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MaxInDHouse:
You and i have a lot in common my brother!

The same thing happened to me but unlike you i was stubborn o. Do you know i left JWs for about two decades searching for another religion that's at least a bit closer to JWs because i found it demeaning carrying bags up and down to visit people who don't know me (univited)
So it's after going through so many religious beliefs including atheism that i discovered none makes sense except JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Was this is 20 years you join Islam and the military?

needanswer:
Me I don't have strength for interrogation , let them take it softly o

But you had strength to interrogate me?

Born in Islam nah!

rottennaija:
Was this is 20 years you join Islam and the military?

MaxInDHouse:
Born in Islam nah!

So you were born in Islam, then you join the jw, then left looking for a better performing group and return after 20 years? Please are you up to 50?

That's the drop of water from Lazarus's fingertip the rich man is begging for {Luke 16:24} instead of saying goodbye forever they're feeling ever thirsty for what is coming from JW organization (Father Abraham's bosom)
So i often used the experience of the intelligence to read their hearts, what i often do is tease them without directly answering their questions then you'll perceive how the demon unleashes terror in their hearts due to the spiritual thirst tormenting them.
And before you know it their brothers hiding behind the scenes will come out demanding you should answer their brother!

I just they laugh them, who say make them leave JW organization?

needanswer:
Me I don't have strength for interrogation , let them take it softly o

rottennaija:
But you had strength to interrogate me?

He was referring to more than one person, plus my statement had humor in it.

52 to be precise!
I already had doubts in Islam but nobody to answer my questions so i began looking for answers elsewhere including Buddhism, Churches, Atheism and any other religions that comes my way. So i met JWs in my early twenties studied with them for just few months and all my questions were answered except just one:
"Is there any other religion having all these answers that will not ask me to carry bags and preach from house to house?"
That's what took me more than twenty years so when i speak about JWs i'm 100% certain that you can never find another performing group not to talk of a better one!

rottennaija:
So you were born in Islam, then you join the jw, then left looking for a better performing group and return after 20 years? Please are you up to 50?

MaxInDHouse:
52 to be precise!
I already had doubts in Islam but nobody to answer my questions so i began looking for answers elsewhere including Buddhism, Churches, Atheism and any other religions that comes my way. So i met JWs in my early twenties studied with them for just few months and all my questions were answered except just one:
"Is there any other religion having all these answers that will not ask me to carry bags and preach from house to house?"
That's what took me more than twenty years so when i speak about JWs i'm 100% certain that you can never find another performing group not to talk of a better one!

So which other church did you join and for how long?

needanswer:
He was referring to more than one person, plus my statement had humor in it.

Next time, if you feel you do not have the patience to answer someone's questions, don't put them through the stress of asking your own question.

As you may have seen, there are serious people with serious things upstairs. If you need to get the attention of serious people, you need to up your game.

rottennaija:
Next time, if you feel you do not have the patience to answer someone's questions, don't put them through the stress of asking your own question.

As you may have seen, there are serious people with serious things upstairs. If you need to get the attention of serious people, you need to up your game.

I always insisted you keep it brief or concise. That doesnt make me unserious or you more serious.

needanswer:
I always insisted you keep it brief or concise. That doesnt make me unserious or you more serious.

Do you think your response was satisfactory? Do you think your response even addresses the questions I asked you?

MaxInDHouse:
He thought that will make any sense!
I have met a missionary who left the organization simply because he wasn't appointed as member of the Governing Body. My brother can you imagine i met this man even while i'm yet to get baptized?
After a lengthy chat with him he burst into tears because i made him feel that Jehovah still care for him no matter his condition. That's when he began telling me that his two sons are elders in their respective congregations and one is even the coordinator of his congregation!
The questions i asked him that brought tears out of his eyes:
"Who inculcated the truth in the hearts of your sons?" Deuteronomy 6:7
"Who is now battling to remove what you taught them from their hearts?"
"What do you think about Korah and his sons?"
Then he typed Please stop! stop!! stop!!! you're already making me cry!
My brother even i that has not shed tears ever since i became a soldier burst into tears that very day!

Had it been his children were not spiritually strong on their own(Matthew 13:21), they would have found every reason to leave Jehovah’s organization seeing that their pops who was a full-time servant had not developed resilience in the face of disappointment. That’s why we are ever encouraged to build and nurture our faith personally (Matthew 7:24-27, James 4:8.) and not look at the next person(Galatians 6:4) so that even though our children, father, mother, marriage mate or “best friend” in the congregation leave, we will remain ever steadfast in the truth. Ephesians 6:14

My brother, I shouldn’t even be on this thread so adiós.

rottennaija:
Do you think your response was satisfactory? Do you think your response even addresses the questions I asked you?

