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Christianity EtcEasy (but potent) souls winning method by oluminnic(op):
Many desire to win souls for God because of its benefits, but despite their efforts, they still do not have fruits. I am bold to say I am a successful soul winner. I am going to show you the easiest method to be one and guess what! It is biblical.

It does not require much knowledge (you do not even have to carry bible); therefore, you need no preparation for antagonism because all bulk will be passed directly to God. The best part of it is that the person will not even realise when you ‘hit hard’ on him or her.

The secret is to change your message
Evangelism is marketing. If you can market a product then you can win soul for God. This is evangelism by pointing. You are just like a signpost and you are directing people to God
A marketer has a developed product. Most people evangelise without a product. Jesus is not a product; His name is rather a mechanism and mechanisms are always hidden.

I tell you what a product is
i. You could be a product. ‘This was who I used to be before, this is who I am now’ and this was what I did (Just like the Samaritan woman). A wonderful way of branding yourself as product is via this link (https://rhemaformula.com/easiest-ways-to-serve-god-acceptably-part-a/) .
ii. Characteristic testimony from your church could also be a product that you are marketing ‘I like to invite you to my church; it is the solution centre for this kind of problem’.

People cannot see Jesus, but they can verify the proof of His changing power in you and in your church.

Someone will say how will they get saved
Leave that to God; once they are in His presence, He claims whom He wishes (Matthew 22:1-14).
Christianity EtcInspire others with your TESTIMONY @rhemaformula by oluminnic(op):
The bible is a recount of God’s deeds, and good news is all about the ability of each deed to replicate itself through the wisdom of God.
The recorded deeds of God had caused worldwide revival, but its sustenance is subject to our ability to add to them. Countless deeds shared as testimonies in our churches have been forgotten. We now have generations that feel bible is a myth and miracles are fabricated.
It is high time we brought the forgotten nowadays unquestionable testimonies to prints. Join this chariot, your testimony can reawaken revival in nations of the world. Recount your testimonies, save lives by putting it on https://rhemaformula.com/testimony/.
Christianity EtcWay Out Of Frustration by oluminnic(op): 3:13am On Aug 13, 2016
Frustration is an emotional response to opposition. You are trying so hard on a thing but it now seems impossible. It seems you are the odd one out and others have left you, following your pastor's advice led you to where you are and now you feel like blaming God etc. All these are feelings you have when you are frustrated. And I've got this to tell you.

When you are out of options, that is when God is closest
When it is very hard to see the way, that is when God is most ready to step in.
When its so hard to believe the word of your pastor, when you think God has let you down, that is when his hand is outstretched to pull you up

I found myself in a difficult position recently but through the help of the Holy Spirit, I took a step which turned out to be the best step. What I'm about to share is a lesson from the event

You have to know this first, God so much love you, even in the most difficult situation, God has provided the way out. And it is never difficult to see, always glaring. What is the way? The way out is the opportunity to let Him in.
When you are down to nothing, there is always something left, one very last decision to make, one last thing that will go out of you, it doesn't have to be money. Some call it game changer, some call it last card but i call it God's key

What to do with God's key
1. Take that last step for God, and I can assure you, you will be amazed at the result you will get. Is it a last moment you've got , play it for God.
A man with a terminal disease was about to die, the only thing he had left to do was to share his inheritance, he gave 1/3 of what he had for charity, and to the shame of devil, till now he is alive. There was another hopeless man, all he had was what he could use to redeem himself but he paid the money to church because he realised he has not paid his tithe, and he was not only redeemed, he was restored.

2. Go and rest; that is forget about it. The 3 Hebrews, knew they were going to die, they had the opportunity of a last decision, they went for God and thereafter forgot about it; saying 'even if God did not answer us'. Your faith and trust in God will water your seed.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 7:47pm On Jun 04, 2016
Eve was taken out of man Gen.2:23, they both became two separate person but the bible says when they cling together they are one Gen. 2:24. The man was created to be god over other creature but to Eve, his bone of bone, he is lord.

