MaxInDHouse: So Jesus and Pharisees were also looking at matters from the 6 and 9 position shey?
Yes, Jesus and Pharisees absolutely were also looking at matters from the 6 and 9 position
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Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Michael547: Don't mind him...he is confused. He does not know that man with his body is a soul that is different from spirit. That is where his confusion is.
Man with his body is a soul? Lol. Confused people.
Man is actually a soul that inhabits a body. The body can be terrestrial or celestial depending on the realm the man is.
Michael547: Does Genesis 2:7 say that soul was put inside Adam's body?
NNTR: Ezekiel 18:20a The soul that sinneth, it shall die:...
After moulding the body of man, read Genesis 2:7 to see that it was after when God breathed into the man's nostrils, the breath of life, also known as ruach or spirit, that man became a living soul.
What you won't ever be able unwriggle from nor understand, is that, man is tripartite, and hence is distinct from all the rest of creation, including the animals, just like the - snakes, snails, hares, turtles, bats, fishes etc you mentioned, in that, it is only man who is made in the image of the Godhead and according to likeness of the Godhead
Also, it is the soul of man/woman, that will give an account of him/herself to God. It is not the animals, just like the - snakes, snails, hares, turtles, bats, fishes etc you mentioned, that will give an account of him/herself to God because it was not animals who committed sin from eating of the forbidden fruit.
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
NNTR: The soul (i.e. you) is created out, that which is not visible.
The soul part that you are, is unable to be physically touched or felt. It has a physical presence proxy by the flesh or body. The soul, meaning in essence, you, came from thing(s) not seen.
The body, your flesh, is just a dirt suit made up of dust, hence why when the spirit, the ruach aka wind, aka life-force, aka breath of God expires in you, you die, you slump and drop dead, then at the end, your body or flesh returns back to earth
You are soul, you are the soul. You, the soul, was made out of things not seen with the naked eyes. Your dirt suit, the body or flesh is not you, but your soul, is you, you are soul.
It is you, your soul, that will give account of yourself on Judgment Day
After death, meaning after transiting from the land of the living, you, meaning you the soul, go to a waiting area, similarly to the lounge seating areas in airport. You stay there, awaiting Judgment Day, then upon giving a verdict, you get to board a flight to an appropriate destination
You're soul. The soul is you, and vice versa, meaning what you are, is soul, you are the soul.
Essentially, you are a soul, housed in a body made up from dust and made animated with a life-force, which is ruach aka spirit aka pneuma or also known as, the breath of God. So, in short, your beingness, you, are a soul
Sheol, is the Hebrew word for grave. Physically its wherever the body is buried et cetera, metaphysically speaking, it has two sections, where souls are temporarily 'interned'
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Michael547 beloved & GothamCities beloved, youse are both right depending on the perspective youse are looking from
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Jokerman: Please what happened to souls that died without knowing or seeing Jesus.
When God was on earth, incarnated as Jesus Christ, multitude knew and saw Him, so what is going to happen to anyone is the same thing that will happen to everyone, whether you know or see Jesus dont matter, because each and every single soul (i.e. everyone) on the Last Day aka Day of Judgment, will know and see Jesus, those dead will be resurrected, and there will be a final judgment for everyone
NNTR: 3 John 1:2 Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers.
When a person dies, the body returns to dust, the spirit also known as ruach or breadth returns to God, then last but not least, the soul, goes to a holding place which either could the rich man side of Sheol or the the Lazarus side of Sheol otherwise known as Abraham's bosom, long since upgraded and already known as paradise
Since you want to use 'mind, body and soul' then please answer the following questions about mind, body and soul then
What is mind and list what are its faculties? What is body and list what are its faculties? What is soul and list what are its faculties?
After death what happens to the mind and where does it end? After death what happens to the body and where does it end? After death what happens to the soul and where does it end?
Hebrews 9:27 And just as it is appointed and destined for all men to die once and after this [comes certain] judgment,
Revelation 20:13-15 13The sea gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were judged according to their deeds. 14Then death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death. 15And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.