Yes it does. I have taken out time to highlight the key points in the 5 bullet questions you asked me for your ease. If you still dont understand my answer, point out the exact one.

DappaD:
Had it been his children were not spiritually strong on their own(Matthew 13:21), they would have found every reason to leave Jehovah’s organization seeing that their pops who was a full-time servant had not developed resilience in the face of disappointment. That’s why we are ever encouraged to build and nurture our faith personally (Matthew 7:24-27, James 4:8.) and not look at the next person(Galatians 6:4) so that even though our children, father, mother, marriage mate or “best friend” in the congregation leave, we will remain ever steadfast in the truth. Ephesians 6:14

My brother, I shouldn’t even be on this thread so adiós.

Last last, all of these are fake and will no lead anywhere. In their over 150 years of history, who has they led to God's kingdom before? None.

At the end of the day, they will still end disillusioned. The father got out after many years wasted. His child has continued, someday, along the line, one will see what the father saw and will leave. The others will not and will continue in self deception and the worship of the organisation.

That's exactly my point!

The day i got fed up with all religions and began contemplating Atheism some 28 years ago, i knelt down with the intention that that'll be the last day i will pray to some invisible person that i can never see face to face.
My prayer:
"God! God!! God!!! Do you truly exist? I'm asking you this question because i'm fed up with all these confusion and i'm about to debunk your existence. So if truly you exist i want you to prove yourself to me anyhow you choose to otherwise i'll just delete you from my mind"
After that prayer the next day JWs came knocking my door, i drove them away without even giving them any chance to say a word all my neighbours laughed at them though these people were well dressed. So i said in my heart "why do i have to treat neighbours who never offended me in such a cruel manner?"
So i thought within my heart that i will not do so next time i see them but i'll politely dismiss them. Then four days later they returned and this time i tried to send them away in a polite way but the young lady said something that touched my heart that very day so in a bid to get to the root of that discussion i began listening to them. Then i realized they're well informed so i started throwing all those questions at them and to my surprise they were answering all my questions from the Bible in my own hand (because a neighbour once told me their Bible differs so i always read from my own copy of the Bible)
All those days no other religion came to my door then i asked them what gave them the impetus to enter people's private home when others preachers stay outside shouting?
You know JWs nah all answers comes from the Bible. Ever since then i've been noticing that all other churches don't have that same SPIRIT to go visiting people in their homes!
Of course i tried to engage many other religionsts like CAC, Apostolic Faith, Deeperlife and any other religionst i come across to distinguish between them and the Witnesses and i realized they're all the same just like Islam, they only listen to their religious leaders they can't substantiate what they believe with efficacy unlike JWs that will continue to amaze you even a child of about 7 years old amongst JWs will quote the Bible as if it's programmed in their brains!
Till today no other religion meet up with the requirements, and when i joined the force it was as if God said "come and see their delusion" when i saw religionsts of the same faith fighting and killing one another then i remember the JWs who said they must not settle differences with weapons!
Please have you found a better performing group than this one?
They've instilled LOVE, JOY and PEACE in the hearts of millions globally as if they've got some spell they're using to uproot hatred caused by Racism and Politics from the minds of their adherents!
So if you don't believe that God is with them well i do!

rottennaija:
So which other church did you join and for how long?

needanswer:
Yes it does. I have taken out time to highlight the key points in the 5 bullet questions you asked me for your ease. If you still dont understand my answer, point out the exact one.

I see certain errors in your understanding of events. I am the one will be satisfied by your response, not the other way around and the satisfaction comes when I have questions bugging me answered. Example, you teach a 5 year old about plant and after your highlighting what you believe are important points, you claim satisfaction and when questions are asked to clarify certain points, you refer him or her to points you had raised before.

Now, there is a difference between being satisfied and believing or accepting your answers. I can be satisfied with your response having had my questions answered but I may not believe them. Keep those important differences in mind.

In your own case, I was never satisfied with your response (as you were evasive and bring up issues that contributed nothing to the discussion) and neither were your response enough to let me believe them.

I had some follow up questions but wouldn't be asking them. It is of no use. So, I'll say, enjoy the rest of your day. It was nice having to respond to your questions.

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly my point!

