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Eruditor:
Lol

Greatihex

Let me spare you this one time.

I have to drag Conte with the same illogic people use to drag Pep.

How don't you get it?

I know Conte is a good coach.

patrickmuf:
You can't be so sure they were at their peak...

To be sincere, I think Pep is a fantastic coach, Mourinho too but he needs to reinvent himself to fit into the modern game...For me, the argument is unnecessary.

spillo1:
LMFAO So that's the other Messi he has created/made

spillo1:
You are spreading fallacy. Messi is a generational talent Be careful. Which other Messi has pep created?

Eruditor:
That team from 2009-2013. Peaks of teams usually don't last beyond 4 seasons. After it you have to rebuild.

Eruditor:
Your argument is stupid.

These same players were there when they went trophyless abi?

So how did a team with these players + Ronaldinho go trophyless. Then you sell Ronaldinho and become favourites?

Did Chelsea become favourites after selling Hazard?

popizaino:
Mourinho was a big failure at Madrid.

One league title with those superstars at their prime.

No ucl

Got knocked out by the borussia dortmund of this world.

Give pep guardiola that real Madrid team for any number of years and no team will lift any trophy real Madrid compete in. #factsonly

Eruditor:
I even wanted to give the guy links but I realized bobo no sabi

I don rest my case unto the matter.

I reply because na banter. I don't take any of these people seriously.

popizaino:
It started from his last season at Barca, and all I can say is that pep guardiola always feels too confident going into any fixtures with the return leg in his home. He feels he can always score the much needed goals to advance to the next stage and keep his opponent at bay provided the scoreline doesn't exceed a single goal in the away fixtures.The disappointment of loosing is not entirely his as you would like to paint it.


Messi missing pk vs Chelsea
Mullar missing pk vs Atletico Madrid
Aguero missing pk vs Tottenham
Aguero and Sterling missing chances a crippled old woman would score against Monaco.

KingAzubuike:
So Belgium won 9-0 yesterday and hazard couldn't register his name on the score sheet despite playing for 90' min. That guy no dey try at all

Eruditor:
Why are you asking for only Ribery? My friend stop with the diversionary tactics.

RM and Barcelona arguably had better squads. Especially RM.

Eruditor:
How can 2-0 loss be dead rubber when if AFC score another goal, Bayern are out?

What rubbish lie am I reading like this about first 11?

Bayern were the better team no doubt but losing to Arsenal that way shows they were not that "best team in Europe" like the other guy was claiming. That is fa fa fa foul.

They were not fantastic in the group stages. Even Dortmund, in a far more difficult group, did better.

They were solid, and deserved to win the UCL especially as the season progressed. But you see that narrative about them being the best team in Europe? That is a lie.

Eruditor:
It is the same way CFC lost 4-0 to Ole's united

Same way Tottenham lost 2-7 to Kovac.

The scoreline did not tell the real story.

spillo1:
Why are you blinded by bias. Bayern were undoubtedly the best team in Europe. They demolished and raped Barca. I was even more impressed on how they nullified Juventus home and away.


I called them “German Machines“. That season was played with absolute desire amd hunger. They wanted to win it all and had all neccesary tools to do so. What you are saying about that team is fallacy.


They were excellent and efficient in every aspect of their game. Could play any kind of game whether it was possession-based, counter-attacking, low block, high press, narrow or wide.

They turned the allianz arena into a slaughter house both locally and continentally that season.
If ever there was one example of when anger drove a team, that bayern would be it.

Pep ruined that generation.

Eruditor:
They had lost to Chelsea.

They had beat RM on PKs

They eked a win out of Dortmund in that treble.

So how were they the best team in Europe or were Chelsea also the best team in Europe in 2012?

sleekdot:
The citadel should borrow him some money to cover their shame

Eruditor:
Greatihex is a coward.

I know him.

Eruditor:
Prove me wrong

Or forever remain...stupid.

sleekdot:
Tell him to stake money on it. That is the way to deal with citadel students, Make them poorer than they are

even if its just by 10k

Eruditor:
Bring out the lie or prove you are a pretender.

Eruditor:
Pep 3 la liga titles back to back to back..failed.

Pep 3 Bundesliga titles back to back to back...failed.

Pep about to win EPL titles back to back to back...failed.

Mou...SUCCESS.

Klopp...SUCCESS.

Conte..SUCCESS.

airmark:


Maybe you and a40 aren't part of the bulk.

Mehn! A40 no get joy for where pep dey o. See finishing!

Choi!
Em say em go dey China in few years time






Fraudiola.

Eruditor:
I don't care about your opinion as much as I do in exposing your lies.

In Pep's first 3 years he won 3 la ligas , 2 UCLs, 2 Copa del reys, 2 world club cups, 3 spanish super cups, 2 European Super cups.

Geddifok.

popizaino:
If we put pep guardiola on this present Chelsea team I will bet on us to win the ucl again.

raumdeuter:
Before Pep Barcelona were trophyless back to back Pep joined and first season he won 6 trophies
Show us any other coach in history that has turned a trophyless team to sextuple winners within 18months
The same Barcelona that wasnt good enough to make top 2, was now the greatest team of all time
If you ask people the best team of the past 20yrs in Europe, most will tell you Peps Barcelona. That is the effect of Pep
Club owners now want their teams to play like Pep. Coaches want to play like Pep. How many teams have you seen saying they want to play cowardly like Mourinho?
Peps ex clubs all still want him back, How many of Mourinhos former clubs want him back?