Matthew 25:41,46 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: …
Yeah thats right, the end of man from after the grave is Matthew 25:41,46 everlasting fire
John 3:16-21 16“For this is how God loved the world: He gave His one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. 17God sent His Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through Him. 18“There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in Him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. 19And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants
It often said that, the Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, while the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed.
How many deaths are possible? Number and list them
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: The Tripartite Being by NNTR: 10:01pm On Nov 28, 2021
Jokerman: Are they in hell, heaven or still in Hades?
There is no human being in Heaven yet Hades and Hell are synonyms for Gehenna aka the incinerator site at Jerusalem in biblical times
See answers in the post immediately above yours
I was invited by Acehart to participate with my 2 cents
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Michael547: Below in the screenshot is Phillipians 3:19. The meaning of the Greek word for God is also explained in the screenshot below.
So please who is the God in Hebrews 1:9, and who is the God anointing?
Michael547 beloved, I careless of screenshot, sign posts and whatnot, all I expect from you simply is state in your own words, all you understand what the word(s), God and/or god means.
In the absence of you being original (i.e. I am not after other people's idea, thought or mind but yours), then this will be my last interacting post with you
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Michael547: So if the name in heaven was Father, Son and Holy Spirit, why is one called Father and the other called Son?
Why is your earthly dad, called, daddy/father, also your same earthly daddy/father is called son and even equally still, your same earthly daddy/father has a spirit that often is made mention of. Hmm?
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Michael547: If the God in Hebrews 1:8 refers to Jesus the son of God,
I am more than ready and wiling to immediately give reply and with examples, to your 'who is the God that is anointing in Hebrews 1:9, and who is this person that is being anointed?' question(s), after you to the best of your understanding and considerable knowledge, dignify me please with the sum of what God and/or god means, in the context of Hebrews 1:8-9? (i.e. leave no stone unturned)
Thank you in advance for your humble, honest, mature and sincere answer
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Janosky: Please open the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible at Psalms 45:6 & Hebrews 1:8 and realize the folly of your claims. You have been deceived by the Trinitarian rendition of Hebrew 1:8. This fact was exposed in the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible.
I am sure you know that the Godhead is not restricted to the Trinitarian limit, so with that said, please for the moment, put on one side your new found love of Catholic New Jerusalem Bible at Psalms 45:6 & Hebrews 1:8, and now to the best of your understanding and considerable knowledge, dignify me please the sum of what God and/or god means in the context of Hebrews 1:8-9? (i.e. leave no stone unturned)
Thank you in advance for your humble, honest, mature and sincere answer
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
So you rather aim for the leg or foot and kick them, as opposed play and kick the ball, hmm?
Brenbentondiaz: (or maybe you're trying to be clever by half)
Suspect you've just stumbled on the phrase '... trying to be clever by half ...' as you soon will continue to use it
Brenbentondiaz: How is "O God" the same as "My God"? God called Jesus God (the capitalisation of the G is just a distinction that a person like you that wants to push the narrative that Jesus is Almighty God can also insert), but He also talked about humans as "ye are gods" in the book of Psalm. So, it won't be strange that He called Jesus "God", too. But did He call Jesus "My God" as Jesus said of Him? And now, back to the scripture you quoted. This is how you guys quote scriptures selectively to push your unscriptural narrative. This is the complete text below: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Heb 1:8-9). I can see you "forgot" to add where the same scripture said His (Jesus) God had anointed Him (Jesus) above His fellows (at the bolded). Lolz.
To the best of your understanding and considerable knowledge, dignify me please the sum of what God and/or god means in the context of Hebrews 1:8-9? (i.e. leave no stone unturned)
Thank you in advance for your humble, honest, mature and sincere answer
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Brenbentondiaz: OK. Jesus called God "My God" in the gospels, and about 3 times He said same in Revelations 3.
Could you pls find anywhere in the scriptures where Jehovah God called Jesus Christ or anybody "My God"? Thanks.
Hebrews 1:8 But about the Son [the Father says to Him], “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE SCEPTER OF [absolute] RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.
It becomes easy to comprehend once the noun God and/or god, is realised that it equates to Influence/influence and/or Influence/influencer, and then easily get when is who influencing who and when
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Kingsnairaland: What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"?
