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Deadlytruth:
Please find it below and happy reading.

https://guardian.ng/opinion/mistakes-rotimi-williams-and-i-made-about-nigerias-constitution/

Please not where the report quotes Nwabueze as saying:

Then, what did we do to achieve our mis-guided objective? We took away 50 per cent of the items on the concurrent list and gave it to the centre.

Oh, so what about Rotimi Williams, was he not a Yoruba man? Why didn't you blame him with the Igbo man who did it?

because it won't suit your bias narrative of always blaming the Igbos, why are you people like this?

Putinofrussia:
Obasanjo has always been self centred and would rather have nobody come close to him in pedestal especially in his ethnic stock.
His govt was virtually a govt of the East but he is still our father and forgiven.

You have not sill answered my question, did Obasanjo betray the Yorubas?

Yes or No

sulaak:
Nigeria was not set up to fix problems. Nigeria is a group of nations that are force to live with eachother

So why do you people keep blaming the Igbos for any problem in Nigeria?

Deadlytruth:
An attempt was made in 1978 to correct it but it was still an Igbo man that thwarted it. You want details?

Please I need the details with verifiable link, not with your mouth...

Deadlytruth:
Igbos started the war by declaring Biafra. Recall that Azikiwe had succeeded in getting any secession declaration a criminal offense in the Nigerian Constitution. Also when Isaac Adaka Boro declared Niger Delta Republic earlier on, Aguiyi Ironsi and Ojukwu attacked him and killed 150 of his soldiers for the crime of declaring secession/war on Nigeria.

One thing I have I have noticed with you people is that you like selective history to suite biased and false narrative, I have answered this question for you with a question in my first reply before this, if you can answer it then we can continue from there....

Deadlytruth:
The greater question you should be asking is why would you declare secession when you knew that it was a criminal offense in the constitution courtesy of even your own brother Azikiwe?

Good question to answer only if you can tell me why Nigeria failed to honor the Aburi accord agreement in Ghana.

Deadlytruth:
Igbos were an overwhelming majority (80%) of the plotters and there was no Igbo casualty from the original hit list.

Initially you said it was only Igbos, and I corrected you, now you are saying it was 80% Igbos and that there was no Igbo casualty from the original hit list, so for you to use original hit list in your statement means there was Igbo casualty?

Putinofrussia:
Obasanjo was brought by Ekwueme,Shukumereje,other Igbo politicians and their Hausa fulani masters in order to spite Yorubas who wanted Falae.
Even if Obasanjo is a Yoruba man,he has always been self centred and would rather have nobody come close to him in pedestal especially in his ethnic stock.
His govt was virtually a govt of the East but he is still our father and forgiven.
Awolowo is still loved by Yorubas because he stood by them.Buhari was loved by core North because he stuck his neck out for them.
Igbos love Ojukwu because he stuck out his neck for them even if he later fled and most Igbos hate Azikiwe because he supported Nigeria.
You can't please the world but try to be good to people close to you,your ethnic stock,you can spread the goodness from there to the larger world.
In short,Igbos have always been in bed with the Hausa fulanis who have shown that they are smarter than the Igbos.They have always dribbled and scammed them.

So are you saying Obasanjo betrayed the Yorubas?

sulaak:
It sounds normal to me. Ironsi was the head of state of a suspicious and fractured country that had just witnessed a bloody coup led by Igbo officers. Ironsi proceeded to implement a decree that restricted Nigeria's press freedom and the infamous Decree No. 34", which abrogated the country's federal structure in exchange for a unitary.

Throughout Nigeria's period of self-rule, the North has consistently employed Northern political terms in its political movement. Northern Nigeria had always been suspicious of southern Nigerians. When given a chance by the useless Igbo military elite, they took complete control of the country, creating states that empowered the North. At the same time, return to regions when they can create multiple Northern states.

Igbo people need to learn that politics is a game of interest.

So are you saying that after over 50 years of the damage you claim the Igbos did through Ironsi, you people who have ruled since then could not fix the error or even make the country the country of your dreams without the Igbos in power?

stuffs2002:
Those that neutralized Aguyi Ironsi did the best thing for the country

And after over 50 years of doing the best thing for the country according to you, is the Nigeria of today the Nigeria of your dreams?

stuffs2002:
Aguyi-Ironsi took over power and ran the country aground. Everyone who came after him tried to correct the extensive damage that the disaster called Aguyi-Ironsi caused.

Imagine an armed robber took over your house and burnt it to the ground but passers by came and tried to put out the fire so that you can salvage your house. Will you blame the passers-by or the armed robber that burnt down the house from the beginning.


Iguyi-Ironsi remains the worst disaster that Nigeria had ever seen

He ran the country aground in 8 months and you people could not revive it after over 50 years?

Are you trying to say you people are that dumb?

please tell me another joke

Putinofrussia:
lol
You should be blaming yourselves...I mean Igbos and Hausas who have been in govt until 2015 when Buhari and Tinubu came together.
You have destroyed and squandered all the nation's patrimony before that.
Secondly,Ironsi introduced decree 34 unitary system of govt which later gave Gowon the impetus to create the 12 states.
Azikuwe,Ekwueme etc have been with the Northerners politically for decades,why didn't they change the status quo?

So Igbos have been ruling Nigeria before 2015 abi?

Obasanjo was an Igbo man abi?

please tell me another joke...

