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Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Sufferingboy(f): 10:58am On Apr 19, 2021
Clark is an old goat,let him speak for his people.
Ifeanyi okowa is an Ika man from owa clan and he can contest.
Peter Odili is a Ndokwa man,from Ndoni clan and he can contest.
Rotimi ameachi is an Ikwerre man and he can contest.
We have every right to contest.Perhaps,developers from east can comtest too,but they have high political aparty in east,so na who go vote them in east?
Developers from east want biafuro drug republic,nigeria is a zoo to them.They don't want presidency.
Oshimili and aniocha should not contest,they are the one clark is talking too.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Vinnie2000(m): 11:04am On Apr 19, 2021
lekki1444:
wow thats amazing my brother. you definitely did an outstanding job in clearing that up for me. kudos and salute to you. S o in essence there is a difference between an igboid ( someone who speaks igbo but if from certain delta and rivers tribe ) and an igbo ( someone indigenous to the SE )
Yeah, There is a Difference..

The South East Igbos are the Traditional Igbos..D ones we know are Business-minded n scatter in Nigerian towns n cities..They come from Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi, Abia and Anambra..

But some are close to Benue(Idoma areas) and Cross River..Diz ones are still Igbos!!

But Ikas in Delta have a language n culture of their own, same as d Ndokwas,, dats y dey don't want to be cald 'Delta Igbo' or Igbo..

However, in d same Delta State, D Aniocha/Oshimili group sometimes identify demselves as Igbos because dier areas are closer to Onitsha, Anambra state n dier language is almost d same as d Main Igbo!!..(Funny enough, some don't e.g JayJay Okocha n Okonjo-Iweala)..

The area Where Nzeogwu who killed Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa, etc came from is Okpanam n is in Asaba axis..Pple then said an Igboman killed Hausa politicians..

So, you see dat it's Quite Confusing n Complicated!!

Am not from Rivers State, so cannot say much on Ikwerre..
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by ariesbull: 11:06am On Apr 19, 2021
Aderewah:
Lol. This is how they'll be discriminated in biafra. When you want their land and oil, they're 100% igbo. But now, theyre igbo speaking Delta people.
Get sense ....Clark is an ijaw man saying the truth
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Joromi1: 11:06am On Apr 19, 2021
That's bad news for our blodas huh
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Ofunwa111: 11:08am On Apr 19, 2021
Vinnie2000:
Yeah, There is a Difference..

The South East Igbos are the Traditional Igbos..D ones we know are Business-minded n scatter in Nigerian towns n cities..They come from Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi, Abia and Anambra..

But some are close to Benue(Idoma areas) and Cross River..Diz ones are still Igbos!!

But Ikas in Delta have a language n culture of their own, same as d Ndokwas,, dats y dey don't want to be cald 'Delta Igbo' or Igbo..

However, in d same Delta State, D Aniocha/Oshimili group sometimes identify demselves as Igbos because dier areas are closer to Onitsha, Anambra state n dier language is almost d same as d Main Igbo!!..(Funny enough, some don't e.g JayJay Okocha n Okonjo-Iweala)..

The area Where Nzeogwu who killed Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa, etc came from is Okpanam n is in Asaba axis..Pple then said an Igboman killed Hausa politicians..

So, you see dat it's Quite Confusing n Complicated!!

Am not from Rivers State, so cannot say much on Ikwerre..
cheesy cheesy cheesy Another mentally unstable person
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Sufferingboy(f): 11:10am On Apr 19, 2021
Ika,Ndokwa,Ikwerre have every right to contest or the best thing is that GEJ should contest and complete his fours remaining.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by winterfell007(m): 11:10am On Apr 19, 2021
OpinionCounts:
Ikwerres are not ibos, they don't even speak ibo and most don't even understand ibo, when you want to talk about ibos in Rivers State you talk about the Opobos, Omuma, Etche, Bonny, ndoki and co, these ones speak and understand ibo, they have ibo lineage.
you are confused. Chibuike Amaechi is igbo in rivers. He said it severally on every fora he has the opportunity to speak. here's a link to YouTube where he spoke fluent igbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdaR-EEIng0&t=134s
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by lekki1444: 11:13am On Apr 19, 2021
Vinnie2000:
Yeah, There is a Difference..

The South East Igbos are the Traditional Igbos..D ones we know are Business-minded n scatter in Nigerian towns n cities..They come from Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi, Abia and Anambra..

