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Where in the Torah did God say HE will send HIS only Son to be nailed to the cross?

MaxInDHouse:
Where did God give Adam, Eve, Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph ten commandments?🥱

You are the one who continues to argue aimlessly, just because you are looking for gullible people to deceive with your invented son of God.

Where in the Torah did God say HE will send HIS only Son to be nailed to the cross?

MaxInDHouse:
So you don't even know that the promise of this seed has been there all along before the birth of Abraham?
See what you are arguing blindly about:


And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.” ‭Genesis 3:15 NIV‬

Who is the offspring of the woman that's coming to crush Satan's head?

Na wah for you o all because the churches of Christendom caused confusion you have chosen to continue arguing aimlessly against something that's as simple as ABC.

You keep on talking about Ten Commandment what about those who lived before the Ten Commandment?
Didn't they serve God acceptably before then?🙂

Where did God tell Abraham, that God will send HIS only Son?
You need to just humbly yourself and ask me to teach you.

Genesis 22:18 — All nations blessed through Abraham
“And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
— Genesis 22:18 (KJV)

MaxInDHouse:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. ‭John 3:16 NIV‬

If you don't understand something just humbly ask!🥱

MaxInDHouse:
So who is the seed through whom all the nations will be blessed?🥱

Not your Jesus as he only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5–6 — Jesus tells his disciples not to go to Gentiles
“Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
— Matthew 10:5–6 (KJV)

Also your YHWH of Israel only sent Jesus Christ of Israel to the house of Israel and not to Gentiles.

Matthew 10:5–6 — Jesus tells his disciples not to go to Gentiles
“Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
— Matthew 10:5–6 (KJV)

Matthew 10:5–6 — Jesus tells his disciples not to go to Gentiles
“Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
— Matthew 10:5–6 (KJV)

Genesis 22:18 — All nations blessed through Abraham
“And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
— Genesis 22:18 (KJV)

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote where the God of Abraham said the laws given to the Israelites is meant for all the nations?

Come on my guy, when God gave the Israelites those laws it's because He has proved to be there God and fought for them to secure that place that is why He has the authority to give them such rules. But today each nation has their own man-made rules so for the God of Abraham to unite all these nations as one the laws given to only one nation who came out of one man won't work of course that is why you can't present any organization or group of people practicing those laws today!🥱

God gave the The 10 Commandments simple, not parables. Any one teaching in parables is only allowing gullible people to be deceived. From that passage Jesus was testing the rich man to see if he was gullible enough to sell all he has an give to the poor, because Jesus first said to the man you know the commandments. And from your own account his disciples did not do such but left theirs for their family to look after while they followed Jesus.

The 10 Commandments
1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make or worship idols.
3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
4. Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
5. Honour your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
10.You shall not covet what belongs to your neighbour.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what i'm saying that you don't understand what Jesus meant because none of his disciples sold their belongings to anyone. There were rich disciples of Jesus in the Bible he never told them to go selling their belongings.
Cornelius was a wealthy man the Apostles didn't tell him Jesus said he should sell all his belongings.

I don't know why you're just here arguing blindly!🥱

You are the one arguing blindly!🥱. So your Jesus has one rule for some and another rule for others. Is like you going from house to house in Ogun State telling gullible people to sell all they have and give to the poor, but when you get to Obasanjo's house and other politicians, you tell them they can keep all what they have. Are you not a hypocrite for doing so.

Those that turned away from Jesus are very sensible as The God of the Original Torah has given us the 10 Commandments which has all we need.

And in 70 CE The Romans destroyed Jerusalem too.

In 70 CE, during the First Jewish–Roman War, Roman forces under Titus besieged Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple. The event was a major turning point in Jewish history and the history of the city.

MaxInDHouse:
So when you leave your business for your family you've left your belongings to the poor shey?🥱

If you were the one asking Jesus the same does that means leaving your business for your family, means you've left your belongings to the poor shey?🥱

You not understanding the passage is the reason for your blind arguments!

