₦airaland Forum

Olaolufred:
Raara o, but would have lived to fulfil my own purpose while you must have fulfilled yours as matyr.

I am not a matyr, so doing follow follow to death would mean I have foolishly died fulfilling someone's else's purpose.

While you sold off your unborn children's destiny? The people who were killed by Fulani killer herdsmen in igangan haven't been avenged today. Shame on your head! Ode

AlexBells:
Lol, making mouth is allowed I had told you, we own Nigeria if you want to leave we may or may not support you given the situation as at then but for now all options are in table

You own Nigeria? You should thank the Yorubas. If not you've been wiped out by hunger.

AlexBells:
If you chose bust, you shall be busted out of the union no one gives a damn

Na today? you're inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

AlexBells:
You are too sentimental and emotional, Ironsi, Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna, Ojukwu etc are just few Igbos, when I think about the Igbos who makes Nigeria great, I think about market women who sell clothes, I think about car mechanics who repairs cars, I think about chemist shops who sell drugs that helps us get fine when we are sick, a great bulk of the greatness of a country are championed by the little people we neglect everyday, I know so many Igbo Nigerians who are doing legit businesses all over the country, creating employment and bettering the society.

I mentioned Tinubu in the sense that if you Yorubas agitatators can get him in line he can help you actualize Oduduwa Republic, he is the most influential Yoruba politician currently, like I had told you despite your foaming in the mouth, Igbos will continue to work for betterment and unity of Nigeria.

Yorubas however can opt to leave and we will support you guys to leave.

I repeat Igbos have never done anything to make Nigeria great. You've always proven to be saboteurs and criminal entities. It's either true federalism for us or bust! We will not sell our children's future for anything.

AlexBells:
Lol self righteousness again, I had told you we are a people and we know what we want, lol we matched for Abacha and we don't regret it some of us called Nigeria a zoo because of the way Nigeria is been run but it is our duty to make Nigeria great.

You are just pained becuase we will not be buying your Southern nonses that you wish to use to ask for a revert of 1914, well I have no problem with you deciding to pull out but it is up to us to decide to stay or leave.

So since you understand the position of core Igbos, why not ask your western representative to ask for western Nigeria to leave and see how many that could support the exit, Tinubu and a few other politicians is the one holding you back because he has the structure that can ask for your exit.

It is funny how you think that majority of Igbos are asking to leave Nigeria, majority of us are asking and working for solutions

Duty to make Nigeria great? You Igbos have never done that. Have your stupid skull forgotten it was Ironsi who truncated our only true federalism and sank us into the shit hole? You were marching in million for Abacha while the Yoruba were making Nigeria great for their future children! You're criminal entities and saboteurs who stand for nothing and have no principles. No be today.

And you're very stupidd for mentioning Tinubu. Has Tinubu ever ruled Nigeria? Is Tinubu your governor? You dey mad?

AlexBells:
We are Igbos we are not South, we are Nigerians and Igbos, we are a people, we know what's good for us, we are not your subjects

I thought you foooools had said Nigeria was a zoo because you were getting killed

It doesn't negate the fact that Igbo are saboteurs and stand for criminals. Weren't you people who were doing a million man march for Abacha while other sane people (the Yorubas) were fighting for the democracy you enjoy today?

You Igbos have always been inconsequential in the scheme of things. You always stand for criminals. We will do our things in our own ways like we've always been doing.

AlexBells:
Till then, we can see your plots it will not happen before 2023 and we will sensitize our people on how to vote, the West can be relieved of the union,

We will know whatzup then. However you've only proved my point that Igbos are more or less Uselesss saboteurs to the whole South.

AlexBells:
Nigeria BELONGS TO me, until you break it nothing you say will move no one

In your delusion. When the southern protectorates separate, you would know whatzup. Greedy lunaticsss.

[quote author= post=103888377]May it never ever ever be well with anyone on Nairaland evil, wickedness, killings of innocent Nigerians, killings of our military personnel.

Anyone supporting evil here will die very miserable deaths.
They and their families will and can never escape the evil coming to their doors.

Say Amen if you don't support evil , blood and deaths.
Awon werey hypocritical swines and bastards.

Devil punish all evil people in Nigeria[/quote]Yes. May it never be well with Buhari and his families!

