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I said it on my thread on Orlu yesterday that you OP are up to no good.
https://www.nairaland.com/6352206/re-only-city-12-l.g.a

I noted your silly and biased posts yesterday and now just confirmed it. Go get a life and let Imolites decide what is best for them. Ofeke

Emlproperties:
You are right about Orlu expanding into Nkume. I think it was deliberate by Udenwa. The plan is to was to make Orlu township extend towards Ideato/Akokwa to the north, linking Mbano/Okigwe to the west and connecting Orodo/Owerri to the south. But that plan was delayed by successive Governors. Although Ohakim and Rochas did some dualization of major roads, there was still this non-chalant attitude about their intentions. Let's see what Uzodinma has in stock.

Udenwa truely was the catalyst to this strategic expansion. Rochas an Orlu son drew it back with nothing to show via new viable projects or consolidation of Udenwa efforts. Even the roads leading to his hometown is in a mess from mgbee to ogboko. Its really a shame. Hope Uzodinma may concentrate development on the Oru LGAs axis which for me is still a win win for all Orlu people. Time will tell sha.

Emlproperties:
Exactly over 100. Imo state is one is the highly urbanized state per km in Nigeria as a whole. And Imo west (Orlu zone) is part of that development. You’ll hardly find villages in Orlu zone nay Imo state. Virtually every community is a town by right.

That's why when I see some people posting pictures of only Orlu urban I laugh. Places like Oguta, Umuaka, Nkwerre, Akokwa, Mgbidi can rival Orlu town.

100%. You know Orlu very well. Good thing is that the Orlu township is fast expanding to Nkume in Njaba LGA. Once Rochas university kicks off fully, u will also see an expansion from Mgbee towards Ogboko and down to Ntueke , Osina and Urualla.

Beremx:
Mbaise people are big enough to have their own identity. They don’t need to hide under the Owerri identity

He was just being biased and couldn't hide it.

Emlproperties:
That Acholonu family have produced men and women of timber and calibre. My Auntys husband who was former Imsu registrar is from there.

True talk. Their grandfather was a great man who ran things with the British colonial masters. They still enjoy the benefits of his exploits.

Emlproperties:
The major towns/cities that comprises Orlu zone are thus:

1. Orlu
2. Akokwa
3. Umuaka
4. Oguta
5. Umundugba
6. Nkwerre
7. Amaigbo
8. Osina
9. Ekwe
10. Arondizuogu
11. Ohaji
12. Awo-Idemili
13. Ihioma
14. Mgbidi
15. Umuowa
16. Awo-Omamma
17. Nnenasa

and many more infact over 100 towns.

Dedetwo:
As for origin of "Orlu", I suggest you think of Oru. The Orlu is an Anglicized Oru as British spelt it.

Nope Dedetwo. There is a community from time immemorial called ORLU-GEDEGWUM also called Ishiobiukwu gedegwum They are bordered by Amaike, Umudioka Ukwu to the north, Mgbe and Ideato to the west, Umunna to the East and Amaifeke to the south.

This is the home of the popular Acholonu who was the first educated man in that axis and who the British installed as Igwe even when his village ,Eluama was not entitled to be the Igwe. (The headship of Orlu gedegwum was from the Umuokwara village but had no educated man as at then)

Orlu gedegwum never had any ORU connection and are of pure Isu stock and their dialect is same with that of other Isu communities around them like Amiake, Eziachi Umunna, Umuowa etc down to Nkwerre, Amaigbo and Isu proper(Nwangele and Isu LGA).

The popular Orlu Holy Trinity Catholic ArchDiocese cathedral is located here in Umuire village of Orlu gedegwum community. Longtime Bishop Shanahan College is also located there at Eluama village of Orlu gedegwum.

Dedetwo:
Also included in Isuama are Nkwerre, Isu, Nwangele and Onuimo.

Very Correct. But Onuimo unfortunately was zoned into Okigwe zone( Imo North) . The others are all in Orlu Zone( Imo west) and are indeed the purest Isuama stock who later spread to Orlu, Njaba, and parts of Ideato and Oru East LGAs and also parts of Mbaitoili LGA in Owerri zone

Dedetwo:
My sister Juice, the adjectival word in the bolded settled the issue. It was an attempt to localize politics hence Owerri, Orlu and Okigwe zones were birthed.

D2 my brother i hear you. But Orlu Zone is a bit unique. Even though we have the majority 12 LGAs and population spread in Imo state, We are mostly of ISU and ORU origin unlike other zones and till Jesus comes we recognize that fact and hardly bask in unnecessary divisions. Isu people are also present in Owerri zone in parts of Orodo, Ofekata etc and Okigwe zone in Abajah, Anara, etc. We still recognize them as Isu kiths even though they are delineated into other senatorial zones.

