming your prophets wife let's not mince words that it can from the bottom of her heart but rather as a consequence for longevity of life. Show us that it's not from her heart just as she told you naw.


Your "persuasion" is indeed "persuasion".

I can persuade with a gun pointed at you and likewise while playing video games together but one requires cogent and delicately thought response; the other a casual remark.

I wonder how Yahweh received his portion of 32booty of war is it by burnt offering again or they where sent to heaven in whirlwind to meet Yahweh I was in doubt clear it to me

Gabrielshow24:
First things first,
There is an agreement or rather a principle in this universe anything that is made must have a spiritual counterpart that ties it with the spirit world because in fact all things were originally spiritual before ever becoming physical.

Now the spirit counterpart rather put in modern language is the term "spirit"
Which by itself is rather vague in the sense that it could also be used as a representation of the conscious aspect of matter.

Now when I mean spirit above context demand I was talking about God's spirit not of Goats, cows and animals that were subtle added in order to give them a spiritual equivalent or rather vice versa their spiritual equivalent should become flesh as they are now.

As regards the size ratio you can browse it on Google and see I am not lying!

If you don't know something I understand it might at first seem like a lie that's where you either do your research or the person enlightens you properly.

HAPPINESSWEALTH:
this Islamic countries just like war ,for no reason ,
So Isrealles are now Christians Abi bibi naw Christians 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Or isreal herself are Christians






and they hate Christians ,



but pretends as if they care ,















no matter the peace massage you pass to them ,






as long as you are a Christian they will start war with you ,



they don't care about their innocent citizens dying with the war ,









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Gabrielshow24:
That's where you are getting this wrong. It doesn't matter the form. It's matter jare it's about the spirit. Which among the spirit,THE GOD OWN OR THE HUMAN OWN, ANIMALS OWN, NATURE OWN, which spirit are you talking about here abeg
Dimensions doesn't matter, God in the true sense is dimensionless hence theoretically he can assume any dimension he wants.

And one thing about tall, short etc is that they are subjective.
We are roughly the same height to the atom as the universe is to us BRO WE ARE NOT CLOSE OF THE SAME SIZE STOP LYING

As regards death, tiredness and sickness we all know what caused that. No need to draw unleveled comparisons.

Gabrielshow24:
Don't forget that your religion Islam is a slave trafficking fortress.
at least in the means of the bible after Moses' law there were set free after seven years which is different from what you find in the Shariah.
after 7years waw that was so grouse 😌 did you know once a slave is captive in Islam and he declare himself to join Islam his status as a slave will quickly change to a normal human.... Islam don't wait till 7years, Chaiii 7years of suffering abah no wonder they said the slave should obey his master in water he want and then it's ok for the master to suffer or do anything to his slave as long as the slave didn't die.
DONT FORGET THE 32,000 VIRGINS WAS NOT MUHAMMAD DOING AND ISLAM DIDN'T HAVE A RECORD OF SLAVERY AND CAPTIVE UP TO THAT IN HISTORY 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 CHAII
ISLAM DONT PERMIT, TO KILL ANIMALS OR HARM ANIMAL, FOODS AND CROP EVEN TO THE DRINKING WATER WHEN YOU'RE AT WAR..BUT HERE YAHWEH COMMAN TO KILL ANIMALS, DESTROYED THE FOODS AND CROPS. CHAIIIII
Now as regards 32thousand left for Yahweh that's hocum. you forgot they captured 32virgins according to Yahweh instructions but what left me wondering his how yahwey took his own share, did they burnt the lady as a BURNT offering to Yahweh or they send them to Yahweh to be enjoying the booty of war in heaven... Please help me to clearify it

No record of that in Numbers. You are just exaggerating.
are you saying no record of the 32000 virgins in the Numbers.. aaaaahh
You will find attached the story of Saffiya you can read more if you want

Gabrielshow24:
It the arts of warfare the invaders always do despicable things but the Lord's staying hand ensured the little ones were touched at least most the time. the lord who created them allowed Moses to captured the little virgins and turn a normal person to a slaves of others people and be using them for there own enjoyment don't you find it absord

You picking Moses to kill those people is a fancy picking technique. With context, the bible records the people of those lands doing far more despicable things. No I won't support killing of babies because Islam doesn't support it.. but the worse is that Moses even left 32 thousand virgins for Yahweh to enjoy.. but what i don't understand what did Yahweh want to do with them

Alright he made those men go into them after allowing these ladies to mourn for their parents and not touched for a month unlike they didn't touch them for how many months did you have proof for that or your based assumption
your Quran where your prophet conquered a Jewish territory and reversed the slave sharing of one particular Jewish lady because she was fine and went into her. did you have proof for that and the particular woman you said...

Gabrielshow24:
So you pick that and not the fact where man was made in the image of God.

The suppose human form(rather let me say anthropomorphic form) seems to be the elite ultimate form from the human form we can get any other form in the universe just by adding or taking away(it could be dimensionally)

When a man sleeps and sees himself(spirit) what form do they themselves?

So if God form is anthropomorphic then is spirit is likewise anthropomorphic.
And the spirit if God is not limited to this only hence showing the supernatural creativity, wisdom and power present in God.

olabrad:
Allah is a generic term for God. It is not a specific name for any God.

If you serve a dog, that dog is ur allah. If you serve a goat, the goat is ur allah. If you serve a stone, that stone is ur allah. If you serve YHWH, YHWH is ur Allah.

If you serve Sàngó, then Sàngó is ur allah. If you serve an Arab Idol, that Arab Idol is ur allah.

The allah in ur Quran is not God Almighty. It is a pagan idol with two right hands.

The allah in ur Quran is not God Almighty. It is a pagan idol with two right hands.

So, Muslims are pagans. You are not different from Aborisa. Èsìn iborisa ni èsìn Islam.

The only difference is that u muslims serve an Idol from a different country grin


If you read Quran 14:4 and Quran 42:7, you will see that Muhammad was only sent by his pagan allah to Arabs only. Muhammad not sent to Yorubas, Hausa or igbos

Gabrielshow24:
Strangely he is quite right but his words do him more harm. Humans were made in the image of God and the bible draws similarities between a man and his spirit (in the sense that they have the same form). Now the question is: does God and his Spirit have an anthropomorphic form?
If we inherited God's form then the first part of the question is settled now the real question lies in, is God's spirit likewise? anthropomorphic?

Gabrielshow24:
You quote the bible off point. Bible mentions taking captured teens as wife but frowned greatly on sleeping with another man's wife but your Quran on the other hand gave verses that even allowed married captured slaves to be intimacy gadgets and objects.
How convenient!!!