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Christianity EtcRe: Position Of Jesus In Islam by oderinde11(op): 8:06pm On Nov 13, 2014
Hiswordxray:
Since you know the Bible so well why not explain these verses.
Philippines 2:6-7 "Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained, But stripped Himself [of all privileges and rightful dignity], so as to assume the guise of a servant (slave), in that He became like men and was born a human being."

Do you tell yourself that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, so that you would be scared of going to hell if the Christians are right about Jesus?
Hiswordxray:
Since you know the Bible so well why not explain these verses.
Philippines 2:6-7 "Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained, But stripped Himself [of all privileges and rightful dignity], so as to assume the guise of a servant (slave), in that He became like men and was born a human being."
Do you tell yourself that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, so that you would be scared of going to hell if the Christians are right about Jesus?
Hiswordxray:
Since you know the Bible so well why not explain these verses.
Philippines 2:6-7 "Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained, But stripped Himself [of all privileges and rightful dignity], so as to assume the guise of a servant (slave), in that He became like men and was born a human being."

Do you tell yourself that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, so that you would be scared of going to hell if the Christians are right about Jesus?
Pls go ask ur pastor about jesus word and paul statement the word is frm paul who know nothing about jesus
Christianity EtcPosition Of Jesus In Islam by oderinde11(op): 9:34am On Nov 13, 2014
I) Position of Jesus (pbuh) in Islam:
(i)Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it
an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim
is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).
(ii) We believe that he was one of the mightiest
Messengers of Allah (swt).
(iii) We believe that he was born miraculously, without
any male intervention, which many modern day
Christians do not believe.
(iv) We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ
(pbuh).
(v) We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s
permission.
(iv) We believe that he healed those born blind, and the
lepers with God’s permission.
II) Concept of God in Christianity:
1. Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity
One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and
respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of
ways? The major difference between Islam and
Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the
supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the
Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never
claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single
unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus
(pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says,
"worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements
attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite
the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are
attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):
(i) "My Father is greater than I."
[The Bible, John 14:28]
(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]
(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]
(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
[The Bible, Luke 11:20]
(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I
judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not
my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent
me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]
2. The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) – to Fulfill the Law
Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He
clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus
(pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic
law. This is clearly evident in the following statements
attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the
Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For
verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot
or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be
fulfilled.
"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least
commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be
called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but
whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be
called great in the kingdom of heaven."
"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness
shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and
Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of
heaven."
[The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]
3. God Sent Jesus' (pbuh)
The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus
(pbuh) mission in the following verses:
(i)"… and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the
Father’s which sent me."
[The Bible, John 14:24]
(ii)"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has
sent."
[The Bible, John 17:3]
4. Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his
Divinity
Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:
"And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good
Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have
eternal life?’
And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good?
There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt
enter into life, keep the commandments.’ "
[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]
Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of
paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God
or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh)
would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the
path to salvation was through keeping the
commandments. It is indeed striking to note the
difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh)
and the Christian dogma of salvation through the
sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).
5. Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God
The following statement from the Bible supports the
Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.
"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth,
a man approved of God among you by miracles and
wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst
of you, as ye yourselves also know."
[The Bible, Acts 2:22]
6. The First Commandment is that God is One
The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity
at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to
which was the first commandment of all, to which
Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had
said earlier:
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."
This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:
"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."
[The Bible, Mark 12:29]
It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such
as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in
the Bible. In fact, various verses of the Bible point to
Jesus’ (pbuh) actual mission, which was to fulfill the
law revealed to Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus
(pbuh) rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity
to him, and explained his miracles as the power of the
One True God.
Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of
monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of
Almighty God.
NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the
King James Version.
III) Concept of God in Old Testament:
1. God is One
The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy
contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad".
It is a Hebrew quotation which means:
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]
2. Unity of God in the Book of Isaiah
The following verses are from the Book of Isaiah:
(i) "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no
saviour."
[The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]
(ii) "I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God
besides me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 45:5]
(iii) "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and
there is none like me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 46:9]
3. Old Testament condemns idol worship
(i) Old Testament condemns idol worship in the
following verses:
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or
any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or
that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
under the earth:"
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve
them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God."
[The Bible, Exodus 20:3-5]
(ii) A similar message is repeated in the book of
Deuteronomy:
"Thou shalt have none other gods before me."
"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any
likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that in
the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath the
earth."
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve
them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God."
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 5:7-9]
PoliticsAjimobi Inaugurates Biggest Automated Edible Oil Refinery In Ibadan by oderinde11(op): 11:47am On Nov 08, 2014
Ajimobi inaugurates biggest edible oil refinery in Ibadan
#harvestofpeace
Governor Abiola Ajimobi of Oyo State on Friday
inaugurated the biggest automated edible oil refinery
and margarine company in Sub-Saharan Africa in
Ibadan, with a pledge that his administration would
continue to do all within its powers to ensure that the
state continued to be the preferred destination of
investors in Nigeria.