But some are close to Benue(Idoma areas) and Cross River..Diz ones are still Igbos!!

But Ikas in Delta have a language n culture of their own, same as d Ndokwas,, dats y dey don't want to be cald 'Delta Igbo' or Igbo..

However, in d same Delta State, D Aniocha/Oshimili group sometimes identify demselves as Igbos because dier areas are closer to Onitsha, Anambra state n dier language is almost d same as d Main Igbo!!..(Funny enough, some don't e.g JayJay Okocha n Okonjo-Iweala)..

The area Where Nzeogwu who killed Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa, etc came from is Okpanam n is in Asaba axis..Pple then said an Igboman killed Hausa politicians..

So, you see dat it's Quite Confusing n Complicated!!

Am not from Rivers State, so cannot say much on Ikwerre..
wow this is a powerful history lesson. Hope you dont mind if i copy it and save it for myself so I can understand my sorroundings more and who is who. Thank you very much my brother. I salute
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Socialproject: 11:15am On Apr 19, 2021
That's why they fail exams...

Abascoh:
Dunce, did you even read the story?
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by chrisxxx(m): 11:20am On Apr 19, 2021
OpinionCounts:
Ikwerres are not ibos, they don't even speak ibo and most don't even understand ibo, when you want to talk about ibos in Rivers State you talk about the Opobos, Omuma, Etche, Bonny, ndoki and co, these ones speak and understand ibo, they have ibo lineage.
Bros God bless you ooooo. The Igbis themselves know that Ikwerre has no share in them. The language is not the same. Dont change the Ikwerre based on the Ikwerre in PH and some parts of Obio/Akpor where intermarriage and trading have diluted the language. Go to Emuoha and Ikwerre to hear undiluted Ikwerre.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by koning: 11:21am On Apr 19, 2021
Vinnie2000:
He has not Cleared anything for you but has rather Misinformed You!!

Am a Deltan and our Governor Ifeanyi Okowa is NOT an Igbo man!! He is an Ika man, though d language is of Igbo origin!! D Ikas do not like being Called 'Delta Igbo ' or Igbo'..

If You call dier Monarch (Dein of Agbor) Igbo man, You have committed High Treason!!!

Dorathy of BBNaija called herself 'Delta Igbo' in one discussion n her Ika pple in Nigeria/Diaspora skinned her alive on Twitter!!

So, Get it Right!!

Just dat Man is Naturally Greedy!! So, When Der is Something Juicy Up for Grabs, Ikas, Ndokwas, etc in Delta State quickly claim dey are Igbos to Try claim it..

In Actual Fact,they are NOT!!

Just Like calling Sir Alex Ferguson of Scotland 'British'!! He will tell you dat he is Scottish!!

So dats it, Bro!!
This analysis is not totally accurate. Sir Alex Ferguson is Scottish, but not English. He is however British.

That's exactly the situation with IFEANYI Okowa and all Igbos from Ika and the rest of Delta. Ika is to Igbos, what Abriba, Ohafia or Nkanu are to Igbos.

Ika is an Igbo clan situated outside core Igbo states. Do not forget that States were artificially carved out.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Nigercity: 11:21am On Apr 19, 2021
OpinionCounts:
I am not talking of strangers living in ikwerre land speaking ibo....I am talking about the pure ikwerre man and his language itself, it is not ibo and will not even be understood by any ibo person, the reverse is also the case, unlike the other ethnic groups I mentioned that speak total ibo language.
Ikwerre used to be said to be ibo before because then they were one big LGA together with the ibo speaking ethnic group Etche and Omuma, it was known as Ikwerre/Etche LGA, but after Etche and Omuma was separated, we now had ikwerre LGA, Etche LGA, and Omuma LGA, this took away the ibo speaking groups from ikwerre. What we have now as the present day ikwerre does not speak and can only barely understand ibo.

