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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 4:55pm On May 08, 2021
Rvp will not like this. leaking deep seaport is 50% complete with targeted operation date to be Q4 of 2022. grin


https://m.guardian.ng/business-services/business/1-6-billion-lekki-deep-sea-port-reaches-50-completion/amp/

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:06pm On May 08, 2021
Why would I fight facts like an idiot. I have never said kenya is RSA level. But I have said ceteris paribus - Nairobi will catch up with joburg in 10yrs. Kenya as whole - 15yrs min.
Vlain:
Rvp will not like this grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:09pm On May 08, 2021
Lamu Deep Seaport is long complete and going for operation. At completion it will be larger than Lekki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TLN5JxHX0o
Vlain:
Rvp will not like this. leaking deep seaport is 50% complete with targeted operation date to be Q4 of 2022. grin


https://m.guardian.ng/business-services/business/1-6-billion-lekki-deep-sea-port-reaches-50-completion/amp/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 5:10pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Why would I fight facts like an idiot. I have never said kenya is RSA level. But I have said ceteris paribus - Nairobi will catch up with joburg in 10yrs. Kenya as whole - 15yrs min.
Stfu u once argued with me that upper hill is not any different from sandton ,that all upper hill needs is more building . I remember telling u upper hill has more scrapes than sandton,waterfall,menlyn but not half as developed as the place but u still disagreed and equated both together. Good to see a Kenyan is saying otherwise.

Heck you also said Nairobi is not competing with cape town that u have surpassed that and ur focus is joburg
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 5:11pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Lamu Deep Seaport is long complete and going for operation. At completion it will be larger than Lekki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TLN5JxHX0o
In the next 30-50 years meanwhile Kelli deepseaport would have expanded within that period.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:20pm On May 08, 2021
What exactly do you call development? Streets? Or high end stores on the streets. Upperhill lacks behind in those; those are lipstick that are easy to apply. The scrapes are harder.

Sandton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4uvAZPuzuI

Upperhill - with 88, Montave, Pinacle and many upcoming towrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sc8w3V55Uw

Vlain:
Stfu u once argued with me that upper hill is not any different from sandton ,that all upper hill needs is more building . I remember telling u upper hill has more scrapes than sandton,waterfall,menlyn but not half as developed as the place but u still disagreed and equated both together. Good to see a Kenyan is saying otherwise.

Heck you also said Nairobi is not competing with cape town that u have surpassed that and ur focus is joburg
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:23pm On May 08, 2021
You mean Lekki will be ready in 30yrs - yes that about expected.
Lamu 3 berths are already.
Ships will start next week docking.
It can handle almost any ship in the world.
Having a depth of 17m with berth of 400m - that is as good as any worldwide
Lekki will be 14m smiley and will be ready in 30yrs time
Vlain:
In the next 30-50 years meanwhile Kelli deepseaport would have expanded within that period.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 5:28pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
What exactly do you call development? Streets? Or high end stores on the streets. Upperhill lacks behind in those; those are lipstick that are easy to apply. The scrapes are harder.

Sandton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4uvAZPuzuI
Idiot in everything Kenya lacks behind sandton.
The rest is just stupid pride and ego cos we are both aware that upper hill has nothing on hillbrow or Soweto. This is just pure facts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXnNz8xi-oo

Sandton is some next level shiit.funny how u vividly ignore the Cape Town part grin grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcnHlusOt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=966x7lXuuAY
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:30pm On May 08, 2021
Upper hill vis Sandton - and number of planned activities in Upper hill beat Sandton 10 nill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwBpW8hlCE

Upperhill via duct under construction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEiHB7sIKLs
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:33pm On May 08, 2021
What is everything smiley Upperhill just needs more density; and it's getting it; when likes of 88 condominium, Pinacle, Montave and rest come off ground - the rounds and streets will get fixed.

