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AfriqueDuZuid:
nice

Even towns like Rustenburg building better ones, well Rustenburg is considered a city due to its size, development and GDP of $9billion but in SA we call it a town

Anyway lemme mind my own business

Going by rvp's sentiments, you're implying that both ngara, Abuja and Accra are below Rustenburg ?


Anyway, I was just passing

rvp2018:
No Kenya is not broke like Ghana. This Pokouasi is 33M usd project funded by the Americans donation. Too poor.

We are spending 500M usd in suswa - from our taxes.

Yes, your country is too poor and that is why it doesn't have money to invest in it power and water supply systems.


Pokuasi Bsp is a 498 million dollars project and will be running 580 MVA transformers

Something that cant be found in your country.

We have spent 13 billion dollars on the Power sector from our taxes already.

I hope your country can do that level of investment.

The largest Transformers at BSPs in kenya are the medium range 350 MVAs

Edi0t, how much are you spending on your 3 million starving mudder fugger? How much?

You have 500 million to spend and yet your people are hungry, and you are begging IMF for loans, and yet you owe China billions of dollarz Oh dear oh dear

rvp2018:
No Kenya is not broke like Ghana. This Pokouasi is 33M usd project funded by the Americans donation. Too poor.

We are spending 500M usd in suswa - from our taxes.

68816419:
I swear,most especially Eastliegh, imagine that area generates 40% total IGR of Nairobi county yet it looks like a war zone.

How much does Makoko generate?

Rvp, the people you're debating with are not ready to reason. They are green with anvy and not even a slight effort in Your argument will change anything

See, if you want to see real jealous, just stay tuned .

Anyway... so guys, I don't think there is any country in Sub-Sahara Africa that can stand the projects going on in Kenya and that is a plain fact.

Lemme just narrow this down to Nairobi alone so as to avoid the looong argument.

Nairobi is currently bulding the tallest tower in africa(approved)

Nairobi is currently bulding the tallest apartment in Sub-Sahara Africa at 44fls.

Nairobi outside south Africa in Sub-Sahara Africa is bulding the most breathtaking roads in africa:- upperhill viaduct (elevated), Nairobi expressway way(eleveted with 9 interchanges, electronic traffic control systems , gold brt lanes, 14lanes at widest), ngong road (phase 2), Western bypass (10 interchange, 12 lane at widest, some sections will be eleveted) etc.

Affordable houses in ngara(including 8 skyscrapers)

Two rivers city.

Konza city - south Korea had just signed a contract to build one of the biggest science university in africa.

Etc etc etc.

rvp2018:
We are turning our Sowetto like low rise gov owned houses into high rises. I don't think after Nairobi has delivered say 100,000 units - Any Sub Sahara City will come close in terms of the size of the city. 500,000 units - that is huge - and that city of 2m people.

We are demolishing 17,000 Soweto like houses - so we can deliver more than 100,000 units. Phase alone will deliver 70,000 units.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQnTf5WdhBo

That was 2018, can you please show us latest updates and progress of the development

The entire donation is 498 from American Millenum Challenge (guys who built you only decent highway - George Walker Bush) - Pokuasi is 30MD usd.

You cannot spend 500m usd in one acre

Just30:
Yes, your country is too poor and that is why it doesn't have money to invest in it power and water supply systems.


Pokuasi Bsp is a 498 million dollars project and will be running 580 MVA transformers

Something that cant be found in your country.

We have spent 13 billion dollars on the Power sector from our taxes already.

I hope your country can do that level of investment.

The largest Transformers at BSPs in kenya are the medium range 350 MVAs

I know. They are twisting and turning unable to compete with barren country like Kenya. If only they could use the minerals wisely.

Shma2020:
Rvp, the people you're debating with are not ready to reason. They are green with anvy and not even a slight effort in Your argument will change anything

See, if you want to see real jealous, just stay tuned .

Anyway... so guys, I don't think there is any country in Sub-Sahara Africa that can stand the projects going on in Kenya and that is a plain fact.

Lemme just narrow this down to Nairobi alone so as to avoid the looong argument.

Nairobi is currently bulding the tallest tower in africa(approved)

Nairobi is currently bulding the tallest apartment in Sub-Sahara Africa at 44fls.

Nairobi outside south Africa in Sub-Sahara Africa is bulding the most breathtaking roads in africa:- upperhill viaduct (elevated), Nairobi expressway way(eleveted with 9 interchanges, electronic traffic control systems , gold brt lanes, 14lanes at widest), ngong road (phase 2), Western bypass (10 interchange, 12 lane at widest, some sections will be eleveted) etc.