But I'm open to learning from you, if you can mention the ikwerre that speak ibo. Not strangers residing in ikwerre.
Oga I believe
Ikwerre is not Igbo

Although the have there own Igbo dialect of Igbo
But in pH almost everyone speaks Igbo (central Igbo) aside Pidgin
Even ijaw people that grew up in pH
Like preye, timaya or speaks and sing igbo
Most ikwerre people living speak Igbo more than there ikwerre dialect
That's why you have ikwerre people
Like Mercy chinwo, GGU, judikay and the rest that grew up in pH all speaking central Igbo fluently,
They even complain in there social media groups about how igbo language is taking over there native language,
Aside Pidgin English
Igbo language (central Igbo) is the most spoken language in pH.
But still
I don't see ikwerre as Igbo
Them too have said it
The are not Igbo
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by BabaIbo: 11:22am On Apr 19, 2021
Kebbiprince:
That former SGF, sen Anyim pius said same thing. Is there something we don't know. Are igbos in Rivers and Delta not same igbo as those in the SE?
Why are you making a simple thing difficult for yourself?

He wants SE region to produce the president, since SW, SS have produced past democratically elected president.
Any Igbo person from delta and rivers contesting is doing that under SS region.

And if you take time to read in between the line, you will understand he wants to put a stop to the divide and rule tactics being used on South as a whole.

If an Igbo person from SE contest, others from South will likely support him/her, but if another person from other regions contest, you should know what may happen.

It is similar to when a Yoruba man or woman from Kogi/Kwara is trying to run on SW ticket(turn). Be sincere, do you think it is right/proper?
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Naughtysex: 11:23am On Apr 19, 2021
computer0810:
We ipob are not interested in become d president, our only mission in 2023 is to make sure tinubu did not become president
That's not IPOB interest but your own interest
Real IPOB don't care about what happens to Tinubu or anyone else, they are only interested in how to actualize BIAFRA so stop causing issue unnecessary here
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Mrpojj(m): 11:23am On Apr 19, 2021
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Vinnie2000(m): 11:28am On Apr 19, 2021
lekki1444:
wow this is a powerful history lesson. Hope you dont mind if i copy it and save it for myself so I can understand my sorroundings more and who is who. Thank you very much my brother. I salute
Go Ahead, Boss!!

Am a Deltan and have travelled to almost parts of the state..

But of all these are mere calculations or Permutations..It is God that know who will be president!!..One Dark Horse might just clinch d Prize!!..

Personally, Like SmartPolician quipped, I will go for Sir Peter Obi for President in 2023..
He is Well Educated, Exposed, Articulate and also Accountable..

If Only, He could contest n win the PDP Primaries in 2023 ahead of Atiku Abubakar!!
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by OfoIgbo: 11:32am On Apr 19, 2021
While I understand and appreciate the issues of regional justice that Chief Clarke is pointing at, I also feel so disappointed for SS Igbos.

This is a huge prison for them, because when an opportunity goes to the entire SS, the minorities there will immediately blackmail the SS Igbos out of contention for the opportunity. This happened previously as is exactly why Peter Odili never became the president.

When an opportunity goes to the SE, our SS Igbo brothers are also kept out of it because they are not from the SE, meaning that the SS Igbos are held in a huge psychological prison, with an impregnable glass ceiling. How then will any SS Igbo become the president of Nigeria?

The SS Igbos have not exactly helped their cause by being too clannish and developing that minorities mentality. An Ikwerre man hardly sees himself as Igbo, and will very readily do harm to another Igbo clan as he doesn't see that Igbo clan as related to his clan. Obigbo massacre is a case in point.
An Ogba man sees an Ngwa man, exactly the same way he sees a Yoruba man. He will hardly acknowledge any relationship with the Ngwa man. All these help to ensure the SE man can't accept a SS Igbo man, representing him.
You want someone that behaves, acts and looks like you, to represent you. Not someone that hardly acknowledges any kinship with you.

Truth be told, at the moment I will not want an Ikwerre, Ogba, Ika or any such clans to represent the Igbos in Aso Rock. Ample occurrences have made me cold on that idea, the last of which is the Obigbo massacre. I know Igbos generally are now developing that stand point.

We know some of these anti-Igbo SS Igboids became the way they are through external forces that are hellbent on ensuring the Igbos are not united.

If Igbos are united, I doubt if the SE Igbos will have any qualms with a SS Igbo representing us. But enough suspicion has been injected into the relationship, resulting in the SE Igbos only wishing for a SE Igbo presidency.

Also due to the clannishness of some SS Igbo groups, a Rivers Ndoki man will rather have an Anambra president than a Rivers Ikwerre president.
A Rivers state Egbema man will prefer an Imo president than an Ogba man not minding that Ogba and Egbema are in the same LGA in Rivers state.
This is mainly because some of these SS Igbo clans have chosen to see the world as minorities, and are now more comfortable being insular and clannish.