Don't forget man was created in the likeness of God; meaning if you want to understand somethings about God, study the history of the first(sinless) man. Even the bible showed that we are created to declear God (1 Peter1:10-12, Eph. 3:10-11)

When God revealed his name Jehovah, you will noticed everything followed suit, names were given in line with that because it was a new line of revelation. Even Jesus means 'Jehovah is salvation'. But in Jesus was a new revelation, we understand that the word that was God(John1:1) was in him (John 1:14), that he is one with God (John 10:30), that he referred to God (which all knew as Jehovah then) as 'my Father' (John 5:18) that there a person of Holy Spirit, who cannot leave the Father except he goes to the Father (John 16:7)

In Jesus, we understand that there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And how di we know they are one. Jesus said I and my father, we are one. Instead of Jesus saying baptise in the name of God, he said baptise in the name of the Father, the name of the Son and the name of the HS (Matthew 28:19)

And that is why in the NT, you hear HS, Jesus Christ, God (Father) because we were baptised in the name of Jesus (and his revelation) while in the OT, you see Jehovah (God's revelation to Moses) because they were baptised into Moses (1 Cor. 10:1-2).
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 8:50pm On May 28, 2016
dolphinheart:
ok
1. Jehovah is a person
2. Jesus is a person
3. The father is a Person

4,. I asked you sir 3. if the person jehovah , the same as the person Jesus or they are two different persons?
you answered yes, yes to what, that they are the same person or that they are two different persons.?

in your explanation, you first quoted john 1:1 and John 1:14 , I read them, but they go contrary to your explanation.
you said " The Word (Jesus) was same with God (Jehovah), i.e Jesus was in Jehovah,".
well sir, the verse did not say "same with God," it said "was with God". It also did not say or imply that Jesus was in Jehovah( if we replace the words "word" and "God with "jesus" and " jehovah "wink but implies that Jesus was jehovah( if we go by the scripture you quoted)
sir , from your explanation, are you saying that Jesus was not a person until he was born on earth?

hope you can adress this issues.

5. you said the father gave birth to jesus. are you saying the son was created?
you made this statement: "But the bible refers to him as the only begotten because he carries God (who is Spirit, so he carries the Spirit of God) and that makes him the Son of God" . pls what about adam, is his spirit not the spirit of God before he sinned? can we call adam only begotten son too before he sinned?

6. The father and Jehovah are the same person, good.
we will continue when you respond sir
4. The Father and the son are two separate personalities,
You dint complete your John 1:1, it ended with '...and the word was God'
The Word (wisdom) was already by God's side during the creation (having his own personality and glory). Jesus as a man never came into being until after he was born but the word came to dwell in him in all its richness, thereby making Jesus to exhibit the same glory as God on earth
John: 1. 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - Bible Offline

You would want to ask if the word is different from Jesus. The lamb that died on the cross was Jesus (prepared by the word). That is why Jesus is both referred to as the son of God (the word) and the son of man

Understand, when we call the name Jesus, we are not calling the name of a man that performed miracles on earth but we are calling The name of God because God adopted the name Philippians: 2. 9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; - Bible Offline


5. The son was not created, but he was formed. There is difference between creating and forming. Forming simply means giving form, shape to something that is already on existence Proverbs: 8. 12. I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions. 22. The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; - Bible Offline

Adam's spirit was never the spirit of God but the spirit of man. What makes you a man is the spirit of man in you

Only beggotten son- you see, all these words -son, only begotten- are terminologies. Ive explained what son of God means. Jesus was called the only begotten son because he had in him God (who is Spirit) dwelling in him.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 5:47pm On May 27, 2016
@dolphinheart
Sorry, I dint get to see your response on time
1. Jehovah is a Person
2. Jesus is a person
3. The father is a Person
4. Yes. John: 1. 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2. The same was in the beginning with God. 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - Bible Offline