Enugupikin:
All these is because people feel their towns aren't popular and they need to be in a general well known town.
Same can't be said of Enugu where someone will tell you I'm from ụdị, Ngwo, Nsukka, Nkanu etc and not just owerri, orlu and okigwe whereas they're many towns in there.

Or Anambra which take pride in their town names, Nimo, Nibo, Nnobi, Enugwu Agidi, Awka Etiti, igbo ukwu, uli, Aguleri etc, towns here are even more popular than LGA

Or Ebonyi where someone will say I'm from Afikpo, ohaozara, Abakaliki, ohaukwu, ishielu etc

Or Abia where people are also proud of their towns like Abriba, ohafia, isuochi, Ngwá, umuahia, igbere, izu-Akoli etc

Imo people should take charge of their origin and stop simply hiding under owerri, okigwe and orlu zones

You are still misinformed. Read to understand. These various communities in Orlu zone fully pride themselves by their various communities names also . I am from Amaike and if you ask me where I am from, I will tell you I am from Amaike Orlu. Same with someone from Okporo, Amaifeke, Ihioma or the little known Orlu-gedegwum. In the past we where all under one administrative division called ORLU and we all still associate with that general tag side by side our community name. Another unifying factor is our common ISU and ORU origins which we still recognize even when delineated into various local governments.
In Owerri zone , an Mbaise man can never tell you he is an Owerri man neither will an Mbaino man tell you he is an Okigwe man even though their respective senatorial zones are Owerri and Okigwe. I can feel the bias in your comments against Imolites but please don't miseducate and influence others with them.

Beremx:
It is known as Orlu, Okigwe and Owerri zones right from time immemorial. You are right in your north, west and east anyway but the former is more known.

Thank you my dear.

Dedetwo:
It is a shame that Igbo son or daughter can commit such intellectual blunder in the public. A thing left for people with initial stage of free education. I repeat Orlu town or city does not have 12 or 11 LGAs as some goofy posters have maintained. When senatorial zone in Imo State was considered, it was based on Imo west, north and east. For Imo west, Nkwerre made a strong case to be selected as name representation of the zone instead of Orlu. However the deciding powers went for Orlu on various reasons. I learnt certain heads in Ohaji\Egbema LGAs have set off motion to disassociate from Orlu senatorial camp.

You are the one commiting the blunder of not reading to understand. What i wrote about here is about the Origin of the name Orlu and how Orlu LGA came to be named ORLU even when other names could have sufficed. Same with the Senatorial zone. Never did i say that Orlu city (which happens to be located in Orlu LGA and maybe parts of Orsu bordering Orlu LGA) has 12 LGAs.

Orlu , Owerri and Okigwe senatorial zones are the popular political delineation descriptions known to all sons and daughters of Imo state, both erudite and illiterate and even if the constitution replaces Orlu zone with Imo west, it changes nothing. We know those who make up Orlu Zone and thei respective historys and apart from Ohaji Egbema who are clamouring to opt out, others proudly bear, associate with and support the "ORLU" tag.

Cc otokx Enugupikin, SaiOba, rafindo, beremx

Nigercity:
Pictures of orlu
The city with 11 l.G.A

U ae still making same mistakes. Its 12 local government areas.

cc Nigercity, dedetwo

Due to the slight misinformation and comments on these thread,
https://www.nairaland.com/6351107/only-city-11-l.g.a-area, I would like to make some corrections and throw better historical perspectives on the origin of the name Orlu and why a host of communities in the present day Orlu senatorial zone identify themselves to be from Orlu.

History of the name Orlu.

When the British first arrived the area, they met a host of communities and in the quest for easy administration, they sought for an educated chief or head who could serve as link of communication between them and the locals. This was the era of warrant chiefs. They met one Acholonu from Eluama village in ORLU GEDEGWUM community who met this criteria and thus elevated him to the head of the area with so much powers. Popularly known as Igwe of Orlu( even though his domain covered only Orlu Gedegwum) till his death and father to the late supreme court justice, Pat Acholonu and former deputy governor of Imo state , Douglas Acholonu( husband to Catherine Acholonu,; Obasanjo former special adviser on arts and culture).

The British colonial masters also went ahead to name all the communities around Orlu- Gedegwum covering all communities as far as and in the present day 12 local government areas of Orlu senatorial zone as one ORLU administrative division. Thus the name Orlu was borrowed from the Orlu gedegwum community where Acholonu hailed from. That is why people from these areas and 12 local governments identify first as Orlu before their respective community names due to the fact that in the no distant past, all where under one administrative region called Orlu before the creation of local government areas and senatorial zones. So don’t be surprised to hear someone from, Njaba , Isu, Orsu, Nkwere etc tell you he is from Orlu first before telling you his actual community name.


