₦airaland Forum

I was expecting to read how and what Tinubu and Buhari came to revenge, but as usual, it's a beer parlour story with no basis, just a story that forms when too much aIcohoI has been swallowed.

iwaeda:
The closer it seems, the farther it becomes, July, 4 days ago, now August. We told you the refinery is not read.

You prefer that it's not ready?
Yet you will say you want a prosperous country?

OneCandleAway:
Nigerian youths still sleeping. Very soon Big brother naina will start to distract them. Have you notices only in Africa they hold big brother yearly in Nigeria only. No other African country has done big brother yearly like us. Because other African youths are too serious about their future to be distracted by big brother.

If these Kenya youths were in nigeris they'll set RCCG on fire.

Other African youths are so serious yet most African countries are sh*t?
Do u people think before talking at all?
When you set out to the streets to protest, what are your aims and objectives?
What do you want to achieve and how do you want to achieve it?
Not until you get these things right, u will burn institutions and end up not achieving anything, Nigerians protested in 2020, South Africans protested last year, Kenyans are now protesting, what has all these achieved?
Development?
Growth?
Employment?

fuckingAyaya:
who will bear the brunt? Obi or Nigerians?

Provided his fàke Leadership in Anambra couldn't uplift the people, Nigerians will never choose to come and place another yoke on 200m people.

Salvador1:
Nigerians did it in 2023 and he won.

You win from 3rd position?

Kukutenla:
Is the point of granting LG autonomy to make people focus on LG?
How does it make sense to focus on just 20%? What happens to the remaining 80%

Read the constitution, you will realize that your LG and SG are actually the 80% while the FG is the 20%

He simply described his followers who sing his praises even when they know he's not right.

fuckingAyaya:
The man no send your liking, hope you are enjoying the truthful one on seat.

Nigerians will never vote Obi as president.

ChukwuEmeka00:
I appreciate your knowledge of Tiv land. I've met quite a few Tivs myself, more Christians than Muslims. However, I got the impression from the media that they're a Muslim majority.

I may be wrong.

However, the fact remains that there was a Tiv massacre by the federal government in 1965, which fuelled revolutionary elements like the coup plotters act.

The electoral malpractice of 1964/65, Tiv massacre, Akintola riots in Western Nigeria, and ethnic tensions along political lines fuelled the coup.

It was not the only coup being planned.

In fact, when Nzeogwu discovered that 2 other coups were being planned, most likely for 17th of January, they changed their date to 15th of January.

The Tiv massacre happened, and it influenced the coupists, regardless of whether Tivs became Muslim or not. Muslim officers were used to replace Christian officers who couldn't murder innocent people.

As for your second point, I think you're just running away from the truth. You're right about every party writing whatever suits them, but you must use logic when reading to filter truth from lies.

Ahmadu Bello was many things but never a pretender. He was honest about his hatred for Igbos and his belief of the superiority of Islam in Nigeria. That's why he was not a politician. He was brutally honest so he won't bother telling you stories to suit himself.

He doesn't care if it doesn't suit you. Balewa was almost like Ahmadu Bello. He imposed Akintola on the Western region, not minding whether they wanted him or not. He also was direct.

Therefore, whatever you read about this two is most likely true. They were so obsessed with power and superiority that they openly wanted to subdue everyone.

Tivs are not predominantly Muslims, there are more idoma Muslims than Tiv Muslims (if any at all) in Benue State.
Like I told you, we can go back and forth over this for ages.
First and foremost, military personnel sent to Tiv was a response to the riot which broke out in Yandev targeting NPC officials, the Tivs never wanted to be led by a Fulani majority even before independence, that was why the United Middle Belt Congress was formed and led by J.S. Tarka, this congress was in alliance with Action Congress because they want to be carved out of the north. So no "Tiv massacre" fuelled any coup plotter.
There is a saying that goes "there's always three sides to a story, your side, my side and the truth".
You were not there during the coup, u are quoting from Gboyega's book against Danjuma, the difference between Gboyega and Danjuma right now is that one is dèàd and the other is alive, one put his own side in writing and the other is saying it but in your opinion, one is more truthful than the other?
We can't filter truths from Iies because u were not there, they will all blend the story to suit themselves, one can't be more right than the other.

