₦airaland Forum

SmartPolician:
Escobar has made naira worthless now. You will think billions of naira is a lot d money until you convert it into USD.

Coming to Bayelsa, people don't understand that in most places in the state, it costs twice to build a project than it is in other parts of Nigeria because the state is swampy. They always end up doing a lot of sand-filling before a project starts. But then, I agree that their governors can do better.

Swampy as Lagos ? People still build in swamp in Lagos .

Other states also experienced devaluation but all state also experienced increased allocation.

While other states are still trying , Bayelsa has been retrogressive.

Now you spoke about the swampiness ,if other states are not swampy but receives lesser amount to do things , shouldn't the increased allocation in Bayelsa make up for the swampiness and at least develop like other states?

dederocs:
This is the results of rabidity...think and act like human being una no gree... animal behaviour begets animal results.

You're right ,it's the animal behaviour of Israel before Oct 7th that caused another animal behaviour of Oct 7th .

And if other countries also want to totally destroy Israel in an animalistic manner ,it's because of the Israel ore existing animal behaviour.

Bayelsa is an underdeveloped state despite huge amount of allocation.

These are people that call Iran a genocidal regime.

Despite the latest peace move , I think this is a warning shot from Putin over the Trump meeting the European and NATO leaders like a puppet .

Perhaps the meeting has engineered a new plan that is different fromTrump's Putin's agreement .

Story can be legendary , if research was well done , they might have suffered genocide and the story buried .

whatever the Isese people do for now is good to go .


They will only go wrong in my eyes if they begin to forcefully convert people .

DoctorStanley:
This your post is so full of misinformation I don't know where to start.
First, Nigeria does not have lax immigration policies. Go and check
Second, you are totally wrong about someone dumping products in your country. Just take a look at how made-in-China has affected us here. Are we better off since they closed down local industries? It costs US JOBS! It is quite different from preventing people who are strictly coming to give you money!

Nigeria does not have lax immigration but when they want to reciprocate social media check policy ,it's a "tough" policy and should not be made ? Where do you stand exactly ?

So does America has lax immigration policy before wanting to implement a "tough" social media check ?

Now compare Nigeria to South Africa for instance,which country has tougher immigration policies and which country do foreigners prefer to go to the most ?

You're the one that used the word "dump" ,now let's analyse the good and the bad ,when Buhari implemented a policy of buy Nigeria grow Nigeria,closed borders and banned some goods importation,what happened? There's super inflation because we don't have the local capacity to be self sufficient.

The same will happen when you slammed 100% or more tariffs on goods US or other countries can't produce sufficiently,it will lead to super inflation,I guess you missed your basic economics class .

Should a country throw the towel and accept their fate ? No ,that's why US is slamming tariff and trying to rejig the local production ,the same thing Buhari attempted ,the only problem is implementation,it should not be done once but gradual phase out .

Now,the bone of contention is that because US didn't throw in the towel and let China control their goods (by making things cheaper and economy running smoothly) the same way Nigeria should not throw the towel and let US control our immigration.

Lastly ,it's erroneous to say US want to give Nigeria money ,any Americans that comes to Nigeria has a sole purpose of making profit ,even the said aids are not free cos it's being used to sponsor terror and control the government,lobby for more positioning and moreover it's not that Nigerians going to America are plucking money on the tree on picking it on the floor ,they work for it and contributes to US economy.

DoctorStanley:
If I now say you're being myopic you'd complain. China dumps their goods in US but informally closes their market to US goods, no matter how cheap the Chinese goods, you think that's a good thing in the long run??!
That's quite different from preventing people from coming to your country who you KNOW for certain only come to spend money!!

You're not only being myo pic but also lacking in unders tanding .

The word "dump" lacks depth because if there's no market , there won't be importation because it will cause several ripple effects like glut , loss , manufacturers shutting down etc .

China was able to "dump" their market in US because there's market for it , which stems from local manufacturing inability . China is simply doing US favour but despite this , US that is in disadvantage are still thumping their chest high and slamming tarriffs on China , the negative effect is that inflation will skyrocket in US and there will be scarcity , but they dammed all consequences and proceed to fight China .

China closing the door on US goods on the other hand are sufficient in these products hence less negative impact , if you say I'm lying , mention one American product that was blocked in China that causes scarcity or inflation in China ?


Now going to how it relates to people coming to your country to spend money , Chinese goods in US makes things cheaper and readily available , which means happy economy , Nigerians going to US means spending money in US and happy economy for US but if US don't want Chinese products or Nigerians migration , it means lesser happy economy , but still they're proceeding with this policies , so if US are proceeding with these "negative" policies , why shouldn't Nigeria do the same ?