The Word (Jesus) was same with God (Jehovah), i.e Jesus was in Jehovah, but when the Word was made flesh, he became a separate person from the father
5. Relationship- father gave birth to son.
What makes you the son of man is the spirit of man in you
The term 'son of God' in the bible is used for those whose geneology is not traceable to man. One is Jesus because of virgin birth, another one is Adam (Luke 3:38), another group is that of we that are bornagain whose spirits have been recreated in Christ Jesus and because God dwells in us (1John3:2)
But the bible refers to him as the only begotten because he carries God (who is Spirit, so he carries the Spirit of God) and that makes him the Son of God

6. They are both same.
'Father,son and HS' is just more specific for God than Jehovah. This is just as Jehovah is more specific and a further revelation on 'Elohim'
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by oluminnic: 8:30pm On May 26, 2016
Check this site out for more info
www.christianlifeissues.com
Christianity EtcRe: Let's Talk About Our New Nature by oluminnic(op): 8:19pm On May 22, 2016
We instill fear in the people around us

Prov 10:17. We talked about you being predestined for a great thing. God is working on you all the time both when you are down and up; pruning you to produce that figure (person) He sees in you.
You are light- you are the exhibit of the work of God, you may not be shinning yet but the fact that God is present in you, working in you and on you, makes you what the world is waiting for, the presence of God always radiate though you may not see but the people around you are feeling itthat neighbor of yours who happens to be richer than you is feeling the work and he envies something in you. He looks at your life and he is challenged and encouraged
Esther 8:17And many of the people of the land became Jews, for the fear of the Jews fell upon them
Deut 28:10 And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of thee
You have to be careful with what you do, you are a light, you are already representing something and that thing points to Jesus, do not misrepresent it.
Stop looking down on yourself; you are like a time bomb with clock ticking, just about to explode. The world awaits you.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 8:10pm On May 22, 2016
dolphinheart:
ok. The three of them can sit to have a meeting.
1. but its only one person that is sitting Down as three personalities right?
3. and that person is Jehovah right?



sir you where the one that used the example, I was only discussing the trinity based on the example you used , you even affirmed the the trinity was more like (a) rather than (b).
thus I made conclusions based on the example you gave only for you to now claim it's inapopriate. For better understanding, let me just ask some questions
1. is Jehovah a person
2. is jesus a person
3. is the father a person
4. is the person jehovah , the same as the person jesus or they are two different persons
5. what is the connection between the father and son.
6. what is the relationship between the father and jehovah
Sorry, I dint get to see your response on time
1. Jehovah is a Person
2. Jesus is a person
3. The father is a Person
4. Yes. John: 1. 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2. The same was in the beginning with God. 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - Bible Offline

The Word (Jesus) was same with God (Jehovah), i.e Jesus was in Jehovah, but when the Word was made flesh, he became a separate person from the father
5. Relationship- father gave birth to son.
What makes you the son of man is the spirit of man in you
The term 'son of God' in the bible is used for those whose geneology is not traceable to man. One is Jesus because of virgin birth, another one is Adam (Luke 3:38), another group is that of we that are bornagain whose spirits have been recreated in Christ Jesus and because God dwells in us (1John3:2)
But the bible refers to him as the only begotten because he carries God (who is Spirit, so he carries the Spirit of God) and that makes him the Son of God

6. They are both same.
'Father,son and HS' is just more specific for God than Jehovah. This is just as Jehovah is more specific and a further revelation on 'Elohim'
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 11:49pm On May 14, 2016
dolphinheart:
sir pls add the answers to my question in your explanations so I can examine it together
The answers to all your questions are there
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 8:27pm On May 13, 2016
@dolphinheart

Eve was taken out of man Gen.2:23, they both became two separate person but the bible says when they cling together they are one Gen. 2:24. The man was created to be god over other creature but to Eve, his bone of bone, he is lord.