Obviously the big difference - upper hill is mostly business offices - Sandton is mostly shopping (more like Two Rivers)

Remember Upperhill has totally changed from low residence to skyscrapers in 15yrs

Last 5yrs - 30 projects registered!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLjAot3JhFw

Vlain:
Idiot in everything Kenya lacks behind sandton.
The rest is just stupid pride and ego cos we are both aware that upper hill has nothing on hillbrow or Soweto. This is just pure facts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXnNz8xi-oo

Sandton is some next level shiit.funny how u vividly ignore the Cape Town part grin grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcnHlusOt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=966x7lXuuAY
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 5:35pm On May 08, 2021
Just30:
So you still want to compare the small Nairobi to a historic city like Accra that best it in all things?


This is a Ghanaian taking part in a protest to put pressure on Government just like how we put pressure on all govt to make sure we get the best out of them.

This is how come we have become so developed.
By holding our leaders to account.

This guy was not even comparing anything in kenya to Ghana because there is very little to compare.

He was comparing his years of travel around the developed world to Ghana.
Ohhh, you shouldn't have replied koraa.
Let's allow them to wallow in their ignorance.

So does it mean they don't know about the social media protest happening in Ghana?

Something all the big Media houses around the World are reporting on?

What did the guy talked about?
Dustbin
Roads
Pavement etc. Does it mean we don't have these things in Ghana?

Whilst we are putting pressure on our Government to do more, here they are jubilating because this video was done in Kenya? Such low life's. grin cheesy grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:39pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Upper hill vis Sandton - and number of planned activities in Upper hill beat Sandton 10 nill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwBpW8hlCE

Upperhill via duct under construction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEiHB7sIKLs
same drone shots embarassed embarassed embarassed, can we see drive through of this tiny enclave called "Upperhill" , Vlain just showed you drive through ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:39pm On May 08, 2021
How big is Sandton. Same but better than anything in Nigeria - and it just got started - it extending all the way to Kilimani.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUwBpW8hlCE
68816419:
same drone shots embarassed embarassed embarassed, can we see drive through of this tiny enclave called "Upperhill" , Vlain just showed you drive through ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:41pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
How big is Sandton.
Bigger than Upper-hill
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:42pm On May 08, 2021
Give us 5 years smiley top 10yrs; and South African will be coming to Nairobi like Nigeriians are - to catch glimpse of tallest buildings - world class roads - rails - name it. Upperhill has changed from a low residential area to the city you see now in 15yrs.

While you're sleeping - kenya is huge construction site - as we speak there contractors all over Nairobi building stuff 24hrs a day.

The land here will set you at 5-10M dollars an acre....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aldyTlrmd_Q&t=46s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv7gbJ1kM-0

68816419:
Bigger than Upper-hill
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:47pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Give us 5 years smiley top 10yrs; and South African will be coming to Nairobi like Nigeriians are - to catch glimpse of tallest buildings - world class roads - rails - name it.

While you're sleeping - kenya is huge construction site - as we speak there contractors all over Nairobi building stuff 24hrs a day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv7gbJ1kM-0
Only if other cities(Lagos,Accra,Jburg,Cairo,Dar)... falls asleep , Nigga, u need to wake up, Nigeria are building new world class cities, while u guys keeps developing a very tiny areas of your capital.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:51pm On May 08, 2021
Nigga - this thread started in 2016. SHOW ME ONE SINGLE COMPLETED PROJECT IN NIGERIA THOSE 5YRS. NOT ONE. Meanwhile we complete projects almost every month.

Nigeria - please - you're doing as badly with south africa - with economic recession lasting a decade smiley

There is already a 10yr glut in office and hotel effective demand - DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING to be built in your country. Heck even rental apartments - you're TOO POOR to afford - so there is basically HUGE OVERSUPPLY already smiley smiley smiley Talk of peaking early!