The firm, Rom Oil Mills Limited, a subsidiary company of
Flour Mills of Nigeria Plc, is expected to refine crude palm
kernel oil, crude palm oil and crude soybean oil into
refined oil and distilled fatty acids.
Speaking at the ceremony, Governor Ajimobi said that
the effect of the employment generation that the
company would give the people of the state was his own
idea of stomach infrastructure.
``This, indeed, is our idea of the so-called stomach
infrastructure. We thank the management of the
company for their implicit trust and confidence in our
state. You have indeed vindicated our stance,’’ he said.
The governor added that the cumulative effects of his
administration’s developmental drive and consequent
influx of investors into our state would result in
employment generation and empowerment of the
people which, he said, would positively impact millions
of our people, as ``it is the best and most dignifying
stomach infrastructure ever’’.
Ajimobi said the establishment of the firm, a-400 metric
tonnes per day universal refinery, was another testimony
to his administration’s leadership and “investors-bait
ing” policies.
He described the development as the dividends of the
peaceful atmosphere which his administration brought
back to the state at its inception as well as the enabling
environment which had been attracting foreign
investment, stressing that the management of the
company would never have invested their billions of
naira in a violent-prone and dirty Oyo State of the past.
The governor, while stating that thousands of the sons
and daughters of the state would be employed by the
company, added that this would have multiplier effects
on over a million of their dependants.
Governor Ajimobi expressed satisfaction with the rate at
which investors had been trooping to the state, stating
that ``Oyo State boasts of the presence of a leading
soya milk manufacturing company in Nigeria, the largest
bread-making factory West Africa, the Number One day-
old chicks agricultural company in Nigeria, the biggest
support service provider for the telecoms industry in
Nigeria, among others.
``If you add the largest Shoprite outlet in West Africa
that has been recently sited in our state, you will
understand how a secured and peaceful atmosphere, as
well as an environmentally-conducive state, is essential
for employment-generation and indeed, the economic
development of the people.
``Add all these to the rebirth of night life in the capital
city, as manifest in the many hospitality industries that
have sprung up in the nooks and crannies of Oyo State,
you will realize why development experts say that peace
and security are the foundation of any society,’’ he said..
The governor said that his vision was based on removing
the state from the unpleasant profile of a backward,
violent state that drove away investors.
Speaking at the occasion, the Minister of Agriculture, Dr.
Akinwumi Adesina commended the agricultural agenda
of the Ajimobi administration, stressing that the
governor had done a lot to assist farmers in the state,
especially in the provision of tractors and other farm
implements.
He also said that the federal government had distributed
351,000 high quality palm seedlings to farmers in the
state, thanking the governor for ensuring that the
seedlings got to the end users.
PoliticsA Lesson For Nigerians by oderinde11(op): 10:25am On Nov 08, 2014
A LESSON FOR ALL NIGERIANS
Mubi, the biggest commercial town in Adamawa state,
was thrown into chaos the day Boko Haram descended
on them and the people found themselves running for
their lives. The terrorists shot sporadically, killing a lot of
people while those who could escape jumped into any
available car to run to safety. Christians, Muslims, Igbos,
Yorubas, Tivs, Hausas and any tribe or religion, jumped
onto any vehicle that was headed outside the town.
Soldiers scampered onto trucks with civilians, begging to
be saved, hundreds of people who could not get a
vehicle ran into the hills. In their frantic effort to stay
alive, no one paid attention to anybody's religion or
ethnicity before asking them for help or helping them to
stay alive. It was a community of people, united by their
desire to escape the common enemy that hunted them
all without discrimination. Ethnicity and religion
vanished, all they were left with was their humanity.
Those climbing the hills stayed together, helping one
another stay on their feet as they all tried to survive.
The most interesting part of the narrative is that the
Chief of Defence Staff, Air Marshal Badeh is from the
same town of Mubi. It has been reported that few hours
before the attack, helicopters flew in and evacuated his
family members from the town. The chief of Defence
staff by the way, is the most senior military officer in
Nigeria and he controls the army, navy and air force.
Before that sad day, someone from Mubi would have
boasted that the Chief of Defence Staff is from their
home town. But on the day that it mattered the most, he
evacuated only his family members and abandoned
everyone else to their fate. It means he had information
of the impending attack and as the most senior military
commander, he did not fly into the town to lead his men
to battle to defend his community. He quietly saved only
his family and left even the soldiers without an inspiring
commander to motivate them to engage the terrorists
and defend his community.