For his disciples to say that they left all they had to follow him just after he told the man to sell all he had, shows the disciples have done something even more as they did not even have the time to sell all they had to follow him, but just left all they had for the poor.

MaxInDHouse:
So if i've never met Jesus what about you o?🥱

Ọmọ what you assumed is that Jesus commanded his disciples to sell everything they own and i told you such assumption is wrong because the Bible listed the names of his disciples and not one of them sold everything they had yet all the promises he made to them as assurance that they have been approved for being his followers were fulfilled in the Bible.

So claiming Jesus said his disciples should LITERALLY sell everything they had is blind arguments!🥱

God has already included none Israelites in HIS Salvation by sending Jonah to preach repentance to the wicked in Nineveh. God did not tell the people of Nineveh that their salvation will come later by drinking the blood and eating the flesh of a man called Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
So when i tell you that you don't understand what Jesus is saying stop arguing blindly!🥱

You are not Jesus and you never met him so you are the one arguing blindly!🥱

God gave the Israelites the 10 Commandments simple. God never told the Israelites to drink the blood and eat the flesh of a man to come called Jesus.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make or worship idols.
3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
4. Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
5. Honour your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
10.You shall not covet what belongs to your neighbour.

Better to run away from any from anyone saying this today or two thousand years ago, whether they meant for real or literarily, still sounds the same so it was wise of the other disciples to walk away.

John 6:
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

God gave the Israelites the 10 Commandments simple. God never told the Israelites to drink the blood and eat the flesh of a man to come called Jesus.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
2. You shall not make or worship idols.
3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
4. Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
5. Honour your father and your mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
10.You shall not covet what belongs to your neighbour.

God has already included none Israelites in HIS Salvation by sending Jonah to preach repentance to the wicked in of Nineveh. God did not tell the people of Nineveh that their salvation will come later by drinking the blood and eating the flesh of a man called Jesus.

That's wisdom from the serpent in the Garden of Eden that deceived Eve.

Better to run away from any from anyone saying this today or two thousand years ago, whether they meant for real or literarily, still sounds the same so it was wise of the other disciples to walk away.

John 6:
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

But whether Jesus meant this for real or literarily, still sounds the same so it was wise of the other disciples to walk away.

John 6:
53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

Jesus always gives an answer if the don't understand:

27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife e or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

Jesus used a real bread and wine. But to sell all and give to the poor He meant it literally.

So of what use are all of Jesus teachings if they are not to be taken literally?

The Rich and the Kingdom of God

16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18“Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “ ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19honor your father and mother,’ c and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’”

20“ All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife e or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

So you can read the mind of Jesus. Then of what use are all His teachings and commandments written in black and white if they mean something else?

Then it's one rule for the apostles and another for the followers.

Meaning the apostles did not even have the time to go and sell all they had, so they just left everything to follower Jesus.

Matthew 19
Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

Mark 10:21 — “One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.”

If you say it's a SIN then also sell all you have as Jesus has commanded.

Matthew 19:21 — “Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.”
Mark 10:21 — “One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.”
Luke 18:22 — “Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.”

StoryHaven:
Masturbation is a SIN.

Jesus said "even if you lust after a woman in your heart, you have sinned,"

This is a question I asked years back on a Christian whatsapp group and people shy away from it.

This is the way I put it,

IS MASTUBATING WITH THE IMAGE OF YOUR WIFE OR HUSBAND WHO IS AWAY ON A JOURNEY OR RESIDES FAR AWAY A SIN?

A friend who is a pastor replied that any form of masturbation is a sin.

If it is, then, how does a lonely husband or wife staying away from their spouse relieve themselves when they have the urge.
Abi. Is it not natural to have the urge for sex when your spouse is away?

I THINK THIS IS WHY GOD SAID WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE. WE SHOULD LEAVE ALL JUDGMENT TO HIM.

WHAT DO YOU THINK.