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And so? Are the listed names not qualify enough or are they from Taraba State?

I think the world is now facing something more critical than the Russia/Ukraine war.

They didn't observe the janazah prayer group by group but one after the other.
You can even observe Solat Gaib to your love one in far distance which I know.

My question still stand, why didn't the Sahabah at the funeral never observe the janazah prayer together.

egalitarianism:
That's what I'm saying. You don't understand it.

They observed it (the funeral prayer) in congregation, but group by group.

You'll ask why was it in group by group if you don't know.

Stop saying what you don't know please

Meanwhile, you can still observe funeral prayer for your dead solely if you didn't met the jamma'a or you're not aware on time (up to a month after his/her death.

I am asking you a direct question. Why did the Sahabah didn't observe the Solat Janazah of the prophet in congregation.

egalitarianism:
He didn't answer you because what you're asking, you don't even understand (if this is thesame question you asked him) and he must have found it too demeaning to respond.

1. Who agreed that congregation prayer is Bid'ah? Who?
2. When prophet was Alive, he never observed solatul janāzah in jamma'a? Is that what you're saying?
3. The Sahaba also never observed solatul janāzah in jamma'a? That's what you're saying?

I don't think you understand all these questions u asked seriously.

Even your pig dey weep for you in pity.

tanigororo:
It's obvious, my Goat dey weep for you in pity.

I have asked Abu Twins question which he has been avoiding. If you agreed that congregation prayer is Bid'ah, then you should also say congregation Solat Janazah is also Bid'ah because even when the prophet passed on his Sahabah didn't perform Solat Janazah in congregation.

egalitarianism:
Is that your evidence of fidau prayer?

Do you use your own brain to justify what's right or wrong in Islam or you do how the holy prophet and his Sahaba did?

3 days, 8 days, 14 days and 40 days are practise by Hausa, Igala, Igbira, Muslims in Ghana, Togolese Muslim.

The Arab self dey do am but not in our way.

i.e, The first son will gather his late father's friend for a dinner or so for his late father. I don't know if it is all the Arab though.

Pakistani Muslims self also do it. So don't say it only Yoruba Muslim.

Lukuluku69:
It is an Innovation.

Islam is practiced all over the World, how come we see this gathering only amongst the Yorubas?

3 Days, 8 Days, 14 Days and 40 Days Prayers?

The Prophet ( Peace Be Upon Him) never practiced it nor his Noble Companions.

They are the standard in this matter of ours.

What is bid'ah in the way they're doing it. The OP message stand on condemnation of Fidau prayer so I don't expect you to support band A and oppose band B. Stand upright brother.

AbuTwins:
It is bid'ah if done the way your alfas do it!

I don't think I have make mentioned of any food. I still stand on fidau prayer alone.

77up:
What op was saying is actually right , from fidau prayer, ganusi follows. It is normal to pray for the dead but not to involve Amala and ewedu or akara.

Bidia as how? I asked you earlier, is the congregationally Janazah prayer also bid'ah?

Because when the prophet passed on there's no such for him..

AbuTwins:
Why do you like changing goal posts to accommodate your bid'ah?

So what is the number 3 again? And what is the meaning of Fidau?

NOETHNICITY:
No, that is not true

The Hadith says that upon the pen is raised after a person dies unless for 3 reasons

1, Any continuous charity established by the deceased. Eg planting of tree, borehole that serves people etc

2, Any beneficial knowledge impacted by the deceased that continues to benefit the living

3, Lastly, If the deceased has a righteous child that continues to remember the deceased in prayer.

Wa Iyakum.

The Allah told us never to forget our departed souls in our prayer.

Mubiola360:
Thank you my brother, please tell us what Allah said in the quran and the teachings regarding Fidau.
Jazakallahu khairan

Just imagine the madness. The same guys who has caused many death to our people.

Yah Rasululahi.

Do we have any Hadith that condemned them for giving out Sadaqoh for their loved ones? Either food, money or clothes?

AbuTwins:
The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam (may Allaahexalt his mention) said: “There is no Muslim who consoles his fellow Muslim except that Allaah would clad him with precious garments of dignity on the Day of Judgement.”

This one is clear! Console them, not eat their food and collect their money!

Now, what the hadith you're quoting is referring to is Fidau. Your late father may not subscribe to the congregation prayer hence he said no one should gather for him.

But what you are doing after each obligatory prayer is Fidau for him.

NOETHNICITY:
He didn’t say we shouldn’t remember him in our prayers(Infact there is very authentic Hadith that advises us to do this).
He only asked us not to organize a coming together for prayers for him

When your dad passed on, supposing he died in Kaduna and you have families scattered around the country. When they come to visit your mom and the children, did they offer prayer to him or they just come and go?