WINON1:
They know that their master is dirty, that's why they are struggling to paint obi black.

Lienus is not clean per say

Lienus and his followers are not happy.
People will focus alot on LGA chairpersons now.

shortgun:
If Nigeria had a President with integrity other countries will hold Nigerians in high regard.
Nigerians have become the target of xenophobic attacks since Tinubu became president.
You dare not mistreat an American citizen in another country even if he's a terrorist, drug dealer or trafficker.

Xeñóphobîc àttàcks has not happened since Tinubu became president.
Statements like yours are majorly the reason why people in other countries don't hoId u in high regards, nobody holds someone who àbûses his family on the streets in high regards even if the family is bàd.
You can't have Nigerians coming to social media to insuIt Nigeria where those foreigners will see it and u expect them to respect u, they will appreciate u for throwing ur country under the bus because it helps them get the social media win, but they people who supported them are the ones who will feel the disrespect they buiIt for their country.
South Africans wóñ't kiII a Moroccan like that because they don't see Moroccans behaving like that on social media.

I don't really about these foIks who get kiIIed or maItreated in foreign countries, their type are the ones on Nairaland who are quick to say "I'm not in Nigeria" just to prove that they are successful or have made it big or they don't have a probIem anymore because they are not in Nigeria.
They are the ones who will be quick to tell you "travel out and stop celebrating mediocrity in Nigeria".
They can kiII a thousand of them and I really won't be moved because I haven't seen a crop of people who will travel out and start abûsiñg their country and when things go south, they expect same country they have been abûsiñg to come to their aid, they expect same citizens they have been mocking to speak on their behalf.

COOL10:
They wanted to teach Igbos a political lesson but ended up putting their own people in a pit of poverty.

Most of the people complaining are actually lgb0s.

ChukwuEmeka00:
Well, if you have any data to prove that the Tiv are not a Muslim majority, I'd be happy to get it from you.

But one thing is clear: Tivs were being murdered by the Balewa government, especially between 1965 till after the 1966 coup.

They claimed it was cause by demands by the Tivs to create their own state, even though "States" did not exist in Nigeria at the time.
The Tivs simply didn't want to remain part of the Northern region and wanted to be carved out just like the Mid-west region was carved out of the West. But someone, it turned into a religious matter with Islamic undertones.

Maj. Christian Anuforo, who participated in the coup joined them because he wanted to help overthrow the Balewa government after what he witnessed in Tiv land.

He was the head of the Recce squad who were ordered to murder innocent people in Tiv land. When they found out he was protecting them by hiding them, he was transferred and replaced with murderous soldiers loyal to Balewa and Ahmadu Bello.

That convinced him that Nigeria needed to be cleansed from those bloodthirsty politicians.


Your second question is really smart.

I used the word "coup" because it was a military operation to be led by Murtala Mohammed and assisted by Gowon to overthrow regional governments and install new ones loyal to Balewa.

The goal was to eliminate all the political elites in the Western region and Eastern region as Ademoyega stated in page 93 of his book, "Why We Struck."

The military operation was to follow the goals contained in the famous speech of Ahmadu Bello published in 1964, which showed that he (and other northern leaders) believed they had the god-given right to subdue the rest of Nigeria militarily, politically and religiously.

That's where the Islamization agenda rumours came from.

Newspapers carried it in the 1960s so I suggest you go find ways to verify by tracing such news. I particularly remember seeing a copy of Parrot newspaper years ago showing such a speech by the Sardauna.

Therefore, the ideology belonged to the Sardauna but Balewa remained the political head.

As Ahmadu Bello said, "we will use willing tools " to achieve our aim. The willing tools in the statement alluded to politicians who had no loyalty to their own people, but would easily shift loyalties for personal gains.

Their first willing tools was Samuel Ladoke Akintola who was imposed by Balewa. Ademoyega stated:

By November 1965, the people had started to fight the unpopular Akintola government. They sang war songs and fought in the streets. By December 1965, there had been a total breakdown of law and order in Western Nigeria."