As already stated above, same name was used in birthing the present day Orlu LGA which covers communities like Amaike, Eziachi,Orlu-Gedegwum, Umunna, Amaifeke, Okporo,Umutanze, Ihioma, Umuezike, Obor, Ihitte Owerri Owerriebirri, Umudioka, Umuowa, Mgbee, Ogberuru, Obinugwu, etc . The city parts of Orlu we all know is mostly found in some of these communities in Orlu LGA.

Also in the delineation of senatorial zones, the name Orlu was again used to cover all the communities and local government in consistence with the old British colonial definition of the area . The local governments in Orlu senatorial zone are:
Orlu
Orsu
Oru West
Oru East
Ideato North
Ideato South
Njaba
Nkwerre
Nwangele
Isu
Oguta
Ohaji Egbema.

In Orlu senatorial zone, there are two major dialects or people, the Isu speaking dialects and sub-dialects who can be found in Ideato, Orlu, Njaba, Nkwere, Isu, Nwangele and some parts of Oru East LGAs, and the Oru speaking communities found in Orlu, Orsu, Oru East/West and Oguta LGAs with some found in Ihiala LGA of Anambra state and some in Delta state.
Present also are minority dialects like the Anioma – Ukwani dialect in Oguta, the Aro in Ideato, the Egbema dialects in Ohaji Egbema local government who are also found in Rivers state


Orlu is one , Orlu gbu Eze…

jude79:
This is the exact true story of the ikwerre, but, why should we divulge the truth to them, what will we use to cure hbp, ontop say na the Tory wet their papa tell them, still remember the time when I dey primary school, Dem tell us say na zik hold the key of river niger, India beat Nigeria 99 vs 0, So much for elders tales.

lolz funny you

Both father and son; Akalaka even though they assimilated into the Benin way of life where they were resident on trade, never forgot home. Infact they were never accepted fully and when Akalaka was returning home, the bini culture never came back with him. This is why with all the uproar and promotion of the bini ikwerre connection, an unbiased observer would wonder how come there is no single trace of bini culture in the present day ikwerre way of life. Distance is not a factor here. Yoruba and Igbo slaves and their descendants in far away, US, Jamaica, Cuba Haiti and the carribean nations have somehow managed to retain even to tiny degrees their various cultures in these nations. Things like culture, language and customs don't easily get eroded completely like that.

Who was Akalaka father ? From what part of upland Igbo clan did he originate from and where did he migrate from to Bini to trade. Onitsha/Aboh /Nri/ Akwa axis most probably.
These are questions Ikwerre historians should be asking and researching on and quit this bini connection thing.

Truely Akalaka's father like many upland igbos migrated to Benin for trade with the benin people and portuguese. He was coopted into the royal family due to his enterprising bearings. His son Akalaka was fingered in an assassination attempt on the Oba of his time and what did he do after- he ran back to his ancestral roots for protection. He didn't run to yorubaland neither did he run south. He ran back eastwards to join his kiths his father left behind and the rest is history.

Note: Not all ikwerre trace their ancestry from Akalaka genealogy though it is the most prominent narrative currently. There were waves if migration from Aro, Ngwa, Owerri , Anioma, and even far away Awka. Ikwerre clans like Isiokpo, some Obio clans have a different origin and it is well documented.

Lalasticlala

Donald Trump getting things done where Obama failed.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Israel and Morocco agreed on Thursday to normalize relations in a deal brokered with the help of the United States, making Morocco the fourth Arab country to set aside hostilities with Israel in the past four months.

As part of the agreement, U.S. President Donald Trump agreed to recognize Morocco’s sovereignty over the Western Sahara, where there has been a decades-old territorial dispute with Morocco pitted against the Algeria-backed Polisario Front, a breakaway movement that seeks to establish an independent state in the territory.

Trump sealed the agreement in a phone call on Thursday with Morocco’s King Mohammed VI, the senior U.S. official said.

Morocco is the fourth country since August to strike a deal aimed at normalizing relations with Israel. The others were the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Sudan.

Under the agreement, Morocco will establish full diplomatic relations and resume official contacts with Israel, grant overflights and also direct flights to and from Israel for all Israelis.

“They are going reopen their liaison offices in Rabat and Tel Aviv immediately with the intention to open embassies. And they are going to promote economic cooperation between Israeli and Moroccan companies,” White House senior adviser Jared Kushner told Reuters.