Lastly , I mentioned countries like Egypt, Morocco and South Africa that have the highest visitors in the world , but these countries have tougher immigration policies compared to Nigeria , but people still chose them over Nigeria that has lax immigration policies , which means it's not the policy that makes people want to go to a country but what the country can offer them .

DoctorStanley:
You sound a bit mixed-up - you say don't sell yourself cheap and at same time u say selling will not move bad market! So you admit gragra reciprocity will not sell Nigeria.

You talk as if US has always been overun with Chinese products. They know they were better offwhen they made the products themselves

Perhaps it's your lack of understanding , if US couldn't produce what they're getting from China , why are the not crawling under the feet of Chinese but instead slamming tariff on them ?

If they know that they're bad market(that is currently unable to produce) , why are they not selling themselves cheap to the Chinese ?

The same thing applies to Nigeria , because most Nigerians travel to US than Americans coming to Nigeria doesn't mean we don't have cards to play on those americans coming to Nigeria .

Back to the production , firstly , US lost their manufacturing status because

(1) it's costly to produce in US

(2) resources unavailabilty (every country in the world has a card to play cos natural resources they posses might not be available in other countries , therefore they have to depend on this country that have no matter how insignificant they appear to be )

(3) skill issue (there's a reason why Taiwan is a strategic country to the US because they're the only one that has mastered the production of cheap)

(4) mass production (China has the ability to mass produce but US don't hence mass production leads to surplus while the inability leads to scarcity)

Now going to your They know they were better off when they made the products themselves it boils down to my assertion that despite their weakness in the manufacturing industry , they're still trying to better themselves instead of selling themselves cheap , they do not suffer from inferiority complex like you might be . They want to control their destiny the same way Nigeria wants to control her immigration destiny.

DoctorStanley:
This is one of the most myopic posts I've ever seen. Why not let's stop making anyrhing in Nigeria because made-in-China is cheaper!

People want jobs with decent wages. If you have it you'd have trouble keeping people out of your country. On the other hand if you don't have it and at same time have insecurity and same time have unstable govt and possibllity of coups, you can sell yourself expensive all you want...

Haha ,it's ridiculous the way you say myopic all the time.

Economy is flawless ,Toyota is cheaper than Benz but if both are placed side by side ,I believe you will choose Benz .

Every sensible people knows that local manufacturing is encouraged because they want to make the same products that's imported with cheaper price and perhaps better quality.

People go for Chinese products in US because it's cheaper and it's not readily available in their home country,that's why apple etc all have their factories in China .

If it's readily available in each home country considering , natural resources,labour ,skill set and infrastructure,why go to China ?

But it will be unwise of US to reciprocate tariff when they don't have the ability to produce such products in quality and at a lower price but they proceeded anyway to prove a point.

Check countries that were most visited in Africa last year ,they're tougher on US than Nigeria yet Americans prefer them to Nigeria because of the things they will enjoy in these countries,e.g Morocco,South Africa,Egypt which boils down to my point that you don't sell yourself cheap or try to impress a girl . People know what they want and no amount of advertisement will sell a bad market .

Which means we should look internally for development instead of crawling and grovelling under the feet of people that don't rate us . That's when our stock we rise and we don't have to advertise before we sell .

DoctorStanley:
MONEY, that's why! When everything is made in China all the jobs and resultant tax recenues are alsi in China!

For instance,when Nigeria minister of trade appeared on CNN ,she spoke about exploring alternative markets due to Trump tariff,the same applies to other countries. Which means that America is actually losing not gaining cos there will be more inflation due to the tariffs and scarcity .

Trump didn't think of all those negative effects but proceed to reciprocate tariff and even slammed higher ones .

Consumer taste is funny ,why did people still buy expensive products like Lexus or Benz over cheaper ones like Toyota or Honda ? It's because of the service these expensive ones could offer or the standard they will be placed in the society ,the same thing happens when you sell your country cheap ,tourist will consider it less attractive even without other events like insecurity or so .

Never sell yourself cheap man .

DoctorStanley:
But US also did not reciprocate stupidly, which is the topic of this thread. They always had their eyes on the money NOT on some stupidity.
I bet you if the roles were reversed US would not reciprocate because they know it would only cost them money.
Assuming US decides to impose 50% tax on any remittances from Nigeria, will Nigeria reciprocate and impose 50% tax on remittances from US?
It's NOT everything you reciprocate!!

Why don't you tell us why US is reciprocating tariff even going above with over 150% despite knowing it's US citizens that will bear the cost ?

