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Ferisidowu:Thank you for the mention bro... Now lemme answer the questions... 1) Yes the Gospel was in the old testament but it was veiled or kinda hidden, e.g When God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, it was symbolizing how Christ will become our sacrificial lamb. Even sef, the Gospel was planned from the foundation of the world by our Heavenly Father together with Christ and the Holy Spirit. They saw from the beginning that man will fell. But they hid the Gospel until it was time to unveil it. That was the wisdom of Our Father!! 2) Yes people were saved in the old testament but they did not have eternal security like the Church ( Grace Period). Their works was needed too because they were under the Law and Christ has not died for their sins yet. Am talking about the Jews cos i don't really know about Gentiles in the old testament. 3) I think its both Law and Faith combined. Christ have not come and died for the sins of the world, remember? |
Ferisidowu:Lol thanks bro... Don't mind the guy, he is fake. |
The Difference Between Works of the Law and Works of Faith A Bible Study By Olamide Obire Believers, good works are the evidence of our salvation and not the condition. The condition for our salvation is to believe in Jesus; It's in John 3:16 "...that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." and Acts 16:3- "They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” Wow. Just noticed the numbers 3:16 and 16:3 in verses that are both telling us the condition for salvation Also see Romans 3: 26"...and He makes sinners right in His sight when they believe in Jesus. 27 Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law." Believing Jesus is to believe that God has made you righteous forever, not because you obeyed the law but because of Christ's obedience, "For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous." Romans 5:19. Saved by grace through faith and made righteous by Christ's obedience and not ours from trying to obey the law which no one can be made righteous by (Romans 3:20,) we get to live in triumph over sin and death: "For the sin of this one man, Adam, caused death to rule over many. But even greater is God’s wonderful grace and His gift of righteousness, for all who receive it will live in triumph over sin and death through this one Man, Jesus Christ." Romans 5:17. No longer trying to obey the law to make us right with God because Christ is our righteousness, we GET TO do faith works: Romans 7:4- "So, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the point: You died to the power of the law when you died with Christ. And now you are united with the One who was raised from the dead. As a result, we can produce a harvest of good deeds for God." With Christ as our righteousness and no longer under the power of the law (trying to obey the law in order to be righteous, we GET TO "produce a harvest of good deeds for God." See how this ties in with James 2:17- "So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless." aka "Faith without works is dead." Works (good deeds) always follow after faith in Christ; never works of the law (done in order to get right with God) but works of faith done by Christ in and through all who believe that He set us right with God by His obedience. Only when we have Christ as our righteousness, no longer trying to do works of the law in order to be righteous, can we "produce a harvest of good deeds for God." On the flip side, remember Romans 5:19- "For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous." Many profess Christ but don't have Him as their righteousness. Such who try to obey the law in order to be righteous before God and thus deserve His blessings have the old (sin) nature that is as a result of Adam's disobedience. Such do works (of the law) in order to be righteous and thus reject Christ's righteousness. According to Romans 7:5, the law that they try to obey causes them to sin more- "When we were controlled by our old nature, sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced a harvest of sinful deeds, resulting in death." Believers, faith without works is dead. But what works are you doing? Are they works of the law that are done by human effort to get right with God and which lead to death or works of faith done through the power of Christ in believers? The law is not of faith. You know the difference between works of law and works of the faith because you are unable to take credit for or boast about faith works. Christ does it all. See Ephesians 2:8-9: "God saved you by His grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it." Be wary of "men of God" who boast about how their law-keeping, various fasts, good works, dowdy clothes and religious tithe payment are what make God bless them/heaven-bound. These ones take credit and boast in their own effort (ability to obey the law) and not in Christ. This is not grace (undeserved, unmerited, unearned favour.) There is no Jesus saving in their equation. They are their own saviour. Believers, let's not be found here. James 2:17 says "So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless." The law is not of faith. When you go to Christ in faith aka empty of all "menstrual rag" works of the law and good deeds done to get God's favour and looking to Him alone for salvation from whatever bugs you, He constantly fills you up to overflowing with the abundance of grace and His gift of righteousness so much that with what is constantly spilling over, you can't help but live right and "produce a harvest of good deeds for God." These are works of faith. Christ does it all. http://rightbelieving101..com.ng/2018/01/faith-without-works-is-dead-difference.html?m=1 |
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bloodofthelamb:Exactly.... Amen.. |