What did Jesus mean when he said, "My Father is greater than I"? Let's give a biblical explanation. First, we won't use the weak explanation that Jesus was simply talking about His flesh nature or human nature. That is a weak explanation to use. We are going to use the word of God in the Bible to explain it.
John 14:28 (New King James Version) says, "You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I."
What did Jesus mean by that? Simple. He tells you in the previous chapter. The servant is not greater than his lord. He that is sent is not greater than him that sent him. You see this scenario? This is exactly how we are going to figure out exactly what Jesus meant.
Now, let me ask you. Is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Remember, the servant is not greater than his lord. Or is He greater than Him that sent Him? So I will ask you again, is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord?
Now, what did Jesus say before? John 13:13 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am."
You call Me master and lord, and you say well, because that is what I am. But wait a minute. Jesus also said, "The servant is not greater than his lord." So is Jesus the servant or is Jesus the lord? Answer: Yes. He's both.
But how do we know this? It's below in Philippians 2:6-8 (King James Bible), which says, "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."
But made himself of no reputation and took upon the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of man. The servant is not greater than his lord. Neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
Now that we've established that, guess what? If Jesus is both the servant and the lord, guess what? Then He is also the one that was sent and the one that sent Himself. Glory! Yes. God can send Himself. I don't see why people find that so weird.
Because this is not the first time God has done it. Psalm 104:30 (New King James Version) says, "You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the earth."
In Psalm 104:30, God sent His Holy Spirit, which is His Spirit, and accomplished what He wanted. And the Holy Spirit is God Himself; He is the Spirit of God Himself.
Psalm 107:20 (New International Version) says, "He sent out his word and healed them; he rescued them from the grave." King James Bible says, "He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions."
So, John 1:1 tells us who the Word is that delivered us from the grave. The Word is Jesus Himself.
But why did Jesus describe Himself as a servant? Why did Jesus describe Himself as someone that was sent? John 13:13-16 (New King James Version) says, "You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am. If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you."
It's simple. He tells you in between the two verses that I originally gave you. For I have given you an example that you should do as I have done to you. And what example was this? But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
And who are we supposed to serve exactly? And whosoever of you will be the chiefest shall be servant of all. That's right. If you want to be the greatest among all the disciples, you have to be the servant of all. Not just the servant, but one that serves.
That is the example that He gave us. For even the Son of Man came not to be ministered unto but to minister and to give His life a ransom for many.
The Father is greater than I. He's not talking about a different person. Or is He talking about a lower state?
Answer That statement is there to show us the example that He left us.
And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be brought down, and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted
Glory Bread Of Christ Power Church Pastor Kingsley Nigeria..
Absolutely 150% correct, albeit, unfortunately, the Greek word, 'morphē', hasn't an English exact equivalent, what the word conveys in that Philippians 2:6 context, is Jesus already existed in the form of God, as in meaning, the character of God (i.e. having all the the mental and moral qualities that are distinctive to God or what God is known for)
John 14:12-18 '12I assure you and most solemnly say to you, anyone who believes in Me [as Savior] will also do the things that I do; and he will do even greater things than these [in extent and outreach], because I am going to the Father. 13And I will do whatever you ask in My name [as My representative], this I will do, so that the Father may be glorified and celebrated in the Son. 14If you ask Me anything in My name [as My representative], I will do it. 15“If you [really] love Me, you will keep and obey My commandments. 16And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper (Comforter, Advocate, Intercessor--Counselor, Strengthener, Standby), to be with you forever-- 17the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive [and take to its heart] because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He (the Holy Spirit) remains with you continually and will be in you. 18“I will not leave you as orphans [comfortless, bereaved, and helpless]; I will come [back] to you'
Absolutely 150% correct, as sons are subservient to the Father. 1.) Arent you subject to your father? 2.) Arent you obedient to your father? 3.) Why would you think that Jesus should be exempted from this rule? 4.) Why would you think that Jesus should be a law on to Himself, hmm? 5.) How do you reconcile John 14:16 (i.e. I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper) and John 14:18 (i.e. I will not leave you as orphans [comfortless, bereaved, and helpless]; I will come [back] to you), as in, who is that in John 14:16 and John 14:18?
