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Handsomecole:
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point of correction, Jesus never started any church name Catholic , it was founded by queen of heaven, the mother of the great harlot
Queen of heaven is a demon, your ignorance is killing you

All over Abuja, about 85 people go out for morning cry every day, Sister Eunice and 11 other people dominated the city of Kubwa, while 5 dominated Kuje, 18 dominated Gwagwalada, 3 dominated kwali and the rest dominated Abaji, Yangoji, Tungamaji , Gwarinpa and the rest, about 8 people went out preaching the gospel very early one Saturday in Kubwa because people are less busy on Saturdays. Many of them came out very early and were preaching about Christ, as they continued preaching, they came across a woman lying down dead in a pool of blood, as they were trying to get closer to the woman lying down, they found out that she has a megaphone and bible, suddenly these preachers threw away their megaphones and bibles and ran back home, few minutes later, some set of people were coming back from night vigil, singing “if it’s raining I will follow Jesus, if fire is burning, I will follow Jesus”, suddenly they came across the woman lying on the ground in a pool of her own blood with her mega phone, then they realized she has being murdered by the Islamic fanatics, suddenly they ran into the bush, some of them hid their bible in their pants, some threw theirs away, while some of their women quickly remove their scarf and used it as hijab, disguising like Muslims, whenever any of them come across anyone, they will quickly greet them like a Muslim, asalamalekun, so that no one will suspect they are the Christians coming from vigil, while some of them who has children ask them to be singing “la ilaha illallah muhammadur rasulullah”, so that no one will identify them as a Christian till they get home. Within a second they all denied their identity just because a single Christian was murdered, they were singing “I will follow Jesus if fire is burning”, but the fire hasn’t started burning yet before they disguised, suddenly when the news of sister Eunice’s murder was announced in the radio, shown on Tv and newspapers, the 85people who go out for morning cry all over the city of Abuja reduced to 2 quickly, they preach about heaven, they talk about heaven and profess about Christ, but when the opportunity to go there finally arrived they are not willing to go anymore, (FICTION) (Story composed by Ay-Ringing)

John16:2 …… “yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service”
How many of you have allowed the devil to instigate fear into his/her mind in order to stop you from public evangelism?
Acts 8:1-5.”....at that time there was a great persecution against the church ….. and they were all scattered abroad.....devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him...they that were scattered abroad went everywhere preaching the word.....”
My fellow Christians out there, we need not to be afraid but to be prepared at all time, prepare for the worst because more terrible than this will still occur because Christ has said it already, let not this be strange to you, that is what their god is requesting from them and they are ready to obey till death, so don’t let these weaken you from doing what your own God is requesting from you, don’t let these trouble you from going out for morning Crying, Jesus said (John15:20) If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you, we need to increase our evangelism else their blood will be required from you. And moreover, some of these people are even closer to heaven than some christains who have being serving God for the past 30 years, if those who slaughtered Sister Eunice should repent today, and accept Jesus and died the next day, heaven will accommodate them and will reject a man of God who fell into sin in the dying minute. So don’t let these attacks stop you from going out for evangelism, even in the midst of persecution we must never retreat, the moment you say Jesus I give my life to you, it means Jesus I am signing my death warrant, I’m dead to this world and everything in it.
Gal2:20 “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me”
If a solder of these earth will not resign even after their best friend is being killed in the battle field, why then must the soldiers of Christ retreat? Elijah burnt 102 soldiers, and yet the remaining soldiers never run away, but still obey the king’s instructions
Fellow Christians we must not withdraw from giving them the warning, satan only want to use these to instigate fear into your heart, but if we are faithful unto death, we will earn a crown of life. there is nothing good here on earth that we are enjoying, John15:19 “If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world,….….the world hateth you”
I feel so sad when I heard about the news, but I’m not sad anyway, she has gone to be with Christ in heaven. if sin will not be found in her, her glorious crown will be waiting for her by now. Fellow Christians, arm yourself, see yourself as someone who has died already, don’t draw back from public preaching, else you will be a snare to the devil. But don’t involve yourself in evangelism if you are not saved, else you will die here and still die in eternity, because remember “…..Paul we know, Jesus we know, so who are you?”
terrible things like this will still occur, because we are already in the end time, please I beg you in the name of the Lord, don’t let this instigate fears into your heart, if the Lord hasn’t predestined you to die in the hand of any man, no one will kill you for preaching the gospel, Stephen was stoned to death, because it was predestined that he was going to be martyred by stoning, but remember Apostle Paul too was stoned but he never died, because he was predestined to be beheaded, Herod killed James with a sword and the same Herod took peter with the hope of killing him after Easter, but Peter escaped this terrible plans because he wasn’t destined to die in the hand of Herod, if you haven’t finished your assignment for God in this earth, no one can kill you before your time, normally many Christian ought to have died long time ago if they have dipped themselves much in evangelism, but the numbers of soul they are to win for Christ isn’t complete yet (that’s what I feel), that’s why they still remain alive, this woman have accomplished her task for the Lord, that’s why they were able to killed her assuming her time hasn’t come, she would have escape this horror, about a year ago, I wrote a story titled (Chisco Vs Boko Haram) boko-haram tried to kill a woman because she refuse to deny her faith, but as they were trying to smash her to death a powerful force held them down and couldn’t drop down the machete, although it may look fiction but I was told it happened to a Deeper life member, but assuming she has finished her task for God, she would have died in their hands.

