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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 8:00am On Jun 22, 2024
odizeey:
Football quality done drop sha.
See nonsense passes everywhere
Most people are aware but unfortunately, they are living in denial....

Tourneys like this, I no dey even bother...probably till late knockout stage
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolla: 3:43pm On Jun 21, 2024
Ellexy:
You see the review isn't just about the manager as it is more about the way everything is run at the club. And to answer your question, every new Admin has goals and objectives and they'll assess whoever the current manager is to know they're all on the same page be it Guardiola or Klopp. Just that the situation at United is bad compared to the clubs you mentioned and the coach will always be under the spotlight.
If city have new owners, would they start interviewing coaches up and down or would they immediately start following up on contract extension for Pep?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Jamiuokolla: 12:48pm On Jun 20, 2024
TrebleChamp:
Thanks Ibime and GloriousGbola for the wise advice, i didn't even realise i spilled that much. May village people no go reason person....
Talk truth - where were you typing from all those times grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 8:25pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
Pep is coaching a club and met Ferguson coaching a club and beat him almost into coma
undecided

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:51pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
You say Ferguson is your best coach, Pep disgraced the best coach multiple times flogging him almost into coma

So if he can do that to Ferguson, then imagine what he will do to tier 4 coaches like Scaloni, Scolari, Deschamps and Loew

Ferguson hand shaking with Pep induced Parkinson

https://twitter.com/City_Chief/status/1266074259446796290
Ferguson wasn't in charge of a NT....

Pep, like other clever managers, is currently avoiding an NT job that might "stain his white"

Shikena!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:41pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
Pep is competing against clubs who spend as much. Around the time Pep was buying Alves, Your team and Alex Ferguson were spending more or similar amounts on Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson and Berbatov yet that did not stop Pep from brutally sodomizing Ferguson in the champions league,

He even did it twice in a game Ferguson admitted was his worst in his career

The same point and kill that Ferguson had and still got beaten like Celestial church drumsets
I didn't know the Man UTD wey Fergie dey coach that time na NT.

You have been caught - omo orogun in hand yet again

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:22pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
How many 100 of millions did Pep spend to win sextuple in his first season as a coach
Dani Alves was one of the most expensive defenders in world football at that time, and was also one of the most expensive players in Barca's history.

In today's market, Alves wouldn't cost less than 200m cool

raumdeuter:
No self respecting coach at the peak of his career wants a job where he will coach for 15 games mostly friendlies in an entire calendar year when his mates are coaching competitive games twice in 7 days
In addition, coaches are also being wise and would prefer to choose their battles carefully.

Why would Pep settle for a job wey be say, just one or two mistakes, his team don Comot and he would Have to wait for another 4years to redeem himself.

Why would he settle for a job where there is no point and kill transfer window where he can buy a 100m player and keep him on the bench
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:07pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
Top managers are avoiding NT because it's not a competitive environment for them. It's for retired and tier 4 coaches.
Top managers are also avoiding it because it isn't representative of their coaching nous, there is little time to rectify mistakes and in event of failure, they would have to wait for so long before they can redeem themselves - a wait period during which they would be classified as failures

raumdeuter:
Did Scaloni Deschamps Low and Scolari spend on players before they won?
Has Pep not been spending hundreds of millions before he dominates?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:00pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
It's like saying old student 100m race is vibes and Insha Allah but what will peak Usain Bolt be able to do there
A better analogy would be : why Usain Bolt no go win long distance race, after all Marathon and sprint na race..

As they say, Mango no be orange but the two of them na fruit

raumdeuter:
If Scolari Scaloni Low Deschamps and those tier 4 coaches can win, we now wonder what the coaching GOAT can do?
Coaching GOAT no go do anything because no Transfer window to blast hundreds of millions of pounds on players....

The same reason it took Messi so long to eventually win is the same reason why it isn't sure for coaching Goat or anybody at NT.

Like I said, there is a reason these top managers are steering clear of NT even with the incentive of World cup medal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 6:42pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
Was there any assurance that Pep will win CL without Messi?

Was there any assurance that Pep will win EPL?

Was there any assurance that Pep will be the only coach to make 100points in epl history?

Was there any assurance that Pep will win 4 epl in a row for the first time in the league history?

Was there any assurance that Pep will win treble and match Ferguson?

All these he did with aplomb but what's the assurance he will do what Loew Scaloni Scolari did?
Because like you said, NT football is Vibes and insha Allah where he would be unable to implement his tactics.