Anyway, the word “greater” spoken of in John 14:28, is describing role, as in the function played in formulating the salvation, redemption and reconciliation plan and is not talking about essence or importance.
The Son ran an errand for the Father, carried out the wishes, the intent, the plan et cetera of the Father and went back to give the Father the update
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
NNTR: John 1:3 '1In the beginning was the one, who is called the Word. The Word was with God and was truly God. 2From the very beginning, the Word was with God. 3And with this Word, God created all things. Nothing was made without the Word. Everything that was created'
The Word created all things, while Jesus existed 4000 years after being projected out from God
God in the beginning was. God existed long before we were all created. God participated in making all other things. God lived in heaven before coming down, as Jesus, to earth.
All sons are distinct from their fathers, so Jesus isnt an exception to this rule. God is not a law breaker, meaning God conforms to this rule or standard too.
Jesus, is a distinct person from God, the Father, who in this instance and even context, is the one true Begetter, or Paterfamilias of Jesus
Fathers are always held in higher esteem than their sons, so dont expect Jesus to go against the grain, meaning dont expect Him not toe the line, in this respect, nor be surprised that He Himself said, the Father is greater than Him (i.e. John 14:28)
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Jesus simply stated a statement of fact (i.e. the truth about the matter)
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Myprayercity: Genesis 37:18-36 New Living Translation Joseph Sold into Slavery 18 When Joseph’s brothers saw him coming, they recognized him in the distance. As he approached, they made plans to kill him. 19 “Here comes the dreamer!” they said. 20 “Come on, let’s kill him and throw him into one of these cisterns. We can tell our father, ‘A wild animal has eaten him.’ Then we’ll see what becomes of his dreams!”
21 But when Reuben heard of their scheme, he came to Joseph’s rescue. “Let’s not kill him,” he said. 22 “Why should we shed any blood? Let’s just throw him into this empty cistern here in the wilderness. Then he’ll die without our laying a hand on him.” Reuben was secretly planning to rescue Joseph and return him to his father.
23 So when Joseph arrived, his brothers ripped off the beautiful robe he was wearing. 24 Then they grabbed him and threw him into the cistern. Now the cistern was empty; there was no water in it. 25 Then, just as they were sitting down to eat, they looked up and saw a caravan of camels in the distance coming toward them. It was a group of Ishmaelite traders taking a load of gum, balm, and aromatic resin from Gilead down to Egypt.
26 Judah said to his brothers, “What will we gain by killing our brother? We’d have to cover up the crime.[a] 27 Instead of hurting him, let’s sell him to those Ishmaelite traders. After all, he is our brother—our own flesh and blood!” And his brothers agreed. 28 So when the Ishmaelites, who were Midianite traders, came by, Joseph’s brothers pulled him out of the cistern and sold him to them for twenty pieces[b] of silver. And the traders took him to Egypt.
29 Some time later, Reuben returned to get Joseph out of the cistern. When he discovered that Joseph was missing, he tore his clothes in grief. 30 Then he went back to his brothers and lamented, “The boy is gone! What will I do now?”
31 Then the brothers killed a young goat and dipped Joseph’s robe in its blood. 32 They sent the beautiful robe to their father with this message: “Look at what we found. Doesn’t this robe belong to your son?”
33 Their father recognized it immediately. “Yes,” he said, “it is my son’s robe. A wild animal must have eaten him. Joseph has clearly been torn to pieces!” 34 Then Jacob tore his clothes and dressed himself in burlap. He mourned deeply for his son for a long time. 35 His family all tried to comfort him, but he refused to be comforted. “I will go to my grave[c] mourning for my son,” he would say, and then he would weep.
36 Meanwhile, the Midianite traders[d] arrived in Egypt, where they sold Joseph to Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, the king of Egypt. Potiphar was captain of the palace guard.
Yes, we know the story of how Joseph was sold into slavery
There was a divine method to not only Joseph's slavery madness but also to Israel's as a nation, slavery madness, who incidentally started out as Israel, a freeborn man
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Iwillbeback: Genesis 2:4-3:24 New International Version Adam and Eve 7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.” 24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh. 25 Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
Yes, among many things, we know, as a fact that, that Adam naturally had a reddish brown human skin colour and Eve naturally had a black human skin colour
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Iwillbeback: Genesis 4 King James Version 4 1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord. 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. 6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. 8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. 9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? 10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. 11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; 12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. 13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. 16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech. 19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah. 23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. 24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. 25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.