Try watch Kenya zoom past you. HECK EVEN SAMMY GAVE UP ON RENDERS - we warned him smiley smiley

68816419:
Only if other cities(Lagos,Accra,Jburg,Cairo,Dar)... falls asleep , Nigga, u need to wake up, Nigeria are building new world class cities, while u guys keeps developing a very tiny areas of your capital.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:02pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
Give us 5 years smiley top 10yrs; and South African will be coming to Nairobi like Nigeriians are - to catch glimpse of tallest buildings - world class roads - rails - name it. Upperhill has changed from a low residential area to the city you see now in 15yrs.

While you're sleeping - kenya is huge construction site - as we speak there contractors all over Nairobi building stuff 24hrs a day.

The land here will set you at 5-10M dollars an acre....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aldyTlrmd_Q&t=46s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv7gbJ1kM-0
Nigga, u can never get to this level , trust me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGp8se48mw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vpULqZoaJM
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:04pm On May 08, 2021
DarSaleem already overtook Lagos in terms of Skyscrappers or even 20 floor building.
Nairobi has about twice Lagos.
Please Nigga - you can only impress GHANA;
Watch out for Adis Ababa and Maputo.
Already Angola's Luanda is age away

Look at ADIS ABABA - this country growing - not cooking figures Ghana or Nigeria style. Another decade Lagos will not even make top 10 in Africa most developed cities..it will be competing for Ghana for earthquake fault lines smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeGR6nkGQM

68816419:
Nigga, u can never get to this level , trust me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGp8se48mw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vpULqZoaJM
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:07pm On May 08, 2021
What did I miss?

Where should I start shocked shocked
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:07pm On May 08, 2021
vankelvin:
Ohhh, you shouldn't have replied koraa.
Let's allow them to wallow in their ignorance.

So does it mean they don't know about the social media protest happening in Ghana?

Something all the big Media houses around the World are reporting on?

What did the guy talked about?
Dustbin
Roads
Pavement etc. Does it mean we don't have these things in Ghana?

Whilst we are putting pressure on our Government to do more, here they are jubilating because this video was done in Kenya? Such low life's. grin cheesy grin
grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:10pm On May 08, 2021
rvp20182:
DarSaleem already overtook Lagos in terms of Skyscrappers or even 20 floor building.
Nairobi has about twice Lagos.
Please Nigga - you can only impress GHANA;
Watch out for Adis Ababa and Maputo.
Already Angola's Luanda is age away

Look at ADIS ABABA - this country growing - not cooking figures Ghana or Nigeria style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeGR6nkGQM
You are already convinced

That is why you so badly want to lift your country up by comparing it shoulder to shoulder with countries doing better than it in all things.


While Addis Ababa is growing, it is no where near the countries you want to compare it to.
It is on the same backward level with kenya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:13pm On May 08, 2021
Economic growth should MANIFEST itself in development that naked eye can see. Anything else is cooking Nigeria style. If you go to Asia growing countries - you can use common sense to know it's growing.

If you cannot use common sense - to see economic growth of Ghana - there is a problem.

Ghana has failed SPECTACULARLY the picture and common sense test.

For Nigeria - we know they have been in Oil induced recession since 2014!

What is obvious the average Ghanian is like you Just30 - a pathological liar - and that is why every year you claim to have Ethiopia like growth - but nobody see it.

Ethiopia has turned from 2nd world poorest country with bottom every index to what it is now.

Do you see Adis Ababa - and you see tall buildings - cranes - and new stuff. THAT IS REAL ECONOMIC GROWTH reflecting in all the echelons of the society. Big ships like banks - are growing so much - they have money to put 50 floors buildings - but Ghana - nobody seem to thrive - Not big companies - not SMES - except in their national account books - and the Chinese gold gangs of course;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh05N48FMPc

Just30:
You are already convinced

That is why you so badly want to lift your country up by comparing it shoulder to shoulder with countries doing better than it in all things.


