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truthman2012:
What is clear enough ?

Earth = 2 Days (Qur'an 41:9)
Earth Nourishment = 4 Days (Quran 41:10)
Seven firmaments = 2 Days (Quran 41:12)
Total = 2+4+2 = 8

The heaven and the earth were created simultaneously, have you asked yourself why heaven and earth were both given a duration of two days? do that! ye shall find the answer ye seek.

Rilwon:
Yahweh has mouth, so he could eat and pass out faeces.. Hehe..
Awon werey

bros, them ban u sef?

analice107:
Anyways, this discussion is not about seeing God with human eyes. God is a spirit so can't be observed with human physical eyes.

what you just said has refuted all you've been saying since, if you in are God's image, then why aren't you a spirit?

The discussion is centered on, whether, you as a Muslim looks like your God Allah.

I have answered this by quoting a verse where Allah said he is comparable to none

You then went on to ask if I know how the Almighty looks like, and I answered in the affirmative. How do I know? because, my God said I look like him. This led to me bringing out the attributes the Bible gives of God. I didn't give him the attributes, the Bible did. And from the mouth of Yahweh too, I hear Him talking about Himself using those attributes. Example: when He first encountered Moses, He said to him, in Exodus chapter 3:7-8.
And the LORD said, I have surely seen (He has to have eyes to see right?) the affliction if my people which are in Egypt, and have heard(He has to have ears to hear right?) their cry by reason of their taskmasrers; for i know their sorrows (He has to have a mind and consciousness and emotions to feel the pain of his people right?).

Kabir, I can go on and on. But, the question still remains, Are you 'Kabir', like Allah?

Then I asked does he regrets like a human being? and No I'm not like Allah, I have told you why.

Does he hear you when you pray?

yes, he does.

How do you know?

because Allah says:

"When my servants ask thee concerning Me I am indeed close (to them); I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me; let them also with a will listen to My call and believe in Me; that they may walk in the right way."

He also says

“And your Lord said: Invoke Me (i.e. believe in My Oneness (Islamic Monotheism) and ask Me for anything ) I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness, (Islamic Monotheism)] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!”

I can go on and on..

Has he ever spoken back to you when you speak to him?

What are the ways he has ever employed to communicate to you personally?

Yahweh through all the ages has continued to reveal himself to people. Speaks audibly to his people.
Jesus is even so obvious. People see him everyday, in dreams, in visions, some hear him audibly giving instructions, directions etc.

No one has spoken to God directly only Musa has done that, but still Allah speaks to his believers through the Quran, so Muslims communicate with Allah once they open His Book, anyone that claims to have talked to God directly has seen nothing but a demon, he/she needs his/her head checked!

So, for the last time, my dearest Kabir, is Allah like you?

I've answered this already.

lexiconkabir has been banned for 24hours, I wonder who reported me and why

analice107:
Now you have addressed the issue.
OK, but, I wonder why this your Musa's request to see Allah similar to the Biblical account of Moses requesting to see Yahweh. If you claim that these individuals are the same, why then is there no account of Allah writing out his commandments with His own hand to your Musa?

This is so because Allah the most gracious says:

"He has revealed to thee the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Torah and the Gospel"

but as time went on, these scriptures were distorted which made Allah say:

"But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others)."

so on that account, you may see similarities, between the OT and the Quran, but we muslims dont believe entirely in the modern Torah or injeel, read this authentic saying of the prophet pbuh

"Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you"
I hope you now see why there are similarities?

Why is he just a prophet to you muslims?

what is he to Christians, god?

Where is the Law Musa received?

where else? mount Sinai of course

If Musa indeed is the same as Moses, why is there a need for Jibril ( I say Jibril, because there's no where is it written that it was Allah who dictated the Koran to Muhammed; again, the being who dictated the Koran didn't even introduce itself)

Are you sure jibril didn't introduced himself? read this authentic saying of the prophet related by at-tabari:

The Messenger of Allah said: "I have never abhorred anyone more than a poet or a mad man. I can not stand looking at either of them. I will never tell anyone of Quraish of my Revelation. I will climb a mountain and throw myself down and die. That will relieve me. I went to do that but halfway up the mountain, I heard a
voice from the sky saying ‘O Muhammad! You are the Messenger of Allah and I am Gabriel.’ I looked upwards and saw Gabriel in the form of a mputtinghis his legs on the horizon. He said: ‘O Muhammad You are the Messenger of Allah and I am Gabriel’ I stopped and looked at him. His sight distracted my attention from what I had intended to do. I stood in my place transfixed. I tried to shift my eyes away from him. He was in every direction I looked at. I stopped in my place without any movement until Khadijah sent someone to look for me. He went down to Mecca and came back while I was standing in the same place. Gabriel then left, and I went back home. I found Khadijah at home, so I sat very close to her. She asked: ‘Father of Al- Qasim! Where have you been? I sent someone to look for you. He went to Mecca and returned to me.’ I told her of what I had seen. She replied: ‘It is a propitious sign, O my husband. Pull yourself together, I swear by Allah that you are a Messenger for this nation.’ Then she stood up
and went to Waraqa and informed him. Waraqa said: ‘I swear by Allah that he has received the same Namus , i.e. angel that was sent to Moses. He is the Prophet of this nation. Tell him to be patient.’ She came back to him and told him of Waraqa’s words. When the Messenger of Allah finished his solitary stay and went down to Makkah, he went to Waraqa, who told him: ‘You are the Prophet of this nation. I swear by Allah that you have received the same angel that was
sent to Moses.’"

so do you now see?

They are several verses that called jibril the messenger of Allah, so by implication Allah sent jibril to dictate the Quran for Muhammad pbuh.

to dictate the Koran which negates a lot of what Musa seemingly received from Allah?

that's because it has been distorted like i showed earlier.

to be continued...