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IsraeliAIRFORCE:
In the domain of spirits, there is no forgiveness. Justice is required for sin committed and substitution is acceptable.

Did you attend committee of spirits when they met to reach this conclusion and pass it as a spirit law?

occfx:
Freewill is part of God... You are God too. Why do you want to be a robotic God. You don't like to create?

God created another God so you can create too.

Why don't you want to be God?

That's not a response. It's a lame excuse. Your God cannot prevent evil because of freewill.

If your God cannot create a world free of evil unless he made people baboons and robots, you need to seriously question if your God is truly Omniscient and Omnipotent.

I don't expect you to grasp this by the way.

This is an obvious truth only to rational mind devoid of religious indoctrinations

occfx:
There was no need to create you in the first place. He would stop at baboons. Are you not happy you are human?

Then why call him an omniscient, all-powerful and all-wise. Religious people claim He can see all the futures and yet he still allow sufferings and evil.

If I know that a criminal is going to harm and permanently damage a little girl for life, I will arrange the situations that won't even allow that criminal to do such evil. I won't allow it and say that I'm giving the criminal a free will. And I don't have to turn the criminal into a baboon.

I know you will do the same, if you have such powers. That speaks a lot about the God that these foreign Abrahamic religions are pushing upon us.

kernniejay:
Thank you for your questions.
To answer your first and second questions, there are many lessons and reasons of the crucifixion at Calvary, let me just give you few:

1. God has the power to forgive sins without having need to get Jesus nailed on the cross. However, God wants us to know that He respects sacrifice. He proved this by giving His best as a sacrifice to Himself for our sins. So when we make very costly sacrifice, God knows what it takes us to make such sacrifice.

2. God wa andnts to demonstrate the power in covenant made with blood. The blood of Jesus was shed as a covenant that God shall forgive whoever that accepts Jesus as Savior and genuinely repents from their sins.

3. God wants to demonstrate to mankind that He is the greatest giver. He wants us to know that He loves us and if He can give Himself for us, there is nothing too hard or too big that He cannot give us.

4. God wants us to know that He loves us more than anything else. There is no greater love than when a man gives his life to be killed in place of another person's life.

5. God wants us to know that there is no suffering or hardship that we pass through that He has not passed through before us. He wants us to know that He has felt our pain before and if any of His child (Christian) is facing persecution, He has also experienced persecution and He knows the agony. Jesus was mocked, spat upon, slapped in the face, flogged, denied water when he was thirsty, pierced with spear, lied upon, denied by His friend, hated by His own people, He was called bad names, denied justice, was innocent but a notorious criminal was freed in His exchange, was eventually killed unjustly, He experienced death, and was buried. He has all experience of suffering anybody can have, so that we should not think He doesn't know what it takes to go through pain or suffering. However, He rose from the dead because He was not an ordinary man, He only came to save us from the power of sin and hell.

To answer your third question; God gives us power to make our decision, He does not impose His own way on us, He has given us ability to make our choices. However, He would always warn us of consequences of making the wrong decision or choice. That is why He warned the first man and woman about sin and consequence of death. But the people were deceived by the devil and disobeyed God.

Hmmm.

Let me digest everything properly.

Thank you very much for this brilliant and mature response.

InvertedHammer:
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Stop using your brain. It is a crime in religion. You must believe whatever story they tell lest they shame you.

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Well, God/Ultimate Being/Mother Nature gave me my brain and he/she/it won't be angry if I use it to analyse things.

It's only religions, religious leaders, religious followers and the respective religion's imaginary Gods that will tell me stop using my brains .

occfx:
How do you save Nigeria citizens for example?

If I have the powers of Ominiscience, Omnipotence and Ultimate Wisdom; I will arrange situations from the beginning such that Nigerian citizens will not even need saving in the first place. They will function and use their free will to choose good actions the way I originally intended them to.

