₦airaland Forum

true2god:
Always following the footsteps of your illiterate prophet. Thank God you can't even see me in real life, you might even try to fight me (Qur'an 9:29).

Talktoyoulater:
He is not really a pastor,after all the bible said *not everybody that calls me Lord will enter the kingdom of God.

Heineken:
you dey even pray for them? You try o

CROWNWEALTH019:
Which dirty Union, if its Fayose and wike children you go begin cry

NaijaMutant:

true2god:
I find it shocking that I'm teaching Muslims their own religion. Some, in humility, will accept my lectures and move on while the arrogant ones will be going in circles, perhaps to protect their ego.

You said the burnt copies are duplicates, where do you get this information? You cannot just manufacture 'reasons' from the air, we need proofs, documented proofs. Read the hadith again, there is no any place where it was stated that the burnt copies were duplicates. What the hadith narrator told us is that there was a disagreement, among the Muslim umah, on the best ways to recite the Quran because many people were reciting different things. And in order to harmonize the recitations, a standard document need to be produced (now called the Quran).

There was no any Quran during the time of Mohammed. What we have was a fragmented pieces of documents (because the scribes Mohammed used were more than 30). Some where written on bones, camel skins, etc. It was these written materials that the hafeezs memorized. There is no any single hafeez, in the time of Mohammed, that memorized all the alleged revelations. Some will memorize one ayah , some two, etc.

When Uthman ordered that the Quran be compiled as a single book, most of the hafeez had died in the battle of yamama hence a whole lot of Qur'anic verses were lost with them. It was this lost in the battle of yamama that propelled Umar to suggest to Abu Bakr As-sadiq, the need to have the Quran codified as a single religious text. Both Abu Bakr and Umar had died before the current Qur'an was finally compiled.

There are verses that were meant to be in the Qur'an that Uthman either cancelled out or deliberately burnt. Kindly view sample of the verses below, all sources are from Islamic materials;

Sunnah ibn majjah hadith number 1944:

It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
“The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”

Sahih bukhari:
Volume 4, Book 52, Number 69 :
Narrated by Anas bin Malik
For thirty days Allah's Apostle invoked Allah to curse those who had killed the companions of Bir-Mauna; he invoked evil upon the tribes of Ral, Dhakwan, and Usaiya who disobeyed Allah and His Apostle. There was reveled about those who were killed at Bir-Mauna a Quranic Verse we used to recite, but it was cancelled later on. The Verse was: "Inform our people that we have met our Lord. He is pleased with us and He has made us pleased".

Sahih bukhari: Volume 3, Book 31, Number 169 :
Narrated by Tawus
Ibn 'Abbas said, "Allah's Apostle set out from Medina to Mecca and he fasted till he reached 'Usfan, where he asked for water and raised his hand to let the people see him, and then broke the fast, and did not fast after that till he reached Mecca, and that happened in Ramadan." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "Allah's Apostle (sometimes) fasted and (sometimes) did not fast during the journeys so whoever wished to fast could fast, and whoever wished not to fast, could do so."

Volume 3, Book 31, Number 170 :
Narrated by Nafi
Ibn 'Umar recited the verse: "They had a choice either to fast or to feed a poor person for every day, and said that the order of this Verse was cancelled.

Who canceled these verses, Uthman, Mohammed or allahh? If some verses were cancelled, how can we authenticate the Quran? Which other verses had been cancelled?

KahlDrogo:
Our diligent Abiama development compatriot, we see you!

Don't worry, we fellow flat headed Jewish Osus are on our way to rescue you from the zoo police. Give us two minutes to perfect our kung-fu maneuvers.

loveth360:
Go to any yellowbar muslim mosque,
there is no kind of arms you wont see there.


Is better i go to awusa muslim mosque than yellowbar own.

No wonder awusa muslim sees them as fake muslim.

HajimeSaito:
But a dog should not be greedy Take what your master offers you and shut up:

The Prophet said, "When any human being is born. Satan inserts two fingers into his anus, except Jesus, the son of Mary, whom Satan tried to touch but failed, for he touched the placenta-cover instead.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 506: Narrated Abu Huraira

WHAT THE FVCK IS WRONG WITH THIS IDIOT CALLED PROPHET SEX AWARD WINNER?

