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Check out my newest topic, it's the Job article.

The Book of Job is one of the most amazing stories in the Bible, but we read it wrong two ways. First, we elevate Job into some kind of faith hero. Second, we think the devil is a sheepdog sent by the Lord to do his dirty work. This crazy notion is based on the following passage:

Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.” “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.” The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.” Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord. (Job 1:8-12)

The traditional interpretation is that the Lord set Job up for disaster by dangling him in front of the devil like a marshal might dangle a convict’s shirt in front of a bloodhound.

“You smell Job, boy? You smell his good works and how much he hates evil?”

“Grrrr. Grrrr.”

“Get him, boy! Go! Rip his life apart!”

What a terrible portrayal of our heavenly Father!

According to the traditional view there is no difference between God and Satan. The devil did the deed, but God was a collaborator. God permitted it. He “allowed” it to happen.

Thankfully, this is one of those times where something is lost in translation. Let’s read those verses again in a word-for-word translation such as Green’s Literal Translation of the Holy Bible (LITV):

And Jehovah said to Satan, Have you set your heart on My servant Job because there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and upright man, fearing God and turning away from evil? (Job 1:8, LITV)

In other words, “Satan, why are you gunning for Job? Is it because he’s a good guy? Is it because he won’t fall for your evil schemes?”

Do you see? God isn’t setting Job up at all. He’s letting Satan know that he’s onto him. “I’m watching you, Satan.” The Lord is not unaware of the devil’s schemes.

The fact is, Satan was gunning for Job. Not only did Satan want to hurt Job, he wanted the Lord to do it! Look at what Satan says:

Stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face. (Job 1:11)

The audacity of this schemer! How brazen! First the accuser tries to manipulate God: “Job only fears you because you’ve put a hedge about him and blessed him” (verses 9-10). Then he dares the Lord to strike this good man Job! Of course, the Lord isn’t about to fall for Satan’s tricks, yet verse 12 seems to suggest he does.

The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power…” (Job 1:12)

At first glance it seems that God has just been conned by the devil into giving him permission to go after Job. Really? And we fall for that? Or worse, we think the Lord would fall for it?! Let’s read that verse in a literal translation:

And Jehovah said to Satan, Behold, all that is his is in your hand! Only, do not lay your hand on him. And Satan went out from the face of Jehovah. (Job 1:12, LITV)

The Lord is not giving Satan permission; he’s stating a fact. Job was already under Satan’s thumb. Why does the Lord say that? Because of this:

We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. (1 John 5:19)

As Tom Tompkins explains in his book, Understanding the Book of Job, God gave control of the earth to man…

The highest heavens belong to the Lord, but the earth he has given to mankind. (Psa 115:16)

…but in the Garden of Eden man handed control to Satan. So when the Lord says “all that is his is in your hand!” he is stating a painful fact that will ultimately cost Jesus his life.

To sum up, here are four lies that we get from misreading Job 1:

Lie #1: Satan needs God’s permission to attack us

Satan didn’t ask for permission to go after Job because he didn’t need permission. In the Garden of Eden we opened the door to sin and have been reaping the consequences ever since.

The good news is it doesn’t have to be this way. By the grace of God the devil flees when we resist him (James 4:7). Don’t be like Job and let the thief plunder your house. Be like David who encouraged himself in the Lord and fought back (1 Sam 30:6).

Lie #2: God uses Satan as a sheepdog to keep the sheep in line

Woof! What nonsense. What fellowship does light have with darkness (2 Cor 6:14)?

Lie #3: God gives us sickness and suffering to teach us character

Satan’s aim was to trick God into harming Job, something that God would never do. Although Job thought God was responsible for his loss, God sent Elihu to set him straight. Elihu is a picture of Jesus who went around “healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him” (Acts 10:38). Jesus doesn’t give sickness; he takes it from us.

Lie #4: God “allows” sickness and suffering to afflict us

God does not work for the devil. If God gave the thief permission to rob you, he wouldn’t be a thief.

First Adam lost control of the planet, but last Adam took back what the devil stole. In Christ you are destined to reign like a king (Rom 5:17). But you won’t reign if you heed the lies above and follow Job instead of Jesus.

Grace and peace to you.


https://escapetoreality.org/2015/10/28/is-satan-gods-sheepdog/

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Martinez19:
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BELOVE! LET'S CONFRONT THEM WITH LOVE..LET'S OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD.. LET'S DETHRONE LIES WITH TRUTH.. FOR VICTORY BELONGS TO JESUS..AMEN..AMEN

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bloodofthelamb:
BELOVE! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK FOR THE LORD JESUS IS YOUR MIGHT AND STRENGTH..AMEN..AMEN

Amen... Thank you my brother.

Good evening........

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Janeyinspires:
Yeah Yeah.Keep the good news coming.Folks should know God's true nature.How loving,good,merciful and compassionate He is.How He is not out to afflict or get them.But to save them.Not the distorted picture "law preachers" has ingrained into folks.