AlexBells:
Ignorant Mofos should do things the right ways, you can't trust your mandates on your representatives and your private citizens will be disturbing the peace of Nigerians or you don't know what you mean when you elect your officials, why not go and protest in your Senators, governors, house reps, house of assembly house, threaten them with assassination not bring death to innocence law abiding Nigerians.

That's it AlaIgbo belongs to Us, Eastern Region belonged to us, Nigeria belongs to us, anything we can acquire legally we shall acquire.

Just chanel your aggression or your agitation properly or face the consequences of disturbing the peace or endangering the lives of peaceful Nigerians.

Ijaws in Ondo, will still be in Ijaw Republic same as the ones in Lagos so I keep telling you be careful what you wish others, you will not get western region but you may get Oduduwa republic if you prove yourself a big nuisance, you will be kicked out of Nigeria, you can keep hacking around creating structures like Amotekun but it will remain a uniform structure by different state to wear same uniform.

It can't be under the federal Republic and you will use your allocation to pay for such strictures and maintain it as individual states, instead of agitating for resource control you are agitation for regional government lol, go to house and debate it first, let it pass the first reading lol.

Nonsense selfish people, today what's happening, Obasanjo was a military head of state why didn't he pass decree to overturn the current structure, the system of the Igbos will rule you as far as you are in Nigeria our fathers paid the price and today we are enjoying it.

In your deluded stupid greedy thieving skull! Nothing belongs to you apart from your land!

AlexBells:
I said we support their self determination as Ijaws, Ikwerre and Ibom Republics respectively Not Niger Delta Republic, Ikwerre should go be their own Republic lol, or Join Ijaws or Join Benin while us Igbos be our own Republic with Igbo part of PH and Asaba lol sweets me.

But due to they can't leave Nigeria unless they fight for it of which they can't fight for it knowing that we will be fighting for one Nigeria this time, they should dare, even you Yorubas should dey to leave Nigeria lol, time have changed my friend, he who loughs last loughs best.

Just try declare your Oduduwa Republic or whatever you call it or let Ijaws attempt to leave Nigeria with their Ijaw Republic and see what will happen, nonsense people, your hate for Igbos have trapped you all in perpetual cage, while we are happy in Nigeria you would watch as Igbos share your cities for very long time while keeping ours intact, try and stock up any tension and be put in your place, you all better start fighting for survival in Nigeria.

Everyone has a right to self determination. The only wrong thing is claiming what do not belong to you. Sink that into your greedy sneaky skull. You're only proving that you're no different from the Fulanis.

AlexBells:
Nigeria was far better, yet your true federalism gave us a war becuase the Eastern Region was too powerful it really went to war with the Rest, critical thinking is far from some people.

No one said they shouldn't secede, but not Gowon dividing The East against the will of the governor of the East, well they had gotten what they wanted, we will consolidate our own regional government as at today and get what we wanted, do you really think you Yorubas can get what you wanted?.

Lol, The Ijaws you are talking about today, they have just one full state, we have five full state and a total of 7 state capitals lol, the Ikwerre you keep mentioning is a special case to me and like Ojukwu I can't discuss their case with an outsider but when the chips are down like Hong Kong is to China is what Ikwerre is to Igbo.

The other secession movement was lead by rebels unlike Ojukwu who really had the peoples mandate, I can categorically tell you that Adakar Borro, Sunday Igboho and Nnamdi Kanu are all technically rebels but rebellion has its place in statehood so, who among the Ijaws were leading their secessionist agenda, Adakar Borro who did not have the peoples mandate, I wonder how your lots feel like anyone can just come out and threaten the Nigerian state and expect an entirely soft treatment without having your people mandate.

Private citizens should ask their representatives to ask for their freedom and not create tension ofcourse it is their right to agitate but ignorance is no excuse to the law and they should know every actions comes with a reaction, Ojukwu had a mandate as the governor, Adakar borro had non.

I don't know about Akwa/Cross having issues with us but Gowon provocatively went ahead to create COR state, well today we are in full support of Ibom Republic and Ijaw Republic and Igbo Republic respectively, not Niger Delta Republic not Biafra everyone should answer their names, let's see how Ijaw alone can fight their freedom out of Nigeria, let's see Oduduwa also fight her freedom out of Nigeria and you are not getting any move back to regional governments, not anytime soon.