You yourself clearly outlined the significant differences between managing a club and NT, yet you have decided to compare both again

Nawa o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 6:32pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
World cup is the peak for a player not a coach.
This is the list of world cup winning coaches

Scaloni, Deschamps, Loew, DelBosque, Scolari
How many of these are top coaches?
Scolari after his success in Brazil and Portugal was sacked after 1 season in Chelsea from there straight to Turkey


Low from coaching division 2 teams went to win world cup

Players finished at club in May ending, the coach takes them to world cup in June, what did the coach impart into them in 2 weeks? Just vibes and insha Allah

Very fee NT coaches are actually competent and top coaches. It's a job for coaching rejects


Bring Scaloni to an average team in la liga or Madrid and let's see him
You are the one making your argument for yourself

The crux of the matter is that there is no assurance Pep would succeed as an NT manager - you yourself don give reasons to support this.

I even clearly stated that I wouldn't even rate him based on his performance at a NT because it isn't indicative of a coach's abilities.

Please go through the discussion afresh again biko

I don't know why you are turning Amala here again
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 6:23pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
So what's unique about this?

The cuntay who won the league finished 5th next season
Conte still won a trophy that season.

How's that the same with winning Euros...only for your team failing to score a single goal in a WC group that had Denmark and senegal...barely 2years after
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 6:15pm On Jun 18, 2024
raumdeuter:
Current Euro champion is Mancini
Current world champion is Scaloni

What have they achieved in football?
Is World cup no longer the main thing again? grin

raumdeuter:
National team is not a poisoned chalice it's a retirement ground, an uncompetitive environment where you coach max 15 to 20 games a whole year

Which serious coach at the peak of his career will choose that
The world cup being the pinnacle trophy in world football , should be enough incentive for successful managers to further cement their places as G.O.A.Ts but as we have seen, most are wary of NT jobs....for obvious reasons.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 1:59pm On Jun 18, 2024
drisham:
Why not Benin Republic??
But na you use your hand type say Pep go win with any team na cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla:
Jodera:
But all these ones are "one offs" Sha.

For every example you give, there are tons of average coaches with good teams who excelled. See scolari Brazil for example.

Del Bosque of Spain is another one. I doubt that one Sabi tiki taka but because he saw Barca contingent, him come Sabi am tiki taka for Spain by miracle grin grin
This is why I said earlier that for me o, I wouldn't use NT tourney football to rate - it isn't entirely representative of the actual abilities of a coach and even players....

I checked again and saw that Trapatonni - a serial winner previously with Juve, Inter, Bayern etc was the manager in charge of Italy's embarrassment at the 2002 WC cheesy

There is a real reason most of these managers "dodge" NT assignment - that job is a poisoned chalice!

Let me just put it this way for proper context - I wouldn't judge Pep for failing at Country level
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 1:02pm On Jun 18, 2024
Jodera:
While what you said is true but at least he earned the right to be a cheque book manager.

The only reason why I cant vouch that will win league is that he won't be a cheque book manager in Spurs. But that won't stop them from being competitive in league and winning one or two cups here and there.

With Pep, Spurs won't be trophiless
That's the point - such things are not possible with NT football...at least for now.

Like you have just confirmed, they would have to introduce player transfers for NT football, if Pep is to be guaranteed success grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 12:55pm On Jun 18, 2024
Jodera:
In NT all you just need as a coach good is blend of quality players, and guts and you're good to go (at least you need to be averagely good). If you're a great coach, even better.

All those ones na mostly average coaches (Dem Roy Hodgson dem)
The French team that failed Miserably at the 2002 WC was coached by the same manager that led them to victory at the 2000 Euros - NT football na your mate? grin

Capello who also failed with England that had prime Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Scholes etc was an Average coach?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 12:40pm On Jun 18, 2024
Jodera:
Barca.

I know it'll sound ridiculous because of how good Barca was then but prior before he took over Barca, they were down. Almost didn't make the UCL while finishing 4th.

Disbanded most of the top tier players while bringing in Dem busquet, pique and co. Xavi and Iniesta were given prominent roles. With that kinda personnel he churned out those results for years(not just one season), then no how he won't do something at Spurs.
It doesn't sound ridiculous - it is ridiculous comparing Barcelona of 2006 -2009 to Totten-fucking-ham grin

Haba

All in a bid to hype pep o grin

Na these kind things dey make some people to reply with statements that would make it seem Pep is a nobody cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 12:22pm On Jun 18, 2024
Jodera:
I can't vouch that he'll win league but if pep handles Spurs, they'll be league contenders
Is there any historical evidence to support this?

give one example...just one
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 12:12pm On Jun 18, 2024
Jodera:
I believe we're almost saying the same thing cos we both agree it's less appealing and boring compared to club football.....

....but the mistake you're making is you think Pep would stress himself to instill pattern as if he's coaching a club side. I beg to differ cos most national coaches don't instill pattern. All they just need is for a country to have good players who can easily assimilate tactics (due to no time), then set the template and you're good to go. That's why most countries that have golden generation (especially if the set is concentrated on a particular country) will go far even with average coach. Eg Germany golden generation (with Bayern and Dortmund), Spain golden generation (with Barca and Madrid) and presently England Golden generation (reaching finals even with scrap Southgate).