DeepSight:
US Companies make far more than that in Nigeria.

I may not know but rely solely on publicly available data .

What I'm sure of is that US companies like Shell are involved in our petroleum production which was the backbone of Nigeria petroleum industry before Dangote comes in and it's a lot of money .

DoctorStanley:
You kind of making my point. Their eyes were fixed on the money NOT reciprocity. Suppose those teams start reasoning that Nigeria is not hiring players born in their own countries? They were instead focused on how much tickets such big-name players would sell!

I may not get your point in this ,but from my own deduction, they're concerned about the values these Nigerians will add to their economy,which proves my point that Nigerian going to these countries are not liability but assets.

While it might seem impossible for a player like Osimen to get paid the amount he will be paid in Turkey locally ,these countries didn't just start from nowhere and boom they're the most developed.

For instance ,US was not a very great country let alone a superpower pre WW2 but they continued to strive to develop US and now they're the only superpower. They didn't abandon their country for greater country like UK , Germany or Japan .

Some of their forefathers like Washington, Rockefeller stayed home and developed US to what it is today .

My point is that we don't need to beg to feed from any foreign country but we can look inward and develop .

No country in the world is doing Nigeria favour , instead they're brain draining Nigeria .

DoctorStanley:
This is ridiculous. It is like Man U winning the cup and your concern is that some players were not born in UK!

A good point but do you know that several Nigerians became Chelsea and Arsenal fans because Mikel Obi and Kanu Nwankwo were signed respectively ? The same applies to Oshimen going to turkey that now gain more attention among several others Nigerians , just like Ronaldo going to Saudi popularized the league or Messi going to US .

Nigerians spend a lot of money on DSTV which is not Nigerian owned that pays taxes and copyright to UK , Nigeria also bet more on Uk leagues than Nigerian leagues, Nigerian also buy jerseys and other kits which directly contributes to Uk economy but Nigeria sport is left to ruin that's one of the reasons that local players are not well paid .


Now let's compared it to other African countries like South Africa , Egypt , they're the most developed because most of their players play in local leagues and their citizens spend a lot on these leagues instead of spending it on foreign leagues !

These barbaric laws that originated from 13th century prophet .... culture is dynamic and schools textbook ar updated constantly to avoid being outdated .

Religion has warped a lot of people minds and especially Sharia Law that's why every sensible people must reject the law in SW .

The most sensible law that guides human being are enshrined in UN constitution .

DoctorStanley:
This is so ridiculously myopic. So let's tell each country to stop sending remittances home and stop going to the other country, which country do you think will be most affected by far? This is about MONEY! See it below

That's the blindspot several Nigerians including other countries don't see .

Yesterday , I came across a X post bragging about how US invented telephone and therefore fvck other countries that were complaining why US has +1 number . People began to argue under the post about how Bell that invented it wasn't an American but scottish with Canadian citizenship ,while the Pro America claim the US gave him the platform to be successful.

There are several people like that in US that patented their products in US instead of their home country , I can list tens of them like Nikola tesla, Einstein etc off hand not to even mention some US ops like Paper Clip where they kidnap talented people all over the world to come and develop US .

This remittace might be big in the eye but if all these talents are all in Nigeria , religiously developing Nigeria the same way they're developing other countries like US , that amount will be nothing compared to what we will locally make with much pride .

Now that's that ,do you know how much US companies are making yearly in Nigeria ? According to data, they're making over 1 Trillion naira yearly . If you argue that they're providing jobs , Nigerians are also providing jobs and other services in US , also some US companies like Shel causing a lot of environmental degradation in nigeria far above whatever Nigerians are contributing to the degradation of US environments .

DoctorStanley:
This is some stupid argument. How many David's are there? Any regular Nigeria going to US will consume more social services than any any money they'll spend. When they come here they consume zero, they only spend their own money!

Another fallacious take ,how do you measure the social services they will consume compared to what theyre giving US in return ?

As I've said that's just a popular and recent take , according to data , only 6000 plus americans came to Nigeria last year while in a year 2017 , over 100k Nigerians were issued tourism and education visa , now imagine the amount of money US government would have made on all the visas including rejected but no refunds visa which will be going to miilions of dollars ? now the flight are not handled by Nigeria , the food they will consume in US,the housing etc are all going to US not to mention the amount spent on Education like UK schools that are facing problems because their visa policy now disenfranchised students .. I know middle class people that go to US just for vacations and people that have several homes in US , now tell me , how many americans have house in Nigeria ?


You're thinking Nigeria is worthless because you don't know the value of Nigerians .