Yes, do know Cain And Abel to be brothers, but in fact, what is commonly unknown to most, is that, Cain and Abel are twins, unusual twins, actually they were
Now, Genesis 4:8 onwards, setting a stage for the serious degeneration debasement of mankind that would in Genesis 6 unfold, is snapshot knowledge and insight into how Cain further rebelled, then how Cain's descendants introduced arts & craft, music, weaponry, husbandry, polygamy, bragged about murdering and lastly, soon after Seth's son was born, tells how growing disrespect to the name of the Lord began to be done by men
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
BigTolulope: Matthew 27:46: "Around the ninth hour, Jesus shouted in a loud voice, saying 'Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?' which is, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?'"
Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 actually are the fourth words Yahshua spoke while dying on the cross.
Yahshua chose His word very carefully and didnt speak impetuously when He used the all important decisive "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani" words, which as a matter of fact, He, actually was paraphrasing, the beginning of Psalm 22 (i.e. Psalm 22:1a), just like He paraphrased the end of Psalm 22 (i.e. Psalm 22:31b) with His 6th words (i.e. John 19:30 - It is finished (or "It is accomplished''))
'Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani' never means 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?', (i.e. the latter, is a mistranslation)
Now, Luke 23:46 with 'Father, into your hands I commit my spirit' were the last dying words Yahsua spoke whilst hung on the cross, and after He had said those famous last & final words, He then went on to yield His spirit and gave up the ghost
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Elohimisgood: Just that Qahal is more broader than Edah.
Exodus 12:6 You must keep it until the fourteenth day of the month, when the whole assembly (i.e. qahal aka ekklesia or ecclesia; call out ones) of the congregation (i.e. edah) of Israel will slaughter the animals at twilight.
I give you and can live with your 'Qahal is broader than Edah' comment
Elohimisgood: Your personal text saying "Jesus is God is wrong"
Nothing wrong in My Personal text states: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
1/ Are you saying its hard for God aka YHWH pka Yahweh to transmogrify into Yahshua aka Jesus 2/ Are you saying its hard, impossible and even saying God's hasnt got the power, ability, capability and know-how to be in heaven and on earth at the same time (i.e. be in heaven and earth simultaneously or concurrently)
Elohimisgood: It should rather be Yehoshua is the Son of Elohim or Yehoshua is Elohim.
Which of the two here (i.e. Yehoshua is the Son of Elohim or Yehoshua is Elohim) are you sticking to please
Elohimisgood: Yehoshua is the name he answered when he was on earth. Years later it's shortened 2 Yeshua.
Matthew 1:21 She will give birth to a Son, and you shall name Him Jesus (i.e. meaning The LORD is salvation, hence Yahshua or Yehoshua), for He will save His people from their sins.”
Elohimisgood: Yehoshua and Yeshua mean two different things-
Tell anything about both (i.e. Yehoshua and Yeshua), that I dont already know
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Exodus 12:3 Tell all the congregation of Israel, ‘ On the tenth [day] of this month they are to take a lamb or young goat for themselves, according to [the size of] the household of which he is the father, a lamb or young goat for each household.
Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - 1577 (ekklesia): Often translated as "church" or "assembly," (i.e. called out for an assembly) this Greek term carries a similar meaning of a called-out community or congregation, particularly in the New Testament context.
Qahal isnt neccessarily, nor in the real sense, the hebrew word for church! Might be today for you!, but historically speaking would be 'edah' (i.e. transliteration) with an 'ay-DAW' pronunciation
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
16 Nov 2024 YouTuber turned boxer Jake Paul defeated Mike Tyson by unanimous decision on Friday night at AT&T Stadium in Arlington.
Yeah, I almost didnt want to finish watching the highlights because soon found out that Tyson was a shadow of himself and that age defo has caught up on him I think for him it was strategic tactic (i.e. dont get hurt, dont get knocked down or knocked out), also, its 20 milla easy money, he's a family man, has a loving & beautiful wife, so no wonder he kept guarding his chin.