I think to release the SS Igbos from the psychological political prison they currently abide in, within Nigeria, then there has to be real restructuring, so that they are placed with their genetic and cultural brothers and sisters to eliminate to issues of malevolent forces, forcing them to develop as minorities and encouraging them to severe cultural links with their brothers. It will also eliminate the political marginalisation that has been forced on them, by being placed where they clearly don't belong. They should be with their cultural and genetic brothers. Otherwise the fate of Peter Odili's presidential ambitions will be the eternal fate of any SS Igbo's presidential ambitions.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Sleekfingers:
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i dont give a shit where the president is from....as long as he is from the south......the north should stay clear......if the southeast want to contest under which political party? Because i dont see Pdp given them the presidential ticket.....and Apc will definitely not give them the ticket.....these are question beging answers
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Nigercity: 11:33am On Apr 19, 2021
lekki1444:
wow thats amazing my brother. you definitely did an outstanding job in clearing that up for me. kudos and salute to you. S o in essence there is a difference between an igboid ( someone who speaks igbo but if from certain delta and rivers tribe ) and an igbo ( someone indigenous to the SE )
They are all Igbos
Just separated during state creations
All Igbos in South south accept the Igbo
Tag
Except ika/ikwerre
So they're not Igbo
Although the speak Igbo (together with there own dialect of Igbo language)
And most of them outside there communities claims Igbo
But the are not
Even the so called Delta governor of Delta State claiming Igbo, even went as far as introducing igbo language in school curriculum is from ika

So he is not Igbo
He just did that
To win the other Igbo communities like Asaba,enuani and co in Delta
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by OpinionCounts(m): 11:35am On Apr 19, 2021
winterfell007:
you are confused. Chibuike Amaechi is igbo in rivers. He said it severally on every fora he has the opportunity to speak. here's a link to YouTube where he spoke fluent igbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdaR-EEIng0&t=134s
I guess he is also Yoruba since he bears Rotimi, and maybe Joe igbokwe is also Yoruba because he speaks Yoruba fluently, or you are British because you bear an English name...think before you talk, so that you don't end up calling others confused when you are the one wallowing in confusion.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by lekki1444: 11:36am On Apr 19, 2021
Vinnie2000:
Go Ahead, Boss!!

Am a Deltan and have travelled to almost parts of the state..

But of all these are mere calculations or Permutations..It is God that know who will be president!!..One Dark Horse might just clinch d Prize!!..

Personally, Like SmartPolician quipped, I will go for Sir Peter Obi for President in 2023..
He is Well Educated, Exposed, Articulate and also Accountable..

If Only, He could contest n win the PDP Primaries in 2023 ahead of Atiku Abubakar!!
I would definitely support a Peter Obi presidential endeavor but i dont think he is interested at all. he comes across as a very sensible classy guy. i mean i dont know him personally to know his dark sides but on the surface he looks like a very good candidate if we are to move this country forward. maybe we can make that Dr Adewunmi Adesina guy his VP. Now that will be a dynamic duo. but i am dreaming of course hehe. grin
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by lekki1444: 11:39am On Apr 19, 2021
Nigercity:
They are all Igbos
Just separated during state creations
All Igbos in South south accept the Igbo
Tag
Except ika/ikwerre
So they're not Igbo
Although the speak Igbo (together with there own dialect of Igbo language)
And most of them outside there communities claims Igbo
But the are not
Even the so called Delta governor of Delta State claiming Igbo, even went as far as introducing igbo language in school curriculum is from ika

So he is not Igbo
He just did that
To win the other Igbo communities like Asaba,enuani and co in Delta
Thank you for the input my brother. Salute
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by VictorUSA(m): 11:44am On Apr 19, 2021
In democracy u dnt tell some sets of people to contest or not to contest; but our democracy in nigeria, should i say rotational democry or democrazy?
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Deadlytruth(m): 11:45am On Apr 19, 2021
KingOKON:
.