You're not making sense. Nigeria was far better under true federalism until AZikwe, Ironsi and his fellow selfish greedy Igbos started getting envious and thirsty. Igbo killed every regional leaders apart from theirs and truncated our true federalism which led us into the mess.

And I repeat the Akwa-cross, Ikwere, Ijaws have a right to their independence. Sink that into your greedy self entitled skull. Greedy slimy mofo.

AlexBells:
They have the right to secede but that's an internal affairs of the Eastern Region not the command of Gowon, being that the Eastern Region does not at the time recognise Lagos, it is just like England saying they no longer recognise UK and no longer part of UK then the prime minister of UK moves to divide England, that's provocative, it is the reserve of England through the queen to divide itself and grant autonomy or independence to English territories, these Ikwerre and Ijaw you are talking about they are province of the Eastern Region how could Lagos divide provinces of the Eastern Region, it should be the preserve of the Eastern region and her provinces to decide their fate, didn't Camaroon leave Nigeria?

As for the Confederation, Nigeria can not easily be a pure confederation becuase While UK just have most Eight Kingoms, Nigeria have more than 300 people so if we become a confederation, there will be the Igala Kingdom seeing to the Igalas as the head of government, same applicable to Hausa/Fulanis where the Sultan of Sokoto will be the head of state, having ceremonial powers, so the issues now is that Yorubas could either chose to enter the confederation as a single people or as different Kingdoms, for you to enter the confederation as single people you must present one King who shall be your prime King which is not going to be easily possible as the supremacy battle of Yoruba kings will be back, as for regional governments.

It can't happen, I had told you you can ask for resources control and state police but regional government as such that you have western region is chaotic becuase take for instance the North, they will make Islamic laws and the East will come up with counter and the west will do theirs before you know it, we are in deep mess, The Ijaws and the Efik and Ibibio now have their own state which according to you is what they wanted so why are we still back at this argument of regional government.

You can't eat your cake and have it back, this system is better for minorities let's keep it that way, then when you Yorubas are ready for a Confederation you should first fix whether you are one Kingdom or collections of kingdoms, unless it will be Ibadan Kingdom of Nigeria, Ife Kingdom of Nigeria, Benin Kingdom of Nigeria etc. Or you could go for Oduduwa kingdom of Nigeria since you guys are monarchy but it is only ceremonial and you wont have any resource control as a kingdom but your states shall.

They were the ones (Akwa-cross, Ikwere, Ijaws) who wanted it and stamped it. You have no say in it. Your sense of entitlement, selfishness and greediness no be for here. You simply have no say in them wanting their independence. Sink that into your skull.

And Nigeria was far better and had the best improvement when they were practising true federalism.

AlexBells:
You said the he was asked to secede with his 5 state, I keep reminding you there was no South Esst but Eastern region, then how could Gowon divide Eastern Region when the East no longer recognises Lagos, that should be an international decision of the East lol.

You want Nigeria to be like UK you know UK us a confederation not a federalist state, Even though it is moving towards a federation, if you say you want us to be like UK then you are saying that Western region should be dissolved and your Obas can be your head of government which is exactly what AlaIgbo wants when I talk about Igbo province, the problem with you Yorubas is then that it will be hard to accept either of your monarchs to become the head monarch as such that you might enter the Confederation as Ibadan, Ife, Lagos as that's your kingdoms, or you must reach a compromise to get one of your kings to be the prime king and you see we would have a problem with that system.

You Yorubas are always too fast, when we are still practicing the regional government you were too fast to go build your embassy of western Nigeria, look at UK, does England have different commissions from Scotland?, these things are complex, regional government is going to bring tension and pure confederation will have Nigeria having more than 300 herds of different kingdoms.

So the problem of Nigeria is not something you solve in a hurry

You're not making sense. I already told you that Ojukwu was expected to leave with the remaining eastern States without the Ikwere, Ijaws, Akwa-cross who had a right to their independence. The options lies on them and not you greedy slimy mofos.

