₦airaland Forum

PetroDolla2020:
As long as Ghana’s name features, we’ll be there to defend the Motherland We don’t give a fvck if this is a Kenyan or Sambisa thread, we’ll come and kick buttz Don’t come looking for our trouble, because we’ll give it back to you, pressed down and shaken together

Calm your big saggy tittayyys fool. This is just one of the cities in Eastern Africa that's light years ahead of your village. Let me not post Kigali cause I don't wanna crush your fragile egos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmIgCzVEKAc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpa4eVK42c

PetroDolla2020:
As long as Ghana’s name features, we’ll be there to defend the Motherland We don’t give a fvck if this is a Kenyan or Sambisa thread, we’ll come and kick buttz Don’t come looking for our trouble, because we’ll give it back to you, pressed down and shaken together

My guy have you seen Mogadishu of late You should cover your faces in shame and disappear into oblivion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buY4jQ4vpm0

Shackman, I duly converted that to dollars, roughly 400M dollars.

AfriqueDuZuid:
40 billion Kenyan shilling not dollars

rvp2018:
Flying coffin.Nigerian the ultimate zoo

Lol KQ is way ahead of airpeace but since KQ is losing steam and airpeace is growing the dynamics may change a few years from now. The weak position of many Nigerian airlines is a reflection of the harsh environment they operate in. But for now KQ is still top 5 in Africa though I must admit they are likely to continue losing their share of the market as airlines are coming up . In east Africa air Tanzania, rwandair and Uganda airlines are gradually taking control of their local markets and you have the might Ethiopian growing aggressively . In west Africa if Two or three Nigerian airlines succeed nobody will want to transit through east Africa

rvp2018:
Shackman, I duly converted that to dollars, roughly 400M dollars.

rvp2018:
Shackman, I duly converted that to dollars, roughly 400M dollars.

shackman is always confused and out of context. He is not mentally well ; .

Nigerian and Tanzanian drug pushers are feed tubing him with all sort of stuff - if you saw his famous pic on a ceiling less tin roofed shack - you cannot miss the tell-tale signs of drug usage. Apertheid was better - he'd just get by with African beer.

Shma2020:
shackman is always confused and out of context. He is not mentally well ; .

rvp2018:
Nigerian and Tanzanian drug pushers are feed tubing him with all sort of stuff - if you saw his famous video - you cannot miss the tell-tale signs of drug usage. Apertheid was better - he'd just get by with African beer.

What am I missing ?

Sorry, edited. It was a picture the shackman proudly posted. You can imagine for 3 years he'd been pressing folks here to post their pictures! You got to give him credit for very high almost delusional self-esteem. It's kind a south african thing - they imagine like American or Europe do that rest of us in Africa live on trees!!!!!!!! The shackman was definitely shocked nobody was impressed by his ramshackle - and the story changed - he was at his grand ma! giving her back massage! It's definitely a single bed self contained iron roofed hovel.

Shma2020:
What am I missing ?

KQ have been there - done that. But airline is such a serious business - I don't see Nigerians hacking. It would take Ethiopean kind of discipline to hack it. You got respect time and make sure nothing go wrong. Airline business has very little margin of error...and for long time KQ worked because KLM/Air france were running the most critical function. They were the strategic partners - and now KLM have pulled out - and KQ frankly is on her death bed.

My money is on Rwanda Air - replacing KQ - and joining Ethiopean Airline.

Tanzania and Uganda are not gonna hack it.

As for KQ future - Cargo may well save it - and the super profitable routes in Central and Western Africa - although Arabs airline are eating everyone lunch.

As for Air Peace - let us not dignify nonsense please. You can go to the US - pick abandoned airline for even 10 dollars (there is a whole thousand yard of abandoned airline) - repair them - and flying those coffins in Nigeria - but don't try that kind of joke abroad. Insurance alone - who will insure that crap? that doesn't even have working AC? Maybe it fly like Dafno or TROTRO . It can work on domestic route flying to very dangerous places - where airline can go down for any reason. Fly to Somalia or Chad or Darfur. Actually fly to Maiduguri - and take UN staff feeding the people there...they don't care if they die or live..it part of their job. That is how many airlines in Kenya operate flying to dangerous places.

abnot:
Lol KQ is way ahead of airpeace but since KQ is losing steam and airpeace is growing the dynamics may change a few years from now. The weak position of many Nigerian airlines is a reflection of the harsh environment they operate in. But for now KQ is still top 5 in Africa though I must admit they are likely to continue losing their share of the market as airlines are coming up . In east Africa air Tanzania, rwandair and Uganda airlines are gradually taking control of their local markets and you have the might Ethiopian growing aggressively . In west Africa if Two or three Nigerian airlines succeed nobody will want to transit through east Africa

rvp2018:
KQ have been there - done that. But airline is such a serious business - I don't see Nigerians hacking. It would take Ethiopean kind of discipline to hack it. You got respect time and make sure nothing go wrong. Airline business has very little margin of error...and for long time KQ worked because KLM/Air france were running the most critical function. They were the strategic partners - and now KLM have pulled out - and KQ frankly is on her death bed.