E come be oga pata pata Pep wey Sabi template?
Make him just hold Spain, this German squad or England squad first, you go know how far grin grin grin
That is why I said Pep should handle a NT and we would know how far

Like I stressed earlier, NT job is a completely different kettle of fish and you yourself don agree....

In one breath, you say he doesn't need to implement a pattern. In another breath, you are talking about players assimilating tactics

Which is which?


No be here all of us dey when the Almighty French team (defending champions) with them Henry, Djibril Cisse Trezeguet etc, failed to score a goal at the 2002 WC and finished bottom of a group that had senegal and Denmark?

Who could have thought that the English team with prime scholes, Lampard, Gerard Rooney etc would fail so miserably?

Wetin almighty Italy achieve for France 98 and even Korea Japan 2002?

Are we saying all these teams didn't have players that could assimilate tactics?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 11:44am On Jun 18, 2024
Amigoss:
Like he will coach Nigeria to win the worldcup?
Leave them o

Like say NT job na anyhow job

E fit win with super eagles sha, if them implement transfer policy for NT football and hand him £200bn to overhaul the team grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla:
Jodera:
Only coaches who believe they still have something to offer for a club side will be apprehensive of a NT job.

The way MLS and Saudi is to Europe players is the way NT job is to coaches. Most average coaches (or past their prime coach) are the ones that will acknowledge NT jobs. Nothing special there to be honest
On the contrary, they somewhat "avoid" NT jobs till their later years because it isn't necessarily "representative" of their capabilities.... the "boring" nature also makes it less appealing

NT tournament football wey be say one loss and two draws and boom - you are out of the group stages of a major competition and would probably have to wait for another 2 or 4 years....during which the manager has already been tagged a failure

Most times, the managers wouldn't even have enough time to instill their desired style of play - shey na the once in 6 months training sessions person like pep go say e wan use implement tiki taka?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 10:30am On Jun 18, 2024
drisham:
Una don start

Pep will easily coach any NT to glory
Lol

As if NT and club coaching na same thing

He even say "any" lmao

Continue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 10:24am On Jun 18, 2024
Jodera:
Una don start again.

Una no dey taya cheesy cheesy cheesy
Start what oga?

Isn't it open knowledge that Coaches are generally apprehensive of NT jobs?

This isn't a pep thing - no be everything be agenda bros
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:36am On Jun 18, 2024
drisham:
See how city players just dey GBA without pep system

From gvardiol to doku

We will have a conversation one day
Baba, That's why Tournament football (NT) get as e be

Let Pep coach a NT first and we go see what happens
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 9:25pm On Jun 17, 2024
hensben:
Dembele is just anpther lucky footballer, flash in the pam type of player, his decision making are not always good.
Pam ko, Pamela ni
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Jamiuokolla: 1:24pm On Jun 17, 2024
grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 8:20pm On Jun 16, 2024
BlueAngel444:
The English Zidane does it, one step towards balon D'or for Bellingham has he gives England the lead and Saka an assist with a wonderful header
Una wan die this boy's career before e even start properly

Nawa
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 9:24pm On Jun 15, 2024
andrewbaba44:
Besides Messi wasn’t starting for Barca at 16

And if we check am nobody even talk so

Your body don pepper you sote you begin cap rubbish

Better go warm eba chop
Alaye shut up jare

Y'all have said worse things on that thread.

Tueh!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:26pm On Jun 15, 2024
hensben:
You dey craze. Dey talk well cos i nor too get joy for this thread this days.
Fûck off, you shallow-minded retárd.

All your sense dey inside that your big belle

Everything must be about Ronaldo and Messi in that your head wey saw dust full inside.

You are just unfortunate!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:07pm On Jun 15, 2024
hensben:
O gun kee you and your m u m u agenda. Na you I wan Dey follow do redeem. I can smell your hypocrisy from two planet. Yeye.
Hensbrain, you are a hopeless móron, I repeat.

FYI, I actually rate Messi over Ronaldo but that isn't even the crux of the matter here.

At this your old age, e don certain say you no fit get sense again for this pathetic life of yours
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jamiuokolla: 7:01pm On Jun 15, 2024
hensben:
All this man u and ronaldo fan are shameless. Simce messi win wc every other tournament don turn rubbish except ucl forgetting that in country football you don't need to sign quality players across board to win like madrid and man u under ferguson. Despicable characters will not be allowed to rubbish this sport just because one person and his fan think the sport revolve around him. Messi won it all from under 20 wc to senior wc and he was best player while at it unlike a certain player that was carried to win euro 2016.
Hensben, e no go better for the person wey afflict you with this level of fooolishness!

How did my post correlate with the móronic arguments you keep on having w.r.t Messi and Ronaldo?

You keep getting chances to redeem yourself but Instead, you plunge deeper into the depths of îdiocy and ridicule.

Brainless twát!!

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