On confederation, I dunno what you're talking about. The Wales, Scotland, Ireland, England all have their separate entities despite being under the same confederation. That's the best for Nigeria. True fiscal federalism. Nigeria had the best improvement when they were practising true federalism until Ironsi truncated it.

AlexBells:
Point of correction Ojukwu never wanted Biafra rather he wanted devolution, check out a copy of the transcript in Aburi, Igbos never wanted to leave Nigeria until we were pushed to do so, today we are back and I guess with a free and fair Referendum it might shock you that majority of Igbos may vote to stay in Nigeria so don't even talk about Ojukwus that declared Biafra under pressure.

Even Nnamdi Kanu don't hate Nigeria and with some conditions of justice, an Igbo man love Nigeria but our mistakes in the last was thinking that everyone is sensible, if we want justice now we fight for it as Nigerians not secede, everyone had seen what secession looks like so anyone who is brave enough should pull the stunt and get their shocks.

As for Ikwerre, Yoruba, Ijaw, etc, whoever that wants to secede should be ready to pay the ultimate price as we had led by example. Nonsense.

I'm in support of the current system however mixed with an informal Confederation, the current system is more stable, you can argue about resource control and state police but having a regional government as such that regions have a different Military, different embassies and an entirely separate laws is a recipe for disaster.

Still the slimy little shit you're. Ojukwu wasn't forced. He should have simply called his people back home from the North. He was selfish and greedy. That was why he had refused to give the Ijaw, Akwa-cross, Ikwere their independence to begin with and had even crushed their secession movement. The nerves of him to have expected them to secede with him. And nobody stopped Ojukwu's secession movement. He was only asked to go with his 5 eastern states which he refused. That's greediness, selfishness & sneakiness.

Fiscal federalism is still the best way. As a matter of fact I would like the kind of British confederation of England, Wales, Ireland, Scotland etc. That's what make a functional country.

AlexBells:
Who said they will not get independence, the fact is that they were part of the Eastern region since Ojukwu was the governor, and Esstern region having stated their intention to no longer recognize Lagos/Gowon what those people you mention could have done is to vote to no to the declaration of Biafra but their representatives was in support of the declaration of Biafra the second option could have been for them to wait for Biafra to become fully independent then they can ask for a referendum, there rejection or approval was not unanimous and Ojukwu as the governor had the executive capacity, they had their representatives in the Eastern region government when the move for Biafra lingered for 3 months.

I wonder how you come up with your arguments, like today, you Yorubas are saying you want Oduduwa Republic but it still took an Ikwerre man to move the first motion for division of Nigeria, your governors and politicians most of which supports Nigeria are the one you had given mandate so you can't say you don't support Nigeria even when it is evident that majority of your people are fed up, it is still glaring that those you had given the mandate does not like the idea whether for personal benefits or more, so make your research before you make your arguments ignorant is not an excuse to the law,

These people wanted their states and were happy to have got it. They had been the ones agitating for secession/independence even before Ojukwu dreamt about secession and did you know what Ojukwu did? He truncated their secession movement. They were inhumanly treated by Ojukwu yet you wanted them to go with your Biafra? Say wetin happen? They were the first to seek for secession which was truncated by Ojukwu.

Yorubas want Oduduwa republic and have been clamouring for it. It's either Oduduwa republic/fiscal federalism for us. The Southern governors have been making moves on fiscal federalism but guess what? The Igbo political leaderss betrayed it as usual. The nerves of you to call out the Yorubas when your political leaders don't even know what they want. Your political leaders stand for nothing as we speak. They're so slimy.

AlexBells:
Five Eastern state really there was no five Eastern state so argue as it is, who created the state when the East did not recognise the Gowon government as at then, so who separated the East

Well, the Akwa-cross, Ikwere, Ijaws didn't want to be part of you. They had every right to. Just as you wanted independence, they also had the right to want their own independence.

One thing is you can't accept something you want for others and you can't take 1/3 of what you dish out. The most annoying thing is your ungrateful tendencies after anyone helps you out. You always have this sense of entitlement & narcissism.

