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fergie001:
I can say he almost copied what I wrote here in 2022, except for the first few paragraphs.

People obviously knowing me personally attacked me, my family here on NL...with proof of phone no, etc..... I am not doing that again.

Let me repeat what I said..... I backed Soludo's letter 100%.

I repeated in June that year, Obi had no chance to win..... Sit with Tinubu and Atiku the way Wike and Co did and ask them what they are doing for us. Pick the best side and back 101%.... People said I am mad. Everyone is fighting what will better their region and States. It's not an ego thing, it's a how-can-my-region get ahead? People called me mad.

Oya nah, the Igbos are now even below minority tribes, no matter how much we want to brag we have been left behind politically. But for our industrious nature and tenacity, we will have been extinguished as a people, now is the time for us to look at ourselves and region and ask what we want and how we intend to go about it but emotions no go gree us.

You know in your mind in 2027, Obi will not win but find a way to negotiate something better for your region. You must not join the APC.. Otti and Soludo are not in APC, but APC will look away from those States because they are negotiating with the Centre. Under the PDP, Abia had only one Federal Higher Institution, the only Southern State that did, today under APC, we have a Federal Poly and a Federal College of Education brought there by APC bigwigs.
Whilst in the PDP, how did we negotiate?

See, make we sit down for table and decide for ourselves, Simple and short, you need not be subservient but assertive.

. My sentiment exactly

We are now three in number here with this sentiment,me , pazienza and you

We should keep reechoing it , maybe the rest of the igbos here could see reason with us and fall in line. We should keep advocating for an interest base politics at the center that is devoid of emotions but interest. Ndiigbo have suffered enough my brother

fergie001:
You want people to insult my generation?
I am a good guy biko

I have said all that is in 2022.

. Okay ngwanu continue

Just go through what pazienza said here and tell me what you think

I am waiting

unamamatoto:
Bros, your perspective is diabolical and I'm glad to have read through all of your posts on this thread... There was a shift in my perception not about politics but about life in general... Thank you !!!

. Pazienza is a legend here. Very popular in the early days of nairaland

One of the best igbo defender in those days when the rest of Nigeria declared war against igbos in this forum

I am enjoying this thread

Pazienza fire on. If only we have people like you twice here,it would be nice

Fergie001, another old igbo man here who should be teaching the younger igbo generation in this forum about the realities of things in Nigeria is busy playing the good guy

Nigeria is not for the weak or the good but for the strongest

Agbegbaorogboye:
Reading through this, it sounds like you're accusing others of not doing the very same thing you require from them

. He is right you know

pazienza:
Yes we have.
If I knew what I know now in 2011, there was no way I was going to allow us give GEJ the kind of support we gave him.
You would have thought our people would have learnt from that experience, but obviously we haven't and it's very annoying.

Someone is bragging about how Igbos joined SS to walk out over oil derivation percentage, how exactly is that something to be proud of? You are supporting a people who wouldn't support you if the roles turn and you are doing so not out of written agreement or any agreement of any kind, but simply out of emotions and need to play righteous politics in a land of thieves? You wonder why no one is taking you seriously anymore.


That's stupidity and something we shouldn't be proud to be saying. It's something we should be reflecting on in silence and be shuddering at the amount of lack of pragmatism we have displayed in our relationship with non Igbos in Nigeria since 1999 and be thinking of how we can reverse it to start getting better deals nationally by acting ruthlessly in national issues to protect our own interests irrespective of whose horse gets gored.

Imagine how low we have sunk that I saw some Northerners talking about a new alliance with GEJ as president and a Northerner as VP.
They are probably calculating that the emotional senseless Igbos are going to support GEJ again, even when GEJ has remained an ingrate who has done nothing to reciprocate the huge support Ndiigbo gave him, his Bayelsa people couldn't even vote for Obi last elections.
That's how low we have sunk as a people, the rest of Nigeria don see us finish, a finished emotional people incapable of playing politics of interests, always eager to play the foolish Messiah and righteous role and be left with short end of the stick.

Our wise ancestors must be turning in their graves over what have become of modern Igbos.

We are in deep trouble.

. The trouble is very deep

I am of the opinion that if the north comes with alliance talk with the east,obi should deputize Atiku or any other northern candidate. It's no longer a gentleman's game

Fuq southern unity. What do you think?

pazienza:
Nwanne thanks for the compliment.
Nigeria issues can be tiring, and then we still have Igbo issues.
I use to think our people were a wise people, but the more I dug deep into our modern day behaviour and handling of our position in modern Nigeria, the more I saw folly and it messed up my mental health.
I needed some break to concentrate on my personal goals.
That's why I became scarce here.

