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neutralmind:
I disagree with the Wike part.

PDP is in control of the South East and South South.

They have 1 state in the South West. They have lots of members in the Legislature.

He is the biggest spender in the party as it stands today. Which he is aware of, and uses that edge to steer the party activities. PDP controls other states, but how many of those states are ready to fund PDP heavily.

HacheNoire:
He is the biggest spender in the party as it stands today. Which he is aware of, and uses that edge to steer the party activities. PDP controls other states, but how many of those states are ready to fund PDP heavily.

Let's see how the entire drama will play out.

I still believe PDP has a good chance at the polls in 2023 if they play their cards right.

Olawepo , I know you very well in our school days.You better keep quiet.,less I expose you !

Driggs:
If PDP pair Peter Obi and Makinde together lasan.

that's when you will know that All serious politicians must be in PDP..


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Apart from south east, which other region will the ticket win?

ehh

Olawepo Hassim cancels rotation of presidency.

He cites MKO Abiola and Olusegun Obasanjo as having constructed right political alliances that enabled both win.


But the political structure of Nigeria has not been skewed in favor of north when Abiola purportedly won the election.

What political alliance did Obasanjo who was in Kuje prison form, when Alex Ekwueme with his group of 33 formed PDP, extracted power from the military, thereafter, Obasanjo was released from prison by northern military dictators who funded and supported his run for presidency?

The shophistiWretched Olawepo with his group campaigning for Yoruba president in 2023 now cancel rotation, because it’s the turn of the SE to produce successor to PMB.

In other words, north shall retain the office of president after PMB.

you are not a serious politician

seunmsg:
Apart from south east, which other region will the ticket win?

Southwest
North central
Southeast
Southsouth

And they will pull/share votes in north east and northwest

seunmsg:
Apart from south east, which other region will the ticket win?

Why apart from the SE?

For rotation and justice sake, both APC and PDP need to have presidential candidates from the SE for the 2023 presidential election.

We did similar things for the SW in 1999
when we placed Obasanjo and Falae on the presidential ticket of each of the two largest political parties then, to ensure that a Yoruba utilized rotation to emerge president of Nigeria then.

In today’s political structure of Nigeria, if north fields a northern presidential candidate in any of the two largest political parties, while a southern presidential candidate contests from the other largest political party, the northern presidential candidate must win the election.

Driggs:
Southwest
North central
Southeast
Southsouth

And they will pull/share votes in north east and northwest

onuman:
In today’s political structure of Nigeria, if north fields a northern presidential candidate in any of the two largest political parties, while a southern presidential candidate contests from the other largest political party, the northern presidential candidate must win the election.

Good point

onuman:
Olawepo Hassim cancels rotation of presidency.

He cites MKO Abiola and Olusegun Obasanjo as having constructed right political alliances that enabled both win.


But the political structure of Nigeria has not been skewed in favor of north when Abiola purportedly won the election.

What political alliance did Obasanjo who was in Kuje prison form, when Alex Ekwueme with his group of 33 formed PDP, extracted power from the military, thereafter, Obasanjo was released from prison by northern military dictators who funded and supported his run for presidency?

The shophistiWretched Olawepo with his group campaigning for Yoruba president in 2023 now cancel rotation, because it’s the turn of the SE to produce successor to PMB.

In other words, north shall retain the office of president after PMB.

Olawepo is part of that G34 group and majority didn't support Ekweme

onuman:
Olawepo Hassim cancels rotation of presidency.

He cites MKO Abiola and Olusegun Obasanjo as having constructed right political alliances that enabled both win.


But the political structure of Nigeria has not been skewed in favor of north when Abiola purportedly won the election.

What political alliance did Obasanjo who was in Kuje prison form, when Alex Ekwueme with his group of 33 formed PDP, extracted power from the military, thereafter, Obasanjo was released from prison by northern military dictators who funded and supported his run for presidency?

The shophistiWretched Olawepo with his group campaigning for Yoruba president in 2023 now cancel rotation, because it’s the turn of the SE to produce successor to PMB.

In other words, north shall retain the office of president after PMB.