A truly All-knowing, All-Powerful and All-Wise God shouldn't need to do damage control (saving). He will prevent damage in the first place.

occfx:
Try and understand the message.

I'm trying... and wondering why

wirinet:
Numbers 31:17-18
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

Waiting for explanation or re-translation

Oga, park well.

I said Show me where the Bible instruct Christians to commit sexual offences..

and I will show you where Quran instructed Muslims to murder infidels and non-muslims until the only religion is Islam

liasmiram2567:
Like your Catholic Bishops and other Pastors who have committed grave sexual offences on the young and old ,I should blame Christianity for the crime of a few? Islam is not to be blamed for his crime. ISLAM COUNTS RAPE AND OTHER SEXUAL OFFENCES AS GRIEVOUS CRIMES.

Show me where the Bible instruct Christians to commit sexual offences and I will show you where Quran instructed Muslims to murder infidels and non-muslims until the only religion is Islam

wirinet:
What of Christianity? Has Christianity not committed as much atrocity as Judaism and Islam?

Yes, But Christianity has reformed over the centuries and it's no longer as violent as Islam or Judaism. Islam is where Christianity was 600 years ago. You will never see a Christian today killing non-christians in the name of his religion shouting "Yeshua Akbar" "In the name of Jesus" etc etc.

That's my point.

sweetkev:
Because sins can not be forgiven without blood. This is called blood of the lamb. It is a divine and spiritual rules of cleansing sins. Hebrews 9 vs 22.

So if my brother offends me, I must shed blood before I can choose to forgive him? Hmm.

An Omniscient, All-Wise Mind cannot make a rule like this. It's simply religious people making excuses for deficiencies of their religion.

advanceDNA:
an islamist is first an islamist before being a human being…. So being true doesnt concern them….. to them, this news is an attack against their prophet and religion…

Very sad.

For humanity to progress, evil religions and ideologies (not humans o) like Islam just have to die or be reformed

Luckysbab:
Rape stats among the Jewish Israelis:

Prevalence: An estimated one in three women in Israel experiences sexual assault in her lifetime. This amounts to approximately 84,000 women assaulted each year, or about 230 sexual assaults daily.
Comparison: The rate of sexual violence offenses in Israel is reportedly 10% higher than the average rate in OECD countries.
Reporting and Indictment: A significant number of cases are closed without charges. One report found that 92% of rape investigations in Israel were closed by prosecutors without indictment.
Perpetrators/Victims: Roughly half of the victims treated at crisis centers knew their perpetrator before the assault. A study also found that 18.3% of Israeli teenage girls and boys had experienced sexual assault before the age of 16.
IDF Data: In 2020, the IDF received 1,542 complaints of sexual assault, resulting in only 31 indictments.

This doesn't change the fact of what he said.

You're like a thief caught red-handed and his defense was "our neighbour also stole last week". Both of you are thieves. Facts

Same way, both Judaism and Islam are evil religions

Why did God has to get himself nailed to the cross to forgive people their sins? Why didn't he simply forgive their sins? Or better yet use his omniscient knowledge of the future and omnipotence power to arrange situations such that people won't choose to sin, without necessarily overriding their free will?

Why?

Mirasteel:
Anything about Islam gives you hard on.

Is he not saying the truth?

Does this man still believe SE votes alone will make him win?

WriteerNg:
I have credible information that there will be very deadly attacks on at least two FIFA World Cup venues.

I'd like to call it a terror attack but unfortunately it isn't.

Guy be smart for once.

Even if you think you have sure intel on this (which I'm sure you don't) , you think sharing this on a public forum is a smart thing to do?

You think you're anonymous, but you're very wrong. Nairaland is not as anonymous as you think. The "fake" email you used to register on nairaland is tied to your other real emails via the same IP addresses, Mac, browsers, smart devices, laptops, phones used to access them etc etc.

Gerrard59:
What makes you think girls who aren't broke don't bill or ask for stuff?