One lesson all Nigerians must learn from this story is
that as a people, all we have is our neighbours. When
you need some help at home, you knock on the door of
your neighbour. The president, governor, senator or
minister is not there to help you. Why then should you
continue to fight your neighbour because of a man or
woman who cares only about his own family? Our elites
may deceive us about sharing the same religion or
ethnicity with us, but time and again, they have proven
that they do not care. We have been fools, killing one
another on the basis of religion and ethnicity while they
stay united across all the divides and plunder our wealth.
The time has come for us to rise, educate one another
and unite to fight our biggest common enemy. The
politicians are our enemies and not the poor struggling
men and women in our neighbourhoods.
What now will the people of Mubi boast about as the
gain of having their son as the chief of Defence Staff? If
you go to Otueke where Jonathan comes from, there are
many people who live in excruciating poverty! There is
still a lot of poverty and suffering in the home towns of
all our governors, ministers, parliamentarians and
former presidents, while they and their families live in
scandalous affluence. The minister of petroleum spent
over 10 billion Naira on a private jet. That money can
end the poverty of several communities in her state.
Stella Oduah bought two cars with 120 million Naira
while there are people in her home town who can't
afford 500 Naira to feed their family in a day. The time to
throw away the sentiments is now! Support only a man
or woman who has a just heart and will serve everyone
and every community regardless of if they come from
there or not. The moment anyone begins to talk to you
about religion or ethnicity, reject him summarily! We
need leaders who will unite us because our shared
humanity is greater than any differences between us.
And if someone does something wrong or fails in
governance, do not support them simply because
they're your own.
Christianity EtcRe: Age Of Aisha At Time Of Marriage by oderinde11(op): 12:30pm On Nov 06, 2014
THE BIBLE on marriage of young girls with much older men As it is Christian evangelists and
other believers in the Bible who have been bitterly reviling the Holy Prophet Muhammad on account of his marriage with Aisha, we put to them the practices of the great patriarchs and prophets that are recorded in the Bible itself in this connection.
The main accusations regarding the marriage of Aisha are that she was too young in age while the
Holy Prophet was a much older man, being fifty years of age, and that consent to marriage was
either not obtained from her or she was not capable of giving it.
Abraham
In the book of Genesis in the Bibleit is recorded about Abraham:“Now Sarai, Abram’s wife,had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian
maidservant named Hagar; so she said to Abram, ‘TheLord has kept me fromhaving children. Go, sleepwith my maidservant;perhaps I can build a familythrough her.’ Abram agreed
to what Sarai said. So afterAbram had been living in
Canaan ten years, Sarai hiswife took her Egyptian
maidservant Hagar and gaveher to her husband to be hiswife. He slept with Hagar,and she conceived. … So Hagar bore Abram a son, and Abram gave the name Ishmael to the son she had borne. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar
bore him Ishmael.” (Genesis,chapter 16, verses 1–4, and 15–16, New InternationalVersion. Bolding is mine.)Firstly, it is evident that asAbraham (who then had the nameAbram) was 86 years old, Hagar
must have been some fifty years younger than him, and probably even younger, to bear a child.
Secondly, the Bible speaks of Sarai giving her maidservant Hagar to Abraham. So Hagar’s
consent was not obtained but rather she was commanded by Sarai to go and become
Abraham’s wife.
David
The first book of Kings in the Bible begins as follows: “When King David was old and well advanced in years, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. So his servants
said to him, ‘Let us look for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.’ Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and
brought her to the king. The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no intimate relations with her.” (1 Kings, chapter 1, verses 1–4, New International Version. Bolding is mine.) So there seems nothing wrong, according to the Bible, in procuring a young virgin, again apparently without her consent,
whose duties include lying with the elderly king in bed. The intention was certainly for sexual
enjoyment, otherwise there was no necessity of looking for a young, beautiful virgin. A much
older woman, perhaps a widow, could have performed all these duties, including lying with the
king to keep him warm. Mary and Joseph
The most famous marriage in Christianity is no doubt that of Mary, Jesus’ mother, with Joseph.
While the following details are not in the canonical Gospels in the Bible, it appears from other early
Christian writings (known as apocryphal writings) that Mary was twelve years old when the
temple elders decided to find a husband for her. They selected the husband by drawing lots, and
Joseph whom they chose was an elderly man, being according to some accounts ninety years old.