NOETHNICITY:
Visiting the bereaved is quite different from organizing a coming together for prayers and other stuff

Very different

Brother, we are here to learn from one another. The OP clearly said doing Fidau prayer is Bid'iah.

77up:
They didn't say praying for a dead loved ones bad , infact it is good but , ganusi is bidiah

Hadith that he visited people that lost their loved ones?

AbuTwins:
Show us the hadith!

You are a liar till you bring it.

So why are you offering prayer for him after each prayer when he has told you not to do so?

NOETHNICITY:
My late dad, may Almighty Allah have mercy on his soul, before his death warned me being the eldest son, very sternly about this.

He was so stern that he almost placed a curse upon anyone who would against his wish!

After his death we didn’t do anything for him

But I ensure to always remember him in my 5daily prayers

I do 30 instigfara and recite Sura Ikhlas after every of my 5daily prayers, for him. No matter how busy I am I must do this

Fidau is not innovation.

aumeehn:
its Innovation in Islam because the Prophet never did it.
Innovation is Haram in Islam

I don't need to bend any hadith to suit myself. He goes around with his Sahabah but no record if he eat or not. Also no record where he condemned eating.

AbuTwins:
Show us where he ate at the gathering?
Show us where he packed people to the burial?
Show us one instance from an authentic hadith?

You are turning this to a joke. The prophet according to history always visit people that lost their loved ones. Are you saying when he reached there he won't offer any prayer?

When he lost his beloved ones too won't his sahabah offer him prayer.

AbuTwins:
You like prolonging things! Show us from the Qur'an and Sunnah how it is done?

Where did the Prophet call alfas to come Ganu si burial?

I am asking you, did the prophet and sahabah lay curses on their loved one after their demised? Since you said they don't offer prayer for them.

egalitarianism:
Stop saying what you don't know.

Show us where the Holy prophet or Sahaba did so.

You should only interfere in Islamic issue when you have that knowledge

You need to go back to your Arabic class. During the era of the prophet, Janazah prayer is conducted one by one. Even when the messenger of Allah PBUH passed on, his disciple never observed the Janazah prayer on him Jammah. Each one of them enter his room observe their own janazah prayer and leave...

So should we start condemning the congregation Janazah prayer we are doing today?
I am not supporting wearing aso ebi, playing music or drinking alcohol or tunning Fidau to a street carnival.

aumeehn:
You are the person that should stop saying what you dont know
The Religion of Islam is backed by facts from the Quran and Hadiths.
You should Pray for your Dead ones but dont Gather and Fix loudspeakers, eat, drink and sing praises
No one said you should do that its Bid’a
Nothing different from a Typical Igbo Burial.
Its Bid’a
The Prophet (SAW) never gathered his companions for Any Fida,u or Whatever

Stop saying jargons on what you don't know. How come praying for our dead loved ones turned to Bidia?

AbuTwins:
Are you a Muslim?

Probably you benefit from the bid'ah of eating at burials too. They share you money!

But a bid'ah is Bid'ah! It is all misguidance that leads to hell!

So do you mean the prophet didn't pray for his demised children or wife? So what did he do to them?
So the say he buried them he stopped offering prayer to them?

When the Quran right said that we Muslim should not forget our dead ones like some other faith...

Rashduct4luv:
You should show us where the Prophet you follow performed fidau on his kids that died or others from his wives or companions that died!

You are the one required to bring the evidence that Fidau has any good and show us how the Prophet did it.

It is established in Islam to perform bath for a deceased Muslim and to bury them. Show us the evidence for Fidau, how did the Prophet did it? When did he do it? What was recited? Did he "Ganu si" like those Alfas?

Fidau prayer is never a bidia and doesn't stopped in Yoruba land alone. Make your findings very well and stop saying what Allah S.W.T didn't say in the holy Quran.

Has Shariah court in Zamfara correct the corruption of Ahmed Yerima that brought Shariah to Nigeria ? What has Shariah panel did to the illegal miners mining the gold in Zamfara that created bandits killing both the Muslims and the non Muslim in the state?

Ojuntana:
Is shariah not meant to correct corruption?
What is the essence of a religious law that's subject to human whims

Yes, I have a stone brain just like your uncles.

tanigororo:
I still don't understand if you have a stone 🪨 brain, or you lack comprehension of simple English.
It's a Panel for Muslims using Islamic laws and rules to pass judgement.

Yes, a well ventilated place.... Natural breeze.

Newgoodkk:
Thanks So Much Sir, SonIt must be in a Well Ventilated Place . Natural Breeze Right