Don't forget man was created in the likeness of God; meaning if you want to understand somethings about God, study the history of the first(sinless) man. Even the bible showed that we are created to declear God (1 Peter1:10-12, Eph. 3:10-11)

When God revealed his name Jehovah, you will noticed everything followed suit, names were given in line with that because it was a new line of revelation. Even Jesus means 'Jehovah is salvation'. But in Jesus was a new revelation, we understand that the word that was God(John1:1) was in him (John 1:14), that he is one with God (John 10:30), that he referred to God (which all knew as Jehovah then) as 'my Father' (John 5:18) that there a person of Holy Spirit, who cannot leave the Father except he goes to the Father (John 16:7)

In Jesus, we understand that there is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And how di we know they are one. Jesus said I and my father, we are one. Instead of Jesus saying baptise in the name of God, he said baptise in the name of the Father, the name of the Son and the name of the HS (Matthew 28:19)

And that is why in the NT, you hear HS, Jesus Christ, God (Father) because we were baptised in the name of Jesus (and his revelation) while in the OT, you see Jehovah (God's revelation to Moses) because they were baptised into Moses (1 Cor. 10:1-2).
HealthABCDES Of Healthy Living by oluminnic(op): 8:59pm On May 12, 2016
Below are the tips for healthy living
Assess yourself- understand what causes what you are passing through, how to avoid it the next time; treatment, medical check up * be hospital friendly
Healthy persons clinic, cervical cancer screening, health advise on disease tendency

Be Careful- risky behavious; mental stress, any thing that gives you headache is not worth it. worry, anxiety, over working, also alcohol, smoking, sexual immorality.
importance of visiting a psychologist

Diet- See dieticians tomorrow- water, fruit, intake of supplements, reduce oil, salt, sugar, fat * water: 3L/day for men, 2.2L for women.washes the toxins in the bady away, keep the openings moist

Exercise- it is the best demonstrable way of maintaining good health, it is good for all age and condition. it does not only rejuvenate your body but also your mind
brisk walking, jogging, swimming, dancing, yard work at least 2 1/2 hours per week and you keep increasing

weight reduction- very important overweight has been linked to hypertension...
How to know if you are overweight- BMI calculation

Sleep- at least 6-8 hrs in a day
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 3:21pm On May 11, 2016
@dolphinheart

You are not right with your inferences

I'm not teaching you trinity but the word of God

You are just like the scribes and pharisees of bible days
God does not have to change his character anytime/sometimes. There is an established personality of Jesus and that of the HS and the three of them can sit together to have a meeting

As regards 'analogy' I believe you should understand English. No analogy is perfect for anything, that is the reason why it is called analogy for easy understanding

I used the example of a single cast in a drama to help your understanding because I know where you are coming from.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 5:05pm On May 10, 2016
@dolphinheart
Sorry about that. What i described was more like (a)

In the beginning, the son was there (during the creation) in the father, not as separate being; the same way the Levites paid tithe to Melchizedech in Abraham. In Genesis, only God and Holy Spirit were mentioned but John 1:1 showed that he was in the Father

Is Jehovah a person? YES

Saying is the son a character used by the father will not be appropriate cos I only used it as an analogy, just for understanding sake
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 1:47pm On May 10, 2016
Elohim is a hebrew word, it means mighty ones
Romans: 1. 20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Bible Offline
So if I use stage drama to explain trinity just for the sake of understanding, it is not out of place

If you agree that a man can make something with his son then it shouldnt be difficult for you to believe that the Son (Word) was there when God created the world
Proverbs: 8. 22. The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. 23. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. 24. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 25. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26. While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28. When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29. When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; - Bible Offline

The scripture above established that Wisdom (the Son) was with the Father (God) before the creation of the wordJohn: 1. 10. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. - Bible Offline
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 9:10pm On May 09, 2016
@dolphinheart
First of all, my friend
I must confess Ive really enjoyed this conversation, so intruiging and challenging
You see, may be that is where the misunderstanding is
A person (used contextually) in my write-ups does not mean a separate being but a separate character. In a stage drama one cast can act different roles (all it takes is costume) but not in the same scene. But in the story of redemption from the foundation of the earth (if taken as drama), Jehovah (recognised by his glory and splendor) was seen playing 3 different roles at the same time
Genesis 1:26

Revelation about God as being just One God was also progressive. In Genesis 1:1, the word used for God was plural(Elohim) and this was also evidenced when the writer wrote 'Let us'

Let Us Make Man in Our Image"

"And God said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.'" Genesis 1:26, (Jewish Publication Society version, 1917)

The plurality of God is also discovered in the creation of man. According to this fascinating verse, man was created by God in his own image. However, there is something provocative and unexpected in this verse. Prior to the creation of man we find a conversation between God (Elohim) and an unidentified being ("let Us make man in Our image"wink. Who is this person with whom God is speaking?