Even a normal human being will not want to associate with any Israeli cos they're potential spy let alone all the e vil their government is committing .

It's like some countries that don't want to give Nigerian opportunity because we became a pariah state under Abacha, 419 and drug peddling committed by Nigerians .

DoctorStanley:
Whatever Americans are doing here, we KNOW they'll spend money and go home, NOT hang around and try to get a job cleaning nyash!
Nigerians go there and MAKE money NOT spend money from Nigeris, and most times send home

it's funny cos you think Nigerian going to US don't spend money there but only to make money, that's a very ridiculous take , just last month , Davido was in US speanding a lot of money with his family , that's a popular case , a lot of politicians go there to spend money , a lot of nigeria go to US for tourism and come back to Nigeria same applies to a lot of Midle Class people , and I've said it before, cleaning yansh is providing service for US that without it a lot of their system will collapse , these people cleaning yansh there are also spending money in US .

DoctorStanley:
This is a matter of MONEY not girl. You treat a customer who spends money with you well even if he is an idi*t

simple analogy about how you don't beg people to come to your country but attract them based on what you can offer , like people moving to Lagos despite a lot of tribalism or people going to europe or Us despite a lot of racism because of what they will gain there but going by your logic , it's wrong to assume USA is the only customer , check the trade between both countries you will see that it's almost the same import export but not that Nigeria is a parasitic country that feeds on the goodwill of US.

DoctorStanley:
Just the money Yahoo boys and 419ers bring into the country from America! . But seriously, that's why we should find ways to encourage them to come here - because there is only net gain for us.
Our people go over there and consume their social services and make dollars and send home!
It is NOT everything you reciprocate!

Yahoo boy money doesn't involve Americans coming to Nigeria .

Personally , I don't beg people to be my friend but instead focus on self development , it's like trying to impress a girl , a girl who actually knows you're trying to impress her but the truth is that you don't have the ability , she will abandon the guy , but if you truly have the worth , it's the girl hat will be chasing him .

We should focus on self development and treat "everyone" the same way they treat s .

DoctorStanley:
Funny guy. Comparing forex pouring into the country from US to expatriate money that is totally insignificant to American ecomomy. Simple, the more Americans we can get to visit Nigeria thr more money we'll make. Not so for them

A simple question , where's the forex "pouring" into Nigeria coming from ? Also , Americans coming to Nigeria before , what were/are they ding in Nigeria ?

Good for Yoruba race .

Enough of foreign religions that has beclouded the reasoning of Nigerians .

DoctorStanley:
Definitely not. They're going to wash dishes and clean ass.
There's a reason countries spend millions advertising for tourists. They're not losing any honor

Cleaning ass and washing plate is not different from working on oil rigs , they all get paid for their services.

Nigerians don't go to USA free of charge ,they spend money on visa ,flight and living in US which contributes to US economy.

Any American that come to Nigeria to make money also send that money back to US which is not different from Nigerians working in US that send money back to Nigeria.

Tourism is both way , Nigerians spend money on tourism in US even more than Americans spend money on tourism in Nigeria.

DoctorStanley:
Nigerians go there to try to make Dollars. Americans come here to spend dollars

So Nigerians don't spend money on visa ,on flight and on living which contributes to their economy ?

How many Americans come here to "give" us money ,they either come here as expatriates to work which is not different from Nigeria expatriates in US . These expatriates are paid for their services,not that they're doing free job .

Those that come here for tourism are not different from Nigerias that go to US for tourism .

DoctorStanley:
Pick your fights! It is not every fight you get into.
This stupid government should be making it easy for Americans to come here and spend their money.
Unlike Nigerians going to US, they don't come to make Naira. They come here to spend money!

Ignorance at its peak ,so Nigerians going there are not going there to spend money ?

A man shouldn't lose his honour because of a plate of food .

When just a hair strand can be used for DNA analysis. Dey play .

anonimi:
Why did you read the comment as supporting Abrahamic festivals over traditional festivals

Good point ,now will you also say that Abrahamic festivals also don't provide schools ,good roads and several other social amenities and all festivals should not be given priorities?

dollypi:
"History" really does repeat itself:


I samuel 15: 2-3

"This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

You're simply saying your God is a Geno cide enabler .

And if another person's God is also like your own God then it's who is first to wipe out the other .

anonimi:
How does this affect the productivity of the underpaid and inadequate civil servants who are unable to get every child into free schools and make water available to every household?

The federal government is not responsible for water supply in cities and towns. This is the responsibility of states.

Because Christmas and Sallah get every children into school and provides water for everyone .