Every woman out there likes money.

It's not about asking for stuff (normal) but threatening breaking up because her man can't give (crass behaviour)

Most broke girls have this crass attitude. They see their boyfriend/husband as poverty relief scheme. I said most, because not all broke girls are this senseless

Loaded girls with sense is always the best. They don't just ask, they have something to give other than their kitty kat. That's my advice to the young man.

I would rather spend my money buy peace of mind - Samsung

These chinko phones will cost you more in the long run

This is how to TITHE!

Not giving to those manipulative thieves on the pulpit.

Good girl!

yemiike:
Why everything in this country is all about money?
Why everyone here is mad about money?
Why all our lives is struggling to earn money?

Who controls money?
Why if everyone get money?
Is there nothing to live for apart from money?
Why everyone look at you as useless if you don't have money, including your own parents?
What if money is banned and abolished?
Will life stop?
What life was like when there was no money?

Las las How can I stop feeling useless because I don't have money?
I tell a girl today that I don't have money and she stopped picking my calls?
So apart from money I m useless in the eyes of that girl?

Stop dating broke and senseless girls. Up your game and go for girls with sense

Canada happened to those people.

RIP to them

Keep your gayism in your house and you will have no problems.

I can't believe DRC Congo is potentially richer than China

I weep for DRC Congo.

The richest African nation, yet the people are greatly suffering poverty and perpetual war 😭

QuinQ:
Don't forget: TRADERS WORK SATURDAYS!!!
One-day weekend is inhumane!
In short Igbos have decided they like the three-day weekends they've been enjoying (two days for traders).
Even if Kanu were released tomorrow it would continue.
Ironically the rest of the country may decide to join in. Who no like better thing



It is NOT cowardice at all. The human being truly NEEDS a three-day weekend (2 days for traders). The.weekend ends too quickly when there is so much social and societal engagements to get done

Nope. That'll be too much. The human being needs life-work balance. 3-day weekend is right. 2 days is two short, 4 days too long


The sit-at-home is no longer about MNK. It is about a people having tasted 3-day weekends (2 days for traders) and have decided they love it. Life has to be more than work!

Exactly!

ajalawole:
Them don use those one. Fear some upcoming gospel artist. I date one, who get pregnant for a guy she meet on Fb, funny enough her ex husband don't see her to disvirgin for the 3 month there marriage lasted. Well, she later abort the pregnancy sha.

I'm not surprised to find a mumu comment like this. This kind of backward thinking is precisely why black Africa will always remain backward to other races. Superstitious and illogical way of seeing things.

Sniffing cocaine is not forbidden in the Bible, neither is slapping army officer, sleeping with relatives, crossing roads blindfolded.. None of these was expressly forbidden by the Bible. But does that mean it's the right thing to do?

Conscience and common sense suppose guide you, na

temitope27:
dangote was not born into Christianity, and yet he's the most successful man in Africa right now

God is not a Christian, neither is he a Muslim. He is GOD!!!

He can decide to bless any one he chooses. Be it Christian, Muslim, Traditionalist or Atheist. Yes, he can and he does that all the time.

kpankpangolo:
Hiding her knuckles in every picture. This one don bleach her life throway.

This is a woman who had achieved a lot, more than 99% of other women. A true inspiration to many young girls and women. It's unwise to focus on non-essentials about her skin and knuckles.

Scorpio99:
Ukraine is gradually killing Pootin's most trusted bunch, decimating it's military by going for the neck. From head of chemical weapons research to deputy intelligence chief and several other important figures.

Nairaland !d!ots: Pootin is a KGB officer.

Mtcheeeew, as if Dem no dey kill intelligence chief. If Putin wakka recklessly now, Ukrainian SBU will roast him like suya in kiev.

Is it almighty Pootin, their lord, the ruler of their mother Russia, you're insulting like this? Chai! Children of nowadays no get respect again. 😂😂😂😂😂