While Addis Ababa is growing, it is no where near the countries you want to compare it to
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:20pm On May 08, 2021
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rvp20182:
Economic growth should MANIFEST itself in development that naked eye can see. Anything else is cooking Nigeria style. If you go to Asia growing countries - you can use common sense to know it's growing.

If you cannot use common sense - to see economic growth of Ghana - there is a problem.

Ghana has failed SPECTACULARLY the picture and common sense test.

For Nigeria - we know they have been in Oil induced recession since 2014!

What is obvious the average Ghanian is like you Just30 - a pathological liar - and that is why every year you claim to have Ethiopia like growth - but nobody see it.

Ethiopia has turned from 2nd world poorest country with bottom every indices to what it is now.

Do you see Adis Ababa - and you see tall buildings - cranes - and new stuff


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh05N48FMPc
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The fact that Kenya has failed massively does not mean everyone has.

Growth drives huge cement consumption ( meaning there is a housing boom)
Huge electricity consumption (meaning there is more growth in disposable incomes and industrial growth)

Huge water consumption ( means healthy living for citizens and indicates industrial growth as well)

All of these have remained stagnant in Kenya, at least Ethiopia is growing and you can see it in their demand for these things.
Kenya has been cooking data for decades now yet 35 million kenyans are slum dwellers and 42 million are poor.

Growth raise people out of poverty


Shhh and argue with facts cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:26pm On May 08, 2021
All that is data. Cement when poured creates structures that WE CAN SEE WITH the NAKED EYE. Cement companies themselves become so rich they build big offices and even expand - their owners become DANGOTESsmiley .

Ghana banks would grow enough to even expand to Togo and build huge office blocks.

When it comes to electricity - manufactured goods from Ghana - should show up somewhere. It should not be Nigeria - we have 100B dollars agriculture - and yet we world biggest food importer.

We can go on and on - the balance sheets of your utilities - like Ghana Water, ECH, and name - should show that consumption! It doesn't! ghana water - nationally - has 0.5m customers! just imagine that!!!!!!!!. The electricity company is normally in IMF ICU ward.

Therefore we can conclude there are data integrity issues or just lack of seriousness West Africa style.

This Nigeria claiming to be self-sufficient in rice production - while 10M BENIN is importing tonnes and tonnes of rice from Thailand, Veitnam and India...all destined for Nigeria.

Just30:
[s][/s]

The fact that Kenya has failed massively does not mean everyone has.

Growth drives huge cement consumption ( meaning there is a housing boom)
Huge electricity consumption (meaning there is more growth in disposable incomes and industrial growth)

Huge water consumption ( means healthy living for citizens and indicates industrial growth as well)

All of these have remained stagnant in Kenya, at least Ethiopia is growing and you can see it in their demand for these things.
Kenya has been cooking data for decades now yet 35 million kenyans are slum dwellers and 42 million are poor.

Growth raise people out of poverty


Shhh and argue with facts cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:27pm On May 08, 2021
Vankelvin... Why were you bleeding pain and anger while I was away grin? Quote me now so that I can demolish your head rynna cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:45pm On May 08, 2021
Let look at Ghana's overcooked economy - 70B dollar informal economy smiley . Banks. Their biggest bank would 11th in Kenya - just above PRIME BANK. smiley smiley. They have 28 banks against kenya 45 banks.

2019 data - by now I am sure many Kenyan banks have overtaken many others - Equity Bank now is 10B dollars behemooth.

https://africanbusinessmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/TOP-BANKS-AB1019_lr.pdf

Ghana biggest bank - Ghana Commercial bank - assets - not even 1B dollars. THIS IS LIKE A SACCO smiley - Mwalimu Sacco is about 500M dollars now in asset and even own a bank smiley

In Africa Other new entrants were Kenya’s Prime Bank (entering at #92 with capital of $212m), Société Générale Côte d’Ivoire entering at #93 with capital of $209m, Ecobank Ghana (#97 with capital of $202m) and Barclays Bank of Ghana (#99 capital of $194m).