Shame we saw none of that his Trevor Berbick fight trademark style ferocious ducking and diving head movement weaving and swinging about moves
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
chieveboy: May be we should really begin to question how the main and genuine event which happened at the Pentecost today degenerated to what it is today, where the main 'Signs' that accompanied that event is totally replaced with the employment of the negative power.
The three different and only times that the bible recorded people speaking in tongues (i.e. speaking in a different language or dialect as it were) were as follows: 1/ In the upper room, with Jewish pilgrims in attendance witnessing the disciples speaking in diverse & different dialects (i.e. Acts 2) 2/ In Cornelius house, with Jewish believers in attendance witnessing Cornelius' household speaking in a different language (i.e. Acts 10) 3/ At Ephesus, with 12 disciples of John the Baptist (i.e. Acts 19)
The whole objective of each and every one of these three occasions is for obtaining repentance & bring about acceptance
Now, the spiritual gift of speaking in tongue, simply is one out of the nine evidences of having the gift of the Holy Spirit, but its only a penterascal, who wouldnt know that this gift actually, is at the lower end rung of the hierarchy of spiritual gifts.
When prophecy and speaking in tongues, are placed together, as in, put side by side for comparison, the gift of prophecy, is much more preferred than the gift of speaking in tongues (i.e. check out 1 Corinthians 14:5a)
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
chieveboy: 'Speaking in Tongues' is supposedly a means or the act of "speaking mysteries in the spirit realms" according to the users, which is supposed to be a sort of "advanced prayer".
Speaking in tongues, in its simplest form, is an activity of giving a clear and understandable speech in a coherent human being language
I am sure in a delusional way would have done it before
chieveboy: The process of speaking in tongues is an effort to emulate or remake the original event of the 'Pentecost' which is a traditional Jewish event to celebrate the harvests.
Why leave out emulate or remake the forked or cloven tongues as of fire hovering over head
chieveboy: This went different for a handful of folks who followed Yeshua (Jesus), and they saw some strange manifestations, one of which was that they strangely understood the language of the others and equally spoke them.
All the three different occasions that speaking of tongues took place happened to exclusively only to Jews (e.g. pilgrim Jews, sectarian Jews, doubtful Jews) and was to state and make known to them the good news aka gospel et cetera
chieveboy: Here things you may for once wake up to and probably stop doing simply because it doesn't make sense :
1: Consider Buddhist chants, Eckist chants, Islamic etc. as the worship of devil or an invitation to them.
This includes and is not limited to Chants like HU, OM, Mana, etc.
Here's a thing you may for once wake up to and probably stop doing simply because it doesn't make sense:
1: Tongues, (i.e. the gloried and/or counterfeit incantations type) that snare unsuspecting believers with their learned false speaking in tongues deception and bad indoctrination that will lead to the lake of fire.
2: It is only some, lazy and indoctrinated Far-To-See (i.e. Pharisees) and Sad-To-See (i.e. Sadducees) somebody, looking for lesser praying effort, that believes praying or speaking in tongues, especially with using the voice and/or vocal cords, is praying in some mysterious heavenly language. This is shameless lazy and cutting corners manoeuvres praying things.
3: It is delusion and make believe, uttering gibberish and nonsensical noise, alternating between varying high voice pitches. When people are lazy to articulate their prayers, they resort to this quick fix alternate method to pray. I wonder why Jesus never employed this method, of 'speaking in tongues' if it really was that potent
chieveboy: 2: You do not want to label any religion devilish.
You want to call a spade, a spade, that it is, and not call a spade, a fork
Simply embrace or try out any of those Sounds and Chants.
This is what you should do instead especially if you speak in tongues.
Revelation 16:13-14 13An evil spirit that looked like a frog came out of the mouth of the dragon. One also came out of the mouth of the beast, and another out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14These evil spirits had the power to work miracles. They went to every king on earth, to bring them together for a war against God All-Powerful. But that will be the day of God's great victory.
Yes playing out in plain sight is the end time deception of the demonic spirit.