HajimeSaito:
Tired Bí tí bawo? When I have a never ending library of material and a faithful dog I am feeding on nairaland? I can never be tired o kabrud:

Al Hadis, Vol 1, p. 686, no. 74, Abdur Rahman-b-Hasannah reported, "the messenger of Allah came out to the toilet with a leather shield in his hand. He put it down, took his seat, and urinated against it. We said, 'Look, the Prophet urinates just like a woman...'

Did prophet Sex Award Winner have a feminine síde? Shey him be Bob Risky?

HajimeSaito:
Which is your favourite sport?

Al Hadis, Vol. 1, p. 216 :

Allah's Prophet said that all sports are evil but three: 1. Training a horse, 2. Shooting arrows, and 3. Mounting your wife.

"Mounting your wife!" Was your mother "mounted" by your father, kabrud?

true2god:
So you accept that some Qur'an were burnt by Uthman ibn Affan according to sahih bukhari. If that's the case, why must he burn some Qur'anic evidence copies? Would Mohammed had agreed to his burning of the words of a so-called allahh? Did allahh ask him to burn them?

The verse of stoning was not included in the Qur'an, according to sunnah ibn majjah hadith number 1944, don't you think it was among what Uthman burnt? Stoning of adulterers are the the hadith but missing in the Qur'an, why?

true2god:
I made more reference to bukhari's hadith because it is the most widely used hadith. I know we have sahih Muslim, sunnah Abu dawood, sunnah ibn majjah, al-tabari, etc. The major focus is the hadith of bukhari.

You said all what I listed are in the Qur'an. You are a liar sir. Can you show me where you are asked to pray 5 times a day in your Koran? Can you show me where you were asked to visit mecca for hajj in the Quran? Show me the ayah for ablution in the Quran? I'm waiting.

HajimeSaito:
Little things? Like the size of "prophet" Sex Award Winner's "thing?":

Al Hadis, Vol. 2, p. 692, Ibn Ma`sud reported from the Messenger of Allah who said, "A woman is like a private part (sex organ). When she goes out (walking) the devil casts a glance at her (in lust) . Attested by Tirmizi.

To the "prophet", a woman is a walking vagi-na! Kabrud, do you use such language on the women folk in your family? Afterall, as good muslim women they qualify as "walking vag-ginas" too, don't they?

true2god:
Don't blame them; most of them argue in ignorance. They are not even aware that the current Quran is a product of one of the khalifas who chosed the official version of the Qur'an he wanted and burnt the rest. They will never tell them these facts in the mosque but thank God we have them in their own hadith.

true2god:
I hav no time for your 101 magic number. My only concern is that allahh is so shortsighted as to recommending a book riddled with contradictions to Muslims. Why will allahh ask Mohammed to consult the Torah and the Injil for guidance and reconciliation with the alleged revelations the so-called jibril gave Mohammed? Is that that allahh was not aware of the alleged contradictions?

true2god:
Oh, the hadith has suddenly become irrelevant despite the fact that over 90% Islamic laws and practices are found in the hadith and not the Koran. Muslims are so smart at tossing the Koran in our face, meanwhile their major book is the hadith compiled by a man, who is not even an Arab, from Uzbekistan called Imam Bukhari.

Where do you get your shahada from? The hadith or the Quran?

Where do get the five pillars of Islam from? The hadith or the Quran?

Where do you get your 5 daily prayers from? The hadith or the Koran?

Where do you get the instruction to go for hajj? The hadith or the Qur'an?

How do you know how to perform ablution? From the hadith or the Qur'an?

How do you get the idea of stoning the devil at kabba? The hadith or the Koran?

The instruction for Muslim women to wear niqab? The hadith or the Qur'an?

The 30-day Ramadan fasting? The hadith or the Koran? And so many other Islamic practices, all in the hadith alone and never in the Koran.