You remember in the time past, many Christians were fed unto lions but remember these same lions ignored Daniel ? remember many Christians were burnt to death because of their faith but Shadrach; Meshach and Abed-nego were dancing in this same fire, does it mean the Lord has abandoned the one who got burnt? John was not destined to die in the hot boiling oil, but was destined to die a natural death, so don’t let satan instigate fear into your heart and cause you to draw back from going out from preaching the gospel, remember Jesus said, he who draws back, I will not be pleased with. If a single woman was brutally killed for preaching the gospel, that doesn’t mean all preachers have to go on holiday, that doesn’t mean you will have to limit your preaching on Face-book or other social media, one fellow has being killed, then let 1000 replace her. If these people will not give up because of what they believe, then why must we give up? Christians! it’s time we go a fishing, glorious crowns are waiting for us

Henycymama:
lolzzzzzz, no mind dem
coffin don turn to good tin to dy pose with... Orishirishi

what you are actually making jest of today, remember one day, someone will be posing with you own coffin too? and your grand children too will post your own coffin too on nairaland and people too will be ready to make jest of it too?

whatsoever you throw up will surely come down to you

nunogomez:
aboki own na 72 virgins, your own na mansion I pity you.

why don't you forget about the mansion first and think of how terrible it will be to live in terrible fire forever ? we know where we are going after we leave this world, but where are you going ?one one place Is available for anyone who died without Jesus, and that is everlasting fire. so if there is no mansion, will you want to be in fire forever? Repent now and accept Jesus before is too late.

when you don't know the purpose why you were born, you will just be moving round a circle without any achievement until you find out the plans of God for your Life

terrible religion

omonighoblessing:
If she repents its good for her.....what I don't understand is how a new convert is now a lead preacher.....are there no formal trainings or criteria before becoming a preacher or priest. ......we all know our pastors were brewed before their ministry. ..#just my thought

if your salvation is genuine, you need not to be brewed under the ministry of pastors you are not sure of their salvations or callings.
all she need to do is to spend much time with God and spend hours under the teachings of the holyspirit. but if she want to spend time going from one missionary school or theology school, she will become useless to be used by God. for these place are places where people lost their callings and ministries, where they will be trained on jargons

I think it's too early for that. she need to spend time with God to direct her to where she should and how she should go. crusade is not a job of a weak christian, she must be sure God is the one directing her, else she wont last
God spend much time on vessel he want to use for his ministry, ensure you tarry in Jerusalem to recieve the power from above to be able to carry out this assignment

analice107:
Enough has been said about this issue. If that's your ministry, then Goodluck.

thanks for your understanding, put what you have learnt into practice because the end is here

analice107:
I think I have said enough to you already. Go and save your family until no one is left.

and what. makes you think they are not? Jesus didnt wait. for his. own people to believe him before going to. preach to other villages. he came for his own and his own rejected him sha!

Thoniameek:
Right there you told me I don't know God. Simply because I don't do the things YOU expect of me as a christian.

No, who. am I, i dont expect. you to the way I believe you should live, but a christian must lived the way the bible. asked them to live, if you are. not living. as. the bible. asked you to live, then you are not. a christian yet

Thoniameek:
Wearing of trouser is not on the list of the problem of Christianity and is certainly not on the list of sins.

Christians have no attire no mode of dressing, because God didn't intend that Christ followers be from a particular tribe or race. God wants us all in our diversity which includes how we look.

Why then would the bible advice us to act like Romans when in Rome?

Lord Jesus, see the kind of poisons. these so called Martha has caused your. children you died. for to. believe?

very well, Trousers is. for Men and skirt is. for women.
and bible said in Deu22:5 Woman must not put on what partain unto man for it is an abormination in the sight of. God.
I don't know your age, but if you are less than 25, you may not. know. this, ladies trousers begin in early 90's, it was. never so.

I will prove it. to you in the bible

Dan3:21 NIV
So these men, wearing their robes,
trousers, turbans and other clothes, were
bound and thrown into the blazing furnace.

these is to prove to yyou. that even right from the bible, men uses trousers
and any women who. do that are hell bond

how will you feel, when you see. your husband putting on skirt, and your cloths, telling you he's going out. to. see his friend? wont you say he's mad? then any. woman who. put. on trousers too are mad

Thoniameek:
Those secret sin(s) only you and God know. You don't think that is more important to God than trousers? Or you don't think God wants you to repent of them?

This is only what you said that is 100% right. even if you dress like. bornagain, and you still have hidden sin, it. will hinder you from heaven. God need 100% inwardly and Outwardly

Thoniameek:
This is all too funny; You were living a horrible sinful life and God gave you the Ten Commandments, you couldn't live by them and He gave you Grace and yet still you fall short day by day but for grace you wouldn't have been alive today. Then now you suddenly think you can do it on your own? By adding to the Commandments! Digging out scriptures to prove sin - and you think God will hide sin for you to dig out for?

my dear you have missed it again,
Mat5:17, Jesus said he has not. come to. destroy the Law but. to fulfilled it, how then can you say. the Law has being destroyed? Only one Jesus. has. erradicated and that is the Sacrificial. Law. Jesus replaced

Fact
Jesus told the rich Man in Mathew 19:23, when he. ask how he can inherit. the kingdom of. God
Jesus said, keep the Law.

when the apostle teach, they taught with the Law.
Gal5:19 Paul taught with Law
James taught with Law
every apostle taught with Law.

the new testament came into existence 1000's years after the apostle, the new testament are the deeds and writtings of the apostle.

the apostle obey. the Law, not sacrificial one, to enter heaven
God is. God. and he. can. never change.

the same God of Old testament has never changed in New testament.

analice107:
And how was Christianity in the 60s? How old were you in the 60s to know how the Christians were dressed?