I do look around once in while here to chip in one or two contributions.
There is only so much we can do individually.

Ya gazie.

. Nke bu eziokwu is that, politics is not our thing,we attach too much emotions to it

And we have also shown too much emotions and attachments to the south south. We have to move away from this and join the rest of the big three to eat what is left of the country

pazienza:
He can continue contesting if he wishes, I would vote for him if I were in Nigeria.
But it must be spelled out claim to non Igbos that voting for Obi doesn't equate to doing Ndiigbo a favour, and Ndiigbo cannot be blackmailed by their votes for or against Obi.

The worst they can do is vote APC and we will all continue enjoying the dividends of democracy APC is offering, it's that easy .

Obi is contesting for himself, not for Ndiigbo.
This is important to state , because I noticed that the common trend by minorities and even non Igbos that claim to have voted for Obi in the last elections is that they seem to have the delusional belief that they did Ndiigbo a favour by voting Obi and that Ndiigbo must walk around the egg shell with them, just to make sure they vote for Obi next elections, we should accept all sorts of rubbish from them and dare not speak out.
You can imagine the delusional complex from these lots.

Well newsflash to them, they should be grateful to Ndiigbo for giving them Obi as an alternative to APC, the gratitude should be from them to Ndiigbo, and not the other way round.

. Oga pazienza,I am not happy as you decided to play shadowy role in this platform, we need more of your inputs here, even though kids here no longer allow intelligentsia like you to properly assess thread and give meaningful comments without derailing the thread. We shouldn't give up, igbo nation is still at war ooo. I don't know if you know that

pazienza:
I tire brother.
Imagine the weak beggie beggie attitude.
The SS is free to do whatever they want, we will also react accordingly.
Nah game of thrones.

And he is dead wrong on Igbanke issue.
As long as Igbanke kings maintain that they are Igbos every well breastfed Igbo son will stand with them and against Oba Bini hegemony interest in Igbanke.
The Bini people can do whatever they want, they can all vote APC or whatever, we will all enjoy the dividends together.

No one, I repeat no one is doing Ndiigbo a favour by voting or supporting Peter Obi. Ndiigbo will not be blackmailed because you voted and want to vote Peter Obi.
If you are not voting Peter Obi because he is the best candidate available, then you can as well vote APC, we go all enjoy well. We have 5 states that will continue receiving monthly allocations from FG irrespective of who is the president, all we need is to hold them accountable by ensuring we vote the right governors and we will be fine.
Peter Obi himself will be fine too, his Fidelity bank just declared profits few days ago.

All these Igbo Obidients rolling on the floor for minorities are beginning to annoy me like IPOB people.
Obi political ambitions is not bigger than Igbo national interests.
Minorities he is talking about, Bayelsa voted for APC last elections, GEJ was seen moving around with Tinubu before the elections, this was a man we all died for in two election cycles, yet the ingrate couldn't even lender Obi support, Akwaibom voted PDP, Rivers voted APC( anyone can claim it was rigged, but it only happened because Obi didn't have fanatic support there, like GEJ had in Igboland), Obi barely won Cross River, Obi won Edo, but the margin of victory was hardly "sweeping".
Juxtapose this half hearted support Obi got from those places from the fanatical 90% plus support that we gave to GEJ in 2011 and 2015 and you see where our problems lie .

We must eschew from appealing to people emotions when it comes to politics and learn to meet them exactly where they are willing to meet us. Wickedness must be matched with wickedness, tribalism with tribalism, hate for hate, resentment for resentment, that's the way to go.

. Ahhhh! The legendary pazienza,see tears rolling down my eyes

God bless you Nnam, if we get people like you to lead the igbo nation, to God nobody go fit match us for this country

For me, you are the igbo leader on this forum since 2010. God bless you again for reechoing my sentiment exactly. This is the only survival route for us in this contraption

fergie001:
Let's say the truth, can you take out rigging from this 2027 election?
You know the rigging will be on AI level, don't you?
So it's better to start preparing!

. You have said it all

The rigging will be so glaring

At least he was very economical with the LIES, why not 95%?

This man shouldn't be allowed to return to the green chamber again,I trust umu Aba to retire the parrot. The anger in the land is boiling,it will soon reach it's sparking point

fergie001:
I am sure of 25% in Abia.

. Through rigging

Oga fergie001, you know this,I know this, everyone else know this

kedeojo:
They are menace in Edo state. I supported the demolition. Aye cult is the major promoter of crisis and cult war in Edo state. Many of the members are criminals and political thugs. That fool should go to east and build their office there not coming to talk nonsense in Edo matters. Which acquisition training center are they talking about. I know those terrain very well. Let the governor continue to destroy anything that is attached to cultism. They create fear for people. It has been passed by the lawmakers. Any cultist found holding meeting will be jailed and if they kill, it is automatic death sentence.