The day i got fed up with all religions and began contemplating Atheism some 28 years ago, i knelt down with the intention that that'll be the last day i will pray to some invisible person that i can never see face to face.
My prayer:
"God! God!! God!!! Do you truly exist? I'm asking you this question because i'm fed up with all these confusion and i'm about to debunk your existence. So if truly you exist i want you to prove yourself to me anyhow you choose to otherwise i'll just delete you from my mind"
After that prayer the next day JWs came knocking my door, i drove them away without even giving them any chance to say a word all my neighbours laughed at them though these people were well dressed. So i said in my heart "why do i have to treat neighbours who never offended me in such a cruel manner?"
So i thought within my heart that i will not do so next time i see them but i'll politely dismiss them. Then four days later they returned and this time i tried to send them away in a polite way but the young lady said something that touched my heart that very day so in a bid to get to the root of that discussion i began listening to them. Then i realized they're well informed so i started throwing all those questions at them and to my surprise they were answering all my questions from the Bible in my own hand (because a neighbour once told me their Bible differs so i always read from my own copy of the Bible)
All those days no other religion came to my door then i asked them what gave them the impetus to enter people's private home when others preachers stay outside shouting?
You know JWs nah all answers comes from the Bible. Ever since then i've been noticing that all other churches don't have that same SPIRIT to go visiting people in their homes!
Of course i tried to engage many other religionsts like CAC, Apostolic Faith, Deeperlife and any other religionst i come across to distinguish between them and the Witnesses and i realized they're all the same just like Islam, they only listen to their religious leaders they can't substantiate what they believe with efficacy unlike JWs that will continue to amaze you even a child of about 7 years old amongst JWs will quote the Bible as if it's programmed in their brains!
Till today no other religion meet up with the requirements, and when i joined the force it was as if God said "come and see their delusion" when i saw religionsts of the same faith fighting and killing one another then i remember the JWs who said they must not settle differences with weapons!
Please have you found a better performing group than this one?
They've instilled LOVE, JOY and PEACE in the hearts of millions globally as if they've got some spell they're using to uproot hatred caused by Racism and Politics from the minds of their adherents!
So if you don't believe that God is with them well i do!

So you never actually tried any other religion let alone joined them but you claimed you couldn't see a better performing group. If you never joined them, what were the criteria for performance you measured?

rottennaija:
I see certain errors in your understanding of events. I am the one will be satisfied by your response, not the other way around and the satisfaction comes when I have questions bugging me answered. Example, you teach a 5 year old about plant and after your highlighting what you believe are important points, you claim satisfaction and when questions are asked to clarify certain points, you refer him or her to points you had raised before.

Now, there is a difference between being satisfied and believing or accepting your answers. I can be satisfied with your response having had my questions answered but I may not believe them. Keep those important differences in mind.

In your own case, I was never satisfied with your response (as you were evasive and bring up issues that contributed nothing to the discussion) and neither were your response enough to let me believe them.

I had some follow up questions but wouldn't be asking them. It is of no use. So, I'll say, enjoy the rest of your day. It was nice having to respond to your questions.

I didnt mean to offend you. If you are still interested in asking your question, ask but if not its okay

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly my point!

The day i got fed up with all religions and began contemplating Atheism some 28 years ago, i knelt down with the intention that that'll be the last day i will pray to some invisible person that i can never see face to face.
My prayer:
"God! God!! God!!! Do you truly exist? I'm asking you this question because i'm fed up with all these confusion and i'm about to debunk your existence. So if truly you exist i want you to prove yourself to me anyhow you choose to otherwise i'll just delete you from my mind"
After that prayer the next day JWs came knocking my door, i drove them away without even giving them any chance to say a word all my neighbours laughed at them though these people were well dressed. So i said in my heart "why do i have to treat neighbours who never offended me in such a cruel manner?"
So i thought within my heart that i will not do so next time i see them but i'll politely dismiss them. Then four days later they returned and this time i tried to send them away in a polite way but the young lady said something that touched my heart that very day so in a bid to get to the root of that discussion i began listening to them. Then i realized they're well informed so i started throwing all those questions at them and to my surprise they were answering all my questions from the Bible in my own hand (because a neighbour once told me their Bible differs so i always read from my own copy of the Bible)
All those days no other religion came to my door then i asked them what gave them the impetus to enter people's private home when others preachers stay outside shouting?
You know JWs nah all answers comes from the Bible. Ever since then i've been noticing that all other churches don't have that same SPIRIT to go visiting people in their homes!
Of course i tried to engage many other religionsts like CAC, Apostolic Faith, Deeperlife and any other religionst i come across to distinguish between them and the Witnesses and i realized they're all the same just like Islam, they only listen to their religious leaders they can't substantiate what they believe with efficacy unlike JWs that will continue to amaze you even a child of about 7 years old amongst JWs will quote the Bible as if it's programmed in their brains!
Till today no other religion meet up with the requirements, and when i joined the force it was as if God said "come and see their delusion" when i saw religionsts of the same faith fighting and killing one another then i remember the JWs who said they must not settle differences with weapons!
Please have you found a better performing group than this one?
They've instilled LOVE, JOY and PEACE in the hearts of millions globally as if they've got some spell they're using to uproot hatred caused by Racism and Politics from the minds of their adherents!
So if you don't believe that God is with them well i do!