You. don't even know when I was born neither do you know my age, you don't even know if I'm above 70's or 80's, I know what I'm saying. I know you may not. know these if you are not up to 20yrs. you. may likely. not know. these. so I will give you an assignment, go to your parent and ask them to show you. their youth picture

analice107:
Listen, I am a christian, a serious minded one at that. I don't dress indecently,
and am against indecent dressing by Christians. And pls get this straight, no
Christian dresses in decently. In the fold, there are Wheat are Tares. That said

That is the mistake you are making. you don't tell anyone you are. a. christians, it is people who will tell you you are a christian.
note that there are 3 types of Christian

1. Xtains
2. christians
3. Christians

so you yourselfwill know where you fall into.
a genuine bornagain christian will never defend evil or unrighteousness, but for you to support these, then by your fruit, I shall judge you. for you not to see anything wrong in these, then you are an xtain

analice107:
This scriptures you are throwing in have nothing to do with the discourse at
hand.

yes of. course. you need to be a Christian before you can know every scriptures are important

analice107:
All the women you tagged as Martha, are not indecently dressed. The
Bible Talks about moderation and they are Moderately dressed.

Of course you can't. see it
because. Isiah 44:18 says
They do not comprehend or understand, for
their eyes are blind and cannot see ; ...

because you believe in the doctrine of. God only watches the heart , even when female put on cloths that caused men to. lust after them, you can never see anything wrong in it, miniskirts. and armless cloths for. ladies, painted faces and trousers, you can't see anything wrong in it, because the spirit living in you does not believe the bible, if it does, you will know those who. dress like these are on their way to hell Zeph1:8

analice107:
"Christ did not appoint you a spiritual detective
over his House". Do your own. And this one you are doing, you are committing
sin. You are working against the body of Christ. Nobody send you.
Self righteousness is a sin.

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and
light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet ...
Isiah5:20

If I comming out. to. speak boldly against the lies that these so call Martha are defending, and you call this a sin,

I WILL NOT. REPENT FROM PREACHING AGAINST EVIL TO SAVE THE WEAK ONE

When Jesus was rebuking the pharisee and preaching against. their false doctrines, you should have said why. is. he judging,
when Jesus said you re the children of your father the devil, you should have say why is he. judging
Jesus rebuke their wickedness,
but when his deciple ask him to cast fire from heaven on them, he refuse, because that is judging.
Jesus said they. are wolves, and the work of their father they will do, and this same Jesus. said, I have not come to. judge you., you should no. all those. sayings are. not. judging but rebuking, and exactly what I have done.

analice107:
Christ who died for them, knows their frailties and He is still sitting by the right
hand of his father making intercession for this women you have taken a position
to send to hellfire on your own.

ahh! so you don't know the time of grace will one day come to an end? these people u r defending knows the truth, they know it's wrong, but they need members, and that is the only. ways. they can get crowd. and faans like you.
when death comes, that Jesus you think is begging. on your behalf will tturn against. you and thrown you to hell....... this is the time to repent, tomorrow may be too late

analice107:
Bros, the harvest is plenteous and the labourers a few. Get busy and stop
minding other people's businesses. Their reward is not your reward.

what is the essence of drawing out the sheeps from the rivers and giving it into the hands of Wolves to watch it for you?
Jesus too cares about those christian. walking on way of destruction, and i. am also interested in saving them too

Broad is. the way that leads to hell,these crowd waliking on that broad way., they go to church too, yet they are on their. way to hell. Jesus need their. soul too

Thoniameek:
So much enthusiasm and zeal! Hmm, I admire.

Let me tell you something I've noticed and think others have noticed as well - you're too judgemental, you sound like you know the mind of God and you know the absolute punishment for sin (when I think you clearly don't understand the Gospel from how you sound).

From what you've written alright, that's God. He chastiseth those he loves. Everything he does and will ever do to us is out of love.

I didn't earn my salvation and I won't try to. I only try to love God back and my neighbors as well.

I pray you understand that someday......

I'm not. judgmental as you think, that is just your own personal perception, and it is because you fail to understand what judgement means.
it is in the present church that the church says there is nothing wrong with trousers for ladies,but for someone to come out. and read out the bible which condemed these abormination is not condeming, but rebuking

I don't know the. bible you read, but the bible I read said in 1Tim5:20 to rebuke evil publicly. i don't side evil, if you does, the wrath of God will come on you. a child of God must shun evil for the glory of God.

your so called Martha came out publicly to say nothing. wrong in mastubation, or drunkeness, your so called. martha came out to divorce his. wife and remarry, and when anyone come out. and say anything against these evil they are commiting under the name. of Christianity, you will say, don't judge.

I am not judging you, but if God will say Woe unto the Pharisee and Scribes because of. the evil. they are commiting in name. of Priest of. the Jew,
then I too will do the same,I must speak out, not for the sake. of these so called. matter, but for the sake of the weak. once

Joagbaje:
Thanks for the compliment



That's not the point . The point is to counter the idea that gold is object of idolatry hope we are clear on that .



Luke 15:22
But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand and shoes on his feet:

James 2:2
For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;


You can see for yourself It's not true . It's a general thing in every generation for people to use gold . Especially those who can afford it . But our discussion is on body ardonment not just gold . And I've given you scriptures that God use to illustrate the common use of body ardonment



It's for a reason that day as sign of humility .just as he told Moses to pull his shoes off.



Neither did hel Tell Moses to wear his shoes back .because It's simple common sense .



Kindly quote the scripture where God forbade it.

you don't read bible like. story book, but you need holyspirit for you to understand it.
you can't understand more than what. you think you know if only depend on arguing

God is never a. God that says yes and. later come back and say. I amsory, I made a mistake it is No.

Remember Jesus. was preaching to the world and he will use what the world are familiar with to preach to them,
because Jesus made a. sample of. the ring given to the prodigal son never means he has changed his. mind concerning it, remember he also use. a parable of a Steward that lavish the goods of his master, and when he realised his master. will take his stewardship. from. him, he begin to bribe his debtors so that they too can help. him if his master. kick. him out. (Luke16:1-10)

So is Jesus now supporting. Bribery? or is he now supporting being unfaithfulness?

you need to compare scripture with scriptures. to be able to understand the mind of God.