This person, or intelligent being, has some attributes that we can glean from the text. First, the personage is able to speak with God "on His turf", that is, in the realm of timeless eternity.

Secondly, this being apparently has the same kind of creative ability as God ("Let US make"wink. This describes a cooperative effort between Elohim and the person with whom He is speaking.

Finally, the likeness or image of this being is comparable to God's ("In Our image, after Our likeness"wink.

When confronted with this passage, modern rabbis often claim that God is speaking to the angels. However, this explanation fails to recognize a number of problems.

First, there is no indication in the Bible that angels can create life. Secondly, nowhere is it indicated that angels are made in the image of God. Finally, there is no indication that mankind was made in the image of angels either!

We may conclude that the person with whom Elohim is conversing lives in the eternal realm, has His creative power and exists in the image or likeness of God. No angel, no man, no created being in heaven or on earth could possibly fit these criteria.
Christianity EtcRe: The Heretic Trinity Theory!!!!!! by oluminnic: 3:49pm On May 08, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/2985012/trinity-real

This should clear some of your doubts
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 2:23pm On May 08, 2016
@dolphinheart
Yes, I am saying that Jehovah manifested in 3 distinct persons

If in Adam, there can be two persons (Adam and Eve)
(Genesis: 1. 27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. - Bible Offline) then is it too much to say that in God there are 3 distinct persons

Take it this way, to carry out a task you need to pass through 3 different phases; to achieve the first one you need to stand upright, second one you need to bend down and the third one you need to lie flat on the floor (and the 3 phases has to be done concurrently). Humanly speaking you need 3 different people but in redemption, we saw God in each of the phases working simultaneously. This is where the concept of One God appearing in 3 persons came from
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 11:11pm On May 07, 2016
@ dolphinheart
Yes
Exodus: 6. 3. And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. - Bible Offline

God was first known as God Almighty, then later He shed more light into His personality by revealing Jehovah as His name
Then He revealed Himself in Jesus and through this new and last revelation (Hebrew 1:1-2) we have insight into the wisdom of God and through this we understand the three distinct persons in One God


John: 1. 9. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13. Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - Bible Offline
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 8:35pm On May 07, 2016
@dolphinheart
You see it is very simple
If what you have issues with me on is trinity and Godhead- they are just terminologies (not even in the bible as I have pointed out earlier)
The point is there is recognition of three personalties, which I think you quite agree with Matt 28:19 The father, the Son and the HS.
I am not a 'Trinity' preacher but I am a preacher of the 3 recognised personalities of God (who is one) Deuteronomy 6:4. And to some it is called trinity but I really do not care because I am not sent to preach terminologies but the Word of God
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 5:57am On May 07, 2016
@dolphinheart
I think I finally know from what point you are coming from.
You have weird view about christianity (and trinity), you are scared of sharing it boldly (for people to criticize) on your own page but yet you need supporters

If you are a Jehovah witness; understand that our bibles are different and our faith, practices and believes are different, so there can never be a common ground.
Christianity EtcRe: Let's Talk About Our New Nature by oluminnic(op): 8:55pm On May 06, 2016
Being godly