JetApartment:
Honestly, you lack comprehension, an Igbo man and a boy to Ironsi named Patrick Chukwuma "Kaduna" Nzeogwu (26 February 1937 – 29 July 1967) was a Nigerian military officer who played a leading role in the 1966 Nigerian coup d'état, which overthrew the First Nigerian Republic.

This is purely an Igbo plot, the Igbo's, your brothers Ironsi and Nzeogwu were the people that started Military Rulership and Dictatorship in Nigeria by removing a democratic government.

History is online for everyone to see, your twisted narrative cannot change the truth of what happened that is already in public domain, So, stop decieving yourself.

Visit the below link and listen to audio underneath his photo to hear Nzeogwu confirming he is Ironsi's boy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chukwuma_Nzeogwu

If you were not an ignorant fellow you won't come here to display it in full glare with so much arrogance....

An Igbo coup indeed...

JetApartment:
You people will just wake up and start peddling lies as if the information we need is not readily available online. Why did Aguyi Ironsi seize power in the first place? Maybe, a honest answer to this question will cure your self imposed ignorance.

You just confirmed what I just said up there, you blame Ironsi and the Igbos for seizing power to dominate others but you guys killed Ironsi and have done worse than him but still blame Ironsi and the Igbos for your failures after over 50 years of handling the power alone...

helinues:
You are the one struggling with English words. Your quote is Pdp's statement.

You are really struggling from comprehension

If PDP had access to the accounts, why will they still be complaining?

helinues:
In the account of LG or the account of Apc members? Don't be mischievous

The funds were lodged in newly opened accounts in the names of the 30 councils by the court-sacked All Progressives Congress (APC) Local Government chairmen and councillors.

It's like you and English are having a difficult time with each other...

helinues:
Who are the chairmen in those LG? Are they all Apc?

Looks like you have problem with English, let me help you again

The funds were lodged in newly opened accounts in the names of the 30 councils by the court-sacked All Progressives Congress (APC) Local Government chairmen and councillors.

helinues:
Was it Apc is showing as account name? Is the LG meant for Apc or for all the political parties

If the signatories are APC members then it is APC account...

CorperKola:
The first ilegal action was the coup and who was responsible for the coup
I dont want to say you seem slow

It wasn't even the coup, the coup was just an additional of the whole thing, and point of correction, the coup was not only done by Igbos...

CorperKola:
Bad behaviour should be called out anytime
Even as jesus christ came for our salvation we still blame adam and eve and God still cursed the serpent

Is it not your secession that led to the war
What are you even saying

The question you should be asking is what led to the secession?

CorperKola:
There is nothing to correct, even if we correct it i am sure it is you people that will start another civil war again.

If there is nothing to correct, why then do you still blame the Igbos?

And point of correction, Igbos never started any war, Nigeria started the war...

gabbytabby:
These are accounts in the name of the LG not to private individuals as claimed. Nigerians and liar liar unecessary drama.

helinues:
Have the LG chairmen denied of receiving the funds? The names of the LG which received the money was listed fcs

The funds were lodged in newly opened accounts in the names of the 30 councils by the court-sacked All Progressives Congress (APC) Local Government chairmen and councillors.

I know you people will skip this part...

CorperKola:
Is this even a serious question
Why do we blame eve or adam and eve for eating the forbidden apple up till today
If we dont blame them, who should we now blame

That is why Christ came to correct it, why haven't you people corrected yours after over 50 years ?

Are you people waiting for the Igbos to come back to correct it?

CorperKola:
No sane person would have gone back to that original arrangement ,its like the forbidden apple , once you have a taste, you cant uneat it.
Of course no one would want strong regions to be able to ever challenge the federal government again. Dividie and conquer
Its not hard to understand
Is it

If we are to go by your logic, why then are you blaming the first person for doing what you are enjoying to do?

kpankpangolo:
Pointless history lesson. I’m out.


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Of course it will be pointless to you since it doesn't push the false narrative of claiming that Igbos were the ones who started dividing Nigeria into states...

They claim Aguyi Ironsi was the one who brought in unitary government for Igbos to dominate other tribes and that is the cause of all the problems of Nigeria till date, but...

You ask the same people who killed Aguyi Ironsi and took over power just about 8 months into his reign why they have been unable to correct the mistake they claimed Aguyi made after over 50 years of only them in power without the Igbos then you begin to hear explanations without logic and common sense.

I mean let's look at it in simple terms, you claimed someone took over control of a vehicle illegally and caused damage to the vehicle, you killed him and then took over, after over 50 years you did not fix the damage but further spoilt it by creating more damage but still want to blame the first person for all your failures after 50 years of handling the vehicle and calling yourself a saint while tagging the first handler that you killed a bad person.

Does it sound normal at all?

Burob:
Keep waiting for President Tinubu to come and help u arrange your life.

Are you trying to force me to wait for a thief?

If you are waiting for him, do it on your own o, is it by force to wait for a thief?


Why should I wait for a criminal?

Burob:
Tinubu this, Tinubu that, no go help yourself, they wait for Jagaban to come & help u.

Like I said earlier on, you are the one waiting for Tinubu because you believe in him, except you don't believe in him, for me I don't believe in Tinubu because he is a liar, a thief, a criminal and a fraud.

Burob:
Keep deceiving yourself, u that is waiting for Tinubu to come & help u arrange your life.

How can I be waiting for an irresponsible human being, a liar and a fraud, you can only wait for what you believe in, so If you believe in Tnubu then you are referring to yourself.