Back to your claim on Ring,

the ring which his father gave to him symbolised Royalty, and not body adornment

Gen41:42 Pharaoh gave Joseph a ring as signs of royalty

Esther3:10 The. king gave Haman his ring as a symbol of royalty

Ether. 8:2 The king gave Mordecai his. ring

The king gave Daniel his chain and Robe (Dan5:25)

all these are symbols of royalty and not adoenment. God and Jesus are against body adornment, even 1Peter 3:3 condemed it.

you can't read bible like story book and think you understtand it, you need holyspirit. for. interpretation

James 2:2
who are the people. James are refering to here? the royal people, the pride and the king that depends on riches, you must. never hornor. them because of their riches, so where has God asked us to deck ourself. with these. cursed items?

Joagbaje:
Humble yourself brother . You have no single scripture to back up the lie you're feeding Gods people . I gave you enough scriptures to show you the falacy of these human doctrines . The scripture is our authority . If you can't back up your teaching from it . That makes it clear its Man's doctrine

you don't read bible like. story book, but you need holyspirit for you to understand it.
you can't understand more than what. you think you know if only depend on arguing

God is never a. God that says yes and. later come back and say. I amsory, I made a mistake it is No.

Remember Jesus. was preaching to the world and he will use what the world are familiar with to preach to them,
because Jesus made a. sample of. the ring given to the prodigal son never means he has changed his. mind concerning it, remember he also use. a parable of a Steward that lavish the goods of his master, and when he realised his master. will take his stewardship. from. him, he begin to bribe his debtors so that they too can help. him if his master. kick. him out. (Luke16:1-10)

So is Jesus now supporting. Bribery? or is he now supporting being unfaithfulness?

you need to compare scripture with scriptures. to be able to understand the mind of God.

Back to your claim on Ring,

the ring which his father gave to him symbolised Royalty, and not body adornment

Gen41:42 Pharaoh gave Joseph a ring as signs of royalty

Esther3:10 The. king gave Haman his ring as a symbol of royalty

Ether. 8:2 The king gave Mordecai his. ring

The king gave Daniel his chain and Robe (Dan5:25)

all these are symbols of royalty and not adoenment. God and Jesus are against body adornment, even 1Peter 3:3 condemed it.

you can't read bible like story book and think you understtand it, you need holyspirit. for. interpretation

James 2:2
who are the people. James are refering to here? the royal people, the pride and the king that depends on riches, you must. never hornor. them because of their riches, so where has God asked us to deck ourself. with these. cursed items?

analice107:
Maybe you shd define what it means to be judgemental, and if the stance that even you have taken is given to you by Christ.
Have you for once considered that, if Christ took this your stance none of us will be saved today?
Again, pls go through the pictures the OP tagged as Martha and show how their dressing has caused offence.
Preach the gospel, win souls.
Jesus said, He called us to go into the world and bring forth fruits and that our fruits should remain.
If you think that you know better, then change lives around you.
Don't build you ministry on pulling others down.
When you stand before your master, he won't ask you how many men and women of God you succeeded in casting down, you will be asked how many souls you won.
We will all stand to answer for our individual selves.
Your own family is deep in sin, maybe even worshipping Idols. Maybe your sisters are even prostitutes, but because they are not in the lime light, you leave them and cast aspersions on other people.
Allow Christ who died for them condemn them, not you. Face your front. You were not called into ministry to monitor how others are running.
Leave Satan's ministry to Satan.
Am a lady btw.

how. do. you win. souls for God? is it just by preaching alone?
You will preach the word and at same time you put. things rright, things that are not right in the body of Christ
Christ were introduced to many people but in a wrong. manner. they introduce christ to them so that the can be working for. satan.

early 60's to early 90's, we know christianities by their. dressing, you dressing will tells me you are. a. prostitute, a prostitute never tells anyone she's a prostitute, but. they are known by their. dressing. even right from the begining of the world

When Judah. was on. journey,Tamar. his sons wife dress like a prostitute to gain his father inlaw, and the same is happening to day

Jer7:11 The house called. by my name has turned into. a place where. abomination is performed, I will forsake it. just. as i forsake Shiloh.

the house of God today are now a. house where immoralities is. performed daily, these so called Martha were just disguising as women of. God, God can never called anyone to. be a queen of. Abomination teaching. his church to dress in immoral way

satan called these people to disguised as. children of God, so that. the weak will see them and copy their styles,
when they dress like them and they enter. into the church, then the spirit. of immorality will filled the church

how

Mathe5:28 said. if a man looks after a woman lustfully. already commit adultery, but these so called martha teach the ladies in the church to dress. immoral so that even right in the church men can masturbate. right in the church men can urinate in their pant.
how can a Man lust after. a woman without him first seeing what attract. him on a woman?
These so. called. Martha has turned the house of God into a. place. of. immoralities and abormination

These Martha are not. women of God, but they are JEZEBELS.
Jesus said. no one can serve 2 master, you can either. be his or the devil, and he that is not. with Christ will. be. against him
these. people are against Christ

Rev2:20 they. teach and they seduce children of God to commit fornication.


DON'T FOLLOW MARTHA, HER. END IS DESTRUCTION

Among the way I can win souls for Christ is to warn you about the danger ahead of you if you follow or want to. be a friend of the world. Martha are friends of the world, and their end is destruction

Joagbaje:
Thanks for the compliment



That's not the point . The point is to counter the idea that gold is object of idolatry hope we are clear on that .