The most important religious document in Islam is the hadith. The hadith and the sunnah is Muslim's guide and not the Quran. Since the hadith is so important in Islam, did allahh ask imam bukhari to compile the hadith for Muslims? Did Angel jibril also giv revelations to imam bukhari while he was compiling the hadith?

Bros, the hadith, just like the Qur'an, is also a bullshit which any sane African man should reject. They have no divine inspiration but the works of illiterate Arabs and medieval Persians.

true2god:
Yes, the Bible is the work of drunkard and yet allahh asked you to consult the people of the books (the Christians and Jews who use the Bible). Why will allahh ask muslims to consult a book written by drunkards?

allahh must be crazy!

HajimeSaito:
Only too happy to oblige Cursed be he who believes in the fake illiterate prophet:

Al Hadis, Vol 1, p. 688, No. 236, Abul Juhaim-b-Hares reported, "I saw the Prophet when he was urinating. I saluted him, but he did not return the salute... He struck it (his pe-nis) with a stick, rubbed his hands on the wall and then his face, and saluted me." Sharhi Sunnat.

Erm, what the fvck is wrong with this man kabrud? Spanking his peepee with a stick?!?

true2god:
Brainwashed Blackman. According to your own hadith, Uthman ibn Affan ordered the compilation of the Qur'an as a book. Mohammed did not ask anyone to compile the Qur'an, it was the idea of Umar, the 2nd khalifa and was finally executed by Uthman.

My take away question for you, when and where did Jibril tell Mohammed that he was angel Jibril? How do you know that the entity Mohammed claimed to give him revelations was actually Jibril?

Do your research.

true2god:
Show me any hadith or sirah rasool allah where Jibril told Mohammed that he is the angel Jibril. Muslims made the claim that it was angel jibril that spoke to Mohammed at the cave in harah, all we ask is a documented or written evidence which no Muslim have been able to provide.

true2god:
Muslims are very ignorant of their own book and history. 99% of Muslims never knew that the current Qur'an is the handiwork of Uthman. He approved the version he wanted and asked the rest be burnt. It is in the hadith I provided in my earlier post. How can you burn and evidence and expect a sane man to accept your claim? This is exactly what Uthman ibn Affan did?

If a part of the Bible had been burnt, wil you still accept it as true?

true2god:
Brainwashed Blackman. According to your own hadith, Uthman ibn Affan ordered the compilation of the Qur'an as a book. Mohammed did not ask anyone to compile the Qur'an, it was the idea of Umar, the 2nd khalifa and was finally executed by Uthman.

My take away question for you, when and where did Jibril tell Mohammed that he was angel Jibril? How do you know that the entity Mohammed claimed to give him revelations was actually Jibril?

Do your research.

HajimeSaito:
The more the merrier:

Sahih Bukhari volume 1, book 4, number 231:

Narrated Sulaiman bin Aasar: I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "i used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. "

rummmy:
Did you say own the country?why not stay on your own as a country and see if you can progress,why the attatchee by forceful begging?the only thing the fake 97%s are good at is to drag the country backward..you claim you own a country yet you kiss poverty,illitracy,terrorism and backwardness..your incompetency and laziness will be exposed once you stay on your own..ungrateful parasites,

HajimeSaito:
Okay o. Listen to your elders:


The permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad al-Shemary, the question forwarded to the committee by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421 (Islamic calendar. After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply:

"As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his [male] member between her thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers."


What a role model for you o kabrud! A 54 year old man who places his private parts in between the laps of a 6 year old girl to obtain sexual satisfaction!

Do you want me to supply you with more?

musa7m:
kabrud:
Watch how slaves with incurable complex issues will now come and start some crapy analysis because the aircraft belongs to a White race. Had it been this occurred to any Black nation (the race to which they belong) you will see them cursing the hell out of themselves. They are Blacks but always forming whiter than the White. Foolish mental slaves.
I believe he was talking to people like you with no shame

GidiWoodsMan:
Better see a therapist before it's too late

HajimeSaito:
I don't need a crown. I need a good laugh. Laughing at a certain stupid Arab prophet is more than enough entertainment for me!