Which year did you join the army?

needanswer:
I didnt mean to offend you. If you are still interested in asking your question, ask but if not its okay

I am not offended. I just don't like dishonest people.

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!
There are two categories of people that often leave the Organization:
Those born by JWs but chose to follow their own hearts.
And
Those who comes in thinking since God is here He will give them everything they want.
But real JWs are people that beleive in one God one faith and one baptism {Ephesians 4:5} they will never retreat until they are sure that they've found the one and only Organization of God's people!

rottennaija:
Last last, all of these are fake and will no lead anywhere. In their over 150 years of history, who has they led to God's kingdom before? None.
At the end of the day, they will still end disillusioned. The father got out after many years wasted. His child has continued, someday, along the line, one will see what the father saw and will leave. The others will not and will continue in self deception and the worship of the organisation.

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!
There are two categories of people that often leave the Organization:
Those born by JWs but chose to follow their own hearts.
And
Those who comes in thinking since God is here He will give them everything they want.
But real JWs are people that beleive in one God one faith and one baptism {Ephesians 4:5} they will never retreat until they are sure that they've found the one and only Organization of God's people!

True Christians are not JWs. They follow the Bible no doctrine of men. If they follow men, they won't be true Christians. They retreat where they see falsehood, resign from false religion and if possible, stay away from sources of falsehood. They allegiance is to Jesus first and foremost.

During early 90s when things were getting hard and my music career wasn't yielding something worthwhile, though i was called by a friend whose father helped us to enroll for special academics for military intelligence. He's still serving now in Europe!
But if i may ask, why are you so much interested in my life history today?
At least you've known me for more than two years now!

rottennaija:
Which year did you join the army?

MaxInDHouse:
During early 90s when things were getting hard and my music career wasn't yielding something worthwhile, though i was called by a friend whose father helped us to enroll for special academics for military intelligence. He's still serving now in Europe!
But if i may ask, why are you so much interested in my life history today?
At least you've known me for more than two years now!

Your career path is really impressive. From music to military. How long did serve in the military?

So can you please PRESENT a gathering of such ones? Matthew 5:14-16
Please i'll like to know how well they're able to put Jesus' counsels to practice and the end result of their practical applications! Matthew 7:16-18
If Jesus is real then his true followers must be united in FAITH {John 17:20-23} and people must notice their excellent performance throughout the earth! Act 1:8

rottennaija:
True Christians are not JWs. They follow the Bible no doctrine of men. If they follow men, they won't be true Christians. They retreat where they see falsehood, resign from false religion and if possible, stay away from sources of falsehood. They allegiance is to Jesus first and foremost.

rottennaija:
Your career path is really impressive. From music to military. How long did serve in the military?

So why asking all these now?
After all we've been here on this same forum for more than two years!

MaxInDHouse:
So why asking all these now?
After all we've been here on this same forum for more than two years!

Curiosity. Now I know you tried your hands on music before you join the army. Its an interesting story.

rottennaija:
I am not offended. I just don't like dishonest people.

Now I think we should actually end our conversation, have a nice day.

I lead the band for months before traveling outside the country for further study in Europe.
Most of the professors don't speak English that's where i learnt that the white men are jealous of themselves each wants to prove his own language is superior so if you want to learn some special skills in our field you must first learn the language of the professor hired to lecture you otherwise if you're relying on English then you're on your own!
Well it's good to make friends, let's put away our religiosity for now my friend life is good!

rottennaija:
Curiosity. Now I know you tried your hands on music before you join the army. Its an interesting story.

MaxInDHouse:
I lead the band for months before traveling outside the country for further study in Europe.
Most of the professors don't speak English that's where i learnt that the white men are jealous of themselves each wants to prove his own language is superior so if you want to learn some special skills in our field you must first learn the language of the professor hired to lecture you otherwise if you're relying on English then you're on your own!
Well it's good to make friends, let's put away our religiosity for now my friend life is good!

So how long did you stay in the force before retirement or resignation?

Why did you insult the other guy nah?

rottennaija:
So how long did you stay in the force before retirement or resignation?

MaxInDHouse:
Why did you insult the other guy nah?

I don't think you know what insult is