Luke 15:22
But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand and shoes on his feet:

James 2:2
For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;


You can see for yourself It's not true . It's a general thing in every generation for people to use gold . Especially those who can afford it . But our discussion is on body ardonment not just gold . And I've given you scriptures that God use to illustrate the common use of body ardonment



It's for a reason that day as sign of humility .just as he told Moses to pull his shoes off.



Neither did hel Tell Moses to wear his shoes back .because It's simple common sense .



Kindly quote the scripture where God forbade it.

even if. I show you that bible said, thou shall. not steal, you will still argue it. so you are not willing to learn,but just want to argue.if i can show you close to 5 scriptures yet you still argue it, then you can't point finger on me that i never. warned you.
even if. you reject my warning now and follow the part of Marha, these. warning one day will follow you to the grave one day, and by then it will be too late

God is holy and his kingdom. is holy
nothing of the devil can qualified for. his kingdom

Thoniameek:
I got home from school with a garment my father didn't get for me, he got so mad he threatened me with death.
I was confused, in my confusion I asked; but father didn't do everything you expected of me to the best of my capabilities?
My grades are excellent, even people are amazed about them that they ask me what my secret is, and tell them I have an amazing father that teaches me. And because of that everyone has come to know about you father.

But no! My father wouldn't have any of that. He's angry, very angry that I'm putting on a dress a didn't get for me, and for that I must die!



Of course I'm not death, because that story isn't real. But when we humans go about writing things like this, we make God out to seem like that father up there....... Even my earthly father that's full of sin wouldn't do that to me - wouldn't be that heartless.


I have been Martha for a while, I've been Mary as well. I've even had to struggle between the two personalities (I think that's what happens when you ascend a different level of faith in the Lord)

But like the bible said: I eat meat and you eat grass doesn't mean we should judge each other on who's eating the right food, it only goes to show our level of FAITH. I able to eat food sacrificed to idols and you don't, it's your faith. But because I care for you I would try and do things moderately so as not to sway you.

God is Love..... all the bible has been trying to tell us is that he loves us. A loving father won't judge he's children like that. Christianity is relationship with God as heirs, sons, friends and even wife, it's very intimate - not as slaves or servants anymore.........

God. is Love, that was the reason why the bible said for God so love the world that he gave his only son
the same God who said He love the world said,Love not the world for he that loves the world is an enemy of God.

among the world God said. he loves was Sodom and Gomarah which he destroyed. within a day, Among the world he loves. was. the one he destroyed with water, just within a day he destroy 14,700 in a day Num16:49
God told Pharoah that Isreal was his first born, let my people go that. they may serve me.
because of the Love. he had. for Isreal, he smoth them with plagues of. different kind

But For God so Love Isreal thatt he destroyed the land of. Egypt, but. just only 2 of. them got to. the promised land, not even Moses.

you don't know God, if you know him you won't. take him for granted
once. God said he doesn't. want. this, he mean what he said, he. is God and he changeth not. he never. go back in his word,

dont fool yourself like Baalam that think he can change the mind of God, if he will kill a man for picking wood on sabath day, if he. kill. Uzzah for trying to resque the ark of convenant that was fallen, if he kill the two sons of Aron, if he killed Ananiah and Saphira for. telling lies,

THEN HE CAN KILL YOU IF. YOU DEFILES YOUR BODY. WHICH IS CALL TO BE HIS TEMPLE. WITH THE FASHION OF THE WORLD..... YOUR DRESSING. CAN EITHER PLEASE GOD OR PLEASE. THE. DEVIL. YOU CAN'T DRESS TO. PLEASE THE. TWO. AT SAME TIME, DON'T BE DECIEVED

God love us, but he. hate sin, or evil
he will never. encourage any of his. children to dress in a way. that will seduced his opposite sex in. name of fashion, it would be better for a mill stone round in his neck and throwns in the sea, says. Jesus

do not Love the world,but God created the same world. he ask us not to love

GOD LOVE THE WORLD, BUT HE HATE THE SYSTEM OF THE WORLD
the fashions of the world
if. your dressing can. not be distinguished. from the dressing of. the world, thhen you are still God's enemy. and his. enemy. will perish for all eternity

stop being God's enemy, if there is something too hard for you to drop for. Jesus, then He is. not. your Lord yet

Joagbaje:
He never cursed gold . Jesus was given gold and silver as infant . It wasn't seen as object of Devils also Don't forget we will wear a crown of gold in heaven . Will it be a crown of curse? Gold belong to God . The fact that someone misuse it doesn't corrupt it. Even meats offered to idols can still be eaten by a man of understanding .

this is the only one that deserved to be answered in all your questions.

Jesus was never given gold to put on his body. and moreover, Mary or Joseph collected it and not Jesus. Gold was never meant for body adornment, because humanity lack wisdom, that was why Satan deceived them into it. but when Solomon was given the wisdom human needs, he used it for what it was originally meant for.

no isrealite uses jewelry of gold or silver for body adornment. God said, in Exodus 33 that they should remove it. and right from that chapter to revelation, God never asked them to put it on again. it became forbidden for Is real right from that day to adorn their body with ornament

Judges8:24
Gideon said unto them, I would desire a request
of you, that ye would give me every man the
earrings of his prey. (For they had golden
earrings, because they were Ishmaelites.)

Gedion an Israelite requesting for these ornament, the bible said Ishmaelite gave it to him because it was the custom of Ishmaelite, and not the custom of Isreal.

Ezk7:19-22 prove that the Curse of God is upon it. and it shall be polluted. and defiles. and no defile things will enter heaven. God will never come back to bless what he has cursed.

also, heaven is made of Gold but the gold of this earth's were the one cursed not heave

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(Gen35:2,4) Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments 4 And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem.