I concur.
Every patriotic Nigerian should seek to pacify the Ibos just like they did Yoruba in 1999
Only selfish people like Tinubu will seek vain glory instead of a harmonious nation
Obasanjo was the candidate of choice of the North in 1999 and the Yorubas rejected him flat in that election. So how exactly was his candidacy meant to pacify Yorubas? Anyway the same North is flirting with the idea of the candidacy of Rochas Okorocha and OUK whom Igbos detest. I guess if either of them ends up being president in 2023 Igbos will be pacified?
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Invitationn: 11:45am On Apr 19, 2021
Jerryherd:
cool



Abeg PDP must give Ibos their Presidential ticket



.
grin
PDP said the south used 13 out their 16 years in power
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Igboid: 11:46am On Apr 19, 2021
Sufferingboy:
Clark is an old goat,let him speak for his people.
Ifeanyi okowa is an Ika man from owa clan and he can contest.
Peter Odili is a Ndokwa man,from Ndoni clan and he can contest.
Rotimi ameachi is an Ikwerre man and he can contest.
We have every right to contest.Perhaps,developers from east can comtest too,but they have high political aparty in east,so na who go vote them in east?
Developers from east want biafuro drug republic,nigeria is a zoo to them.They don't want presidency.
Oshimili and aniocha should not contest,they are the one clark is talking too.
Don't be silly bro.

Ika is not Igbo. Ikwerre is not Igbo too.
Ndoni is currently divided on their Igbo identity.

Okowa will contest when it's time for SS presidency. He would do so after he must have outcompeted Isoko, Urhobo, Ijaw,Ibibiod, Efik,Edo,etc candidates.
Same is applicable to Ikwerre.

We are speaking of SE presidency and since SE is dominantly atleast 99% IGBO is also same as Igbo presidency.
Which means that we Igbos in SE can choose to have a fellow Igbos from SS to represent us if we think there are better sellable candidates there.
Unfortunately, Ika and Ikwerre are not Igbos, so are not included.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by gidgiddy: 11:48am On Apr 19, 2021
Uchasa:
Many Ikwerres like me can speak Igbo(Isoma) because most of our matrilineal lineage were of the Igbo stock. Most of our grandparents married Igbos, but we are not Igbos!
Well I think that Ikwerres are confused people because we have a situation where the current Ikwerre Governor of Rivers, Nyesom Wike, says he is not Igbo, while the former Ikwerre Governor, Chibuike Amaechi, says he is Igbo

An Ikwerre man called Ihunwo Obi Wali is the current Deputy President of Ohanaeze, while the immediate past Secretary General was another Ikwerre man called Uche Okwukwu.

Some Ikwerres identify as Igbo, others do not. Ikwerres should go and sort out whatever identity crisis has engulfed them because one day, we may meet Ikwerres who claim to be Japanese
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Deadlytruth(m): 11:48am On Apr 19, 2021
Faber:
Nawa o
I thought there are only Igbos in South East.

If you are here and you have Igbo roots and still claiming Niger Delta. Your shame dey shame me o. Even the North know say all of una na Igbo. At the appointed time they will remind you that you are Igbo.
The North said that Igbo killed the premier of the North Ahamadu Bello. The man that killed him is Kaduna Nzeogwu from Okpanam in Asaba. Is Asaba not among the so called South South and Niger Delta?


Ask Odili, Amaechi etc, they will tell you better.
Ifeajuna who killed Balewa and hatched the whole coup plot was a native of Onitsha in the present SE.
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by Unified07: 11:58am On Apr 19, 2021
the are Igbos no doubts but they shouldn't contest because of the abnormal state creation....if an igbo man from rivers,delta, Calabar should contest yes he is an igbo but placed in South South and not south east...is a very wise word from Clark
Re: Edwin Clark: No Igbo-Speaking Person From Delta, Rivers Should Contest by kettykin: 12:00pm On Apr 19, 2021
Nigercity:
It's not Igbo presidency

It's south east presidency
They're seeking for

Anyway me personally
I don't have any problem with the South south Igbos contesting
I can accept Delta igbo excluding ika
And I also have no problem with Rivers Igbo except ikwerre

Anyway Edwin Clark is an Ijaw man
He should focus on his creeks
And stop doing attache by force
Which Ijaw people like doing
(Always trying to speak and claim Igbo, just like Asari, Hilda, good luck, timaya,preye and co faking Igbo)
Truth be told , it is time for South East , any other thing will be barefaced hatred for a section of the country even though as a south easterner i am no fan of the presidency but of restructuring or outright break up
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