₦airaland Forum

Donake:
Why can't he defect formally and drag the party like a man? Blowing trumpet for someone in one party and working as an appointee in another. Make it make sense!!!

kelechi50:
And his fall will also be studied in schools years to come. let me teach you politics a little bit, Okadigbo under NPN was like Wike under APC , but what happened at the end.

At his peak in NPN he called the great ZIK's speech the ranting of an ant, and do you know what happened to him last.

AMINDA:
Quoted again for posterity. These madness that you Southwesterners are enabling and applauding in a bid to have Tinubu run unopposed will come back to haunt you. The madness of an election that took place in Rivers over the weekend is reminiscent of the worst years of PDP but you are fine with it. Posterity is not on your side and Tinubu will still not win his re-election in 2027. Buhari is clearly a better leader and democrat than Tinubu can ever hope to be.

Validated:
Who will vote Tinubu in Enugu State? Even the Governor kitchen staff will not vote for Tinubu.

Justiceleague1:
While you continue to shout "up nepa" for 6 out of 24hrs light and under bandits attacks

Justiceleague1:
While you continue to shout "up nepa" for 6 out of 24hrs light and under bandits attacks

gidgiddy:
This is how things should be done in civilised countries. If you have evidence against someone, take them to court let court determine their guilt

gidgiddy:
Presidency is not the birthright of anybody. The same people who decided that one term was enough for Jonathan, are the same who now say that one term is not enough for Tinubu

At the end of the day, it will be up to the people to decide, as long as free and fair elections are done

Godjone:
They are plotting now to gang up against Obi because he sued one of their tribesman to court for defamatory statement. They should be careful Because if they allowed the obidient s unleash their anger, the country will burn. Nobody own Monopoly for violence enough to all these madness

Burob:
Trouble dey sleep, yanga go wake am, wetin e dey find?

Ojiofor:
I do express my personal opinion I never created any thread in the name of ndi Igbo or speak for ndi Igbo if there is any bring it up.

Softmirror:
Falana made his own cool cash sha.

Racoon:
Always remember that the downfall of a man is not and never the end of his life. Political empires have risen and fallen.

DMerciful:
Lets wait till 2027, we will repeat it again and this time we will not trust IREV or the courts. Everything ends at the polling units

AMINDA:
We know how the elections were "won". They were paying as high as 25k per vote in some polling units and as low as 500 naira in others. It was a bazaar and a stark weaponization of poverty. The general election will be a different matter as general performance and momentum will determine the winner, not necessarily paid cash. How many people can you afford to buy by then?

casualobserver:
I don’t know where to start or whether I should even bother. Talking about irev is a sign of someone without grey matter or at the very least someone who doesn’t understand the election process. If I hadn’t seen the irev in your response. I might have been tempted but I have no tolerance for educated person who talks about irev. Such a person is either ignorant of the process, lacking in grey matter or not worthy of engaging because he believes what he believes irrespective of evidence. I have encountered enough of such and probably you in the past to leave them to their destiny. Just as Saturday was an epiphany moment for many Obidients, in time you will see the results of what everyone can see but you.

For the benefit of others who are reading, IREV plays no part is the vote counting process. Irev is not used to count votes, that is why you will only ever see individual polling unit results in irev. Irev does not collate the results. So If you like alter the results on irev, that’s your business, Inec does not use it to collate results. It is a viewing portal for the public and what it shows or is supposed to show is a copy of the original result sheet which every party agents and the police have a copy of.

This is how elections work:
1. Votes are counted at the PU in presence of voters, the party agents and the police
2: the results are imputed into the ORIGINAL EC8 result sheet
3: party agents sign the ORIGINAL result sheet and are given copies as well as a copy for the police. Please it is important note at this point every body has a copy of the ORIGINAL result sheet!
4: results are posted at the PU so voters can see and snap. If not they are at least aware of the announced results.
5: the ORIGINAL results sheet (EC8) is scanned and sent to irev for the public to view. At this point The election and INEc has no more business with irev.
6: INEC takes the ORIGINAL result sheet to the collation center where party agents from various polling units come with their own copies to verify the results being collated and announced tallies with what they have on their copy…i.e that there has been no tampering of results.. It is the ORIGINAL physical result sheet that is used to collate votes not irev. As they are announcing, party agents are comparing to what they have. Sometimes you can see this on televised state and national results when the rec make genuine errors in additions. If you try to enter say 100 votes for a candidate when my copy as a party agent says 60 votes, I will object.
7: if there is a dispute, party agents will tender their copies of ORIGINAL results sheet issued to them at the PU to compare. If at the collation center a corrupt a INEc official tries to record say 100 votes for a candidate when my copy of the result sheet as a party agent says 60 votes, I will object and present my copy of what I was given at the PU as evidence. . If we can’t resolve it we ask the police for his copy. If it is clear it has been tampered it is cancelled. This is why sometimes you hear at collation centers “any cancellations?” These cancellations may be referenced later if the results of the election are affected by the cancelled votes. If it has been tampered in any way, it will be discovered. If further verification is required, the copy with the police will be referenced. If they don’t tally or their is ambiguity the entire results may be cancelled. The only time irev is referenced is if after comparing the results of the party agent and the police their is still discrepancy, then INEc will request a copy of the result on IREV. I have never known a single incident where INEC has had to reference the result on IREV. For INEc to do so, it means the police have lost their copy.
The collation goes from ward to state to national. The source or genesis of the votes being collated At ANY POINT is the PHYSICAL ORIGINAL result sheet not irev. Which like I said all party agents, police have copies. So if any result is altered there is evidence.