Before his conversion, Saul was very zealous for God, upholding the Law and ensuring that anyone who believed that Jesus Christ has fulfilled the righteous requirements of the Law in all who believe landed in jail. Like his fellow Pharisees, his righteousness depended on his ability to keep the Law. His life and his ministry was all about "Thou shall not" and "Thou shall"... or else judgment, as it is with many who profess to believe in our Saviour Jesus today! Believers, don't be deceived! If you think that it is your various fasts, trips to some mountain, church donations and vigils and almost-strict observance of the Ten Commandments that makes God pleased with you or bless you, you are worse off than pre-conversion Paul and his fellow Pharisees whom Christ referred to as a "brood of vipers." What such people get in return for their self-righteousness is being cut off from Christ, according to Galatians 5:4 "For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace." Believers, we are not under Law but under Grace. These two cannot mix. You cannot have one leg on Mount Sinai and the other on Mount Zion. You cannot be trying to get right with God by keeping the Law and expect to be saved by Grace. To get to the Ten Commandments and the other items of man's rebellion against God inside the Ark of the Covenant, the Mercy Seat (Christ) has to be removed. Remember Revelation 3:15-16, Our Lord Jesus Christ says: "I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. 16 I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth." Don't let anyone misinterpret these verses for you, deceiving you into thinking that being "hot" is keeping the Law and being made right with God by doing its works. Romans 3:20 says no one can and this is how to get cut off from Christ. This would also mean that being "cold" is living a hedonistic life style without regard for anything or anyone. Why would Christ wish for any to live a hedonistic lifestyle? Our Lord said "I wish you were either one or the other!" CHRIST WOULD RATHER WE WERE HOT OR COLD, totally under grace where we get to live right and reign in life or totally under the Law in its pristine condition where we have to cut off limbs that cause us to sin and where breaking one law is equal to breaking all according to James 2:10. This way, people will realise the futility of trying to attain righteousness by keeping the law and be driven to His grace and thus, overcome the world! Pre-conversion Paul and the Pharisees had it better than these beloved of God who measure their righteousness by their efforts at keeping the Law which they have watered down to a level where it is keepable (the "not cold" but still call on the name of Jesus without seeing Him as Saviour to the uttermost, a "you can't even get out of bed or breathe without Him" Saviour (the "not hot." Why did they have it better? When pre-conversion Saul and his fellow Pharisees sinned or got defiled, they had their various washings, ceremonies and blood sacrifices supervised by God-chosen Levite priests to make atonement for their sins. But what do you have, beloved of God that has been cut off from Christ and who is neither hot nor cold; neither under Law nor under Grace? Only the full wrath of the Law!The only place where Christ features in the lives of such believers is the "in Jesus name" that ends each prayer point. Their salvation from the oppression of the enemy lies in their ability to keep the Ten Commandments, their recital of various Psalms in their bath water/after their fasts and their righteous deeds done to curry favour with God; righteous deeds that Isaiah describes as "menstrual rags." These are the good things we do that we think will make God happy with us or bless us! Menstrual rags! As the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, our Heavenly Father is pleased with us, because of what Christ has done. He sees us as righteous apart from our works. Nothing to do with our efforts at keeping the Law. All to do with Christ taking our place on the cross. In Christ, we don't have to try to do His will, we get to, and we love and desire to do it too, "For it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. " Philippians 2:13. Romans 8:32 says "He who did not spare His own Son but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?" All things, including the grace to go and sin no more! If you are fasting, sowing seed and keeping the Law in order to be righteous or receive from God(which no man can do,) what is there for Christ to do? This is like telling the One who holds your prison keys and wants to set you free to hold on while you try to cut the solid iron bars with your own teeth. You don't need a Saviour if you can do things to get out of your troubles. And Christ is not in the business of using His key to set you free with you gnawing on the iron bars of your prison. We are saved by grace through faith. If your freedom from sin, sickness, poverty, whatever, has anything to do with your own works, it is no longer grace. There is no Christ here. Romans 11:6 - "And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work." None of the people that Christ healed, fed or delivered from demonic oppression had to first keep the Law or do anything in order to receive from Him. Rather, many believed because they heard and/or received from Him. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. His gifts are freely given to all who believe and can never be earned or deserved. This is Grace - God's undeserved, unmerited favour! Believers, when you "receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness" you will "reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ." See Romans 5:17. Paul saw God's Grace and Grace changed his life forever. He did exploits by God's Grace, as you will when you, by His Grace, forsake your own righteousnesses from works of the law and receive His abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness in Christ. You will produce a harvest of good deeds for God (Romans 7:4.) It's no coincidence that the one that our Saviour Jesus sent to lay hands on Paul after he lost his sight and who was also the first person that Paul saw after "something like scales fell from his eyes" was called Ananais (Hananiah in Hebrew). Ananais means Grace! Believe Right and you will Live Right. http://rightbelieving101..com.ng/2017/02/neither-hot-nor-cold.html?m=1 |
bloodofthelamb:Exactly!! |