Affordable houses in ngara(including 8 skyscrapers)

Two rivers city.

Konza city - south Korea had just signed a contract to build one of the biggest science university in africa.

Etc etc etc.

68816419:
That was 2018, can you please show us latest updates and progress of the development

Progress? Ngara is completed and sold off. Kariokor (Jeevanjee) 2,000 units are under construction. Shauri Moyo starting soon. Pangani too.

Phase 1 - 67,000 units
The first phase of the regeneration project, which is ongoing, concerns Ngong Road Phases I and II, Uhuru Estate, New Ngara, Old Ngara, Suna Road, Pangani, and Jeevanjee/Bachelor Quarters.

The Pangani project began last year as the flagship project for the first phase of the regeneration project that is aimed to put up between 10,000 and 12,000 housing units upon completion.

Phase 2 - has started with EOI
https://constructionreviewonline.com/news/kenya/affordable-housing-project-in-nairobi-nms-to-redevelop-10-county-government-estates/
As part of the second phase of the affordable housing project in Nairobi, the Nairobi Metropolitan Services (NMS) has earmarked 10 more County government estates for redevelopment. These estates include Bahati, Bondeni, California, Embakasi, Jericho, Kariobangi North, Lumumba, Maringo, Woodley, and Ziwani estates.

68816419:
That was 2018, can you please show us latest updates and progress of the development

rvp2018:
The entire donation is 498 from American Millenum Challenge (guys who built you only decent highway - George Walker Bush) - Pokuasi is 30MD usd.

You cannot spend 500m usd in one acre

The entire project is 498 million dollars with a 580 MV BSP and a 485 MVA BSP plus a 300 kilometer 330kv line from each of the BSP to Kumasi.

I'm yet to see a decent highway in kenya that can match the Motorway.



Just in case your dumb self don't know, Mida is a gov't of Ghana agency which is funded by Ghana, MCA and development partners.


When will kenya be able to raise a 13 billion dollars investment that is badly needed by it power sector, to modernise the power sector in your broke country?

Is 13 billion dollars too huge for your country to spend on one sector?

That kind of investment will bankrupt kenya.

WHY DO YOU LIE IN ERA OF INTERNET ??

MCC - from horse mouth - and I see the American slashed the funding - after you SCREWED UP BIG TIME - by cancelling IPP - you lost 190M on MCC - and got kicked out of Africa POWER

https://www.mcc.gov/where-we-work/program/ghana-power-compact

The original amount at compact signing in 2014 was $498 million, however the compact was reduced by $190 million in October 2019.

"Press Release

MCC Statement Regarding Termination of the Private Sector Concession by the Government of Ghana"

And the one ACRE POKOUASI sub station is small part of the American donation to help POOR GHANA.

Just30:
The entire project is 498 million dollars with a 580 MV BSP and a 485 MVA BSP plus a 300 kilometer 330kv line from each of the BSP to Kumasi.

I'm yet to see a decent highway in kenya that can match the Motorway.



Just in case your dumb self don't know, Mida is a gov't of Ghana agency which is funded by Ghana, MCA and development partners.


When will kenya be able to raise a 13 billion dollars investment that is badly needed by it power sector, to modernise the power sector in your broke country?

Is 13 billion dollars too huge for your country to spend on one sector?

That kind of investment will bankrupt kenya.

23fls Cascadia apartments in two rivers. One of the widest skyscraper in africa.

Yes, I think Two Rivers, is one best place to invest. I have seen some really cheap units. It's going to become a mini city. But someone need to dualize the entire Limuru road.

Shma2020:
23fls Cascadia apartments in two rivers. One of the widest skyscraper in africa.

20fls riverbank apartments, still in two rivers.

rvp2018:
Yes, I think Two Rivers, is one best place to invest. I have seen some really cheap units. It's going to become a mini city. But someone need to dualize the entire Limuru road.

Indeed, the loft residence is also topping up by now if I'm not wrong.

The Limuru road will be dualized.

rvp2018:
Progress? Ngara is completed and sold off. Kariokor (Jeevanjee) 2,000 units are under construction. Shauri Moyo starting soon. Pangani too.

Phase 1 - 67,000 units
The first phase of the regeneration project, which is ongoing, concerns Ngong Road Phases I and II, Uhuru Estate, New Ngara, Old Ngara, Suna Road, Pangani, and Jeevanjee/Bachelor Quarters.

