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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 1:28pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
grin

You want to beat an elite team but you are not an elite team yourself!

Except you now want to tell me for the sake of this argument; that Pique, Busquets, Griezman, Lenglet, Panic, Braithwaite and co that we've been bashing all season long and asking them to leave have suddenly turned elite footballers againhuh
Even a lot of us did not consider Messi an elite footballer 5 matches into this season, have you forgotten so soon? grin

For our failures i might ascribe 40 percent maximum to Koeman and the remaining 60 percent must go to the players who have let us down severally with missed sitters, defensive blunders and poor performance levels.

Blaming Koeman is akin to taking the easy way out.

For the records Barca is so big a club to deserve the best of coaches with proven track records but our failures go way way way beyond Koeman.
No matter what, Barcelona is still elite.



We might have lost that touch but gosh, the fear of a certain player ( whom I know is the reason we are still regarded as worthy competitors), is the beginning of any coach's tactical planning.


Nonetheless, I get your point.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 1:31pm On May 12, 2021
Article from Marca by one Luis Rojo.

To a large extend I agree with his submission;


The pros and cons of Ronald Koeman's first season at Barcelona

The Dutchman's position is now under threat
Ronald Koeman, en un partido con el Barcelona.
Ronald Koeman, en un partido con el Barcelona.EFE
LUIS F. ROJO
ADAPTED BY MARCO HOLLOWAY-LEVANTAKIS
12/05/2021 - 11:32
En Español
Levante 3-3 Barcelona. Barcelona throw LaLiga Santander away in 45 minutes
Levante 3-3 Barcelona. Koeman: I know my Barcelona future is in doubt

Barcelona appeared to surrender the LaLiga Santander title to either Atletico Madrid or Real Madrid on Tuesday night after drawing 3-3 against Levante at the Estadi Ciutat de Valencia.

The Catalan giants took the lead twice only to be pegged back by Paco Lopez's men, who secured their LaLiga Santander status with the point.

All eyes are now turning towards Ronald Koeman and whether or not the Dutchman will continue as Barcelona's coach next season, with club president Joan Laporta yet to confirm anything thus far.

It's clear that the 58-year-old has struggled during his spell at Barcelona and many of the negatives were seen in Tuesday night's game, with defensive mistakes a constant problem.

Putting Sergi Roberto at the centre of defence was a risk that Koeman took and ultimately paid the consequences for, as it cost Barcelona a goal.

There is also a distinct lack of team spirit within the Barcelona ranks, a spirit and mental strength that is required to see the team home in games like on Tuesday night.

After more than nine months at the helm, there is no doubt that in some respects Koeman has been industrious in his approach.

A team on its knees


He took charge of a team that was broken mentally after being defeated 8-2 at the hands of Bayern Munich in the Champions League, with captain and star player Lionel Messi submitting a transfer request not long after the Dutchman became coach.


Koeman was also in charge of getting rid of Luis Suarez, while he was promised reinforcements that never came. Instead, there was only the 60 million euro signing of Miralem Pjanic, who arrived as part of a deal that saw Arthur Melo go to Juventus as Barcelona fixed their short-term accounts, while Sergino Dest was signed from Ajax to replace Nelson Semedo.

Koeman had to make do with the youth setup to bolster his squad, as he called up the likes of Pedri, Oscar Mingueza, Ronald Araujo and Ilaix Moriba.


From 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-2

Koeman had to enforce a new formation at Barcelona in the second half of the season, as his preferred 4-2-3-1 formation wasn't working.

There's no doubt that Barcelona have improved under the new system, but the damage had appeared to be done after too many points were dropped in the first half of the season.

After reverting to a defensive line of three, the team found a good balance and went on to win 51 out of a possible 57 points.

Injuries have also been a huge problem at the Camp Nou this season. Ansu Fati has missed the majority of the season due to a recurring knee injury, whilst Gerard Pique, Sergi Roberto and Philippe Coutinho have all missed large chunks of the season.

Barcelona have constantly shown two faces this season, which hasn't been good enough for the Catalan giants, with their lack of mental strength coming to the fore again in Valencia on Tuesday night, which could ultimately be the demise of Koeman in the upcoming weeks.
Marca English
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 2:07pm On May 12, 2021
If La Liga had started this year Jan 1st, 2021. We would be champions by a margin.
This table will look like this;

Barcelona 51 points.
Real Madrid 42 points.
Athletico Madrid 42 points.