God commanded the people of Israel to collect the jewelries of the people of Egyptians?

What cause the curses was because they use it in creating a disgusting idol, and they gave God’s glory to an Idol. (Exo32:4 These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.) Remember God is a Jealous God, He will never share his glory with a man, not to talk of an object. This brought Anger upon the Isreal, and God Wanted to destroy them. But Moses Pleaded on their behalf, and He promise not to destroy them. But he will not follow them again. But Israel was very sad when they heard the Lord will not walk with them again, and God told Moses, what kind of stubborn people are these? If I should come near you, I WILL DESTROY YOU. But I can still have mercy on you, IF YOU REMOVE YOUR ORNAMENTS. (Exo33:1-6)

Haggai2:8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.
Yes, Silver and Gold belongs to the Lord, for He created the whole Things, trough His Word (Jesus) But The Owner of the Gold and Silver said in Ezk7:19-25 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumbling block of their iniquity. (Gold and Silver cause the Fall of Israel ) 20 As for the beauty of his ornament, he set it in majesty (They Cherish Their Ornament so much) but they made the images of their abominations and of their detestable things therein ((They Worship it and give the glory of God to it): therefore have I set it far from them. (That’s why the Lord take it away from whosoever that want to be his) Ezk7:21 And I will give it into the hands of the strangers for a prey (He take it away from his children and gave it to the strangers, Evil people), and to the wicked of the earth (Satan) for a spoil; and they shall pollute it. (The strangers here are the demons and fallen Angels Devil, so God gave it to them and they will defile it. Ezk7:22 My face will I turn also from them, and they shall pollute my secret place: for the robbers shall enter into it, and defile it. (Your Body is the temple of God, and using it, will invite unclean spirit to take over your body, and you can never enter heaven with a defile Body. Remember Rev21:21? Anything Defiles shall not enter the kingdom of God Do you know the result of Using these things? Ezk 7:24-25 Wherefore I will bring the worst of the heathen, and they shall possess their houses: Iwill also make the pomp of the strong to cease; and their holy places shall be defiled. 25 Destruction cometh; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be none. (HELL FIRE)

Friend, there is different between cursed items and Idolizing items. you do not need to idolized items that is cursed already, moreover You can’t Help God to do his works, satan is only deceiving people, There are some ways that looks right in eyes of people but the end is destruction. Do not follow men Ideas, obey God, if you want to live. It looks good in eyes of Uzzah to save the Ark of the Lord not to fall, But God kill him instead. Do not help God. Zeph1:8 I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel. 1Ptr3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

Joagbaje:
I have , I think it's time you check yours , let's lay aside Man's doctrine and deal with pure word of God. Remember it's a sin to add to scripture what it didn't say . Don't call unholy what God made holy.

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What I saw above are just personal opinion and misapplication of scriptures . If Gold is evil then God would be wrong to bless Abraham with it.

Genesis 13:1
And Abram went up out of Egypt, he, and his wife, and all that he had, and Lot with him, into the south.

Besides scripture made it clear that gold and silver belong to God . And he blessed his beloved with them .

Job 22:24
Then shalt thou lay up gold as dust,
and the gold of Ophir as the stones of the brooks.

Haggai 2:8
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts.

let me start from the beginning for you.
in the beginning, God made everything perfect including the gold and other . but it was never for body adornmen. but it became scarce and hard to see after men fell into sin.
Abraham was known as rich bybthe numbers of gold and cattle's he has. when his slave went to get wife for Isaac , he gave Rebecca a ring Gen24:22 . but it was never a problem during these period. but to confirmed even when it was never a problem then, Isreal still regard it as strange idols in Gen35:5
But God never hold it against them by then, because if he does, he won’t
instruct them to collect the jewelries and the
gold of the Egyptians before they left Egypt then.
God allow them to take and collect their wealth
because he knew they love it, and since they
love it, they can go ahead and take it from them,
because God love what they love. But it became
a problem for the Israelite after they turned it
into an Idol in Exo32, and God asked them to
remove it on their body never will he want to see
it on their body again or else, he will destroy
them. In Exodus33:5 Ye area stiffnecked people:
I will come up into the midst of thee in a
moment, and consume thee: therefore now put
off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know
what to do unto thee. This is God calling Israel
stiffneck people (stubborn people) before you
can call a child stiffneck, that means you have
being warning him of a particular things and he
fail to repent from it.

in Ezikel7:19-22 God explain to Ezekiel why
he has forbid Israelite from putting on Jewelries,
and how he has made it unclean thing for them
to put on. And Rev21:27 said every uncleanness
will not inherit the kingdom of God,

whatsoever God cursed can never be blessed. 1peter3:3 also warned against it.

analice107:
I will say this for the last time, and get off your mention.
When you are done bringing charges against God's elect, and your own mother is not a MARY, HMMMM. I rest my case.

be very careful with people you attached the name of God to. God never call and will never call anyone to live a life or teach in a way that contradict his word

Joagbaje:
It's a simple principle revealed . Women have need of ardonment . God won't use sinful illustration. I hope you get my point

Read that scripture again and see the spirit of the communication ..

Jeremiah 2:32
Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.

God was dealing with simple common sense among the people .



Firstly the sin of Jezebel was not in ardoning herself . It's just a simple common sense for women. Her sin was her wickedness .And It's not true that she's the only one who decked herself in bible days . Both male and female ardoned themselves . Rather you will find from Genesis to revelation the Use of ardonment .