The Pangani project began last year as the flagship project for the first phase of the regeneration project that is aimed to put up between 10,000 and 12,000 housing units upon completion.

Phase 2 - has started with EOI
https://constructionreviewonline.com/news/kenya/affordable-housing-project-in-nairobi-nms-to-redevelop-10-county-government-estates/
As part of the second phase of the affordable housing project in Nairobi, the Nairobi Metropolitan Services (NMS) has earmarked 10 more County government estates for redevelopment. These estates include Bahati, Bondeni, California, Embakasi, Jericho, Kariobangi North, Lumumba, Maringo, Woodley, and Ziwani estates.

WTF, i am only asking u to show me the demolished Soweto slums and the new projects built on it, not that over publicized Pagani projects

68816419:
WTF, i am only asking u to show me the demolished Soweto slums and the new projects built on it, not that over publicized Pagani projects

We would also like to know Makoko's IGR like I asked earlier.

rvp2018:
WHY DO YOU LIE IN ERA OF INTERNET ??

MCC - from horse mouth - and I see the American slashed the funding - after you SCREWED UP BIG TIME - by cancelling IPP - you lost 190M on MCC - and got kicked out of Africa POWER

https://www.mcc.gov/where-we-work/program/ghana-power-compact

The original amount at compact signing in 2014 was $498 million, however the compact was reduced by $190 million in October 2019.

"Press Release

MCC Statement Regarding Termination of the Private Sector Concession by the Government of Ghana"

And the one ACRE POKOUASI sub station is small part of the American donation to help POOR GHANA.

The US committed fraud and we booted them out of our power sector.
And the projects still went on with the Government of Ghana providing the funding shortfall through MiDA.

This fool must be thinking I'm a liar like him.


The Americans give us that money in other to buy their way into the Lucrative power sector of Ghana and we give them a red eye after taking their money.

There is not even a single 580 MVA bulk supply station anywhere in kenya.
That is a technology your country will never be able to acquire.

All your bulk supply stations run on 220mva

When your distribution service runs the latest switches and techs in the distribution network, you don't need big loand.

Pokuasi BSP is larger than all the BSPs in kenya.

go argue with your ketraco

@RVP , gallivant and Shma2020, please be objective and truthful to your selves, can you compare the level of development (Road Infrastructures, bridges, urban planning, landscaping, Bus terminals ) shown here by your fellow Kenyan with any county in Kenya ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOSklPAJCs

I meant South Africa soweto like estates. I didn't mean Soweto Slum in Kayole. Slum Upgrading and the whole shebang is quite difficult because the land is illegal. Most of the residence will eventually be demolished. Soweto slum I bet sit on riparian land. Kibera most of it reserve land of some sort - Railway, nairobi dam and ngong forest - and many roads reserve. So eventually about half of it need to be demolished - and the remainder upgraded.

Don't confuse SUP with AHP - Slum Upgrading- and Affordable Housing.

68816419:
WTF, i am only asking u to show me the demolished Soweto slums and the new projects built on it, not that over publicized Pagani projects

More diarrhea - you've lost a lot from that stupid decision - your benefactor - the US has really kicked your tiny butt around.

One acre substation cannot compare to many in Kenya - big ones Suswa, Isinya, Olessos - these contain power from our main power - and regionally with Ethiopia, Uganda and Tanzania.

Suswa is like the main natioanl substation - bigger than anything in SSA Africa outside South Africa I bet.

Isinya - has capacity of 1200MW - and supply Nairobi with Geothermal and Ethiopia/Tanzania power.

Olesoss - supply western power and interlink with Uganda.

Just30:
The US committed fraud and we booted them out of our power sector.
And the projects still went on with the Government of Ghana providing the funding shortfall through MiDA.

This fool must be thinking I'm a liar like him.


The Americans give us that money in other to buy their way into the Lucrative power sector of Ghana and we give them a red eye after taking their money.

There is not even a single 580 MVA bulk supply station anywhere in kenya.
That is a technology your country will never be able to acquire.

All your bulk supply stations run on 220mva

When your distribution service runs the latest switches and techs in the distribution network, you don't need big loand.

Pokuasi BSP is larger than all the BSPs in kenya.

go argue with your ketraco

You raised my expectation only to see the usual integrated slumpolis - and Trotro. You can never compare Kenya Urban and Rural Areas to the entire West Africa.

