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dolphinheart:
If you want to accuse someone of doing something, you add/bring/supply prove ok.
U say I got my post from a Website , pls post the content of the website that is similar to mine.
U said "but na lie", pls show the lie, dnt just make blank statement .

I believe you urself now know you lied in ur initial post(lie 1) on the name of the french president in 1981. The name of the french president in this post(Francois mitterand) is different from the name u gave in ur initial post(Francisco mitra). Why did you change the names if not to confuse people from finding out the truth.

Pls dnt lie on names that can be verified ok

that mean ur brain need upgrading

ur brain don't tell u that franciso mitra
is the abriviation of fransico mitterand?

truthman2012:
Trash!

There is no way you can understand any major thing on which your islamic faith is anchored without the Bible.

QURAN SAYS ABRAHAM AND ISHMAEL CAME TO MECCA:

Coming from where? Did they drop from the sky?

What led them to leave where they were coming from?

JESUS WAS GIVEN A BOOK (Quran 19:30):

What does the Book contain?

Where is the Book today?

ABRAHAM BUILT KAABA AS A RESORT AND SANCTUARY FOR MANKIND:

Who did visit that Kaaba meant for all mankind after Abraham? No biblical, historical or even islamic source to back up that God's prophets visited the house. Would Mose, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus etc not go there as the house of worship for ALL MANKIND?

Quran is silent on a number of issues that would have exposed the true identity of allahh without stress and it is deliberately so by him. The list of quran silence on very important subjects is long.

But before you finally take your leave as the truth you are discovering does not go down well with you, can you throw more light on the following prophets from quranic viewpoints:

Who was Moses and where was he coming from? What happened to him that he was appointed a prophet and leading which people to where?

How was Moses and his people in where and how did get there?

Who was Ishmael and where was he coming from before he got to Mecca and why did he leave his base? How did he get a wife to be able to multiply in Mecca? Who were his children that took over from him?

i will give the detail of it

Sweetnecta:
I RAN INTO THIS THREAD WHILE TRYING TO DISABLE MY ACCOUNT WHICH I SHOULD HAVE DONE LONG TIME AGO WHEN I DECIDED TO LEAVE. IF SEUN OR ANYONE CAN ASSIST, I WILL GIVE MY EMAIL BECAUSE IT IS SET UP ONLY FOR NAIRALAND MATTERS AND NOTHING MORE.

MUSLIMS SHOULD EXAMINE INFO PROVIDED BY NON MUSLIMS IN RELIGIOUS CONVERSATION AS THIS ONE HERE BEFORE ACCEPTING IT OUTRIGHT ON ITS MERIT. MR WONDERFUL HERE WHO STARTED THE THREAD INTENTIONALLY OMITTED VERSES 28; 11 AND 12 THAT ANSWERED HIS QUESTIONS. IF HE IGNORANTLY DID SO, HE NEEDS TO BE CERTAIN THE FUTURE BEFORE GOING FORWARD.

THE STORY OF MOSES HERE IN 28 IS PART OF OVERALL STORY OF MOSES [MUSA [AS] IN THE QURAN. ALLAH PROVIDES ONLY WHAT MATTERS ABOUT MOSES. IT IS SPIRITUALLY IRRELEVANT TO PROVIDE WHAT DOES NOT BENEFIT US LIKE THE STREET ADDRESS OF HIS BIRTH, ETC. WHAT WE KNOW ARE THAT HE WAS BORN IN THE COMMUNITY OF HIS PEOPLE, IN A YEAR BOYS BORN MUST BE KILLED WHEREAS OLDER BROTHER AARON WAS BORN THE YEAR SONS WERE SPARED. I CAN'T FIND ANY REASON THIS THREAD WAS STARTED EXCEPT TO BE DISHONEST WHILE PROSELYTIZING CHRISTIANITY.

tanx for dis good work but the bold is not clear to me

clemz88:
does muslims have their own hell fire ne

they were 7 kind of hell fire but ur buybull cann't explain them

Anas09:
So if he is a muslim, he escapes hell automatically? These people are so delusional.