Genesis 24:22
22 And it came to pass, as the camels had done drinking, that the man took a golden earring of half a shekel weight, and two bracelets for her hands of ten shekels weight of gold;

And you will never find a place where God call ardonment a sin. If there is bring it on.

then I will advice you to re check your bible once again . at least with the above note on jewelry, God should be able to open your eyes to see something hidden from you

REASONS WHY Jewelry is wrong for Christian
All what God has made were perfectly made, and in bible God called gold and silver his own Hagg2:8, but has God ever called it body adornment? They will want to justify themselves with Ezk16:11 that God deck Israel with Ornament, was he referring to human or just sort of Personification? They will say Abraham slave gave Rebecca a ring, is Abraham slave God? They want to justify themselves with Gen24:22. Did God instructed him to do so, or just Man made idea? What happen in the future after Rebecca’s children went to seek the face of God in Bethel? Gen35:4 what did they do before going to Bethel, they have to remove all their jewelries because they called it strange gods and idol, and since they want to go to seek the face of God, they can’t go there with it because it’s an unclean thing. But God never hold it against them by then, because if he does, he won’t instruct them to collect the jewelries and the gold of the Egyptians before they left Egypt then. God allow them to take and collect their wealth because he knew they love it, and since they love it, they can go ahead and take it from them, because God love what they love. But it became a problem for the Israelite after they turned it into an Idol in Exo32, and God asked them to remove it on their body never will he want to see it on their body again or else, he will destroy them. In Exodus33:5 Ye area stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee. This is God calling Israel stiffneck people (stubborn people) before you can call a child stiffneck, that means you have being warning him of a particular things and he fail to repent from it. Ok let’s see Judges8:24 Gideon said unto them, I would desire a request of you, that ye would give me every man the earrings of his prey. (For they had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites.) ……..and it became a curse on him and his family This was Gideon asking for jewelries after winning a battle, and the bible said, it was the custom of the Ishmaelite to put on Jewelries, not the custom of the Israelite, because God has forbid Israelite from putting on these things And also in Ezikel7:19-22 God explain to Ezekiel why he has forbid Israelite from putting on Jewelries, and how he has made it unclean thing for them to put on. And Rev21:27 said every uncleanness will not inherit the kingdom of God, only Solomon uses the gold for the right things. God made it for building and not for body adoring, stop justifying yourself with Heaven is made up of gold or something, it is the gold of the earth God called unclean, and moreover it’s not for body adornment but for building. If you are a man of God or woman of God, who put on these things, well I don’t know if there is another heaven, but the kingdom of God, no unclean will enter there. Not even your wedding ring, you get married with a wedding ring, remove it, it is by the word the Lord joined us, and not by a wedding ring, the issue of wedding ring is the idea of man that will lead to destruction

REASONS WHY Jewelry is wrong for Christian
All what God has made were perfectly made, and in bible God called gold and silver his own Hagg2:8, but has God ever called it body adornment? They will want to justify themselves with Ezk16:11 that God deck Israel with Ornament, was he referring to human or just sort of Personification? They will say Abraham slave gave Rebecca a ring, is Abraham slave God? They want to justify themselves with Gen24:22. Did God instructed him to do so, or just Man made idea? What happen in the future after Rebecca’s children went to seek the face of God in Bethel? Gen35:4 what did they do before going to Bethel, they have to remove all their jewelries because they called it strange gods and idol, and since they want to go to seek the face of God, they can’t go there with it because it’s an unclean thing. But God never hold it against them by then, because if he does, he won’t instruct them to collect the jewelries and the gold of the Egyptians before they left Egypt then. God allow them to take and collect their wealth because he knew they love it, and since they love it, they can go ahead and take it from them, because God love what they love. But it became a problem for the Israelite after they turned it into an Idol in Exo32, and God asked them to remove it on their body never will he want to see it on their body again or else, he will destroy them. In Exodus33:5 Ye area stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee. This is God calling Israel stiffneck people (stubborn people) before you can call a child stiffneck, that means you have being warning him of a particular things and he fail to repent from it. Ok let’s see Judges8:24 Gideon said unto them, I would desire a request of you, that ye would give me every man the earrings of his prey. (For they had golden earrings, because they were Ishmaelites.) ……..and it became a curse on him and his family This was Gideon asking for jewelries after winning a battle, and the bible said, it was the custom of the Ishmaelite to put on Jewelries, not the custom of the Israelite, because God has forbid Israelite from putting on these things And also in Ezikel7:19-22 God explain to Ezekiel why he has forbid Israelite from putting on Jewelries, and how he has made it unclean thing for them to put on. And Rev21:27 said every uncleanness will not inherit the kingdom of God, only Solomon uses the gold for the right things. God made it for building and not for body adoring, stop justifying yourself with Heaven is made up of gold or something, it is the gold of the earth God called unclean, and moreover it’s not for body adornment but for building. If you are a man of God or woman of God, who put on these things, well I don’t know if there is another heaven, but the kingdom of God, no unclean will enter there. Not even your wedding ring, you get married with a wedding ring, remove it, it is by the word the Lord joined us, and not by a wedding ring, the issue of wedding ring is the idea of man that will lead to destruction

dsquare33:
I don't' subscribe to Christian women who dress loosely or immodestly but for you to be stamping Martha on some women and Mary on some and acting like God is were you getting it wrong.So it means if I don't put jewelry and no makeup I am a Mary smh.Ogbeni, Mr man stop acting like God asides you telling me to give me my life to Christ I don't need to validate my conviction of salvation to you.

the purpose of these is to inform the weak Christian who really desire to serve the Lord, but they were weak to understanding of the truth. many of them follow the pattern of these so call Martha because they believe they are right with the lord. but unknown to them that they are soul destroyers

in these day, people study the life of these people but fail to study the Bible. as a result of these, many of them has end up in hell.

holahmihdeh:
Ur statements are contradicting. In ur first reply to me U said and I quote: "before. you decide. to dress in an artificial beuty, you must firt think it in your heart that God is imperfect, and you are. ashamed of your natural hair, so you want to help God by using artificial to adorn yourself. we human know how rotten your. heart is trough your dressings and. action.