AlexBells:
Awolowo was same with the North and I keep telling you there was no South East check your lies please, there was Eastern region and Ojukwu declared Biafra not declare wars, I had told you there is no shame in fighting as Nigeria just come out clean and say you fought for what you believe in these your lies paints more of your nature, you fought us, then saved us, you blockaded us and gave us food Wow what a treacherous analogy

When I said 5 eastern States, I mean the states remaining after Akwa-cross, Ikwere, Ijaw had separated. No one minded Ojukwu until his invasion into the neutral grounds. He did that because he was greedy, selfish and sneaky. If he had moved with these eastern states, he would have succeeded with his secession. It was his greediness, selfishness and treacherousness that ruined him and his Biafra dream.

And I repeat Awolowo protected his people from you lunaticsss. Awolowo had every right to stand and protect his people which was what he did and despite it all, he still found a way to protect you ungrateful slimy elements while Ojukwu ran away to Abidjan. Even Azikiwe and Achebe couldn't be found. None of your political leaders offered to help except Awolowo. No wonder Ojukwu said Awolowo was the best president Nigeria never had.

AlexBells:
Chei YORUBA lol, just look at the way you treachery is smelling everywhere lol, Ojukwu was allowed to go with 5 south East state chei lol, if you were arguing with some novices these are the lies you dish out and call facts, first there was no South East, but Eastern Region lol, if Nigeria wanted Ojukwu to go with South East despite there being no South East then, why didn't Nigeria stop fighting when Onitsha and Nsukka fell, why didn't they stop when it moved the capital to Okigwe lol.

Hey ee, guy you dey get conscience at all as you are dishing out these your lies, so you mean all Igbos withdrew their money from the Nigerian banks before the war lol, chai bros dey lie small small na.

Are you serious, chei Mr. Traitor, I dey feel you, my guy are you sitting behind a lie making machine, so you mean Awolowo gave the Igbos free 20£ lol, you mean from where lol, Chei, really Awolowo was the president Nigeria never had lol, really, well fortunately Nigeria never had lol.

Awolowo could have left us to our mistery, We saw his part but thankfully today we had overcame, now what the Igbos are back in full force, what next for you, lol we already know your treacherous nature, just look at all the cheap lies you are dishing out. Jeez, I'm happy I know longer have any doubts about your true nature, I'm hoping however not all of your lots are like you.

Because Ojukwu killed Nigeria armies. Did you know thousands of soldiers that drowned in River Niger? Did you know Murtala's Etsako relatives were among those killed by Ojukwu armies during his Midwest invasion? It's stupid of you to have expected Nigeria not to fight back and avenge after your atrocities. And I repeat, no one minded Ojukwu with his 5 Eastern states until he started attacking neutral grounds.

Don't get it twisted, Awolowo protected his people against you selfish greedy treacherous lunaticsss however in the process, he still had pity while the northern had wanted to wipe out you vile fools. If not for Awolowo, you people would have been wiped out by hunger. Yeye dey smell. And go ask your money from your accursed Ojukwu in the grave. You didn't keep money in Awolowo's hands. You dey ment!

AlexBells:
Oh you think there is no Yoruba at all in Igboland lol, I live in Enugu go to Mgbemene market, at the part where they sell spiritual items, Yorubas dominate that line, I know so many Yorubas living here so don't think your people are not being accommodated somewhere else, I had told you that Lagos is no sign of your being accommodating but a sign of a formal capital territory which your heartless nature is making life a living hell.

I had told you about your double standards and treachery in your saying you were non allied in the Nigerian Biafran war yet your land continued being the capital were war was waged against Igbos for three years, not in word nor in action did you give the Nigerian government quite, like I said it is your right to fight in either part of the war but come out clean and say I fought by Nigeria as Nigerians you don't tell us of your neutrality when your land was used to wage the war.

I had told you about the economic sabotage where Awo stole our money and gave everyone 20 pounds, I had told you about the food blockade, what more do you need treacherous people.

Are these not facts, stop lying about your neutrality first you had the right to defend the country you don't need to be ashamed of that just own up up to it.

You have no point here. Ojukwu was allowed to secede with his 5 states. Nobody send his ass after his Biafra declaration until he started attacking neutral grounds. And you must be stupid to have expected the country which you were fighting against to feed your people and despite it all, it was still your accursed Ojukwu and his armies who were feeding fat on the food relief sent by Awolowo. Awolowo did all to save you lunatics. That's why Ojukwu had always opined that Awolowo was the president Nigeria never had because he knew what Awolowo did. Awolowo could have left you people to your misery considering how Igbos treated him yet he helped. I guess he couldn't close his eyes to the Igbo civilians dying around him. Even Ojukwu knew that he wouldn't do the same if he was in Awolowo's shoes.