no mumin(true believers) go taste hell fire but muslims with bad evil action may go to hell but not forever,but unbelievers them go roast in hell

change to muslim and be saved

Godbest:
A 2,000-year-old copy of the Ten Commandments, the oldest known complete version, has gone on display for the first time in Israel.It is part of an exhibition at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem dedicated to pivotal objects in human history, from prehistory to the present.According toArtsBeat,the scroll, which belongs to the Israel Antiquities Authority, is dated between the years 30 B.C. and 1 B.C.It was discovered along with other Dead Sea Scrollsin the mid-20th century in Khirbet Qumran, an archaeological site near the shores of the Dead Sea that proved to hold a rich trove of ancient texts, including the oldest known versions of the Hebrew Bible.Because of its delicate state the parchment document has gone on display only rarely, including on a recent trip to the United States.The scroll will be shown for about four weeks, after which the museum will return it to a more protectedenvironment and display a facsimile, a spokeswoman for the museum said.The exhibition, “A Brief History of Humankind,” which marks the museum’s 50th anniversary, includes a number of ancient documents from the museum’s collection, including some of the world’soldest coins and some of the first known stone tools. It runs through January 2.

to the bold.

When we dey tell xtians that buybull is incomplete,dem go dey argue can u see the bold now?

Godbest:
i really believe that Christianity is the oldest religion on earth,
Can you imagine 2000 year old copy of the Bible,
if Christianity is the oldest then it the true way to God

i like Christianity because it show fact, figure, record and prove

#christian for Jesus Christ

mumu u cann't differeciate btw jewish book(10 commandment) and xtian book(new testament)

i like Christianity because it show fact, figure, record and prove

hnmmmm indeed but show me life time of jesus frm 13yrs old to 32yrs old

pls i dey wait hooo

amiskurie:
Is this supposed to be a kind of counter?




Meanwhile, im waiting for foreigners to sing hausa, Fulani and other's songs.

mumu

Ifeann:
[size=13pt] YOU LIE, OR PERHAPS IGNORANT OF YOUR QURAN[/size]

Martyrdom is a bad euphemism for suicide. And as far as I know Islam is the only religion that approves this.

Muslims often say that (terrorist) killings and suicide bombings are prohibited in Islam well there is no mention of suicide bombing in the quran, obviously, there wasn't that method of warfare in 7th century Arabia;
but what of the prohibition of suicide. Well technically it is allowed, but on this one tiny technicality- it should be in the cause of their god, allah.
If a muslim takes a gun and blows his head off it is suicide and frowned upon in Islamic circles and I dare to say amongst most circles. POPdecorator do u see the difference.

However a muslim dying in the process of trying to kill the kafir (unbelievers ) and those spreading corruption in the land and in the cause of allah's will is not considered suicide. No muslim can refute this, if (s)he does this then (s)he contradicts and disowns the quran.

Death in the cause of allah's will is encouraged, supported and promoted as well as fully endorsed in Islam. Let's look at some quran verses and one or two narratives from the hadiths, sahih muslim and sahih burhari, 2 of the most respected and authenticated sources in Islam.

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF ALLAH, BE HE SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD"

Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the
Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to earn the pleasure of Allah..."

Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement."
This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including verses 44:54 and 52:20.
For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19.

Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, EXCEPT BY RIGHT"
An important verse that is used by Muslims to not only justify their own deaths, but that of other bystanders who might be believers as well. Like we saw 2days ago when the Muslims in Paris killed a muslim police officer in their quest to avenge their prophet. The end justifies the means, with the goal being the defeat of the kafir, their submission and finally the establishment of Islamic rule.

Qur'an 3:151
Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah...

Mohammed was the original terrorist.
Qur'an 8:89
And fight with them until there is no more filna(disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah

This is just a little taste of the evil commands in the quran which encourages persecutions, intolerance and prejudice.

Now From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred in allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death.


Please Muslims come and deny again that Islam does not encourage terrorism and throw your insults as usual. The truth has once again been brought to you.

i have heard and read abut these verses and it's well clear to me but cann't clear to u bcs u are a propagandist
and u can only see the other side of quran


abut the verses u called killing verses
shey u want me to show u for buybull?