Look, I believe that the Presidency should be won by merit. Now, there are times when you have to be sensitive to what is going on. At a point in time when you have a crisis and political leaders get together and say, ‘okay, for the purpose of the crisis we are facing, let us try to work out these arrangements.’ But then, you cannot impose that on anybody. And that was what happened in 1998, when some Northern leaders with whom we formed the PDP were trying to say ‘okay, let us try and get a candidate from a specific zone.’ It was not formalised.

The proposition came from the North. Either of those leaders of the party with whom we formed the party then could have become the President. Alhaji Adamu Ciroma, Alhaji Bamanga Tukur, Prof Jubril Aminu, Prof Jerry Gana, Dr Iyochia Ayu, all these people from the North are with big profiles. They could have been President at that time. Because some people were trying to reduce the annulment of the June 12 election to be something targeted against a particular ethnic group, they said ‘let’s go to that zone and pick somebody.’

They were not really routing for Obasanjo then. I was in all those meetings. I was one of the youngest among those old men in those days. The prevalent sentiment was to go for Olu Falae. But Olu Falae and the Afenifere team took a premature position of withdrawing from the PDP. Because they didn’t want to have a contest, they just wanted the party to say it has been zoned to them and they left the PDP prematurely. In fact, Alhaji Bamanga Tukur and Prof Jerry Gana were sent to go and talk to Chief Olu Falae that he should not leave the PDP. But, he said, ‘no, I will go with my Afenifere people’ and he went with them. And they had a smaller platform, because the PDP was a big party, so there was no way Afenifere would have won with AD. But I am not saying what they did was wrong. They still controlled the South West in that election and they still remained relevant as a voice. They have the rights as a political organisation to determine their strategy and tactics of engagement and what was important for them at any particular point. This is by no means judging what they did. I am only trying to enumerate what happened


So, what I am saying is that people can take such a decision, but you don’t come blackmailing other ethnic groups and say ‘it is our turn, you people have had your fair share.’ You need to cultivate understanding and even then, when people were saying that, I was not for that. I was for Alhaji Abubakar Rimi who contested until our group, the Social Progressives Platform, then, met and it was decided that we should support Obasanjo.

In that contest, there were many people from the North and everywhere that contested against Obasanjo, even though there was a preponderance of opinion. So, it was that opinion that swayed in his favour, it was not as if the party said nobody from any other zone could contest.

The division of the Presidency on an ethnic basis always causes its own division. The last time I checked, the only country that tried that at the executive level is no more; that was Yugoslavia. It has broken into pieces. This is because once you start that thing, there is no end to it. Because in Nigeria, we don’t just have Igbos, Yorubas, Hausas and Fulanis. Nigeria is made up of 350 ethnic groups. About 250 of them are in Northern Nigeria. So when you start this rotational presidency, the assumption is usually ‘Oh, once a Yoruba man has gotten it, the Fulani, Hausa and Ibo have gotten it, everybody is fine.’ That is not it. Under that your arithmetic, when will an Okun man in Kogi become President? When will a Nupe man become President? When will a Jukun become President?

Driggs:
If PDP pair Peter Obi and Makinde together lasan.

that's when you will know that All serious politicians must be in PDP..


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Both cant win more than SE

bilms:
Look, I believe that the Presidency should be won by merit. Now, there are times when you have to be sensitive to what is going on. At a point in time when you have a crisis and political leaders get together and say, ‘okay, for the purpose of the crisis we are facing, let us try to work out these arrangements.’ But then, you cannot impose that on anybody. And that was what happened in 1998, when some Northern leaders with whom we formed the PDP were trying to say ‘okay, let us try and get a candidate from a specific zone.’ It was not formalised.

The proposition came from the North. Either of those leaders of the party with whom we formed the party then could have become the President. Alhaji Adamu Ciroma, Alhaji Bamanga Tukur, Prof Jubril Aminu, Prof Jerry Gana, Dr Iyochia Ayu, all these people from the North are with big profiles. They could have been President at that time. Because some people were trying to reduce the annulment of the June 12 election to be something targeted against a particular ethnic group, they said ‘let’s go to that zone and pick somebody.’