It means to be like God. It means to be righteous. The promises of God are for the righteous. Bible says say to the righteous, it shall be well with them- so it is important to walk in the way of the Lord.
Have you not noticed that Jesus had explanation for every step he took, and every word he said. That is the path of righteousness, you are not the first to take it, God took it first, and heroes of faith took it also. The godly are those God can associate with, they are the friends of God.
You need to start acting godly- it is the act of God to make impact; you need to start making impact through the help of the HS. We have the spirit of God in us and so we have the ability to start acting rightly Rom 12:2. You need to start thinking mercy instead of sacrifice, giving rather than withholding, wisdom rather than folly, living for others (not yourself).
I leave you with this- until you start living godly, life in the kingdom has not commenced.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 6:44pm On May 06, 2016
@dolphinheart
1. Matthew 28:19, 1John 5:7

2. My bro, Godhead is a rev just like trinity. Just words used to at least simplify the perspective of the word of God (wisdom) on the personality of God. The truth is we see (understand) in parts for now but when the right time comes we will see the whole truth 1Corinthians 13:9-12

3. I am a mere mortal, who am I to know when, how and who about God. The word of God is beyond all humans, too complex for us, but wisdom simplified it for us so that it could be in a form that we can read/hear and comprehend and in the process of doing that, it presented the personality of God to us in three forms but like I wrote earlier, the time is coming when we wouldnt need human language again and then in our new body we will understand all things 1Corinthians 13:9-12

 As regards the 2 statements on trinity (mine and yours) YES they are not entirely same, but they both recognise the 3 personalities as it is in the scriptures above. Trinity is simply defined as one God in three persons. What you quoted was never the origin of trinity, it was the opinion of that group.


As regards the vision thing. The bible says he saw the heaven opened, c'mon, you dont need any further explanation, is heaven a door that opens? He simply had a vision, you just need to have experienced one to know. Jesus obeyed God by humbling himself to come to John and God identified with him (His Spirit on him); John saw a vision of the symbolic representation of this. (It takes the supernatural to see the move of God e.g Balaam and his horse)


'God was far away in the OT' In OT, few people can hear from God and tell other but in NT, we dont need anyone to speak to us for we can all hear Him Heb 8:10-13, Joel2:28
Christianity EtcRe: Truth About The Garden Of Eden by oluminnic(op): 10:19pm On May 01, 2016
The truth about the garden of eden

The garden could be likened to a womb:
4 reasons: up till now the earthly location cannot be found, It is a place where everything good on earth is located Gen. 2:8-15. Every of it content has eternal consequence (name given to animal remain the same; once the fruit was taken, no reversal). Adam had no understanding of earthly desires (no need); he never knew he was lonely, even after God provided a helper, there was no urge to know her
Adams death in the womb was at full maturity. How? It is in the practice of God to test his work after he has perfected it. God was already testing Adam (he gave him animals to name; the names he gave were accepted by God) and Adam was passing

It is the wisdom of God
The knowledge we need to judge the world and angels is not the knowledge of good and evil but the knowledge of wisdom. Genesis 2:8-9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God out of his wisdom planted all the trees, one of them led to the fall of His treasured creation. Same way, Jesus in His wisdom chose 12 disciples, one of them was the son of perdition that betrayed him. Maybe it is a path of wisdom and devil fell for it. May be everything was the path that wisdom chose. No wonder God searched everywhere for wisdom did not want to let him off His sight (Job 28:23-7); no wonder Jesus was crucified before the foundation of earth (1Peter 1:19-20, Rev. 13:cool

The tree of life
Prov. 3:13-8. It is a tree of vitality, it gives life. Its fruit is just like breast milk to a baby, its composition do change to suit the need at any particular time. How? They take fruit from every tree save one Gen. 3:1. Meaning they have been eating fruit from the tree but they were hindered from taking from it after they fell because as at that time, the fruit gives vitality for life eternal. Gen. 3:22-4. The tree of life is the tree of righteousness. It is a place where you draw the strength of God. Yes it is the bible, Yes it is the church, Yes it is the prophet of God. 1 Cor. 2:7-10

The fall
Eve was a part of the first man that was already transcending into the real world, she draws her vitality form the man. Devil could only relate with Eve and not the man, God deals directly with the man. The womb was meant to produce a man that can function on earth but man took short cut and therefore he had no need for the womb again. To the system of the womb he became dead and he should not have access to the nourishment of the womb. His preplanned transition from the womb to the field became an expulsion which was very painful and traumatic. The woman being the one with fault was cursed to have an experience of what it felt like (her birth pang was greatly incryheased) **that was Eves purnishment not woman, there is always birth pang but hers was greatly increased.