Demmzy15:
Alhamdullahi, Ameen brother. May Allah continue to be with you!

ameen tanx

ZKOSOSO:
......and your muslim brothers are killing, stealing, ra'ping and destroying people all over the world. Which is better

Guy, park well.....nobody forces U to give.....

as ur pastors molesting, raping, and also drug trafficing

Omotayor123:
I am a Practising Muslima... But d Op is very wrong on this. Most xtian also prayed and voted for Buhari's victory..
So what da fucck!

likewise more muslims did for jonathan to win

Ur pastors dey get richer and u tith payers are geting poorer

xtianity na scam

ZKOSOSO:
WELL...........since nobody knows the actual meaning of the word...... and nature abhors vacuum..... leme help out....
It means MohamMAD and his Allaah are birds of same feather called MURDERERS, LIARS and ChildAssKnackers!!

No Vex . Na so ma mind de provok for profMoh dis days cos of wetin him create for humanity.

u are nothing but hell fire fuel unless u are a muslim

truthman2012:
I have searched for the meaning, nobody is certain about it. It shows the words are not arabic contrary to allahh's claim.

do u think shey na every scholars have site or upload their books on website?

malvisguy212:
muhammed and Allah are one?

no

Omotayor123:
Mumu Op

is dis wat ur buybull thought u?

@Op am really gratefull for this good word ALLAH will grant u FRIDAOUS janana and me and every muslim in the world
ammmeeeennn

truthman2012:
I have searched google, none of your islamic scholars could explain the meaning.

When allah says the quran is a clear arabic speech and we discover it is not completely arabic, it shows he was not saying the truth.

[Quran 16:103 YusufAli] We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.

Quran 16:103 Pickhal] And We know well that they say: Only a man teacheth him. The speech of him at whom they falsely hint is outlandish, and this is clear Arabic speech.

But we know, quran is not purely arabic speech as it contains foreign and unknown languages. People at that time accussed Muhammad of such, which allahh denied.

If it is a clear arabic as claimed by allahh, how come some interpretations are hidden and only he knows them?

Quran 3:7 YusuAli] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its HIDDEN MEANINGS, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

One of the hidden meanings known to allahh only is the verse 2:1 above.

What is the reason behind allah hidding some quranic meanings other than DECEPTION? May God deliver the muslims from islamic deception.

some scholar says alif and lam means ALLAH and mim means muhammed(SAW)
but Allah knows best

In isreal xtian be like mumu there bcs isreal is jewish country and dey don't fancy all that nonsense

If xtianity is a true religion why cann't dey(xtian) follow their scripture in everything they are during?
Female bishop but not in buybull

1 Timothy 2:12 ►
Parallel Verses
New International Version
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.


1 Corinthians 14:34 ►
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Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

Any xtian to defend it

emrain:
terrorism has increased too. between 2003 and now.

and raping and deception are reducing

enilove:
Fastest growing religion means that more people are accepting the religion more than the rate people accept other religion . This is just the sign that all Muslims would end up in hell because it is written that :

Matthew 7:13-15 KJV
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and MANY THERE BE WHICH GO IN thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW THERE BE THAT FINT IT . [15] Beware of FALSE prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening WOLVES.


Jesus is the way the truth and the life ,believe him and live.

yes he's the way and the truth during his tym but now
acorrding to buybull he's the way to hell

nedu2000:
Did they convert by their own volition or with a gun to their head?

am a convert muslim,freely

Alhamdulilha am a muslim

dolphinheart:
@ POPsecorator

Now let's analyze ur post line by line and bring out the omissions and falsehood coated with sugar and inserted in it .




When Francisco Mitra became
the president of France in 1981,


Lie 1. No Francisco mitra became president of France in 1981.
Pls correct that lie . I believe that the lie on the name of the french president in 1981 was changed so that people , expecially gullible muslims wunt be able to investigate easily.

Lie 2. There is no empherical prove that France requested the Egyptian government to host the mummy of Pharaoh for the purpose of running laboratory and archaeological examinations on the mummy of the most notorious dictator ever lived on earth.
But there is prove that the Egyptians requested France to help preserve the mummy cus it was deteorating at a fast rate. Due to infection caused by tomb raiders who had earlier discovered where the body was. The assertion is buttressed by these statement in ur post : "Scientists were trying to restore the mummy while Professor Maurice was mainly concerned with how did this mummy die!". Can you see the contradictions caused by false claims in ur attempt to link the mummy and the koran.