My money is on Rwanda Air - replacing KQ - and joining Ethiopean Airline.

Tanzania and Uganda are not gonna hack it.

As for KQ future - Cargo may well save it - and the super profitable routes in Central and Western Africa - although Arabs airline are eating everyone lunch.

As for Air Peace - let us not dignify nonsense please. You can go to the US - pick abandoned airline for even 10 dollars (there is a whole thousand yard of abandoned airline) - repair them - and flying those coffins in Nigeria - but don't try that kind of joke abroad. Insurance alone - who will insure that crap? that doesn't even have working AC? Maybe it fly like Dafno or TROTRO . It can work on domestic route flying to very dangerous places - where airline can go down for any reason. Fly to Somalia or Chad or Darfur. Actually fly to Maiduguri - and take UN staff feeding the people there...they don't care if they die or live..it part of their job. That is how many airlines in Kenya operate flying to dangerous places.

I dont want to totally right off nigerian airlines because upper middle class Nigerians are mobile and travel a lot. Also the population is large and the geographical position of Nigeria is good for aviation but the airlines are weakly capitalised as a result they cannot afford to buy modern efficient aircrafts. But I feel for some of the operators too. They borrow at 24% interest rate, they cannot lease, they operate at very ancient airports with poor infrastructure, they source for dollars on the streets, the pay huge premiums on insurance (due to thetype of aircrafts they operate ), they ferry aircrafts to MROs in europe, the unions are harsh towards them, the government is harsh towards them and so many other things working against them. Its as a result of these factors I don't want to bash them because as it is the foreign airlines will continue to dominate the nigerian market if all these issues are not resolved. But if these things are resolved some Nigerian airlines will stand a chance in the near future.

As for airpeace I've been frustrated by poor performance in area of punctuality and also disappointed that they made many mistakes other airlines previously made. However looking at the investments they are making I don't want to bash them too much. Even richard branson or delta (with their huge capital base) wont make that kind of investment in Nigerian aviation of today knowing the myriad of problems in the sector. It is for this reason that I try not drag them based on their many shortcomings (poor timing, poor customer service, unprofessionalism and others). I want at least two or three Nigerian airlines to do well in Africa.

The klm partnership was very expensive and while it helped them on one hand it also eroded their finances on another hand. The best bet for africans is to do things rights. No european or asian country will do it well for us without a heavy price

It not about money - it's about discipline and professionalism - airline is about keeping time - every second matter - and it about safety. Ethiopia is a poor country - and they do good job - because Ethiopians are incredibly disciplined people. Rwanda is small country but Rwanda Air is kicking arse. Both Rwandese and Ethiopians can hack military style discipline...for safety and time.

Nigeria airline should not rush to international market before they nail basic in the domestic market. The domestic market alone if developed is huge. Nigeria is huge country - twice kenya - and if prices are brought to compete with buses...that is a lot of money.

KQ's jambojet subsidiary flies you for 30 dollars - to Kisumu or Nairobi or Eldoret or Mombasa - and they are profitable. 30 dollars...is competitive with buses...who charge 15 to 20 dollars. In Europe no frill airliness fly you for 30 dollars to international destination. So Nigerian should concentrate there...Abuja to Lagos for 30 dollars!

Airline industry is very brutal. No margin for error. You'll lose your shirt.

abnot:
I dont want to totally right off nigerian airlines because upper middle class Nigerians are mobile and travel a lot. Also the population is large and the geographical position of Nigeria is good for aviation but the airlines are weakly capitalised as a result they cannot afford to buy modern efficient aircrafts. But I feel for some of the operators too. They borrow at 24% interest rate, they cannot lease, they operate at very ancient airports with poor infrastructure, they source for dollars on the streets, the pay huge premiums on insurance (due to thetype of aircrafts they operate ), they ferry aircrafts to MROs in europe, the unions are harsh towards them, the government is harsh towards them and so many other things working against them. Its as a result of these factors I don't want to bash them because as it is the foreign airlines will continue to dominate the nigerian market if all these issues are not resolved. But if these things are resolved some Nigerian airlines will stand a chance in the near future.

As for airpeace I've been frustrated by poor performance in area of punctuality and also disappointed that they made many mistakes other airlines previously made. However looking at the investments they are making I don't want to bash them too much. Even richard branson or delta (with their huge capital base) wont make that kind of investment in Nigerian aviation of today knowing the myriad of problems in the sector. It is for this reason that I try not drag them based on their many shortcomings (poor timing, poor customer service, unprofessionalism and others). I want at least two or three Nigerian airlines to do well in Africa.

Just30:
Fools posting ugly university from their backwater


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v38jUSSZh5U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO9tvuuGEY8

University of Ghana is a whole City on its own.

A mini City within a city

Nigeria need to fix domestic airlines first - have air ticket as competitive as bus ticket.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kenya-jambojet-idUSKBN1WA2OF

Like budget carriers in Europe and South Africa, Jambojet passengers only pay for seats. The airline charges extra for services such as baggage and meals, allowing ticket prices to compete with buses and trains.

rvp2018:
It not about money - it's about discipline and professionalism - airline is about keeping time - every second matter - and it about safety. Ethiopia is a poor country - and they do good job - because Ethiopians are incredibly disciplined people. Rwanda is small country but Rwanda Air is kicking arse. Both Rwandese and Ethiopians can hack military style discipline...for safety and time.