The husband was selected and Mary was handed over to him, and she played no part in his
selection. These accounts are summed up in the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913 edition, which is available online,
as follows:
“It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are,the lengthy stories
concerning St. Joseph’s marriage contained in the
apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children … A year after his wife’s death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of
Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was
at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem
among the candidates; a miracle manifested the
choice God had made of Joseph …” [13] (Bolding is
mine.) Although these apocryphal accounts are not now accepted by many Christians, and the Catholic
Encyclopedia says that they “are void of authority”, yet it also speaks of their influence as
follows: “they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some
ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-
known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of the Lord’s brothers; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all
probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.”However, these accounts are
accepted by the Eastern churches. The website of the Ukrainian Orthodoxy has an article on this
subject entitled An Elderly Joseph which agrees with the presentation in the apocryphal writings “of Joseph as an elderlyman, a widower with adult
children”. It concludes: “The Christian East’s picture of Joseph as a courageous,
faithful, God-centred elderly widower rings true.” [14] We give below, as Appendix, a
quotation from one of these apocryphal books, The Infancy Gospel of James, describing how Mary’s husband was selected. While the Western Christian
churches may not accept these accounts as authentic, the Eastern churches in Europe do
accept that Mary was 12 years old and Joseph a widower 90 years old when they married. Moreover,
there is nothing in the Gospels of the New Testament to contradict these accounts, and the Gospel stories are not at all inconsistent with these ages for Mary and Joseph.
Christianity EtcAge Of Aisha At Time Of Marriage by oderinde11(op): 12:15pm On Nov 06, 2014
Age of Aisha at time of
marriage with Holy
Prophet Muhammad
It is believed on the authority of
some Hadith reports that the
marriage ceremony (known as
nikah, amounting to betrothal) of
Aisha with the Holy Prophet
Muhammad took place when she
was six years of age, and that she
joined the Holy Prophet as his wife
three years later at the age of
nine. We quote below from two
such reports in Bukhari.
“It is reported from Aisha
that she said: The Prophet
entered into marriage with
me when I was a girl of six …
and at the time [of joining
his household] I was a girl of
nine years of age.”
“Khadija died three years
before the Prophet departed
to Medina. He stayed [alone]
for two years or so. He
married Aisha when she was
a girl of six years of age, and
he consummated that
marriage when she was nine
years old.” [3]
As to the authenticity of these
reports, it may be noted that the
compilers of the books of Hadith
did not apply the same stringent
tests when accepting reports
relating to historical matters as
they did before accepting reports
relating to the practical teachings
and laws of Islam. The reason is
that the former type of report was
regarded as merely of academic
interest while the latter type of
report had a direct bearing on the
practical duties of a Muslim and
on what was allowed to them and
what was prohibited. Thus the
occurrence of reports such as the
above about the marriage of
Aisha in books of Hadith, even in
Bukhari, is not necessarily a proof
of their credibility.
Determination of the
true age of Aisha
It appears that Maulana
Muhammad Ali was the first
Islamic scholar directly to
challenge the notion that Aisha
was aged six and nine,
respectively, at the time of her
nikah and consummation of
marriage. This he did in, at least,
the following writings: his English
booklet Prophet of Islam, his
larger English book Muhammad,
the Prophet, and in the footnotes
in his voluminous Urdu translation
and commentary of Sahih Bukhari
entitled Fadl-ul-Bari, these three
writings being published in the
1920s and 1930s. In the booklet
Prophet of Islam, which was later
incorporated in 1948 as the first
chapter of his book Living
Thoughts of the Prophet
Muhammad, he writes in a lengthy
footnote as follows:
“A great misconception
prevails as to the age at
which Aisha was taken in
marriage by the Prophet. Ibn
Sa‘d has stated in the
Tabaqat that when Abu Bakr
[father of Aisha] was
approached on behalf of the
Holy Prophet, he replied that
the girl had already been
betrothed to Jubair, and that
he would have to settle the
matter first with him. This
shows that Aisha must have
been approaching majority
at the time. Again, the Isaba,
speaking of the Prophet’s
daughter Fatima, says that
she was born five years
before the Call and was
about five years older than
Aisha. This shows that Aisha
must have been about ten
years at the time of her
betrothal to the Prophet, and
not six years as she is
generally supposed to be.
This is further borne out by
the fact that Aisha herself is
reported to have stated that
when the chapter [of the
Holy Quran] entitled The
Moon, the fifty-fourth
chapter, was revealed, she
was a girl playing about and
remembered certain verses
then revealed. Now the fifty-
fourth chapter was
undoubtedly revealed before
the sixth year of the Call. All
these considerations point
to but one conclusion, viz.,
that Aisha could not have
been less than ten years of
age at the time of her nikah,
which was virtually only a
betrothal. And there is one
report in the Tabaqat that
Aisha was nine years of age
at the time of nikah. Again it
is a fact admitted on all
hands that the nikah of
Aisha took place in the tenth
year of the Call in the month
of Shawwal, while there is
also preponderance of
evidence as to the
consummation of her
marriage taking place in the
second year of Hijra in the
same month, which shows
that full five years had
elapsed between the nikah
and the consummation.
Hence there is not the least
doubt that Aisha was at
least nine or ten years of
age at the time of betrothal,
and fourteen or fifteen years
at the time of marriage.” [4]
(Bolding is mine.)