Omission 1: you guys deliberately omitted the name of the pharaoh that buccaine examined . I believe this is deliberate so that people would not easily know which pharaoh was studied . With the development in science and study of acheaological evidence, the life, age, health condition and death of all the pharaohs mummies can be ascertained. Pls supply the name of the Pharaoh that bucaille tested .

Lie 3 . When you want to lie, pls make sure there are no loopholes ok .

U stated that : "And there, someone whispered to him that Muslims claim to know something about the drowning of this mummy.
Yet the Professor firmly denied
such thing saying that it’s
impossible to discover this
without the development of
science and without using his
high-tech and complicated
laboratories and computers.
To his surprise, he was told that
Muslims believe in a book
called “Quran” and this Quran
narrates the story of Pharaoh’s
drowning and ensures the
safety of his body after his
death as to be a Sign to
mankind. The Professor
couldn’t believe his own ears
and started to wonder: "

Bucaille was born on 19 July 1920, In 1973, Bucaille was
appointed family physician to
king Faisal of Saudi Arabia.
Another of his patients at the
time included members of the
family of then President of
Egypt, Anwar Sadat. That is, at the age of 53 he was close the the rulers of two great Islamic countries and was even there personal physician . How can you them say that at age 61 or later (1981), he was suprised and did not know about the koran until an unknown person(omission 2) whispered into his hear. Haba !

Let's go on . In this website

http:m.islamicbulletin.org/?url=http%3A 2F2Fwww.islamicbulletin.org%2Fnewsletters%2Fissue_6%2Fembraced.aspx#2854

It is stated that bucaille started studying the quran at age 50 (1970). So he acting suprised on hearing about the koran years later is a blatant lie , and to cover the lie , the name of the whisperer was not mentioned so that people wunt investigate .

There are more lies and omissions in ur post but ill wait and see if you attempt to deny the one I posted .

And for other guys who believe this bucaille story . Pls add the name of the pharaoh he examined and the other omissions .

Lastly , salt is found in high quantity in the body of all the pharaohs . Its an essential ingridient used in their mummification .

u get dis post frm "answeringislam" site i also know but na lie answer to ur number 2 na lie
that is a fabrication go to google and type did "France requested the Egyptian government to host the mummy of Pharaoh" u will get the answer inshala

dolphinheart:
@ POPsecorator

Now let's analyze ur post line by line and bring out the omissions and falsehood coated with sugar and inserted in it .




When Francisco Mitra became
the president of France in 1981,


Lie 1. No Francisco mitra became president of France in 1981.
Pls correct that lie . I believe that the lie on the name of the french president in 1981 was changed so that people , expecially gullible muslims wunt be able to investigate easily.

Lie 2. There is no empherical prove that France requested the Egyptian government to host the mummy of Pharaoh for the purpose of running laboratory and archaeological examinations on the mummy of the most notorious dictator ever lived on earth.
But there is prove that the Egyptians requested France to help preserve the mummy cus it was deteorating at a fast rate. Due to infection caused by tomb raiders who had earlier discovered where the body was. The assertion is buttressed by these statement in ur post : "Scientists were trying to restore the mummy while Professor Maurice was mainly concerned with how did this mummy die!". Can you see the contradictions caused by false claims in ur attempt to link the mummy and the koran.

Omission 1: you guys deliberately omitted the name of the pharaoh that buccaine examined . I believe this is deliberate so that people would not easily know which pharaoh was studied . With the development in science and study of acheaological evidence, the life, age, health condition and death of all the pharaohs mummies can be ascertained. Pls supply the name of the Pharaoh that bucaille tested .

Lie 3 . When you want to lie, pls make sure there are no loopholes ok .