Expelled but not rejected
Right from inside the garden, he was clothed by God. After his expulsion, God led him into tilling of the ground to teach him that his help could only come from his source- wisdom (what was left of him was just a degrading body).
The ground has been prepared for the real Adam (it has completed its own course of preparation) but since what came out of Eden was a different Adam, it was cursed Gen. 3:17
What could have taken few minutes/hours/days/years in the timing of the garden took thousands of years before it could be declared as finished. The fruit of the tree of life taken before the fall was only able to sustain the life span of human for a while during which it degrades; part of the process of degradation is sickness, cancers, demonic attack because human body has lost its glory and now seen as prey
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 10:08pm On May 01, 2016
@ dolphinheart, As regards the definitions of trinity and Godhead, I believe they are well explained in my write-ups.
The reason why I asked for your religion/stand was because I want to know from what angle to answer your questions, so that it wont turn to unnecessary arguement

You see, the Bible was written through the inspiration of HS and it can ony be understood through the breathe of the HS. It is not like other 'holy' book that a lay man can read and understand because to understand it you need revelation. This is how the bible was written and this is how trinity came about. Trinity is a terminology used to explain a revelation, the first person that got and expressed it may just have a vague idea of it and further revelations on it is dynamic; even in the bible revelation about the names of God was dynamic, first Elohim then El-Shaddai and then Jehovah.

As regards the fact that father is always in need of companion. Jesus said if he does not go to the father the HS will not come...that should answer your question; when Jesus was baptized what John saw was a vision. As regards the spirit Jesus gave to his disciples, it depends on what portion of scripture you are referring to in Matt 10:1, Jesus gave them impartation but in John 20:22, he came to mark them for the downpour of the HS, because we see from the bible that the actual downpour of HS was on pentecost

When I said God was far away in OT, this is what I mean, God is always very near to us at all time, but in the old times, little knowledge was had, but now we have better knowledge because HS is now dwelling on our inside. What you have nearby that you dont understand is of no use to you but what you have far away that you can relate with is much better.

I really do hope Ive able to answer your questions
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 12:51pm On May 01, 2016
@dolphinheart,
All your questions are easy to answer
But to know how to do that
I will need to know if you are muslim/witness/athiest etc
A private session will do
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 12:28pm On May 01, 2016
Jesus while on earth was the son of man Mark 10:35 and all men are subject to the Almighty God. The bible says the word becme flesh and dwell among us John 1:14. Flesh is different from the body, flesh is a component of the soul. The second person in trinity dwelling in the son of man; and that made him the son of God because the person of God is in him, and that made him one with God John 10:30.

Jesus refers to himself as the son of man not the son of Adam because Adam is not a name but a title and that is why Jesus is the second Adam. His Adamic spirit is just like that of the first Adam which is able to receive from God Luke 2:52 Bible says Jesus grew in wisdom. He became so engrossed with the law that the word of God could dwell in him in all its richness.

Jesus was the real son of the first couple Genesis 3:15 and God could see Jesus even before man fell, no wonder He died before the foundation of the world 1 Peter 1:18-20, Rev 13:8

The garden experience never ended with the first Adam, he was chased away but his true offspring, the last Adam, completed it (before a plantain tree loses its essence it is already replaced) Example of the life of the last Adam on earth was that of Mechizedek. Jesus came after the order of Melchizedek. The last Adam came and got the work of God completed