To facilitate understanding dates
of these events, please note that
it was in the tenth year of the Call,
i.e. the tenth year after the Holy
Prophet Muhammad received his
calling from God to his mission of
prophethood, that his wife Khadija
passed away, and the approach
was made to Abu Bakr for the
hand of his daughter Aisha. The
hijra or emigration of the Holy
Prophet to Madina took place
three years later, and Aisha came
to the household of the Holy
Prophet in the second year after
hijra. So if Aisha was born in the
year of the Call, she would be ten
years old at the time of the nikah
and fifteen years old at the time
of the consummation of the
marriage.
Later research
Research subsequent to the time
of Maulana Muhammad Ali has
shown that she was older than
this. An excellent short work
presenting such evidence is the
Urdu pamphlet Rukhsati kai waqt
Sayyida Aisha Siddiqa ki umar
(‘The age of Lady Aisha at the
time of the start of her married
life’) by Abu Tahir Irfani. [4a] Points
1 to 3 below have been brought
to light in this pamphlet.
1. The famous classical historian
of Islam, Ibn Jarir Tabari, wrote in
his ‘History’:
“In the time before Islam,
Abu Bakr married two
women. The first was Fatila
daughter of Abdul Uzza,
from whom Abdullah and
Asma were born. Then he
married Umm Ruman, from
whom Abdur Rahman and
Aisha were born. These four
were born before Islam.” [5]
Being born before Islam means
being born before the Call.
2. The compiler of the famous
Hadith collection Mishkat al-
Masabih, Imam Wali-ud-Din
Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-
Khatib, who died 700 years ago,
has also written brief biographical
notes on the narrators of Hadith
reports. He writes under Asma,
the older daughter of Abu Bakr:
“She was the sister of Aisha
Siddiqa, wife of the Holy
Prophet, and was ten years
older than her. … In 73 A.H.
… Asma died at the age of
one hundred years.” [6]
(Go here to see an image of
the full entry in Urdu.)
This would make Asma 28 years
of age in 1 A.H., the year of the
Hijra, thus making Aisha 18 years
old in 1 A.H. So Aisha would be 19
years old at the time of the
consummation of her marriage,
and 14 or 15 years old at the time
of her nikah. It would place her
year of birth at four or five years
before the Call.
3. The same statement is made
by the famous classical
commentator of the Holy Quran,
Ibn Kathir, in his book Al-bidayya
wal-nihaya:
“Asma died in 73 A.H. at the
age of one hundred years.
She was ten years older than
her sister Aisha.” [7]
Apart from these three evidences,
which are presented in the Urdu
pamphlet referred to above, we
also note that the birth of Aisha
being a little before the Call is
consistent with the opening words
of a statement by her which is
recorded four times in Bukhari.
Those words are as follows:
“Ever since I can remember
(or understand things) my
parents were following the
religion of Islam.” [8]
This is tantamount to saying that
she was born sometime before
her parents accepted Islam but
she can only remember them
practising Islam. No doubt she
and her parents knew well
whether she was born before or
after they accepted Islam, as their
acceptance of Islam was such a
landmark event in their life which
took place just after the Holy
Prophet received his mission from
God. If she had been born after
they accepted Islam it would
make no sense for her to say that
she always remembered them as
following Islam. Only if she was
born before they accepted Islam,
would it make sense for her to say
that she can only remember them
being Muslims, as she was too
young to remember things before
their conversion. This is consistent
with her being born before the
Call, and being perhaps four or
five years old at the time of the
Call, which was also almost the
time when her parents accepted
Islam.
Two further evidences
cited by Maulana
Muhammad Ali
In the footnotes of his Urdu
translation and commentary of
Sahih Bukhari, entitled Fadl-ul-
Bari, Maulana Muhammad Ali had
pointed out reports of two events
which show that Aisha could not
have been born later than the
year of the Call. These are as
follows.
1. The above mentioned
statement by Aisha in Bukhari,
about her earliest memory of her
parents being that they were
followers of Islam, begins with the
following words in its version in
Bukhari’s Kitab-ul-Kafalat. We
quote this from the English
translation of Bukhari by M.
Muhsin Khan:
“Since I reached the age
when I could remember
things, I have seen my
parents worshipping
according to the right faith of
Islam. Not a single day
passed but Allah’s Apostle
visited us both in the
morning and in the evening.
When the Muslims were
persecuted, Abu Bakr set out
for Ethiopia as an emigrant.”
[9]
Commenting on this report,
Maulana Muhammad Ali writes:
“This report sheds some
light on the question of the
age of Aisha. … The mention
of the persecution of
Muslims along with the
emigration to Ethiopia
clearly shows that this refers
to the fifth or the sixth year
of the Call. … At that time
Aisha was of an age to
discern things, and so her
birth could not have been
later than the first year of
the Call.” [10]
Again, this would make her more
than fourteen at the time of the
consummation of her marriage.