They were not really routing for Obasanjo then. I was in all those meetings. I was one of the youngest among those old men in those days. The prevalent sentiment was to go for Olu Falae. But Olu Falae and the Afenifere team took a premature position of withdrawing from the PDP. Because they didn’t want to have a contest, they just wanted the party to say it has been zoned to them and they left the PDP prematurely. In fact, Alhaji Bamanga Tukur and Prof Jerry Gana were sent to go and talk to Chief Olu Falae that he should not leave the PDP. But, he said, ‘no, I will go with my Afenifere people’ and he went with them. And they had a smaller platform, because the PDP was a big party, so there was no way Afenifere would have won with AD. But I am not saying what they did was wrong. They still controlled the South West in that election and they still remained relevant as a voice. They have the rights as a political organisation to determine their strategy and tactics of engagement and what was important for them at any particular point. This is by no means judging what they did. I am only trying to enumerate what happened


So, what I am saying is that people can take such a decision, but you don’t come blackmailing other ethnic groups and say ‘it is our turn, you people have had your fair share.’ You need to cultivate understanding and even then, when people were saying that, I was not for that. I was for Alhaji Abubakar Rimi who contested until our group, the Social Progressives Platform, then, met and it was decided that we should support Obasanjo.

In that contest, there were many people from the North and everywhere that contested against Obasanjo, even though there was a preponderance of opinion. So, it was that opinion that swayed in his favour, it was not as if the party said nobody from any other zone could contest.

The division of the Presidency on an ethnic basis always causes its own division. The last time I checked, the only country that tried that at the executive level is no more; that was Yugoslavia. It has broken into pieces. This is because once you start that thing, there is no end to it. Because in Nigeria, we don’t just have Igbos, Yorubas, Hausas and Fulanis. Nigeria is made up of 350 ethnic groups. About 250 of them are in Northern Nigeria. So when you start this rotational presidency, the assumption is usually ‘Oh, once a Yoruba man has gotten it, the Fulani, Hausa and Ibo have gotten it, everybody is fine.’ That is not it. Under that your arithmetic, when will an Okun man in Kogi become President? When will a Nupe man become President? When will a Jukun become President?

Look, your long epistle could not have been if you had considered the fact that we share oil and gas revenues among the states in Nigeria, therefore we need to share (rotate) the presidential seat among the political blocks of Nigeria. Therefore, it’s turn of the SE zone to produce presidential candidates in the two largest political parties and succeed PMB, after the NW, SW, and SS have had their turns. Okun gets share from natural resources therefore Okun’s turn to present president for Nigeria shall come one day, unless you want Okun to take turns before the Igbo.

Since 1960, northern groups have ruled Nigeria till 1999, except the few years of Obasanjo who succeeded late Muritalla Mohammed.
The present skewed political structure of Nigeria also necessitates rotation of presidency among the zones, and by extension, the states.
One or two groups in Nigeria dominating apex political power in Nigeria by abolishing rotation is like asking for worse situation than the Yugoslavia you cited as example for Nigeria.
If you want functional Nigeria where no groups will bother to agitate to present president for Nigeria, sign up for political restructuring of Nigeria in a National Conference with conferees equally drawn from the three regions that formed Nigeria in 1960, to return to regional government system.

You are observant bro....you suck quality breast tire.

I took my Time and read thru, I must say he made a reasonable point but slacked in some points.

I know the north, will not want to be in power 2023,bet me. The cowards will want to give it to a weak Southerner they can easily bend and wil hand back power to them after a while.

THE NORTH ARE VERY CLEVER AND CRAFTY SET OF PEOPLE, NOBODY SHOULD SEE THEM AS FOOLS. THEY GET SENSE OO BUT WE THE WISE ONES, ALWAYS SEE THRU THEM.










[QUOTE AUTHOR=HEZZYLUV POST=100287129]THE MAN KICKED AGAINST ZONING OF PRESIDENCY, I.E IS ONLY HAUSA'S AND THE YORUBA'Z THAT KNOWZ HOW TO RULE THIS COUNTRY ABI?

[/QUOTE]

This man is a big liar.

In Somalia they have 6 ethnic groups. I may not name them completely but they have Hawiye,Darood,Madiban Dir and Isaaq.

All because u don't want to speak the truth u then think we cant spot ur lies.

U sounded like a paid agent.

Thank God everyone can see that APC is a party of idiots,in PDP days,the guys in same PDP attempted to remove Obasanjo severely and even Saraki were against Jonathan who happened to be in the same party with him...meaning there was true democracy during those days not until,these devil came into power and no one could talk nor criticize him and the people,irrespective of their religion and ethnicity are all wailing in despair.