Now u re saying this: your outer appearance may be right but inward may be roten, but your outer can never be rotten and your inward. be pure. Never.

God said gold and silver are mine, are u now saying we are not entitled to them as children of God just the same way salvation comes from God and we are entitled to it as His children, cuz John 1:12 says as many as received Him to them He gave the right to become the children of God.

I still wonder why we adorn and beautify buildings that cannot praise God yet we criticize the use of adornments by people who can praise God. Which is more important to God? The buildings or the people.

God said Gold and silver belongs to him and the same God said in Isiah 45:7 that I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil : I the LORD do all these
things.

does that mean the Lord will bend his word and allow evil into his kingdom? No.

back to what you claim to contradict each others. I said out if the abundant of hearth mouth speaketh. your way of life reveal what dwells in you. but I said there cab still be agents of darkness that will still want to disguised as a child of God trough dressing because Satan knows the importance of dressing in the body of Christ.

There is nothing like God only watches the heart
or dressing doesn’t matter. If dressing doesn’t
matter, God will not design the cloths of the
priest and the Levites, if dressing doesn’t
matters satan will not masquerade as an angels
of Light, even the heart many are even claiming of,
tell me If the heart pure? So the purity of their
heart asked them to put on miniskirts, the purity
of your heart ask you to putting on knickers to
church like a footballer, pastor flying their polo,
pastor sagging like criminals, pastor with pure
heart drawing tattoos, a devil marks on their
body, salvation begin from within and
reflect on your appearance. In 80’s you don’t tell
people you are Christian before they know whom
you are
I’ve even heard of a lady with a clean and pure
heart during her wedding day, as her husband
was trying to lift her up, her chest just fell out of
the armless wedding gown she was putting on,
because she has a pure heart


now back to the issue of gold and silver, God never created gold and silver for body adornment, but it is for buildings.

I will prove it to you now, why you can't enter heaven if you make use of these gold or silver to adorn yourself

Joagbaje:
Isaiah 61:10
10 I will greatly rejoice in the Lord,
my soul shall be joyful in my God;
for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation,
he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness,
as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments,
and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels

this is just. a figure of. speech, (Simile) i think.
but read it from Genesis down to Revelation, only Jezebel ever deck himself with external adornment

analice107:
My position is not to support averies or Materialism,
but for the the purpose of this argument, let me say this, and am so sorry that am going to use these two women to make this analogy.
If you think God is so interested in our looks and less interested in our hearts. Why do you think is the reasonHe allowed one of these women to survive Cancer while the other died of the same Cancer?

Deeper Life Mummy(I loved her very much), you termed her as a "Mary", and Living Faith Mummy (I love her very much), you termed as "Matha".
But these two, Mary had Cancer, with all the 'no body Cream, no white powder', no body spray, died of that Cancer. But Martha, with body Cream, white powder, body spray, survived that Cancer and is still alive today?

If you make all this noise but your mother is not a "Mary", shame on you.

don't judge because Paul is suffering from pains in leg, or because Timothy is suffering from stomach pains, but Demas. is healthy doesnt mean demas way is. right with God.

when children of God see the way to go to heaven, they rejoice and want to get ready for it, but the one that love these earth above heaven will spent their last. kobo. to remain in this sinful world. they travel to india, or isreal and spent billions. on themself just to remain in this world because this world is their homes.

but when a saint is sick, he begin to rejoice. because he knows. where he is going. Paul said to live is for Christ, but to die is a gain
that is the motto of genuine Christian

now back to. your living faith mummy, God purposely allow her to live so as to reammend her ways. because there is no repentance after death.

holahmihdeh:
I will start from where you stopped. Your last paragraph showed we are on the same page. "You can dress like born again, act like them but ur heart is far from God", the more reason God is more concerned about the state of the heart.. God will not acknowledge if you dress like born again with no artificial beauty and adornment while ur heart is not in line with him.
And u misinterprete Rom 1:26. Cuz if u ready beyond that verse 26, you will understand that Paul was not referring to dressing but sexual immorality among women and men. Where women engaged in Lesbianism and men in gayism. Rom 1: 27 : "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman (normal man to woman sexual intimacy), burned in their lust one to another, men with men working that which is unseemly....... KJV

The NLT version: Rom 1: 26-27: "That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other, men did shameful things with other men.......". So that verse was not meant for indecent dressing.

And about God concern if a part of the body cut off, was it not Jesus Himself that said if a part of your body will make u sin that you should cut it off...... It is better to lose a part of your body than for your body to burn in Hell fire.

I can see the seriousness in you, for you search the scripture to know the truth, compare. to those who will only argue blindly

but still
you fails to still understand that portion
God is equally concerned with our outer appearance as he is equally concerned about the inward appearance. your outer appearance may be right but inward may be roten, but your outer can never be rotten and your inward. be pure. Never.
can you see the differences?

The outer appearance may look holy n dressings but. they may be an agent of. darkness, because satan himself knows how bornagain should dress and he. knows. the importancesof dressing.

Back to the Roman1:26-27, because Paul emphasised more on Sexual immoralities doesnt mean the fact has changed. concerning the word
for the women change the natural use to. that which is agaisnt the nature,
these gose. beyond natural sexuality, but natural into unatural in every ways.

Coil hair changed into a stretched hair
black skin changed into a light skins
African hair changed into Brazillian or. india hair, these are changing. natural into unatural.

and Zeph1:8 said, the wrath of God will come on. anyone who cloth themselve with strange apparel, for they shall never inherit the. kingdom of Godbut will. face his judgement