Where Revelation 16:13-14, is symbolised as three impure, unclean, loathsome evil spirits, that looked like frogs. Now, here's a question for you. How do frogs catch their prey? Of course, yes, by using tongues to snare believers with coveted false speaking in tongues deception
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
MuttleyLaff: Freeze is not and has not said anything that hasnt for years been discussed here on the Religion forum Posters over the years, have talked over thoroughly, this tithe topic, All in order to reach all, so all reach a good decision and/or better understanding of giving, of which views or arguments put forward concerning taxed, obligatory or imposition tithe no longer holds water
Offerings are OT old school things and Jesus Christ has given the ultimate offering saving you from having to give any other You actually give contribution(s) or donation(s) is what you correctly do Of course freely giving works for anyone
Freeze is not anti-tithe, same way, he is not opposed to the law of gravity Freeze' crusade is not anti-tithe but is a crusade against the exploitation of people in the guise of tithe
SMH. Except for proving you're becoming good at making gaffes after gaffes you've proved nada that Jesus wants us to give much more even up to 100% of what we have
If you have intimate knowledge of Jesus' modus operandi, you wouldnt be using that single incident as a one-size-fits-all approach for every believer
It is to commendable for Pastor G O Enoch Adeboye to admit a fundamental biblical error he used to fiercely perpetuate and command straight up 10% or ten percent payment of income aka tithe
This title lie certainly has run itself to death at Pastor G O Enoch Adeboye foot
A lie has speed but truth, surely has endurance.
I want to thank the following champions on this forum who crusaded against how inappropriate ecclesiastical tithing is enforced
The seeds of the following lone voices in the tithe wilderness, have not being in vain and this fruit, is a testament to that Big up to: WinsomeX, DrummaBoy, trustman, BabaGnoni, PastorKun, nuclearboy, JeSoul, Enigma, OkCornel
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
jaephoenix: Where in this post was any anti-slavery posture seen?
I dont follow you, so please advise: 1. How you mean 'Where in this post was any anti-slavery posture seen?' 2. Which post in reference are you asking? 3. Whose post n reference are you asking? 4. Where in scripture do you see God ordains slavery (i.e. as claimed by OP on the thread 's subject heading title) or ever ordained slavery please?
Think carefully before answering question #4 please and even give same question #4, deep & extra thought before putting forward pretext bible verse(s) to base your opinion on
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
MrPresident1: Slavery is forever. When one side is in power, the other side is in slavery, and when this side returns to power, the other side become slaves
Isaiah 14:2
1 Corinthians 13:13 Three things will last forever —faith, hope, and love —and the greatest of these is love.
Your nescience caused you to type unwisely that slavery is forever
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
jaephoenix: Ok, so in other words, Yahweh doesn't want to change the norms for slavery, but decides to change the norms for other vices. Thanks for your explanations
Mark 10:5 But Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of hearts [your callousness and insensitivity toward your wives and the provision of God] he wrote you this precept. (i.e. “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied)
Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted divorce only as a concession to your hard hearts, but it was not what God had originally intended.
Beloved, just because everybody did/does slavery, didnt/doesnt mean slavery's right nor does it mean that, God had slavery originally intended or planned.
Now, my right honourable gentleman, it will be very, very intellectually dishonest of you, to try to take away the credit from God, that God came on board the slavery scene, by proxy Moses, not to negatively ordain slavery, but to sanitise, humanise and moralise slavery, and all trioundisputedly donewith specific and unequivocally reforms
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
NNTR: “Amazing Grace! How sweet the sound that saved a wretch/wreck like me. I once was lost, but now am found was blind, but now I see.” - Hymn of John Newton, former slave owner, reformed slave owner, regenerated soul aka born again or born of the Spirit even born from on high
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
The heavily redacted 'Select parts of the Holy Bible:for the use of negro slaves, in the British West-India Islands' bible aka 'Slave Bible' readily comes to mind
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
“Amazing Grace! How sweet the sound that saved a wretch/wreck like me. I once was lost, but now am found was blind, but now I see.” - Hymn of John Newton, former slave owner, reformed slave owner, regenerated soul aka born again or born of the Spirit even born from on high
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
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