We lost a lot of points at the beginning of the season; a lot of young new players, a new coach, Messi issues, management issues.

This illustrates my point all this time; progress is gradual, there is no magic in it.
Time is required to blend and stabilize.

We gradually got better but it was a little too late.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by abduleez1(m): 2:30pm On May 12, 2021
homesteady:
This was the first thing I checked when I woke up this morning and I was just laughing grin grin
Ah swear Koeman na incompetent weyrey.

I laugh sef when I see Baba Comot Roberto wey just enter for Puig. grin grin

The thing off me. cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 4:54pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
If La Liga had started this year Jan 1st, 2021. We would be champions by a margin.
This table will look like this;

Barcelona 51 points.
Real Madrid 42 points.
Athletico Madrid 42 points.


We lost a lot of points at the beginning of the season; a lot of young new players, a new coach, Messi issues, management issues.

This illustrates my point all this time; progress is gradual, there is no magic in it.
Time is required to blend and stabilize.

We gradually got better but it was a little too late.
everyday i see a new sh!t that set the standard for the dumbest sh!t i've read on this thread, why would you start calculating points from 2021, you team dey sleep when madrid & atm flog you?

you for make dem no count psg first leg so your team go win on aggregate, con enter quarter-final
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 4:55pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
If La Liga had started this year Jan 1st, 2021. We would be champions by a margin.
This table will look like this;

Barcelona 51 points.
Real Madrid 42 points.
Athletico Madrid 42 points.


We lost a lot of points at the beginning of the season; a lot of young new players, a new coach, Messi issues, management issues.

This illustrates my point all this time; progress is gradual, there is no magic in it.
Time is required to blend and stabilize.

We gradually got better but it was a little too late.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m):
devvy44:
everyday i see a new sh!t that set the standard for the dumbest sh!t i've read on this thread, why would you start calculating points from 2021, you team dey sleep when madrid & atm flog you?

you for make dem no count psg first leg so your team go win on aggregate, con enter quarter-final
grin grin

This guy's intelligence is deep as the breath of a stillborn.

My emphasis was on the form of the team since the turn of the new year, not that Barca deserves to win the title.

Why do you think analysis are made for a team's last 5 matches?

Or last 10 matches? Or points since the turn of a year?

Only yesterday on goal.com a certain journalist made an analysis of what the premier league table would look like if it had begun on the day Tuchel was employed and he had Chelsea at 2nd position.
Is he insinuating that the EPL should transfer Chelsea to 2nd position?
He's only pointing out the form of Chelsea under Tuchel.

These are the most basic methods deployed in analyziing the current form of a team.

Guy pls stop jumping unto my mentions, your reasoning is just too elementary.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by NoFap123: 5:33pm On May 12, 2021
FirstbornWds:
His birthday brought good thinking tidings. He said the truth in a long time
I am glad o
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 5:51pm On May 12, 2021
FirstbornWds:
The lad is a prospect. He had a bad game yesterday but in truth, we shouldn't be relying on him to mount the LB. He still needs nurturing.
Yeah..
Hopefully Emerson comes next season and they can both learn from themselves.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 5:55pm On May 12, 2021
FirstbornWds:
Now that FDJ is set to miss the next match, let me see what this disaster man brings to the table.
I won't be surprised if he starts Sergi Roberto in midfield. It's either him or ILAIX.

He will shit in his pants if he starts Puig.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 5:55pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
grin grin

This guy's intelligence is as deep as the breath of a still born.

My emphasis was on the form of the team since the turn of the new year, not that Barca deserves to win the title.

Why do you think analysis are made for a team's last 5 matches?

Or last 10 matches? Or points since the turn of a year?

Only yesterday on goal.com today a certain journalist made an analysis of what the premier league table would look like if it had started on the day Tuchel was employed and he had Chelsea at 2nd position.

These are the most basic methods deployed in analyziing the current form of a team.

Guy pls stop jumping into my mentions, your reasoning is just too elementary.
Rubbish

b4 your start calculating based on 2021 alone, ask yourself if barce has also in the same situation with with their rivals b4 jumping into conclusion.

-did barce exit d ucl at the same stage with madrid?
- did barce face similar injury crisis as madrid?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 5:59pm On May 12, 2021
devvy44:
[s]Rubbish

b4 your start calculating based on 2021 alone, ask yourself if barce has also in the same situation with with their rivals b4 jumping into conclusion.