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 6:47pm On May 08, 2021
Vlain:
U are either a terrible liar or u lack good memory. U legit claimed here that broad street is the best street in Lagos and I refuted that claim then u went ahead to ask me to provide the nam of our best street since I am refusing ur claims else ur claims will stand. I replied telling u I can’t point one single street and call it the best in Lagos cos the are better streets than any I would mention somewhere,somehow.
U later gave me ur owned presumed list on best street across global recognized cities and I replied telling u that whatever u see in those streets can equally be seen anywhere else in other part of the city. Then u came up with ur whole beat around the bush charade which to me is the last kick of a dying horse.
Where did he say that it's the best?

AfroCircus:
Preferably the whole city. But since we are talking of Lagos island, then Nairobi CBD it is.

Broad street is among the best streets in Lagos, right?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:54pm On May 08, 2021
AfroCircus:
You and that Vlain guy like misquoting people and sticking to it.

1- I said among the very best. You're saying it's the best, very different in meaning. Mine means it's among the top end of the spectrum. Yours means it's official, it is unchallenged as the best street in London. Very different.

2- Since when did the best mean that everything else is bad? Then what would a statement like "oxford is the only good street in London" mean?
Lemme analyze for you these characters.

Justozombie(Just30) - he's a lying machine and a big baby.. He'll start crying the moment you bombard him with facts.

Vlain aka samorobo - this one is stupid from the word go. I doubt if he has ever stepped foot in campus. Avoid him.

Vankelvin - this one is a kid trying to fit into this game. He's also a hobbit. He will ooze out emotional tears any moment facts overweigh him. Take it slow on him. grin

68816419 - this one is a painful soul. He was deported from kenya and the pain is still singing hallelujah grin Avoid him.

Petrozombie - this one is a grandmaster of stupidity. Anytime you want to play with your little stupidity gimmicks , engage this grand moffo. grin

The rest make sense.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:54pm On May 08, 2021
Vlain:
Yes.
Shifting goalpost is so gallivant(I see why he even bear the name gallivant; tchats naso what happy his brain)

Name calling : gallivant,shma2020(always pouring out emotions in face of facts)

Blatantly manufacturing figures and stats: This is were rvp cones in. He will pull out false stats from his ass just to keep his zoo on a pedestal. It’s my duty to bust those bubble and slap him back into reality. grin

Cheerleading: gallivant,shma. Zero people of substance. Just cheerlead whenever they get the slightest information not minding if it is true or false.

Ass kissing: kikuyu and shma. Most kikuyu here.
Anyone who wants can help me find a single solitary FECK!

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 6:55pm On May 08, 2021
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rvp20182:
All that is data. Cement when poured creates structures that WE CAN SEE WITH the NAKED EYE. Cement companies themselves become so rich they build big offices and even expand - their owners become DANGOTESsmiley .

Ghana banks would grow enough to even expand to Togo and build huge office blocks.

When it comes to electricity - manufactured goods from Ghana - should show up somewhere. It should not be Nigeria - we have 100B dollars agriculture - and yet we world biggest food importer.

We can go on and on - the balance sheets of your utilities - like Ghana Water, ECH, and name - should show that consumption! It doesn't! ghana water - nationally - has 0.5m customers! just imagine that!!!!!!!!. The electricity company is normally in IMF ICU ward.

Therefore we can conclude there are data integrity issues or just lack of seriousness West Africa style.

This Nigeria claiming to be self-sufficient in rice production - while 10M BENIN is importing tonnes and tonnes of rice from Thailand, Veitnam and India...all destined for Nigeria.
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all I see is rants for why kenya is still undeveloped

I'm not interested in those

Argue with facts grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:58pm On May 08, 2021
Of course, no coherent rebuttal, I guess lying has its limit, even by your standards.
Just30:
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all I see is rants for why kenya is still undeveloped

I'm not interested in those

Argue with facts grin grin grin

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