***another rev: the first serpent was friendly and extremely wise and even man felt comfortable in it/with it but its offspring became a good (best,only) hideout for lucifer and in it the prophesy Gen 3:15 is fulfilled
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 12:27pm On May 01, 2016
Wow! mightymama. Nice having you
What Quran said was the inspiration of a man (he said so himself) Quran 41:6
Mightymama, what about your own inspiration. Have you ever thought of that
God bless you
Christianity EtcRe: Let's Talk About Our New Nature by oluminnic(op): 10:04pm On Apr 30, 2016
You are the elect that can elect

Prov.11:30 he that winneth soul is wise.
Bible called us the elect of God and God gave us the power to go out and save souls for him (making them Gods elect)
If only you can set your mind to it you can save that your neighbor, sibling, parent
There was a man who sets his mind that someone will be saved. He went and introduced Jesus to the person; he gave Christian materials, and prayed earnestly for the person. He chose to live a godly life and eventually God delivered that soul into his hand
In your hand is the power to erase the past of a sinner, to give hope to the hopeless, healing to the sick. You just need to realize this and then start working towards it
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 5:51pm On Apr 30, 2016
Jesus while on earth was the son of man Mark 10:35 and all men are subject to the Almighty God. The bible says the word becme flesh and dwell among us John 1:14. Flesh is different from the body, flesh is a component of the soul. The second person in trinity dwelling in the son of man; and that made him the son of God because the person of God is in him, and that made him one with God John 10:30.

Jesus refers to himself as the son of man not the son of Adam because Adam is not a name but a title and that is why Jesus is the second Adam. His Adamic spirit is just like that of the first Adam which is able to receive from God Luke 2:52 Bible says Jesus grew in wisdom. He became so engrossed with the law that the word of God could dwell in him in all its richness.

Jesus was the real son of the first couple Genesis 3:15 and God could see Jesus even before man fell, no wonder He died before the foundation of the world 1 Peter 1:18-20, Rev 13:8

The garden experience never ended with the first Adam, he was chased away but his true offspring, the last Adam, completed it (before a plantain tree loses its essence it is already replaced) Example of the life of the last Adam on earth was that of Mechizedek. Jesus came after the order of Melchizedek. The last Adam came and got the work of God completed

***another rev: the first serpent was friendly and extremely wise and even man felt comfortable in it/with it but its offspring became a good (best,only) hideout for lucifer and in it the prophesy Gen 3:15 is fulfilled
Christianity EtcRe: Truth About The Garden Of Eden by oluminnic(op): 11:30am On Apr 30, 2016
Jesus while on earth was the son of man Mark 10:35 and all men are subject to the Almighty God. The bible says the word becme flesh and dwell among us John 1:14. Flesh is different from the body, flesh is a component of the soul. The second person in trinity dwelling in the son of man; and that made him the son of God because the person of God is in him, and that made him one with God John 10:30.

Jesus refers to himself as the son of man not the son of Adam because Adam is not a name but a title and that is why Jesus is the second Adam. His Adamic spirit is just like that of the first Adam which is able to receive from God Luke 2:52 Bible says Jesus grew in wisdom. He became so engrossed with the law that the word of God could dwell in him in all its richness.

Jesus was the real son of the first couple Genesis 3:15 and God could see Jesus even before man fell, no wonder He died before the foundation of the world 1 Peter 1:18-20, Rev 13:8

The garden experience never ended with the first Adam, he was chased away but his true offspring, the last Adam, completed it (before a plantain tree loses its essence it is already replaced) Example of the life of the last Adam on earth was that of Mechizedek. Jesus came after the order of Melchizedek. The last Adam came and got the work of God completed

***another rev: the first serpent was friendly and extremely wise and even man felt comfortable in it/with it but its offspring became a good (best,only) hideout for lucifer and in it the prophesy Gen 3:15 is fulfilled
Christianity EtcRe: Is Trinity Real by oluminnic(op): 11:05am On Apr 30, 2016
Wow! CAPTIVATOR, I love your line of reasoning but You need to understand these.
1. The woman was formed from the man. Both of them are one but the man is her Lord (Master, god)
2. Same way the Word and the HS were formed from Godhead for the sake of redemption. Both the word and the HS are subject to God(the Father).

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