-did barce exit d ucl at the same stage with madrid?
- did barce face similar injury crisis as madrid?[/s]
He still doesn't understand.
Pls always come on nairaland with an interpreter.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 6:01pm On May 12, 2021
jpmoriarti:
The team is not dysfunctional. If you're not good, you're not good. Was it the team that caused him to be pulled apart by the Levante player yesterday night or cause him to lose possession every single time he attempted to dribble past any player?

At 20, he shouldn't be regarded as anyone's understudy. Trent-Arnold of Liverpool was already a world beater at that age. Dest had enough game time to show his capabilities but he always came up short.

My only consolation is that he's still young. These inconsistencies are normal for young people. Under a much better coach, I'm sure he'll show us why Barcelona and Bayern dragged for his signature.
Dest has had many good games, it's unfair to just say he is bad.
It can even be said that his form dropped when he started playing as a wingback.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 6:01pm On May 12, 2021
devvy44:
Rubbish

b4 your start calculating based on 2021 alone, ask yourself if barce has also in the same situation with with their rivals b4 jumping into conclusion.

-did barce exit d ucl at the same stage with madrid?
- did barce face similar injury crisis as madrid?
In the mist of all these, madrid still flogged you, so how have you improved?

as for atm, they have been poor all season long, forget the fact you couldnt win them
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 6:03pm On May 12, 2021
FirstbornWds:
If anything annoyed me most about the game yesterday, it's the sub...


This failure of a coach couldn't even see through to realize that we needed a midfielder to support Busquets to deliver long balls and at least, roughen the opposition players. The idiot went on to bring in Roberto. I was literally cursing the fool for bringing on Riqui at all. Cos he just heaped coals of fire on the young lad.


Still, I maintain, Pedri wasn't the problem at all. The young lad is a strong prospect that can stand the test of time with proper nurturing.


Now that FDJ is set to miss the next match, let me see what this disaster man brings to the table.


For the first time in a while.... I miss Valverde... Messi was right to defend him after all
Are you still looking forward to next match?
Lol.

Everyone should pick a side now!

Athletico or Real.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 6:04pm On May 12, 2021
devvy44:
[s]
In the mist of all these, madrid still flogged you, so how have you improved?

as for atm, they have been poor all season long, forget the fact you couldnt win them[/s]
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 6:04pm On May 12, 2021
By the way, Lahoz will ref UCL final grin grin grin

La liga Drama Queen to the world.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Neimar: 6:13pm On May 12, 2021
Let Juve lose today
I wan check something
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 7:39pm On May 12, 2021
Neimar:
Let Juve lose today
I wan check something
How good are Sassuolo this season?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:41pm On May 12, 2021
NoFap123:
I am glad o
Continue giving me a side blow and under cut jab. I am watching sad angry
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:44pm On May 12, 2021
homesteady:
By the way, Lahoz will ref UCL final grin grin grin

La liga Drama Queen to the world.
I'm actually very happy for Matue Lahoz. Frequent participation of Spanish teams in the UCL finals have impeded Spanish Refs from taking charge of the biggest game of the season. I hope he does a good job and hopefully also get the nod in the upcoming Euro final too. cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:46pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
Are you still looking forward to next match?
Lol.

Everyone should pick a side now!

Athletico or Real.
Atletico.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Neimar: 7:49pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
How good are Sassuolo this season?
still fair
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by NoFap123: 7:53pm On May 12, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Continue giving me a side blow and under cut jab. I am watching sad angry
Hahaha grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 8:59pm On May 12, 2021
Neimar:
Let Juve lose today
 I wan check something
Rent free
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 9:01pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
How good are Sassuolo this season?
As good as your team
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 9:35pm On May 12, 2021
Athletico 2 Sociedad 0
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 9:40pm On May 12, 2021
jpmoriarti:
I'm actually very happy for Matue Lahoz. Frequent participation of Spanish teams in the UCL finals have impeded Spanish Refs from taking charge of the biggest game of the season. I hope he does a good job and hopefully also get the nod in the upcoming Euro final too. cheesy
That's true, I never saw it from this angle.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 10:20pm On May 12, 2021
ddippset:
Athletico 2 Sociedad 0
Hopefully they win the league.
Better Atleti than Real Madrid.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by obonujoker(m): 10:25pm On May 12, 2021
Enemylona think say Atletico go lose today grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by BykeLaByke: 10:50pm On May 12, 2021
This is the Chelsea team that's supposed to beat Pep Guardiola's flying blue angels on the 29th. grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 11:00pm On May 12, 2021
Up Athleti.
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