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Earth2Metahuman:
use your tongue to count your teeth loser.

swerve

deomello:
Meaningless and thoughtless rubbish, just like your thoughtless, meaningless and rubbish thread.

Simple property of metal you cant remember. Empty brain. E pain am.

Earth2Metahuman:
what a mor0n ..

He thinks game of throne is a movie script?

Why do we have so many brain dead mor0n amongst flat heads?

Did you come to make raucous or to exihibit scallywaggy attitude?

Ozid:
Broda stop unnecessary comparison. Achebe and Soyinka are two different writer with different literary styles. While Achebe is more successful in African literature Soyinka has been able to combine both African and western style of writing perfectly well and to me that was what earned him the Nobel laureate award.

You didnt answer my question

LordOfNaira:
Harry Potter has sold over a million copies and yet Rowling doesn't come close to Soyinka.

Nobel Prize is not awarded based on the popularity of a single book but on the depth of the writer's works. That is why popular best selling authors like Stephen King, Rowling and many others may never even be considered for the Nobel Prize.

Let me ask you a question, how many books by Nobel Prize winners do you know or that are popular?

If william shakespeare were alive dont you think he deserves a prize?

deomello:
The one and the only reason why you people can not and won't progress is the fact you people are saddled and preoccupied with low self-esteem, the need to see hatred and competition where it doesn't exist and also vain and meaningless sense of superiority when in fact realities on the ground says no.


The fact that you always have to beat your chest and remind other people that you are better than other people means you are not because like they say, empty calabash makes the most noise.

if you had sat in class you would know that only metals have lustre property.

Earth2Metahuman:
like I told one ediot on the other thread, if its by writing a best selling story, george RR matin (the writer of game of thrones) woulda won it two times in a roll if that is possible.

I think smart igbos shouldn't leave thing in the hand of these mor0ns who keep crawling out of shitty holes ever day.

If you were smart enough you would know we arent talking of movies or scripts

LordOfNaira:
I am disappointed at you!!!

Soyinka was a better writer than Achebe. His play "Lion and the Jewel" was revered even by the whites who never expected that an African could have such a command of English Language. Soyinka had published many plays including a Play of Giants that won many awards. The book "Ake" believed to have influenced his winning the Nobel Prize was a masterpiece. He was at the apex of the drama world and was once president of the international drama society. He was more of a playwright than a novelist. His novels (The Interpreters and Season of Anomy) are only popular in the PhD classes but his plays are popular in and around the world. For a man who has taught in Harvard, it is disrespectful of you to refer to his achievement as a fraud. For your information, and with all due respect, Achebe was only known to have lectured in a college abroad.

Another thing you must understand is that names on nominations of a Nobel Prize for Literature are not open to the public until after 50 years. You cannot see the 1986 nomination until after 50 years so how did you know Achebe was on the list?

Another thing you must understand is that prior to the 1986 Nobel Prize, Achebe's novel list and work was pretty small. He had just five novels, three children's book, two poetry collections and an essay collection while Soyinka had over fifteen plays, two novels, three poetry collections, an autobiography and essay collections.

And lastly, most Nobel Prize winners are obscure. Their books are hardly popular. Talk of Gordimer, Mahfouz, Toni Morrison, William Golding (except Lord of the Flies), Ernest Hemingway, etc.

Still non supersede Things fall apart

Again, can you compare those authors to William Shakespeare?

Olabestonic001:
You guys are false logic; haba, you're really suffering ooooooo! Don't you know that Wole Soyinka is more of a Play writer while Chinua is a great African story teller? Must every thing really be seen in your jaundiced view? Is that not sign of gross insanity? Haba, You've not really read any of Soyinka's play such as 'Trial of Brother Jero', 'Lion and the Jewel', 'Ake, the year of Childhood' etc. They are classic Playwrights. As for the indefatigable Chinua, he is a legend at Africa illustrative writings. He's such a genius. But know this today; Politics is in every human endeavor! Chinua was the propaganda minister of the defunct Biafra, he became more secluded after the Civil War and he never recovered his image due to that faceoff. That could be another angle to his denial of a Nobel Prize. But, his denial does not affect the brilliancy of Wole Soyinka. They are parallel cases.
Pls, its always too foolish to attempt to bring a system down just to argue your points. You could have stated that Chinua deserved the Nobel Prize without trying to foolishly discredit Soyinka. Its like saying Eto'o didn't deserve the Africa Footballer of the year he won because Okocha never won it. That's poor argument and a disservice to sound discourse.