Nigeria airline should not rush to international market before they nail basic in the domestic market. The domestic market alone if developed is huge. Nigeria is huge country - twice kenya - and if prices are brought to compete with buses...that is a lot of money.

KQ's jambojet subsidiary flies you for 30 dollars - to Kisumu or Nairobi or Eldoret or Mombasa - and they are profitable. 30 dollars...is competitive with buses...who charge 15 to 20 dollars. In Europe no frill airliness fly you for 30 dollars to international destination. So Nigerian should concentrate there...Abuja to Lagos for 30 dollars!

Airline industry is very brutal. No margin for error. You'll lose your shirt.

There is a startup called green africa that is promising to offer cheap commute across the country using the fuel efficient ATR72-600. I believe that will bring down prices however the multiple charges to aviation agencies on each flight ticket issued in Nigerian may make lowcost travel a wishful thinking

Just30:
University of Ghana Medical School and it Medical Research facility

This is just the first phase of the project.
Waiting patiently for the entire project to be completed.

But most of airline taxes and levies are for international flights; for domestic flight; they should not apply. There is no reason why you cannot fly for 30 dollars o any part of nigeria - because the airline will take about 45 mins or 1 hour.

It's better than trying to compete with Emirates in the international market.

abnot:
There is a startup called green africa that is promising to offer cheap commute across the country using the fuel efficient ATR72-600. I believe that will bring down prices however the multiple charges to aviation agencies on each flight ticket issued in Nigerian may make lowcost travel a wishful thinking

vankelvin:
This is just the first phase of the project.
Waiting patiently for the entire project to be completed.

you know yaanom

vankelvin:
University of Ghana is a whole City on its own.

A mini City within a city

definitely

Just30:
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When new pics appear, will post them

The best answer to a foolish Kenyan elder

kofimoses:
I'm trying hard to understand this. I think I get part of this. What dialect in ghana is this?

Your name is Kofimoses and you want to know which dialect he posted on the page?

Kofimoses??

I'm not sure you are a Ghanaian

Wizzzzmike:
Dude if you don't understand alata fo) ma guy u no be Ghanaian

Exactly
He is one of them, always disguising themselves as Ghanaians.

Piaw, mo ne adwuma

PetroDolla2020:
As long as Ghana’s name features, we’ll be there to defend the Motherland We don’t give a fvck if this is a Kenyan or Sambisa thread, we’ll come and kick buttz Don’t come looking for our trouble, because we’ll give it back to you, pressed down and shaken together

Wuoche:
Why can't you defend it against the Chinese and Nigerians invasion?

If only there is such invasion happening in Ghana

Just30:
you know yaanom

Dem no dey see top la

So sad

vankelvin:
The best answer to a foolish Kenyan elder

He's an uneducated kid oo

vankelvin:
Dem no dey see top la

So sad

yeah



They wont humble themselves an ask for help too

rvp2018:
But most of airline taxes and levies are for international flights; for domestic flight; they should not apply. There is no reason why you cannot fly for 30 dollars o any part of nigeria - because the airline will take about 45 mins or 1 hour.

It's better than trying to compete with Emirates in the international market.

ENDORSEMENT/RESTRICTION : NON REF/NO END/NO SHOW APPLIES/VALID ON W3 ONLY
FARE CALCULATION AREA : LOS W3 PHC27.07 W3 LOS20.33NUC47.40END ROE412.200000
FARE : NGN 19,543.00
TAXES : NGN 6,542.00 QT NGN 2,478.00 NG1
SURCHARGES : NGN 30,000.00 YQ
SERVICE FEE : NGN 500.00 SF
OTHER FEE :
TOTAL : 59,063.00 NGN
PAYMENT : Card Payment 450073********67




Kindly find above from a domestic ticket I bought two weeks ago (port harcourt to lagos 45 mins). Look at the fare structure and the tax element as well as surcharges

that is damn expensive. in kenya you will fly with 10K naira.

abnot:
ENDORSEMENT/RESTRICTION : NON REF/NO END/NO SHOW APPLIES/VALID ON W3 ONLY
FARE CALCULATION AREA : LOS W3 PHC27.07 W3 LOS20.33NUC47.40END ROE412.200000
FARE : NGN 19,543.00
TAXES : NGN 6,542.00 QT NGN 2,478.00 NG1
SURCHARGES : NGN 30,000.00 YQ
SERVICE FEE : NGN 500.00 SF
OTHER FEE :
TOTAL : 59,063.00 NGN
PAYMENT : Card Payment 450073********67




Kindly find above from a domestic ticket I bought two weeks ago (port harcourt to lagos 45 mins). Look at the fare structure and the tax element as well as surcharges

Just30:
He's an uneducated kid oo

Just30:
yeah



They wont humble themselves an ask for help too

They think so high of themselves but notin give dem.

They are so so empty.

vankelvin:
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They think so high of themselves but notin give dem.

They are so so empty.

fortunately, most people have realised it now