2. There is a report in Sahih
Bukhari as follows:
“On the day (of the battle) of
Uhud when (some) people
retreated and left the
Prophet, I saw Aisha
daughter of Abu Bakr and
Umm Sulaim, with their
robes tucked up so that the
bangles around their ankles
were visible hurrying with
their water skins (in another
narration it is said, ‘carrying
the water skins on their
backs’). Then they would
pour the water in the mouths
of the people, and return to
fill the water skins again and
came back again to pour
water in the mouths of the
people.” [11]
Maulana Muhammad Ali writes in
a footnote under this report:
“It should also be noted that
Aisha joined the Holy
Prophet’s household only
one year before the battle of
Uhud. According to the
common view she would be
only ten years of age at this
time, which is certainly not a
suitable age for the work she
did on this occasion. This
also shows that she was not
so young at this time.” [12]
If, as shown in the previous
section above, Aisha was
nineteen at the time of the
consummation of her marriage,
then she would be twenty years
old at the time of the battle of
Uhud. It may be added that on the
earlier occasion of the battle of
Badr when some Muslim youths
tried, out of eagerness, to go
along with the Muslim army to the
field of battle, the Holy Prophet
Muhammad sent them back on
account of their young age
(allowing only one such
youngster, Umair ibn Abi Waqqas,
to accompany his older brother
the famous Companion Sa‘d ibn
Abi Waqqas). It seems, therefore,
highly unlikely that if Aisha was
ten years old the Holy Prophet
would have allowed her to
accompany the army to the field
of battle.
We conclude from all the
evidence cited above that Aisha
(may Allah be pleased with her)
was nineteen years old when she
joined the Holy Prophet as his wife
in the year 2 A.H., the nikah or
betrothal having taken place five
years previously.
PoliticsEL- Rufai Formally Declare For Governorship Race by oderinde11(op): 9:09pm On Nov 04, 2014
El-Rufai’s governorship ambition in Kaduna state in
2015 elections.
Muhammadu Buhari and Nasir El Rufai in Kaduna
Speaking at the El-Rufai’s public declaration, Buhari,
who addressed the audience said the people of the
state needs El-Rufai to rescue the state from bad
leadership and decay,.
Buhari said “I am here to ask deliberately for your
support for El-Rufai, he is the right man to fix Kaduna
right. He is courageous and has what it takes to
perform. He is the solution to your problems; you need
sincere and competent leaders like him.”
El-Rufai in his address said, “I consulted widely with
people –from traditional rulers, respected elders and
public officials that can speak out, as well as ordinary
people who have no voice but rely on someone to
speak for them. My purpose was to listen to the people
and understand what they wanted from the state
government and how the government and the people
can work together to develop our state.
“To say that I was shocked by the level of neglect is an
understatement.
Our road networks have fallen into disrepair; our
schools have no basic teaching and learning tools; our
teachers are not motivated; our hospitals and clinics
lack essential resources to mitigate the challenges of
healthcare and our civil servants are not being
sufficiently motivated.
Poverty has become worse; unemployment has
become more pervasive; agricultural productivity has
declined; internally generated revenues are too low to
even pay salaries. The picture is indeed very bleak.”
Below is his full speech:
Kaduna Will Be Great Again
Speech delivered by Malam Nasir Ahmad El-Rufai on
November 3rd, 2014 at his Formal Declaration to Run
for Governor of Kaduna State
Protocols:
My Dear People of Kaduna State,
Over the last few months, I have traversed all the 23
local government areas in Kaduna State and visited
tens of communities. Some of the places I visited were
so remote, isolated and cut off from government that
it would have been difficult to believe that they were
part of Kaduna State.
I consulted widely with people –from traditional rulers,
respected elders and public officials that can speak
out, as well as ordinary people who have no voice but
rely on someone to speak for them. My purpose was to
listen to the people and understand what they wanted
from the state government and how the government
and the people can work together to develop our
state.
To say that I was shocked by the level of neglect is an
understatement. Our road networks have fallen into
disrepair; our schools have no basic teaching and
learning tools; our teachers are not motivated; our
hospitals and clinics lack essential resources to
mitigate the challenges of healthcare and our civil
servants are not being sufficiently motivated. Poverty
has become worse; unemployment has become more
pervasive; agricultural productivity has declined;
internally generated revenues are too low to even pay
salaries. The picture is indeed very bleak.
Kaduna State, which used to be known for its
industries, now barely has flourishing or profitable
factories.. Even basic sanitation is absent because
Kaduna and most of our local government area
headquarters are being overtaken by garbage.