According to other sources from history, over 2,000 people were killed during the riots in the West, especially in Lagos.

Yet, the Balewa government upheld Akintola against the people's wishes while Awolowo was locked up in prison.

The coup plotters planned to release Awolowo, against the wishes of the Federal government.

Well, first and foremost, you didn't provide any data to show Tivs are predominantly Muslims so you shouldn't be asking for data that counter such claims.
I have travelled to Tiv land in several places, seen so many Tivs both in and out of Benue yet I have never for once met a Tiv that's Muslim, that doesn't mean they don't exist but they are rare to find, Tivs and Islam don't go together before saying they are mostly Muslims, inshort the Tiv lifestyle of alcoholism and pork as one of their favorite knocks them out of Islam and vice versa.
That ascertion is wrong and very very wrong as at that.

Your second explanation, well, I haven't read enough books to agree that what you are saying is right, but from the few I have read, I just realized every party will write the story to justify themselves, if listen to Ahmadu Bello's version, it will be different, same as that of Balewa will be different.
If you listen to Ironsi, his version will be different so we will continue to argue back and forth endlessly.

immortalcrown:
The autonomy is only for collection of federal allocations, not for spending the allocations. So, what has really changed?

Remember that every state has its own electoral body (not INEC) that conducts local government chairmanship elections. With this, governors will make their puppets LGA chairmen and decide how those chairmen spend the federal allocations.

If you think the chairmen can decide to disobey the governors, think of how many LGA chairmen that are clean enough to boldly and successfully disobey their political godfathers. Remember that the puppets selected as LGA chairmen are the ones with rotten profiles that can be used to blackmail and silence those chairmen when those chairmen prove stubborn.

You too can become LGA chairman and transform your society, people who think they love the country and want to transform it.

In a country where street lighting, creating streets and naming it, building cemeteries and maintaining them, building streets, sanitation, building parks etc etc are the constitutional responsibilities of the LG, the autonomy is very necessary.
Trying to defend Obi means u should prètènd the truth is wrong?
U foIks are really pathetic, when this starts paying off, u will enjoy it but u prefer u don't enjoy it because it doesn't tell well on Obi that dón't care about you?





NB: those of u claiming to be so savvy when it comes to governance, go and transform ur LGA now.

Mbanda:
Where exactly did I derail in my post? You know am still in line with the topic its just that you lack words to counter what I said.

Countering will derail, that's what I don't want to engage in

Bridget95:
Oh that is why we have Muslim vice-president and Muslim president after a Muslim president left office

That's where u get it wrong, religion and tribe is not for the political class, they use it as a tool to sway u, that ticket was used to battIe with Atiku in the north because it will appeal to the northern masses that two Muslims will lead the country after one Muslim just left office, that's how religion and trîbè is to politicians, to pIay the masses.

dettolgel:
Why do you keep digging yourself in, is it that bad?

" I don't need dates for a weather that doesn't concern me" is something that someone that is limited in some ways will easily blurt out.

I already told u I'm limited in so many ways, u seem lost because I told u I'm limited in so many ways?
LOL.

Ikinternational:
I have TV's bigger than your size you dumb fvck.

Just rambling n don't even understand the phrase

May the Igbo headache last eternal
Amen

Nobody gets a headache about people who see a TV as achievement in this age when sitting in front of a TV is waste of productive time.

kYjelly2:
To distract from a bad economy and even to retain the seat of power, APC is going full overdrive on anti-Igbo slurs

They have employed people to spread Igbo hate, hoping that this will make hungry or unsatisfied Nigerians stay quiet to suffer in silence, while holding on to Igbo hate as a sort of comfort.

Notice that everyone that criticizes Tinubu is automatically termed IGBO, not benin, not some other tribe, just Igbo.

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I'm sorry APC guys, but this strategy can't trump peoples reactions to a bad economy. Only a very few obstinate tribalist will go to bed at night hungry, dreaming about the Igbos. It won't work sorry.

As for winning elections, I really don't think Tinubu can get up to 10,000 votes if the elections are to be free and fair, I just don't see it.

