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I'm still baffled with the reason why christians, teachers and pastors are always omitting this crucial part/quote of the bible.

I've listened to many popular pastors and teachers teaching on grace and gospel but they don't quote this scripture passages in their ministrations.

Most of them will hastely and always say we're saved by grace through faith and not by any work but they're ignorantly/blindly/cunningly skipping the consolidating scripture passages that give a defining tune to what grace actually is.

The passage is Titus 2 : 11 - 15 which says:

11. For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
12. teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
13. looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
14. who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.
15. Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.

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Verses 12 and 13 gave clear definition of the meaning of grace, which is totally different from the charade most people are dishing out from the pulpit nowadays.

It talks about DENYING UNGODLINESS, which means we just desit from every appearance of evil and wickenedss.

WORLDLY LUST is also mentioned , and it means a truly born again christian cannot lust after mundane things like covering another man's wife or woman's husband, concentrating his/her efforts on acquiring perishable fame, striving to be like the global stars/celebrities, etc

We should LIVE SOBERLY: this means grace of God transforms us to be broken hearted, have a living conscience (for forgiving, making restitution, being at peace with others). Psalm 51 says the sacrifices of the lord is a broken heart, and a contrite spirit the Lord will not despise.

RUGHTEOUSLY is also written as one of the multiply effects of God's saving grace. The issue and possibility of righteousness is one of the most controversial topics among christai denomination. While some will quickly crucify you for preaching the possibility/livability of rughteosness, others will crucify/stone you for dare saying that.

I've noticed that the account of Isaiah 64 : 6 is the foundation for those who preach/teach against the possiblity of righteousness. It must therefore be noted that this particular verse and chapter in Isaiah was not independent on it own.

The first part of that chapter was dedicated for interceding for the forgiveness of sins committed by the people of Israel and that's why the proplet said 'all our righteousness is like filthy rag'

The reason he wrote that 'filthy rag' was because the people would boast of the efficacy of 'sacrificial laws (sin offering, grain offering, trespass offering), that covers/intercede for their transgressions. And we must note that those sacrifices do not totally take away their sin(s) but only cover it

The covering of their sins by those sacrifices was what made the Prophet to include it on his intercession that, though, the people boost of performing sacrifices for atonement of sin(s), the sacrifices only covers and CANNOT take away any sin. This simply reason is what Solomon wrote that 'anyone who covers his sin shall not prosper but he who confess and forake'

As bible students, christians must know that the writing/conversation/intercession in Isaiah 64 started from the previous chapter (Isaiah 63 : 15 to be specific). So the first part of 64 was a continuation of what's started from 63.

Also, the major Prophets in the OT often dedicate their time to intercede for national sin of Israel, this is why Lamentarion chapter 5 and Daniel chapter 9 : 1- 21 were written by Jeremiah and Daniel respectively.

There's no single part of the scripture that dispute the possibility of righteous. Read:

1Cor. 15 : 34,
Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.

and

1John 3 : 7 - 9
7. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Also

1John 2 : 28 - 29
28. And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
29. If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.


It is time bible students and christians to be questioning why Pastors, Preachers, Apostles and Teachers are erasing this eternal gospel truth from their messages

Praxis758:
The Passage Is Tithe 2 : 11 - 15

Is There Any Book Of Tithe In The Bible?


Which Type Of Bible Are You Using?

Praxis758:
I'm still baffled with the reason why christians, teachers and pastors are always omitting this crucial part/quote of the bible.

I've listened to many popular pastors and teachers teaching on grace and gospel but they don't quote this scripture passages in their ministrations.

Most of the will hastely and always say we're saved by grace through faith and not by any work but they're ignorantly/blindly/cunningly skip the consolidating scripture passages that give a defining tune to what grace actually is.

The passage is Tithe 2 : 11 - 15 which says:

11. For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
12. teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
13. looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
14. who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.
15. Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.

[color=#990000][/color]

Verses 12 and 13 gave clear definition of the meaning of grace, which is totally different from the charade most people are dishing out from the pulpit nowadays.

It talks about DENYING UNGODLINESS, which means we just desit from every appearance of evil and wickenedss.