What I saw in the course of my visits and consultations
and what both leading politicians and the people told
me further reaffirmed my commitment to the decision
I made to devote the rest of my life to public service as
a way of giving back to the community; to working
with my brothers and sisters across Kaduna State and
beyond to uplift our state; to building a united state;
driving out poverty and making Kaduna the first
among equals in Nigeria.
Ladies and gentleman, we must move Kaduna State
from a state where people live in mutual suspicion;
where few people feel safe or secure and where
nothing gets done. It is disheartening that Kaduna
State which used to be a melting pot of religions,
cultures and industry has become a battlefield of
ethnic and religious divisions due to incessant
conflicts, denial of opportunities and relentless
narrowing of the space for political freedom and
expression. We now have a state where a small self-
centered clique controls the state’s resources while
the generality of Kaduna people are excluded from
political and economic opportunities.
Today, our state is littered with uncompleted projects,
discarded plans and broken promises.
But we are too good for that; the people of Kaduna
state are too educated, too talented and too crucial to
Nigeria to remain under the current state of poor
leadership and lack of direction. We need to come
together, overcome the politics of division and
harness our energies around a cause that would lift us
out of the quagmire of political division and economic
inertia.
As we are today, who can tell me what has been done
with the hundreds of billions of naira that Kaduna
State has received from the federation account in the
last seven years or so? What old projects have been
completed? What new ones have been initiated? What
plans are in place for the future? Indeed, do we even
have a future in Kaduna State under the current
administration?
Evidently, the answer is NO!
Ladies and gentlemen, we cannot deny that the
stagnation in Kaduna State at present is mainly
because the goodwill of the people and our resources
are being mismanaged.
However, we will not, and must not allow the
incompetence of the current PDP government to drag
us down. The reign of underdevelopment and
incompetence must be ended immediately. Kaduna
State is more important than one small clique that
seeks to hold us to ransom and stunt our prospects.
We must rise to the challenge, come together and
take our destiny in our hands.
That means we must first make conscious efforts by
ourselves. My dear people of Kaduna State, what can
we do to improve our circumstances? Can we continue
to watch nonchalantly as a few individuals destroy our
state and mortgage the future of our children?
The people of Kaduna state have the power to bring
about meaningful change. We have the power to free
our state from corruption, greed, nepotism and
incompetence. That power is guaranteed in your right
to vote. And that power must be used judiciously to
throw out the gross incompetence being
demonstrated by those in authority today. That power
is what we must use in 2015 to elect leaders that have
the desire and will to move Kaduna State to the path
of unity, peace, progress and prosperity.
Today, I stand before you to offer a hand of
brotherhood and partnership in the mission to make
Kaduna State great again. Let’s work together, man,
woman, child, old and young; in the journey to knock
down ethnic and religious divisions. I ask you to join
me to chase out poverty forever; I ask you to join to
build our state and make Kaduna great again.
The question is, what does Nasir El-Rufai have to offer
Kaduna State?
As I told my brothers in FadanKagoma a few weeks
ago, my vision for Kaduna State is to provide true
public service with fairness, equity and justice, and on
responsive and sensitive leadership to take the state
to another level. I am deeply committed to the peace,
development and unity of Kaduna State, and our APC
administration will show equal concern for the interest
of every person that is resident in our state.
Kaduna state is dear to me. I was educated in this
state, from primary school to university. After
graduation, I practiced my profession here in Kaduna
for 15 years before I accepted responsibility to serve in
the public sector. I appreciate our problems and
together with our party leaders at ward, local
government and state levels, we will run a responsible
and participatory government.
Ladies and gentlemen, whether you are a Muslim or
Christian; whether you are Hausa, Adara, Fulani, Bajju,
Atyap, Ggagyi, Jaba or any of the numerous ethnic
groups in the mini-Nigeria that is Kaduna State, I urge
every one of our nearly eight million people to join me
in the mission to make Kaduna State first among
equals.
One thing that I promise to bring to the office of the
Governor of Kaduna State is experience, both from the
private and public sectors. In all my different
engagements in the public and private sectors, I have
always successfully carried out any task assigned to
me. When I was given the task of restoring order to the
chaos that was creeping into Abuja, not many people
gave me the chance of succeeding, yet with the
support of committed civil servants and political
appointees, we did. Our record in Abuja shows
teamwork can lead to phenomenal results.
In Abuja we constructed needed infrastructure,
promoted transparency and due process. More than
27,000 Nigerians became landowners without having
to bribe or lobby any official. All they did was to have
complied with the land-application process. Many
more - over 30,000 Nigerians - were able to buy
homes by similarly complying with the rules for the
purchase of government houses in Abuja.