[quote author= post=100287292]PDP in Nigeria again?![/quote]Shut up!

PLEASE IS THERE ANY INFLUENTIAL PDP NATIONAL PARTY MEMBER HERE? PLEASE CONNECT ME TO YOUR MAIN CAUCUS LET ME BE THEIR PRINCIPAL POLITICAL STRATEGIST AGAINST 2023.

PDP HAS been sleeping, they had chances to defeat Buhari but they kept on sleeping.

PDP should be documenting all the flaws, political blunders of APC and Buhari which are overwhelming. During next election, they should concentrate on the inadequacies and abject poverty Apc brought on Nigerians. This will really have positive impact on the Electorate and others.

I MEAN BUSINESS, I WANT TO WORK FOR PDP...GIVE THEM INSIGHTS ON THINGS THEY CAN DO I CANT WRITE BEFORE APC WILL ADOPT THE TACTICS.

Lastly the ball is in the Court of PDP, APC knows that....thats why they are preparing for the greatest historic rigging come next election.

neutralmind:
Let's see how the entire drama will play out.

I still believe PDP has a good chance at the polls in 2023 if they play their cards right.

bilms:
*No serious politician will join PDP- Olawepo Hashim*



https://punchng.com/attack-on-ortom-highlights-urgency-of-state-police-olawepo-hashim/

Who is this unity begger?

Rawhumper:
PLEASE IS THERE ANY INFLUENTIAL PDP NATIONAL PARTY MEMBER HERE? PLEASE CONNECT ME TO YOUR MAIN CAUCUS LET ME BE THEIR PRINCIPAL POLITICAL STRATEGIST AGAINST 2023.

PDP HAS been sleeping, they had chances to defeat Buhari but they kept on sleeping.

PDP should be documenting all the flaws, political blunders of APC and Buhari which are overwhelming. During next election, they should concentrate on the inadequacies and abject poverty Apc brought on Nigerians. This will really have positive impact on the Electorate and others.

I MEAN BUSINESS, I WANT TO WORK FOR PDP...GIVE THEM INSIGHTS ON THINGS THEY CAN DO I CANT WRITE BEFORE APC WILL ADOPT THE TACTICS.

Lastly the ball is in the Court of PDP, APC knows that....thats why they are preparing for the greatest historic rigging come next election.

No matter what pdp do,apc will still retain power

Who 'tolded' you?

APC has failed the country....

We are tired of these Old School Politicians though.

Either Sowore or Solido should be given the chance to rule.

Dont say no matter what PDP do, didn't I say APC is going to do historic rigging next election?

I have ideas to handicap APC next election, Nigeria is changing. Buhari won election cos people thought he would do better....he rigged second election easily because most people wanted to see if he had good plans for 2nd term.

If I can be at the centre of PDP strategy.....i can help to bring down APC. PDP has the capacity and resources as well. All I need is the link...i intend meeting Obasanjo. He is a man I have immense respect for.

Apc with its violence is not going anywhere, highest war breaks out, then everybody will answer his papa name.

garfield1:
No matter what pdp do,apc will still retain power

Rawhumper:
Dont say no matter what PDP do, didn't I say APC is going to do historic rigging next election?

I have ideas to handicap APC next election, Nigeria is changing. Buhari won election cos people thought he would do better....he rigged second election easily because most people wanted to see if he had good plans for 2nd term.

If I can be at the centre of PDP strategy.....i can help to bring down APC. PDP has the capacity and resources as well. All I need is the link...i intend meeting Obasanjo. He is a man I have immense respect for.

Apc with its violence is not going anywhere, highest war breaks out, then everybody will answer his papa name.

The only way to win APC is if apc divides or the person who emerges does so without buhari blessings

U ARE NOT GOD

As if All Promises Cancelled is any better.
They allow Herdsmen to maim, plunder and exterminate Nigerians.
They gave wings to terrorists to fly.
Only Fulanis and islamists are qualified to hold government positions in all ramifications.
They allowed Gumi to be spokesman for bandits.
Abduction of school children is now a joint venture between them and kidnappers.
Woe to them that shout change.