All YOUR FAKE NAIRALAND LIKES, DON'T TRANSLATE TO ANYTHING GUYS, PEOPLE ARE SEEING THROUGH THEM, OR WILL BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE FAKE LIKES

When lgb0s are the ones insuIting and cûrsîng other trîbès on daily basis, they get a taste of their own medicine and they start saying people's pay them to defend themselves from lgb0s, before today ends, lgb0s will create over 50 threads on Nairaland, make series of posts on Facebook and Twitter, when those they are àttàckîng reply them, it is Tinubu that is paying them.
Una no get shame abi?

Bobloco:
The good thing is that Peter Obi conducted local government elections in Anambra State. But the issue is that why did he conduct local government elections just a few months to the end of this tenure?

Throwback, you aren't saying anything about the fact that Tinubu also conducted local government elections once in his eight-year tenure.

The last time I checked, the longest tenure a democratically elected local government chairmen or councillor can spend is 3 years, so why did Tinubu conduct local government elections once?

People posting about Obi are not asking you, they make posts with facts, you sef try make your own post with facts.

ChukwuEmeka00:
60 years after, Danjuma is still peddling petty lies.

As I write this, I have "Why We Struck" by Maj. Adewale Ademoyega (who plotted the coup with Nzeogwu) in my hands.

He categorically said, "The coup was not an Igbo coup" and insinuated that northern politicians loyal to Ahmadu Bello (who was plotting a coup according to another source) concocted those lies and fed the media to garner sympathy.

There were 3 coups being planned.

Ademulegun's version was slated for January 17th. Col. Victor Banjo was the recruiter for that coup (even though he was wrongfully arrested for the Nzeogwu coup).

Ahmadu Bello's version was called a jihad because it was basically a coup that was meant to continue the Uthman Dan Fodio conquest. Murtala Mohammed was to led that conquest packaged as a coup.

Recall that the Tiv massacre was ordered by Tafawa Balewa, the then Prime Minister who was a puppet of Ahmadu Bello. The Tivs at the time were Christians. After the massacre, they miraculously became a Muslim majority.

Go figure!

Back to Ironsi, Maj. Ademoyega stated the following in Chapter 6:

"From the dawn of the coup, Lieutenant Colonel Victor Banjo had been fired by the little amount of success that we had and he was determined to stretch our success further, to bring about the realisation of our objectives.

He went all out to assist Ironsi to take over the Federal government and went further to urge the old man, not only to accede to Nzeogwu's demands, but also to bring the latter (Nzeogwu) into the federal government. This was were he disagreed with others (like Danjuma) who had Ironsi's ears and who alleged that he was with us.

As such, on a flimsy accusation that he entered the office of the Supreme Commander with a pistol in his pocket, he was arrested and sent to the same prison where some of our own group were already detained.

This happened even before Nzeogwu was arrested. Thereafter, Banjo was treated as if he was one of us."

If you understand the above quote, you'd realise that Danjuma is a snake who lies to get away with his secret agendas.

First, he claims the coup was an Igbo coup, but here's a Yoruba man who was co-plotter in the coup debunking his lies. Another Yoruba man who believed that the coup plotters were patriotic even helped the Igbo man (Ironsi) to take power and urged him to bring the coup plotters into the federal government.

Now, why did Yoruba soldiers and Igbo soldiers work together (with few northerners) to eliminate the politicians who were destroying Nigeria?

Ademoyega stated the following on page 92 (before the coup) during his chance encounter with Chief H. O. Davies, a Yoruba politician who was also a federal minister:

"Chief Davies made it clear to me that the federal government had no solution to the political crisis. He said that everybody was just waiting to see what would happen next and nobody knew what that would be."

He went on to state that:

"After extensive prodding (around 3rd January,1966), we discovered that the Balewa government had a terrible plan to bring the Army fully to operate in the West (Yoruba majority region) for the purposes of eliminating the elites (top leaders) of that region, especially the intellectuals... people like Tai Solarin of Mayflower school, Ikenne were among those marked down."