We all can agree that Kaduna State must change for
the better. If we really want change in the state, we
must recognize agents of change and appreciate their
vision, mission and courage to deliver. I urge you all to
look at the current disorder in Kaduna State, and ask
yourselves: Who has the courage, capacity and
competence to clean up the mess?
I believe the APC can and will deliver that change. I am
confident that our APC Kaduna Team represented
here, and backed by our ideological leader, General
MuhammaduBuhari, can provide the leadership to lift
Kaduna State out of the debt, despair and
despondency that the ruling party has thrown us into.
We will not shy away from taking difficult decisions as
long as the people of Kaduna State agree that it is for
the good of all. For us in Kaduna State therefore, 2015
will be a defining moment. For those worrying about
the demolitions that took place in Abuja, let me assure
our people that Kaduna and Abuja are completely
different in history, growth and priorities. We did what
needed to be done in Abuja to make it a true national
capital. In contrast, what Kaduna needs are better
schools, health facilities and productive farms in an
atmosphere of improved peace and security. That will
be the focus of APC's efforts not the scaremongering
of impending demolitions!
We shall foster an environment of security of lives and
property by tackling the roots of intolerance and
communal violence. We shall make a priority of
Transparent Governance and Improved Service
Delivery by reenergizing and empowering the public
service. We shall rebuild and expand water supply,
rural electrification, and roads infrastructure. Our
government will invest in our people by improving
capacity and delivery in Health, Education and Social
Welfare. We shall energetically promote Agriculture
and Food Security, while implementing Land Reform
as a basis for wealth creation and capital formation.
The APC Kaduna Team will implement reforms that
will create a transparent and responsible local
government system, that is properly funded,
autonomous and technically-strengthened to be
responsive and capable of delivering services at the
grassroots. We are poised to take advantage of our
state’s proximity to Abuja by developing new towns in
locations neighboring the federal capital territory.
We are at a crossroads of risks and opportunities in
our nation and our state. The choice we make in 2015
will determine whether our nation succeeds or fails.
We believe that we can make Kaduna great again. I
ask for your support so that we can make it happen
together. We conclude with a prayer.
We pray that God chooses for Nigeria the leadership
that will bring peace, prosperity and progress to our
nation. We believe that General Muhammadu Buhari is
that leader. We pray that God chooses for Kaduna
State a governor that will usher in peace, prosperity
and development in our state. We believe our team is
the best placed to do this. However, the Almighty God
knows best, and in the event that another aspirant for
governorship is better, we pray that He chooses him or
her. All our team cares about is peaceful coexistence
and progress in Kaduna State. So help us God!
Thank you for honoring us with your presence. God
Bless you.
PoliticsDon't Run Our Future Fayose by oderinde11(op): 7:16pm On Nov 04, 2014
A group, Ekiti Youths Vanguard (EYV), has urged
Governor Ayodele Fayose to engage the youth in
productive ventures.
It said his “stomach infrastructure” stunts portend
great threat to productive living among the people.
The group condemned the governor’s plan to spend
Friday nights in beer parlours as a mark of solidarity
with the masses.
Its spokesman, Charles Fakunle, said it was not in beer
parlours that the governor could address poverty
among the masses.
Fakunle said: “Is it in beer parlours alone that the
governor can meet the people to solve their problems?
What of their farms, workshops, trading shops, learning
centres and union associations’ offices?
“Why not take a census of these groups and create
funding schemes for them to improve their trades and
grow their businesses?
“Is it while people are under alcoholic influence that
they can plan worthwhile schemes?How much will the
governor spend on the masses?”
The EYV spokesman said it was unfortunate that
Fayose has no programme other than schemes to build
a band of youths who would not be sober enough to
plan their future.

http://
thenationonlineng.net/new/dont-ruin-our-future-
youths-tell-fayose/
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Easiest Sitting President To Defeat In Poll – Kwankwaso by oderinde11(m): 3:14pm On Oct 22, 2014
We need GMB in this country

Sai buhari
IslamRe: Nairaland Muslim Newbies: Introduce Yourselves Here by oderinde11(m): 5:13pm On Oct 04, 2014
I'm a devoted muslim with gud character I like to associate with people, I'm very young bcus my parent refuse to give birth to me until I force them to, I'm 22 yrs of age frm oyo state ibadan south west local govt frm oderinde compound agbeni ib. My names are oderinde ridwanulahi dolapo aka ode
PoliticsRe: Buhari To Declare For Presidency On October 8 by oderinde11(m): 12:21pm On Sep 26, 2014
This is a man of integrity and the anti corruption crusader
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Can Defeat B’haram, Says Buhari by oderinde11(m): 4:55am On Jul 25, 2014
Salex007: Am fed up with this south south people... We in the north too are tired of this things happening too. But u people will just open ur mouth and close it anyhow...
. South are fighting the war they can never win Buhari for 2015

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