WORLDLY LUST is also mentioned , and it means a truly born again christian cannot lust after mundane things like covering another man's wife or woman's husband, concentrating his/her efforts on acquiring perishable fame, striving to be like the global stars/celebrities, etc

We should LIVE SOBERLY: this means grace of God transforms us to be broken hearted, have a living conscience (for forgiving, making restitution, being at peace with others). Psalm 51 says the sacrifices of the lord is a broken heart, and a contrite spirit the Lord will not despise.

RUGHTEOUSLY is also written as one of the multiply effects of God's saving grace. The issue and possibility of righteousness is one of the most controversial topics among christai denomination. While some will quickly crucify you for preaching the possibility/livability of rughteosness, others will crucify/stone you for dare saying that.

That passage is instead clear that the grace of God is instead for our Salvation, and not for all you have included in your write up there.

According to the Gospels, the Salvation we have in Jesus Christ is from the condemnation of sin(Death)-we are saved from the judgement of God against sin - in place of which we are gifted with eternal life, the grace of God. In John 3 vs 16- 21, it is made clear that eternal life is the result of salvation and that eternal life is the grace obtained in place of the previous sentence of Death.

And we also know, from John 1, that Jesus Christ came filled with this eternal life(grace) and Truth.

WorstWanderland:
Is There Any Book Of Tithe In The Bible?


Which Type Of Bible Are You Using?

Thanks for the observation.

I've corrected it.

Praxis758:
I've noticed that the account of Isaiah 64 : 6 is the foundation for those who preach/teach against the possiblity of righteousness. It must therefore be noted that this particular verse and chapter in Isaiah was not independent on it own.

The first part of that chapter was dedicated for interceding for the forgiveness of sins committed by the people of Israel and that's why the proplet said 'all our righteousness is like filthy rag'

The reason he wrote that 'filthy rag' was because the people would boast of the efficacy of 'sacrificial laws (sin offering, grain offering, trespass offering), that covers/intercede for their transgressions. And we must note that those sacrifices do not totally take away their sin(s) but only cover it

The covering of their sins by those sacrifices was what made the Prophet to include it on his intercession that, though, the people boost of performing sacrifices for atonement of sin(s), the sacrifices only covers and CANNOT take away any sin. This simply reason is what Solomon wrote that 'anyone who covers his sin shall not prosper but he who confess and forake'

I am afraid that your assessment of Isaiah 64 vs 6 is equally error-filled.

First thing first.... holiness is the quality of being without sin or in compliance with the Law of God, while God's Righteousness has instead to do with the carrying out of the Will of God. Only those who are previously holy can seek God's righteousness, hence the reason why Jesus Christ declared that those who will be His followers should seek/find first the Kingdom of God, and afterward seek/find God's Righteousness...

There are works that are known as works of Righteousness- see Ezekiel 18, Ezekiel 33, Isaiah 58, and Job 31 for details. These are "works" associated with those who are "God Righteous". Anyone can of course think to do these works but only those who are God Righteous can do it exactly as God requires it done...according to God's Will.

Isaiah 64 vs 4-9 (ERV)
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3. But you have done awesome things that we did not expect. You came down, and mountains shook in fear before you.
4. No one has ever heard of such a God. No one has ever heard such a story. No one has ever seen any God except you, who does such great things for those who trust him.
5. You welcome people who enjoy doing good and who remember you by living the way you want them to. But we sinned against you, and you became angry with us.[a] But you always saved us![/b]
6. We are all dirty with sin. Even our good works(righteousness) are not pure. They are like bloodstained rags. We are all like dead leaves. Our sins have carried us away like wind.
7. We don’t call to you for help. We aren’t excited about following you, so you have turned away from us. We are helpless before you, because we are full of sin.
8. But, Lord, you are our father. We are like clay, and you are the potter. Your hands made us all.
9. Lord, don’t continue to be angry with us! Don’t remember our sins forever! Please, look at us! We are all your people.

In Isaiah 64 vs 6, Isaiah makes it clear that the sins of the people make them filthy/dirty and follows that by declaring then their righteousness, which cannot be of God then, also filthy. Isaiah, in the same context, pleads that God have mercy and forgive the sins of the people, not their attempts at righteousness because it is only through sinlessness(Holy) can their righteousness be made pure in the sight of God.

@Op thanks for posting this Biblical chapter.