The place that Mourinho is good enough for is coaching with the mouth at Bein and SKy studios where he joined other legendary mouth coaches like Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Thierry Henry to coach with mouth

homesteady:
Fear that he will do it? Why shouldn't he do it? If Neymar that you people are saying he is better than did it at 21 years, so why shouldn't Hazard at 28 even do better.

But I know he wouldn't do it, is it not Hazard? Make we sit down dey watch.

homesteady:
You don't have to bookmark it because at the end of day it wouldn't matter.
It's even surprising that you are actually taking the bait, no shame Someone is daring a 28 year old Hazard to do what a 21 year old European football debutant did and you are opening your mouth and shouting "bookmark it, bookmark it". Tueh!!

Can all these hazard boys go any lower?

Eruditor:
Lol.

AFC beat Jupp 2-0 in Munich. That is how your illogic works.

Effective football is not necessarily breathtaking.

That Jupp came back to coach 4 years after shows his first retirement was what? Exactly what I said; forced out of him because nobody knew he would be that successful when Bayern went to meet Pep at the end of 2011/12 season.

Eruditor:
Because even if he is wrong he won't care. He does not care about being wrong or right he is just hedging on the chance to make money.

For you, it is different. Your ego and money will go down the drain. So I would bet with you not him.

airmark:
Emenalo: “I defended the academy when there was pressure and doubt and pessimism. There was a time when there was a clamour to do more and a manager came in to make a presentation to say the academy was not necessary."

Emenalo: "The argument was it takes too long, we don’t have time, we should use it to make some money here and there, and that the owner should stop pumping money into it because it seemed like a waste. But that wasn’t my idea and I had to fight against it."

Emenalo: "This is where I am very, very proud of the owner Roman Abramovich because of the trust he had in me and the willingness to listen to me and give the academy time. He would not abandon it. He believed in it and in me, and I can’t thank him enough for that.”

Emenalo: “When you implement a policy, you expect it to work. But sometimes the timing or how it is going to work is not so sure. What’s happened with these boys, you can only feel pride. Not just for the boys, but I'm thankful for the effort of a lot of people"

Emenalo: "...coaches and staff, people at the academy, the first-team scouting and loan departments, secretaries, all these people who have had a lot of input into all of these boys succeeding. Of course, you always need some luck"

Emenalo: "and that luck has come with the transfer ban and with the appointment of someone like Frank and his assistants, Jody Morris and Joe Edwards. That’s what you need. It doesn’t mean it will be smooth sailing from here, it just shows that it is possible.”

Emenalo: "The policy was always to have the players grow together and to grow the culture. You saw it at Barcelona with Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets. You get a real culture of boys who understand and care about the club. Look at the celebration at Southampton."

Emenalo: "The first two who arrived to Tammy were Mount and Hudson-Odoi. Then when Mount scored, it was Tammy and Hudson-Odoi. Tomori couldn’t get up the pitch fast enough! You build a really, really wonderful football culture"

Emenalo: "A Chelsea culture and this is where identities come from and these guys will play and care for this club for years and years and years to come. It’s amazing what is unfolding."

Emenalo: “One key area we changed was the training methods. You would see these young lads join the first team and they were knackered after 40 mins. You're asking young lads to play with Lampard and Essien, who played 65 games a season and had the endurance capacity of lions"

Emenalo: "and they were not ready for it. So we implemented the fact that every player in the academy played 45 games, whatever sort of games they were. So, for example, Jay Dasilva played for the Under-18s, the U19s and the U23s to play at least 45 games."

Emenalo: "I thought that would equate to 25 games in the Championship or League One and that’s progress. They learned how to deal with fatigue and they could look the part when they trained with the first team. Then there was the loan programme."

Emenalo: "We realised one reason coaches were coming in and taking players from another team was they could see them in a different context, so why not put our best academy players in this context?"

Emenalo: “You see Andreas Christensen playing for Borussia Monchengladbach, playing in the Champions League against Manchester City and when the coach comes he says ‘ok if this guy can play at that level then he can play for me’. That immediately breeds confidence."

Emenalob “Of course, it didn’t always work and we had to change and adapt but it was beneficial to the boys. Look at Mount, he played a season at Vitesse and a season at Derby, so he’s ready. Tammy, the same at Bristol City, Swansea and Aston Villa."

Emenalo: "Tomori at Brighton, Hull and Derby. CHO is different, but you always get one exceptional talent and the games and training helped him. The idea is at some point, you only have to top up 30 or 40% with those big signings. The other 60 or 70% are players from the academy"

Emenalo: "That leaves you to buy exceptional talents from the transfer market. I think Chelsea are close to that now. You want a scenario where you have £600million of talent from the academy and you only need to spend another £200m to get it over the top.”

Emenalo: “The owner wanted to know what was going on. He watched the young players on television and made notes, and he sent me questions. He was in town when the final was on in 2015 and he wanted to see what the academy looked like. It was fun for him to do that..."

Emenalo: "and to pick out a few players to watch. He’s an unbelievable owner because he struck a good balance with being able to support the first team and support the academy at the same time. He’s won a lot of trophies and his patience with the academy is paying off.”
#CTSR
Emenalo: “I think this will be like a validation for the owner and a certain sense that he is again being the trendsetter in doing something that others are trying to do and struggling to do. So I think he will enjoy that. Ultimately, he loves to see the club lift trophies..."

Emenalo: "but for this season, I like to think as long as the team are above 10th, then he will enjoy the fact that all the boys are coming through and playing great football. It is a success, it is like lifting a trophy.”


Ok.

popizaino:
The same Benitez ran the same team Zidane won ucl with to the ground.

I like you use to rate coaches