. Funny Yoruba man

The spokesman of the group is from the south south. Yoruba man with limited knowledge of the better south

chrisxxx:
I blame Tinubu and Ibas wife for not censoring attendance. They would have asked all the LG Administrators to bring or nominate those to attend.

. Why are you APC guys so heart.less? So it's now a crime for people to express their feelings? You guys hate opposition forgetting that you all existed today as a result of a president allowing opposition to thrive

Thundafireseun:
it’s really not a good idea to trying to be nice to Nigerians….

. Really?

No wonder you support APC and tinubu. Funny Yoruba man

Tflex01:
The so called NANS president and the new god of Obidients is a 51 year old Atiku's boy. 😂

😂 😂 😂

. Una don rush go do photocopy of this young man with Atiku just now now

Una no just get shame. Ronu bandits

kedeojo:
Do you expect to form alliance with you toxic igbos that keep insulting them and killing them. They will still be the next president after tinubu cos Tinubu will handover to them and probably a south south will deputize. The way obi even ran is propaganda election in 2023, which core north will trust any igbos again. Only the yorubas can still have mercy on you people cos they tolerated you people in the past but they just prove to you people in 2023 electioneering campaign that they have what it takes to tame you people.

. Okay I have heard you

Funny Yoruba man

It is obvious kanu will be released before 2027

ekitimanalways:
Every Igbo should use this so-called big heart to develop South East.

. Southeast is more developed than Ekiti state, your home state

Dalohad:
Nwoke m mechionu, Onu butuzor. Oji onu 1 of Nairaland.

. Oga go run am if you fit run am

ledaman:
Can you see how foolish you are.
What has Religion have to do with the discuss?
You are a big time Bigot

. Answer the damn question jooorrrr

What is an Ahmed looking for in Bayelsa state

Dalohad:
You have a big mouth.

. If you get the mind,run am naa let's see. This one no be cho cho cho

Ahmed0336:
Is this your father's forum?
Btw, I am a Nigerian so get the heck outta my mentions.

. You didn't answer my question mr

Taaa Igbos too get mind

No tribe comes close in Nigeria. Go to Malaysia and see areas Malaysian police are scared to enter because igbos have taken control of the area. Strong men full igbo land

The only people that comes close in terms of having a big heart are the Benins and somehow fulanis(Their own na wickedness)

Ahmed0336:
Their termination of appointment no worry me.
My own be say fellow bayelsans, Una governor dey work? To be honest, I never hear anything like commissioning from that state.

. What business does an Ahmed(A Yoruba Muslim for that matter) have with Bayelsa state?

Front0lane:
Exactly that is why Theodore appointed his housemad as governor and your fathers in igboland could not do a thing about it.

. Yoruba man, you no fit understand wetin dey sub here for East. You just can't

Igbos are known to be very individualistic. They hate being dictated to. Anyway, I am certain you know all these shaa

Governor Francis Nwifuru of Ebonyi state was part of those who initiated this peace meeting but punch newspaper,a Yoruba propaganda newspaper had to remove his name and put in the two Yoruba names so that they can take in the glory themselves

This is how the Yorubas through their fake news media manipulate the country to always switch emotions to their side and some gullible people from the north and south always fell for it

We all saw the role Yorubas played in 2015 when they collabed with the north to oust a sitting southern president but now their propaganda newspaper are now pushing the narratives that tinubu who spearheaded the removal of southern president is now crying for a southern unity that they destroyed themselves and some fickle minded people from the south are falling for the deceit

Give it to the Yorubas, they sure knows how to manipulate the rest of the south into falling in line with their game plan

Obiedun:
Must it be necessarily under the control of the governor?

. Yes as it in other saner clime in the SS/SE. Well, I can't say the same for Yoruba land. Emilo okan has caged the entire southwest

What is really going on in this country?

How did the party structure slip away from the governor's control?

Cc: Fergie

chiiraq802:
But Orji Uzor Kalu held sway in Abia politricks for years....He was like a Godfather in Abia State even wen he decamped to APShit he was still in charge of Abia State B4 LP won.

So cari ur hypocricy go sit down 4 one place

. The same orji uzor kalu that has been reduced to nothing in Abia state. That orji uzor kalu is in the Senate today is because of the structure of criminality in the country that we are talking about. He always find a way to rig himself in with his financial warchest

Funny Yoruba man