“Today the administration has achieved another historic milestone. President Trump has brokered a peace agreement between Morocco and Israel – the fourth such agreement between Israel and an Arab/Muslim nation in four months.

“Through this historic step, Morocco is building on its longstanding bond with the Moroccan Jewish community living in Morocco and throughout the world, including in Israel. This is a significant step forward for the people of Israel and Morocco.

“It further enhances Israel’s security, while creating opportunities for Morocco and Israel to deepen their economic ties and improve the lives of their people.”

A White House statement on the phone call between Trump and the king of Morocco said Trump “reaffirmed his support for Morocco’s serious, credible, and realistic autonomy proposal as the only basis for a just and lasting solution to the dispute over the Western Sahara territory.”

“And as such the president recognized Moroccan sovereignty over the entire Western Sahara territory,” the statement said.

Palestinians have been critical of the normalization deals, saying Arab countries have set back the cause of peace by abandoning a longstanding demand that Israel give up land for a Palestinian state before it can receive recognition.

With Trump to leave office on Jan. 20, the Morocco deal could be among the last his team, led by Kushner and U.S. envoy Avi Berkowitz, is able to negotiate before they give way to President-elect Joe Biden’s incoming administration.

Much of the momentum behind the deal-making has been to present a united front against Iran and roll back its regional influence.

The Trump White House has tried to get Saudi Arabia to sign on to a normalization deal with Israel, believing if the Saudis agreed other Arab nations would follow, but the Saudis have signaled they are not ready.

One more Middle East breakthrough is possible. Last week Kushner and his team traveled to Saudi Arabia and Qatar seeking an end to a three-year rift between Doha and the Gulf Cooperation Council countries.

A tentative deal has been reached on this front but it was far from clear whether a final agreement to end a blockade of Qatar will be sealed. Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt have maintained a diplomatic, trade and travel embargo on Qatar since mid-2017.

While Biden is expected to move U.S. foreign policy away from Trump’s “America First” posture, he has indicated he will continue the pursuit of what Trump calls “the Abraham Accords” between Israel and Arab and Muslim nations.


https://www.reuters.com/article/israel-usa-morocco-idUSKBN28K2CN

Analysis of the case filed by Texas against four states.

Kobach: Texas Case Challenges Election Directly at Supreme Court
KRIS W. KOBACH7 Dec 20201,786

On Monday, just before midnight, the State of Texas filed a lawsuit that is far more important than all of the others surrounding the presidential election of November 3rd.

Texas brought a suit against four states that did something they cannot do: they violated the U.S. Constitution in their conduct of the presidential election. And this violation occurred regardless of the amount of election fraud that may have resulted. The four defendant states are Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.




Texas filed the suit directly in the Supreme Court. Article III of the Constitution lists a small number of categories of cases in which the Supreme Court has “original jurisdiction.” One of those categories concerns “Controversies between two or more states.” Texas’s suit is exactly that. The Supreme Court has opined in the past that it may decline to accept such cases, at its discretion. But it is incumbent upon the high court to take this case, especially when it presents a such a cut-and-dried question of constitutional law, and when it could indirectly decide who is sworn in as President on January 20, 2021.

The Texas suit is clear, and it presents a compelling case. The four offending states each violated the U.S. Constitution in two ways.

First, they violated the Electors Clause of Article II of the Constitution when executive or judicial officials in the states changed the rules of the election without going through the state legislatures. The Electors Clause requires that each State “shall appoint” its presidential electors “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.”


In the early years of the Republic, most state legislatures appointed their presidential electors directly, without holding a popular election for President. That would change during the early decades of the nineteenth century. But the constitutional principle remained the same. Regardless of whether a state appoints its electors by a vote in the legislature or by a vote of the people, it is the state legislature — and only the state legislature — that sets the rules.



Thus, when the Pennsylvania Supreme Court extended by three days the deadline for receiving mail-in ballots, contrary to the law passed by the state legislature, the state court changed the rules in violation of the Electors Clause. Similarly, when Georgia’s Secretary of State responded to a lawsuit by entering into a Compromise Settlement Agreement and Release (i.e. a consent decree) with the Democratic Party of Georgia, and modified the signature verification requirements spelled out by Georgia law, that changing of the rules violated the Electors Clause.

The second constitutional violation occurred when individual counties in each of the four states changed the way that they would receive, evaluate, or treat the ballots. Twenty years ago, in the landmark case of Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court held that it violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment when one Florida county treated ballots one way, and another Florida county treated ballots a different way. Voters had the constitutional right to have their ballots treated equally from county to county.