U stated that : "And there, someone whispered to him that Muslims claim to know something about the drowning of this mummy.
Yet the Professor firmly denied
such thing saying that it’s
impossible to discover this
without the development of
science and without using his
high-tech and complicated
laboratories and computers.
To his surprise, he was told that
Muslims believe in a book
called “Quran” and this Quran
narrates the story of Pharaoh’s
drowning and ensures the
safety of his body after his
death as to be a Sign to
mankind. The Professor
couldn’t believe his own ears
and started to wonder: "

Bucaille was born on 19 July 1920, In 1973, Bucaille was
appointed family physician to
king Faisal of Saudi Arabia.
Another of his patients at the
time included members of the
family of then President of
Egypt, Anwar Sadat. That is, at the age of 53 he was close the the rulers of two great Islamic countries and was even there personal physician . How can you them say that at age 61 or later (1981), he was suprised and did not know about the koran until an unknown person(omission 2) whispered into his hear. Haba !

Let's go on . In this website

http:m.islamicbulletin.org/?url=http%3A 2F2Fwww.islamicbulletin.org%2Fnewsletters%2Fissue_6%2Fembraced.aspx#2854

It is stated that bucaille started studying the quran at age 50 (1970). So he acting suprised on hearing about the koran years later is a blatant lie , and to cover the lie , the name of the whisperer was not mentioned so that people wunt investigate .

There are more lies and omissions in ur post but ill wait and see if you attempt to deny the one I posted .

And for other guys who believe this bucaille story . Pls add the name of the pharaoh he examined and the other omissions .

Lastly , salt is found in high quantity in the body of all the pharaohs . Its an essential ingridient used in their mummification .

u get dis post frm "answeringislam" site i also know but na lie answer to ur number 1 question

François Mitterrand
(1916–1996) Socialist Party [ 27 ]2121 May 198117 May 1995
1981, 1988
Candidate of a united left-wing ticket in the 1965 election, he founded the Socialist Partyin 1971. Having narrowly lost the 1974 election, he was finally elected in the 1981 election. He instigated several reforms (abolition of the death penalty, a fifth week of paid leave for employees). After the right-wing victory in the 1986 legislative elections, he named Jacques ChiracPrime Minister, thus beginning the first cohabitation. Re-elected in the 1988 electionagainst Chirac, he was again forced to cohabit with Édouard Balladurfollowing the 1993 legislative elections. He retired in 1995 after the conclusion of his second term. He was the first President elected twice by universal suffrage, he was the first left-wing President of the Fifth Republic, and his Presidential tenure was the longest of the Fifth Republic

kay1one2:
...

u dey search for the answer frm google?

dalaman:
It still remains a prediction that may or may not happen. An asteroid can collide with the planet and end all life before 2050, a world war could break out, the rate at which they projected Islam to grow could slow down for various reasons. It is a waste of time to depend on such projections because many have been made and they never saw the light of the day.

hope u will believe this

“Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion.In 1990, 935 million people were Muslims and this figure had escalated to around 1.2 billion by 2000, meaning that around one in five people follow Islam. Although the religion began in Arabia, by 2002 80% of all believers in Islam lived outside the Arab world.In the period 1990-2000, approximately 12.5 million more people converted to Islam than to Christianity”([b]Guinness World Records[
/b] 2003, pg 102)

kay1one2:
The only thing I can tell from the general election and your post is that allah must be a retard to have losers like you on its team!
Find out what democracy represents and discover that it doesn't give any religion a free way to thrive! Except if there's a mixture of church and state like in Brazil which won't change the hearts of people to be more upright.
Religions work on kingdoms not democracies!

have u heard abut some audio from redeem church aditorium against buhari and what of gate of hell keeper speech
u know this and u against buhari bcs of his religion?

kay1one2:
The only thing I can tell from the general election and your post is that allah must be a retard to have losers like you on its team!
Find out what democracy represents and discover that it doesn't give any religion a free way to thrive! Except if there's a mixture of church and state like in Brazil which won't change the hearts of people to be more upright.
Religions work on kingdoms not democracies!

have u heard abut some audio from redeem church aditorium against buhari and what of gate of hell keeper speech
u know this and u against buhari?

dalaman:
This is just a projection, it may or may not come to pass. Nigeria was projected to divide by the the CIA and it was reported by the same western media including the CNN by 2015. Instead Nigeria held one of the most credible elections in its history in 2015 same year it was projected to disintegrate. The country isn't going to divide and their projection was false. This one could be false as well.

the prediction abut nigeria can still comes to pass after all we are still in 2015


to defend dis post go to one of my thread"islam is the fastest growing religion in the world by................