Olabestonic001:
You guys are false logic; haba, you're really suffering ooooooo! Don't you know that Wole Soyinka is more of a Play writer while Chinua is a great African story teller? Must every thing really be seen in your jaundiced view? Is that not sign of gross insanity? Haba, You've not really read any of Soyinka's play such as 'Trial of Brother Jero', 'Lion and the Jewel', 'Ake, the year of Childhood' etc. They are classic Playwrights. As for the indefatigable Chinua, he is a legend at Africa illustrative writings. He's such a genius. But know this today; Politics is in every human endeavor! Chinua was the propaganda minister of the defunct Biafra, he became more secluded after the Civil War and he never recovered his image due to that faceoff. That could be another angle to his denial of a Nobel Prize. But, his denial does not affect the brilliancy of Wole Soyinka. They are parallel cases.
Pls, its always too foolish to attempt to bring a system down just to argue your points. You could have stated that Chinua deserved the Nobel Prize without trying to foolishly discredit Soyinka. Its like saying Eto'o didn't deserve the Africa Footballer of the year he won because Okocha never won it. That's poor argument and a disservice to sound discourse.

Out of those three books you mentioned I only know of one, that is how unpopular Wole Soyinka is (he is just overhyped by yoruba controlled media), Chinua Achebe was robbed in broad daylight by politics and "yorubas are the most educated tribe". If you read my OP you would notice that I didnt write Wole off, I graded him with Chimamanda Adiche. With all sincerity, Wole soyinka isnt up to half of Chinua Achebe.

seunmsg:
Truly, ipobs always cry! It's in their DNA to cry and play the victim card always. Everybody is against them. Even the Noble committee denied Achebe the Noble price because he's Ibo.

If Achebe gets to read this thread, he will curse the OP from his grave for bringing ridicule to his name.

Oduduwa must be gnashing his teeth at this nonsense you wrote from where he is.

YonkijiSappo:
That is not google search mumu,
That is from Nobelprice.org

The website of the Nobel institutin itself
https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/
(lists all the nobel winners for literature, and their strong points/reasons why)

Jealousy Is truly a disease.

Answer the question. Stop dodging.

Ozid:
Recommendation in what sense? Are you saying Wole Soyinka wasn't recommended for such prestigious award? When you talk about African novels/proverb you will give it to Achebe but if you're talking about the blending of both African culture with d western literary style, Wole Soyinka is that African writer that combines both together.

Give me one of his books that outweighs Things Fall Apart.

YonkijiSappo:
Kontinuee wallowing in your Jealousy!

Soyinka was a wonderful Novelist, a prolific poet and a Talented Playwright
All in one...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2863/33258264104_335250147c_b.jpg

I asked a simple question and you began to give me google search?

papparatzzi2013:
The wheel chair writer from the land of red mud never achieved what Soyinka and no one from your gully eroded land can.

Bunch of hateful set of people They hate everything and anything. I am not sure they do not even hate God Himself.

E pain am

YonkijiSappo:
Kontinuee wallowing in your Jealousy!

If you asking a simple and logical question is termed jelousy, then afonjas need to go back to school because free education didnt cover that.

Ozid:
Broda no be Nigeria dey give am the award o. So how do politics come to play? Despite the fact that I respect Chinua Achebe sometimes the way you guys hype him someone will think he is better than Shakespeare.

There what is called recommendation.

YonkijiSappo:
All I see is ......

If you wont answer the question then swerve.

Saecula:
@Op,
what even brought this issue cos the man has been silent lately?

An argument from https://www.nairaland.com/3745332/no-us-study-ever-said/2

YonkijiSappo:
Jealousy.. is the root of all hatred...

Answer the question from the excerpt

In my opinion, if an individual were to be given such an elevated award he must have been at the apex of the field of study. If this is taken into due consideration by those who would question the veracity of this article, then, can such person tell the public which of Wole Soyinka's phantom books outshines Chinua Achebe's Things fall apart, Anthill of the savannah, Arrow of God, No longer at ease, There was a country in terms of sales and ratings

The Nobel prize for literature won by Wole Soyinka can no doubt be classified as a monumental fraud, obtained by string pulling and sentiments.

As you may know, the famous writer and arguably the father of modern literature in the person of Chinua Achebe, of blessed memories, was on the nomination list for the Nobel prize that year and was denied him by politics and overhyping of less deserving contender, Wole Soyinka.

In my opinion, if an individual were to be given such an elevated award he must have been at the apex of the field of study. If this is taken into due consideration by those who would question the veracity of this article, then, can such person tell the public which of Wole Soyinka's phantom books outshines Chinua Achebe's Things fall apart, Anthill of the savannah, Arrow of God, No longer at ease, There was a country in terms of sales and ratings. Most of Chinua Achebe's book have international accolades with best seller and all there is. At best, Wole Soyinka's works can be compared to those of Ngozi Chimamanda Adiche, an eloquent writer, best known for her books: "Purple hibiscus" and "Half of a yellow sun".