So when election officials in Wayne County, Michigan, ignored the requirements of Michigan law and denied poll watchers access to vote counting, while other counties in Michigan followed the law, that violated the Equal Protection Clause. Similarly, in Wisconsin, when the Administrator of the City of Milwaukee Elections Commission ignored the requirements of Wisconsin law and directed election workers to write in the addresses of witnesses on the envelopes containing mail-in ballots, while ballots without witness addresses were deemed invalid elsewhere, that resulted in the unequal treatment of ballots in the state.



Importantly, the Texas lawsuit presents a pure question of law. It is not dependent upon disputed facts. Although these unconstitutional changes to the election rules could have facilitated voter fraud, the State of Texas doesn’t need to prove a single case of fraud to win. It is enough that the four states violated the Constitution.

The lawsuit asks the Supreme Court to remand the appointment of electors in the four states back to the state legislatures. As the Supreme Court said in 1892 in the case of McPherson v. Blacker, “Whatever provisions may be made by statute, or by the state constitution, to choose electors by the people, there is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time…”.

If Texas prevails, the four state legislatures could follow any number of courses in appointing their presidential electors. They could assess the election results and try to exclude those ballots that were counted in violation of state law in order to determine a winner, or they could divide their Electoral College votes between the two candidates, or they could follow a different path. But they have to follow the Constitution in whatever they do.

In the rest of country, the states followed the constitutional rules in appointing presidential electors. The offending states cannot be allowed to violate those same rules. It’s not just a matter of constitutional law. It’s a matter of basic fairness.

seunmsg:
The will of God has been done through the election of Joe Biden as the 46th president of the United States. This particular case will also be tossed to the trash can just like the other 48 cases that Trump campaign had filed and lost.

God is not an author of confusion, he doesn’t support evil and bad losers. If God wants Trump to continue in office, he would have made majority of Americans to vote for him during the election and not use lies and falsehood to steal victory from the winner. Stop dragging God into the egoistic delusion of the orange racist that you self acclaimed evangelicals worship.

He lost all 48 cases at the Democrat leaning lower courts and not the supreme court. See the kind of hatred you have for your so called " racist Trump" yet over the years you support Buhari an acclaimed nepot and tribalist. That's the highest form of hypocrisy.

Jashub:
One question : why is the Lamestream media not covering all this?

It's a coordinated approach. Suppress all Trump positives news from getting out, and amplify the negative narratives.

Sultannayef:
Waste of resources

Don't be too sure, with the current Scotus , anything can happen.

The current Scotus headed by Roberts Court has become more conservative, now with six conservative justices that include Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and
Barrett (appointed by President Trump ). Dissenting in many key cases are Justices
Sotomayor and Kagan (appointed by President
Obama ), and Justice Breyer (appointed by Clinton) ( from Wikipedia)


Remove Roberts who swings most times , you still have a 5 to 4 conservative republican majority.

Jashub:
Interesting

very interesting.

Abfinest007:
nothing will come out of it there's nothing new under the sun

Never say never. What Texas needs is only a supreme court backing for state legislatures to select electors going to Washington on the 14th and all this states have a republican majority state legislatures. Very doable my dear. Democrats didn't see this coming.

CNN and other mainstream media has refused to carry this latest development.

Let the games begin.

Democrats were hoping to stall all Trump cases at the lower state courts from getting to the Scotus. Texas just delivered a sucker punch.. straight to SCOTUS!!! ,where Republicans judges are majority.

Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules

The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court shortly before midnight on Monday challenging the election procedures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on the grounds that they violate the Constitution.

Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above.


Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:


Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.

…

This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.

Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/texas-sues-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court-election-rules/

rossniti:
WHAT ABOUT THE TRILLIONS THE BRITISH STOLE FROM 1897 TO 1960?

WHY WAS NIGERIA STILL AN ''UNDERDEVELOPED COUNTRY'' WITH NO POWER STATIONS, UNIVERSITIES, OR EXPRESSWAYS, AND AN ILLITERACY RATE OF 95% IN 1960 AT INDEPENDENCE, AFTER 70 YEARS OF UN isINTERRUPTED BRITISH RULE?.


WHAT DID THE BRITISH DO WITH THE TRILLIONS THEY MADE FROM EXPORTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES?

WHO ARE THEY TO TALK ABOUT NIGERIAN CORRUPTION WHEN THEY ARE THE ORIGINAL THIEVES AND LOOTERS WHO HAVE STILL NOT RETURNED A PENNY THEY STOLE?

Just Negodu... So if the British stole from you, you now justify it by looting from your country's purse. Why can't we see that as a motivation to change things just like China and other Asian countries robbed by the same British did

Double post