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2 days ago,I told some folks that God doesn't afflcit His children with sickness to teach them humility or character.One of them pointed out the story of Job and how God masterminded His loss.I knew that was the interpretation given to the story by Pastor Cain n co.
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Another came up with a ridiculous anaylsis,that,the only way God can make man obey Him is to punish man.That,naturally,man is disobedient...mehn,I was totally weak to my bones.Just look at what religious and law preachers has reduced God to.They are always looking at the old convenant and law.None wants to look at Jesus,what He accomplished on the cross......well,thank God that the "Grace Revolution" has already moved.People will soon embrace unadulterated grace.No more mixture.

Exactly dear... That's why am pushing the GRACE REVOLUTION here with the help of Christ.... So many Christians are living in bondage. But thank God that sooo many have also seen the light.

I will treat the story of Job here tomorrow... Keep a date...

Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. (Luke 22:31)

Here are three conclusions people draw from these words of Jesus:

Satan needs permission to attack us

God gives Satan permission to attack us

God and Satan are colleagues in the business of attacking you, hallelujah!

To think that God and the devil are in cahoots is ridiculous. Believe this and you’ll believe that God is behind your illness or was complicit in the death of your child. Lose your job and you might say “God gives and takes away.” Phooey! With a God like that, who needs a devil?

So what is Jesus really saying?

Does the devil need permission?

This has nothing to do with permission. Satan is a thief. If the thief had permission he wouldn’t be a thief. Jesus is talking about Satan’s agenda. “Satan desires you in the way that sin desired Cain” (see Gen 4:7).

In other words, “Wise up. There’s a war going on. On one side is your heavenly Father who loves you; on the other is Satan who hates you.”

Now this is a very uneven war. Satan doesn’t stand a chance. In fact, he’s already been defeated and disarmed (Col 2:15). Thus the only way the enemy can win is through deceit, by getting you to believe lies about your Father and turning you against him.

If you believe a good God does evil, Satan wins. If you believe God is making you sick, perhaps to teach you character, Satan laughs. If you don’t resist the devil, because you think God has ordained whatever he is doing against you, the devil will not flee.

“Ah, but God allows the devil to do his work because it suits the Lord’s purposes.”

Which is bit like saying you allow your children to suffer. “I allowed my kid to get hit by that truck so I could show them my love.”

No, no, and a thousand times no! God is never the author of evil.

It’s very important that we don’t confuse God with the devil. God is good; Satan is not. God’s will for your life is not Satan’s will for your life. What Satan wants is not what God wants.

“But what happened to Peter is the same thing that happened to Job in the Old Testament.”

Sure, as long as you understand that God didn’t give Satan permission to afflict Job either. Satan is not God’s sheepdog.

What about sifting?

To sift like wheat means to separate. Satan wants to separate you from Jesus. He wants you to make you run from the Lover of your soul. Look at how Christ’s words appear in other translations:

Simon, stay on your toes. Satan has tried his best to separate all of you from me, like chaff from wheat. (Luke 22:31, MSG)

And this is exactly what Peter and the disciples did: They ran! They abandoned the Lord.

Then all the disciples deserted him and fled. (Matt 26:56)

What Satan desired came to pass. Like sifted chaff, the disciples separated themselves from Jesus. It was a victory for Satan – or so it seemed.

But wait…

What Satan meant for evil, God turned around for good. This is what God does – he redeems our failures and turns defeat into victory so that we might experience his unconditional love and grace (Rom 8:28).

This is the essence of what Jesus says to Simon Peter in Luke 22:31-32.

Peter, tough times are coming. I’m heading to the cross, and you guys are going to run like chickens. It will seem like the devil is getting his way. I’m telling you this in advance so that you won’t be discouraged.

Peter, you think you’re so strong with your boasts, but you’re not. You’re going to fail, and you need to know that I’m okay with failure. Indeed, my grace is greater than your failures. I’m praying for you, Pete. I’m in your corner. I will not abandon you even though you abandon me.

And after you’ve come through this, remember what I said and encourage your brothers. Maybe write an epistle telling people about the testing of your faith. Just a thought.

Don’t fall for the devil’s lies and don’t be ignorant of his schemes. He cannot win except by getting you to rely on your flesh and agree with his lies. Satan desires to sift you and separate you, so stand firm in the Lord and let nothing move you.

Tough times will come, and your strength will fail. But be of good cheer, for Jesus is cheering you on. You may have deserted the Lord but he will never desert you. No one can snatch you from his hand. Nothing can separate you from his love.

From time to time, you will fail and fall and it will seem as though the devil has won. But what he means for evil, the Lord can turn around for good. No matter how big your mess, God’s grace is greater than your worst.



https://escapetoreality.org/2017/04/20/satan-desires-to-sift-you-luke-2231/

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petra1:
The amazing thing is that Other view of rapture all have Strong bible evidence . I've always hold the pre tribulation rapture view . Until I came across a book titled "Another view of the rapture"

Pre Trib is the only correct view. Matthew 24 is talking about the Nation of Israel not the church. When Jesus was making that statement, the church have not being born. Learn to divide the word of truth. The saints in the tribulation are the Jews and the Nations of the world that received Christ after the rapture.

The tribulation period will be a very terrible period, so why would only one generation of the church meant to suffer that wrath while the older generation will be in Heaven? Apostle Paul also said that Christ will deliver us from the wrath to come.