I was expecting something half decent like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_SqMuGzRtU

68816419:
@RVP , gallivant and Shma2020, please be objective and truthful to your selves, can you compare the level of development (Road Infrastructures, bridges, urban planning, landscaping, Bus terminals ) shown here by your fellow Kenyan with any county in Kenya ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOSklPAJCs

68816419:
@RVP , gallivant and Shma2020, please be objective and truthful to your selves, can you compare the level of development (Road Infrastructures, bridges, urban planning, landscaping, Bus terminals ) shown here by your fellow Kenyan with any county in Kenya ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOSklPAJCs

DON'T DRAG ME INTO GHANAIAN THINGS. IF YOUR COUNTRY CAN'T MATCH THAT IS NONE OF MY BUSINESS.

64 dude.

This rural kenya - Nakuru to Eldoret - by African traveller - you see the big difference.

I doubt in the entire west african you can even match that - see how well maintained, trimmed the roads are - and see a climbing lane at every hill - ensuring traffic flows fast.

Do you see any RAMSHACKLE of a car in our roads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpm2ZNFJt9c

rvp2018:
I meant South Africa soweto like estates. I didn't mean Soweto Slum in Kayole. Slum Upgrading and the whole shebang is quite difficult because the land is illegal. Most of the residence will eventually be demolished. Soweto slum I bet sit on riparian land. Kibera most of it reserve land of some sort - Railway, nairobi dam and ngong forest - and many roads reserve. So eventually about half of it need to be demolished - and the remainder upgraded.

Don't confuse SUP with AHP - Slum Upgrading- and Affordable Housing.

But your Government promised 500,000 homes would be built by the year 2022 as part of the Nation Housing Plan, how comes only less than 5000 unites has been built and all located at Pagani area?

68816419:
@RVP , gallivant and Shma2020, please be objective and truthful to your selves, can you compare the level of development (Road Infrastructures, bridges, urban planning, landscaping, Bus terminals ) shown here by your fellow Kenyan with any county in Kenya ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOSklPAJCs

That was a disappointment to watch.

68816419:
But your Government promised 500,000 homes would be built by the year 2022 as part of the Nation Housing Plan, how comes only less than 5000 unites has been built and all located at Pagani area?

How many units have been completed in Makoko?

I already explained - corona is one of the problems - we have started - that is most difficult. Gov was hoping to get 1B dollars annualy from kenyan by leving housing fund fee on salaries - court blocked that - so now it gone to private sector. There is already 26 BILLION DOLLARS committed.

68816419:
But your Government promised 500,000 homes would be built by the year 2022 as part of the Nation Housing Plan, how comes only less than 5000 unites has been built and all located at Pagani area?

Honestly what impresses these West African BONOBOS !!!!!!!!! ALL I SAW WAS TROTRO with UGLY SEATS all the journey.

If we give them rural kenyan roads they will run to admin to KILL THE THREAD AGAIN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpm2ZNFJt9c

gallivant:
That was a disappointment to watch.

rvp2018:
More diarrhea - you've lost a lot from that stupid decision - your benefactor - the US has really kicked your tiny butt around.

One acre substation cannot compare to many in Kenya - big ones Suswa, Isinya, Olessos - these contain power from our main power - and regionally with Ethiopia, Uganda and Tanzania.

Suswa is like the main natioanl substation - bigger than anything in SSA Africa outside South Africa I bet.

Isinya - has capacity of 1200MW - and supply Nairobi with Geothermal and Ethiopia/Tanzania power.

Olesoss - supply western power and interlink with Uganda.

We lost nothing and it was a smart decision to cancel fraudulent deals.

They can go to Kenya and commit those frauds but not in Ghana. We don't allow that here.

The US thought we will be dumb like Kenya where that they can boss around and loot.

Suswa station in kenya is a tiny 220MVA station it is not even worth comparing it to a 580MVA station.

Mention a station in Kenya that is even large enough to compare to the 485MVA Kasoa BSP and I will clap for your country.


After so many years of being independent, your leaders only now grew the brain to extend your power transmission lines to connect your villages and your northern territories and it neighbouring countries.


Suswa is a tiny 220MVA station, even the 375MVA Accra Central Bulk Supply station is larger than it.
Isinya is also a 220MVA station

you guys are a joke, anyway, you don't have much electricity to go round so how will you be able to built a BSP with even 400MVA capacity?

rvp2018:
Honestly what impresses these West African BONOBOS !!!!!!!!! ALL I SAW WAS TROTRO with UGLY SEATS all the journey.

If we give them rural kenyan roads they will run to admin to KILL THE THREAD AGAIN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpm2ZNFJt9c

Dumb kid


your fellow citizens says those VIP buses are far better than the once available in Kenya.