Were results altered ofcourse in some PUs, but if they made a difference there would be a paper trail. I have said it many times, it is unfortunate that sore losers have damaged the reputation and Image of one of the best electoral systems in the world.


I have said it many times, you cannot rig in our current system and not leave evidence. The biggest point of electoral fraud right now is vote buying not the actual voting. There is a reason Obi and Atiku went to court to Disqualify Tinubu instead of showing where they won! Because they did not win! If they did there would be evidence no matter what anyone does on IREV.

Anybody can make claims. For instance Obi claims he got 1m votes in Lagos, that means he was cheated out of 500,000 votes. Considering that the maximum number of voters per polling unit in Nigeria is 1000 and assuming that 50% of voters turned out (in reality it was around 20%). What Obi is Saying is that in 1000 polling units in Lagos (assuming 50% turnout and all the voters in that PU voted for him)


How is it possible in Lagos for you to have 1000 polling units where you were rigged and you don’t have evidence? We are talk8mg about Lagos o not Katsina or Jigawa!

So if some people want to put their gray matter on hold they are free to. As they say If you refuse to engage your thinking cap someone else will make us of it for you, whether an Nnamdi Kanu or a Peter Obi.

Ttalk:
Amanda the ADC octopus is nowhere to be found for his ultimate prediction. Obi and Atiku are presently observing the outcome, while the Obidients will resume hunger cry shortly

Burob:
validated Bobloco, Tochi3, racoon, xscape1993, lexy2014, kukutente23 please come & explain this issue to us o.

sreamsense:
But you and ipob were still crying during that time you are referencing when ekpa was still deceiving you, killing Igbos and imprisoned them every Monday. But now we thank God, Tinubu has broken the backbone of IPOB that deceived many Igbos with Biafra that never exist or near existence in the future. We thank president Tinubu for making this op forget anything about Biafra, and now following Nigeria politics he had left for so long. This alone is enough to vote Tinubu again

Spandau:
We keep drumming it into your skulls that you should go. Start by moving enmass back to the SE. Then you will be taken seriously. But of course you don't really want to go. You want us to hand over presidency to you, hence your threat of secession. You think you can use all these madness as a bargaining chip to have the presidency handed to you. Even if you somehow succeed in going, be rest assured that it's only your 5 plots of land that you will get. You can go to war again o if that doesn't satisfy you.

normac:
The fact that this post could not name one factual person or group that was present at this fictitious political summit, should tell you this is completely made up hogwash. OP could not even name a venue or date when this happened. I wonder what tribal champions such as yourself stand to gain if you guys eventually set this country ablaze, forgetting that you or yours could be caught up in it.

why make up lies just to whip up tribal sentiment? this Op's only contribution to NL is tribal baiting content and the admins ought to restrict or outright ban individuals like this who have nothing reasonable to offer to this platform

Okoroawusa:
Finally, I am not a lone voice on Nairaland anymore. Reasonable Igbos like me are rising up.

Nna, ife ikwuru kwu oto ka amu nwoke but the matter is have we as a tribe learnt anything all those years?

It's an ikegwuru situation

Chidibe212:
From my analysis even with this incumbent Southern Presidency.

*First, the Northerners have the majority in numbers

*Second, the South East will back Atiku through Obi (we Easterners have backed the west on OBJ, the North on Yar'Adua, South South on Goodluck). The favour will be returned in 2031 for an Eastern Presidency.

*Third, the masses including the South South and South west this APC has impoverished will join forces and remove Tinubu and this APC bad regime even if Seyi Tinubu is INEC president.

Now check Tinubu, it's because he had an agreement with Buhari that's why some northerns divided their votes even against a fellow Northern (Atiku) in 2023 Election.

The North always remembers.

I said and I repeat, as long as there's a written, signed agreement in this coalition for Atiku to do one term and hand over, as long as this agreement is upheld then this strategy is good. Most especially with the power of incumbency ADC will carry.

Now if Obi looses a primary Election Against Atiku in ADC, who will you vote for in General Election between Tinubu's impoverished policies or Atiku who hasn't been president before?

Note that a VP position have very LIMITED power if you want to measure Atiku under Obj

On truncation of Southern Presidency, did it not happen in 2015? Did Nigeria fall nor divide?

Read the analysis of Okonkwo in that post as well. It made sense to me, it may not make sense to you. That's why I asked for your thoughts not insults...Biko nu o🙏

Kalulu44:
Or you're ready to die for your continuous paycheck