He continued, "It was also intended (by the Balewa government) that if the plan succeeded in the West, the next target would be the East (Igbo majority region). The federal government was to use loyal troops for this purpose and the 4th Battalion in Ibadan commanded by Lieutenant Colonel Largema and the 2nd Battalion in Ikeja temporarily commanded by Major Igboba, but soon to be taken over by Lieutenant Colonel Gowon, were designated for this assignment."

The Ahmadu Bello connection comes next...

"The operation (to use the army to subdue West & East) was fixed for the 3rd week of January 1966, when the Sardauna (Ahmadu Bello) would have returned from pilgrimage, and Lieutenant Colonel Gowon would have completed his take over of the Ikeja Battalion.

In preparation for this, the high echelons of the Nigerian army and the Police were being reshuffled."

Danjuma also tried to make it look like Ironsi was part of the coup and was supporting the coup plotters. Here's how Adewale narrated the D-day and how they failed to get Ironsi:

"Major Okafor came along with bad news that General Ironsi had not been found at home when he went there. He was said to have gone to another party after Maimalari's. But he had since surfaced at Dodan barracks and succeeded in raising troops against us."

This Theophilus Danjuma was used by Yakubu Gowon to fulfill the wishes of the Federal government under Balewa to take out Ironsi and spin the 1966 coup as an Igbo coup.

He's a shameless man not worthy of the honour of soldiers.

First off, "The Tivs at the time were Christians. After the massacre, they miraculously became a Muslim majority." This is a very big Iie, Tivs are not Muslim majority.
Secondly, you said Ahmadu Bello wanted to carry out a coup that will continue what Danfodio started, Tafawa Balewa was his boy, so who was Ahmadu Bello going to carry out his coup against?

Dantedasz:
But people have been passing off a false narrative that Danjuma killed Ironsi when he was actualluykilled by Lt. Garba Paiko. Interesting.

It is actually his fauIt, when you allow people tell Iies for so long, it starts sounding like the truth, he should have debunked the lies years ago.

Reno said most of these things he's saying now but obidents don't like Reno.

People dishing advice about good governance, time to become the chairman of your LGA.

All the people dishing out advice about how to transform societies from their phones and laptops, it's time to do so by being the chairman of your LGA.

sultanofpigs:
Very Rubbish and foolish statement.

U will learn this in 2031, hopefully.

GeneralPula:
The tribal politics they played in the last election has shown that no Nigeria politician needs SE to win elections in Nigeria - ibos successfully shown that to politician..

For a region to give out 99% of vote to 1 candidate, yet he came third shows how needless they're for election.

They didn't vote Tinubu, he came first..
They didn't vote Atiku, he came 2nd..

You dey see am?

See, tinubu's structure is one of the major thing any Nigeria politician that's wanting to be president needs mostly! Buhari himself used his ladder to climb. It is one of the reasons it will be hard for any politicians that's serious with presidential ambition to go against tinubu..

Securing 25% in 29 states out of 36 states is no joke. The moment you decided to switch away from him, another set of politicians will stand up to take your place. That's politics and it's also life. People only want to be with winners!

They don't see it that way, to bèat ur opponent, you have to see his strength and acknowledge it, they don't acknowledge his strength that's why they find it difficult to bèat him, SE is farther away from presidency than ever, they cañ't align with SW, they won't make it with NE and NW, also getting NC and SS completely is difficult but they think noise win elections, it doesn't, no northerner who really wants to win the presidency will go against Tinubu, going against him means they need a strong southern alliance especially from SW.

Mbanda:
Is it the people that flew into the country that made mc oluomo and his goons, to cause mayhem in Lagos and other parts of Nigeria because of election?

Is it the people that flew into the country to vote tinibu, the ones causing and bullying Igbos just because, Igbos said that tinibu will not deliver?

Make comments that align with the topic not derailing.

Tochi3:
..what other opinion do you hold against those you envy so much..

..you must see the lies, deceit & propaganda as an explanation to fuel your desire for hatred, jealousy & tribalism against the Igbos....

..i can imagine you moving all over Oshogbo on bear foot with so much hatred & bile in you..

Attend a school, that's how to liberate the mind.