What economic sabotage? You people dey ment or what? Your foooolish ancestors had given their Nigerian pounds to Ojukwu in exchange for worthless Biafra pounds that's no use in Nigeria. Your money weren't with Nigerians but with Ojukwu for crying out loud! You dey ment? Yet Awolowo was still magnanimous enough to exchange your ancestors' worthless pounds for Nigerian pounds. Despite that, you had the audacity to scream blue murder? You keep money for Nigeria's or Awolowo'z hand? Your brain dey ment? Your ancestors' money was with Ojukwu, not with Awolowo! You're really maaad!

Awolowo was the one who reinstated you dingbats back into Nigeria. Do you know how much was 20£ back then? It was a lot. Nigerian shouldn't have even offered you any money sef cos they're not supposed to go bankrupt over you people's foolishness yet Awolowo still made it a point to integrate Igbos back into Nigeria and supported them. Sometimes, it's not good to do good, especially to narcissistic self entitled ungrateful treacherous people such as the Igbos.

And I repeat all your prominent leaders schooled in western region as at back then. You Igbos loitered everywhere in the south western region and even make your money in our region!

AlexBells:
Oh God, lol, really, backstabbing, serious but I don't blame your vehement denial what else will you expect from a vehement treacherous elements would you see any bad in your own side, please you are not accommodating don't mention it you are defeated, where are you accommodating in Lagos or in Ibadan, lol.

I had given you several facts of your treachery yet you don't see it, I had given you several grounds that you had backstabbed others, but you don't see it calling yourself accommodating when you know you are not is treachery you are just scared of the Consequences of your uprising.

Accommodating that only seen in Lagos which used to be a federal capital, is it not a fact that Lagos is the only Yoruba city that has more outsider population than Kano, Abuja and Kaduna where is your accommodation, you don't have facts but made up stories, you are treacherous.

Gush defeated people, wake up and smell the coffee, not everyone will buy your cheap treacherous lies, you are accommodating yet area boys are making life a leaving hell in Lagos, The state ripping off people with high tax, toll gates, etc, is that accommodating to you.

Please don't mention Yorubas and being accommodating in one sentence please,

Point out these betrayals like I have done. Do this or shut your treacherous ungrateful slimy holes.

Meanwhile we have Igbos in Oyo, Ogun, Ondo state etc. apart from Lagos. Heck! Achebe and several others schooled in Oyo states. AZikwe was born in the North but grew up in Ondo state.

You really dey ment! Treacherous ungrateful greedy slimy elements.

Nkwobi042:
Unfortunately we no be head hunters that's why it flop


He should have given the contract to your papa

Okija people are up to it You brought all sorts of crime to Nigeria. Criminal lots.

Nkwobi042:
Hian!
He failed looking for it in Igboland. All he had to do was was contract it to Alfa Sakiru at Owo and he'd supply them within minutes!

Kanu needed 2000 young Igbo heads.

Nkwobi042:


You guys are the Champs

You criminal lots taught us. You started the first ritualism and several other criminal crimes in Nigeria. Even Kanu Nnamdi was looking for 2000 heads to bury with ikonso.

AlexBells:
I asked you a simple question which your treacherous nature is avoiding what is your fault as a tribe, as a people, what bad aspect are you known for, I don't even know what you mean by our governors betraying Southern governors lol, governors forum that had not formed yet betrayal accusations don start lol.

So what fault do you Yorubas have, as for Akintola, Tafawa and Saduana I'm deeply sorry about their assassination however that was a Military decision. So man, tell the world, what is the bad side of your people, I have told you my people could be a little dangerous, damning consequences, brash and more but what fault does your people have.

You've got no point to backup any claim of Yoruba betraying you people. Whereas I have named several of your betrayals.

You wanna know Yoruba's bad sides? Too much accomodating! It's not good at all, considering the ungrateful elements that abounds. They've always been short-changed & betrayed at the end of the day. I think it's high time they start looking out for themselves first before others.