bloodofthelamb:Yeah bro.. |
HardMirror:What you have to understand is that not everyone you see in church is really a Christian. Christianity is not really about attending church ( though its part of it) but its mainly about your belief in Christ Jesus as your saviour. From what Freeze has been saying so far, its obvious he doesn't have Christ in his life. He preaches on Cool Fm on Sundays but he's more of a motivational speaker than a teacher of the word. Christianity without Christ is not Christianity at all. So Freeze might have had a mental assent to Christ but from what he is writing lately, he's not a possessor of eternal life ( what i meant by this is that he doesn't have Christ in his life). He can be an atheist or a Gnostic if he wants, I don't have a problem with that. I mean, it's a free world but the end will justify the means... Just like you Hardmirror, you were never a possessor of eternal life but only a professor if that your story was true anyways. You know Christ but doesn't believe in him just like Freeze is doing right now. And if Freeze still stay in church at the end of the age, his types will be weeded out of the kingdom. But for now, he is free to run his mouth. |
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Meajor:Very good piece OP.... Reading the title, i was like *who be dis one? * What you wrote is the truth. |
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OLAADEGBU:Hallelujah! |
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Believers, see Romans 5:20: "The law was given so that sin would increase. But where sin increased, God’s grace increased even more." Paul preached the gospel as it is written above and the religious people of his time falsely accused him of preaching that it is okay to sin because of grace. See this in Romans 3:8- "Some people are actually trying to put such words in our mouths, claiming that we go around saying, “The more evil we do, the more good God does, so let’s just do it!” That’s pure slander, as I’m sure you’ll agree." But how is it that "where sin increased, God’s grace increased even more?" What does this mean? We see how God's grace increased even more in the life of Peter. He boasted that he would not deny Christ, rose to Jesus' defence in Gethsemane and even cut off someone's ear, ready to fight for Christ! But in the end, he denied Christ...three times!... with swearing and cursing...and the first time upon being accused by a servant girl. The arm of flesh will fail. Imagine Peter remembering Christ's words in Matt. 10:33- "but whoever denies Me before men, I also will deny before My Father who is in heaven." How fallen and lost he must have felt. But check out what happened on resurrection morning in Mark 17- the women who were going to anoint Jesus' body were shocked to see an angel in the tomb, 6 "but the angel said, “Don’t be alarmed. You are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He isn’t here! He is risen from the dead! Look, this is where they laid His body. 7 Now go and tell His disciples, including Peter, that Jesus is going ahead of you to Galilee. You will see Him there, just as He told you before He died.” See "go and tell His disciples, including Peter..." Why the special mention of Peter's name and not that of any other disciple? It is because "But where sin increased, God’s grace increased even more." All of the disciples fled and went into hiding, but the one who many of us see as having "failed the most" among them got a special mention. Did you know that Peter, the one who denied Christ three times, was also the first of all of the remaining disciples to see the resurrected Jesus Christ? We see this in Luke 24:34 and 1 Corinthians 15:5. Super-abounding Grace. Then came the Day of Pentecost– Peter who had been so scared of being associated with our Saviour after His arrest, who lied upon being accused by a simple servant girl and then two more times, the one who many of us see as "failed the most" among the disciples, preached a sermon (in public!) that got 3,000 people saved. No fear of the teachers of religious law and Pharisees who were still out to get Jesus' followers. Through the power of Christ in him, the dead were raised to life and the sick were healed! Today, Peter who denied Jesus three times is regarded as a pillar of the early church! This is the effect of super-abounding Grace. It swallows up sin and transforms us from Simon (meaning Reed, easily swayed by the elements) to Peter (meaning Rock- bold and unshakable in Christ.) Truly, "...But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more," Not just one batch of grace; it continues forever: "From His fullness we have all received, grace in place of grace," John 1:16. Believers, believe right. "Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound...." The Ten Commandments that many are struggling to obey in order to get into God's good graces is designed to make the offence (sin) abound. Sin multiplies when one tries to get right with God by obeying the Ten Commandments. We see this again in Romans 7:14- "For sin shall not have dominion over you for you are not under law but under grace." But many who profess Christ have this backwards. Believers, only the sinless blood of the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ can make us righteous in God's sight. Depend on your own obedience to the law to get right with God and sin will increase. Rely on the obedience of Jesus Christ (Grace personified) to make you righteous (Romans 5:19) and you will not continue to live in sin. See Romans 5:17- "For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)" Receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness and you will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ, including reign over sin. http://rightbelieving101..com.ng/2018/01/but-where-sin-abounded-grace-abounded.html?m=1 |
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but still call on the name of Jesus without seeing Him as Saviour to the uttermost, a "you can't even get out of bed or breathe without Him" Saviour (the "not hot."
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