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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:24pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


How do you know it was Zouma he was trying to protect and not Jorginho?
He said something about how the mistake started. I’ve tried to trace the link but couldn’t get it.

The mistake started from Zouma. Is this too difficult to admit?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:29pm On May 13, 2021
Zouma has been building confidence for how many years now?

He’s 3 years away from hitting 30 and he still got no confidence and sense.

A fast defender, good scorer and good tackler which i don’t doubt, but why can’t this guy learn to hold the ball with confidence?

I remember back in 2016 or so against ManU, how this same Zouma on top small head ball, jumped about 3 million kilometers up and fruuuuu gbaaaaa he landed on the ground and had injury

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 4:37pm On May 13, 2021
Omo, Una get time o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bville02(m): 4:43pm On May 13, 2021
CuteMercury:
If chelsea eventually end up losing the champions league final.
What will come after will be the biggest trolling ever in history of sports entertainment.

The whole world apart from the supporters of chelsea are literally waiting for chelsea to lose the champions league.

The dragging will be epic.

It won't be easy at all. It goes either ways though because if Chelsea win, una no go hear word for this space again o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:24pm On May 13, 2021
swiz123:


Jorginho made the error quite alright. But if we are to go by your analysis, Zouma is right to be inviting stupid pressure on this team abi? Why was he pointing like a maestro which his generation can never be when he should have just passed the ball to either Gilmour or Chillwell. When he was presented with a chance at redemption, he stupidly chose to pass to Jorginho instead of Kepa who was more free.

While we blame Jorginho, we should also endeavor to get rid of Zouma's mediocrity. I prefer brainy defenders to efulefu defenders with unnecessary akpu obi( muscle).

@bolded.... What else are we talking about? Since you agree that Jorginho made the error, why blaming Zouma again?

Why are you guys make it look like Zouma should NOT pass a ball to Jorginho? Check Airmark gif again and tell me who is more under pressure, Jorginho (vs Arsenal) or Silva (vs Madrid)? I'm sure if you are honest, you will agree that Silva is under pressure more. But Rudiger gave him that pass AND NOTHING HAPPENED. Did you not watch that match? Did you complain why would Rudiger play a pass to Silva when Mendy have already opened for him....?

If you have any problem with Zouma, that your own cup of tea. But you see that yesterday's incident? Its no fault of Zouma.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:26pm On May 13, 2021
donstan18:

He said something about how the mistake started. I’ve tried to trace the link but couldn’t get it.

The mistake started from Zouma. Is this too difficult to admit?

So talking of how the mistake started mean he was referring to Zouma? Couldn't the mistake start with Jorginho?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:29pm On May 13, 2021
donstan18:
Zouma has been building confidence for how many years now?

He’s 3 years away from hitting 30 and he still got no confidence and sense.

A fast defender, good scorer and good tackler which i don’t doubt, but why can’t this guy learn to hold the ball with confidence?

I remember back in 2016 or so against ManU, how this same Zouma on top small head ball, jumped about 3 million kilometers up and fruuuuu gbaaaaa he landed on the ground and had injury




It's clear you have a problem with Zouma as a player. You can hate him all you want but blaming him for what is never his fault is wrong in all ramifications.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 5:29pm On May 13, 2021
If Jorginho had passed the ball with his head up, you people will not blame him. This was his only fault.

Zouma is the culprit of that goal, he had a shitty game yesterday. He kept spoiling transitions with with his wrong passes. But the match don go sef, abeg.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SodO9: 5:35pm On May 13, 2021
Olokada have given his verdict without wearing helmet grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:37pm On May 13, 2021
BikeMan:
If Jorginho had passed the ball with his head up, you people will not blame him. This was his only fault.

Zouma is the culprit of that goal, he had a shitty game yesterday. He kept spoiling transitions with with his wrong passes. But the match don go sef, abeg.

Just look at the way you successfully contradicted yourself in two sentences.

Which other fault are you looking for when you have already admitted the main mistake? If Jorginho had passed the ball with his head up, the pass wouldn't have gone to that direction. He would have passed it straight to Kepa. There would not have been a scramble. Aubameyang wouldn't have pounced on the loose ball. Smith Rowe wouldn't have scored. All this back and forth wouldn't have happened.

And don't talk about any delay from Zouma because the moment Zouma made that pass, Jorginho had the whole time in the world to even trap the ball if he wants, raise his head and pick out his keeper. He was under no pressure to make such wayward pass.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:37pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


@bolded.... What else are we talking about? Since you agree that Jorginho made the error, why blaming Zouma again?

Why are you guys make it look like Zouma should NOT pass a ball to Jorginho? Check Airmark gif again and tell me who is more under pressure, Jorginho (vs Arsenal) or Silva (vs Madrid)? I'm sure if you are honest, you will agree that Silva is under pressure more. But Rudiger gave him that pass AND NOTHING HAPPENED. Did you not watch that match? Did you complain why would Rudiger play a pass to Silva when Mendy have already opened for him....?

If you have any problem with Zouma, that your own cup of tea. But you see that yesterday's incident? Its no fault of Zouma.

Did you expect Ruediger to pass the ball to Mendy's left foot when you know we build from the back?
Had Ruediger passed directly to Mendy, the Madrid player would have forced him to clear the ball. But receiving the pass from Silva instead have him the option to spread a pass to Azpi

Ruediger made the correct pass... Madrid press was simply good. Was anybody marking Zouma? Zouma had all the time in the world to make the correct transitional pass to beat Arsenal press... Who could you overlook that? Inviting that pressure was as stupid as it was unnecessary.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:41pm On May 13, 2021
swiz123:


Did you expect Ruediger to pass the ball to Mendy's left foot when you know we build from the back? Ruediger made the correct pass... Madrid press was simply good. Was anybody marking Zouma? Zouma had all the time in the world to make the correct transitional pass to beat Arsenal press... Who could you overlook that? Inviting that pressure was as stupid as it was unnecessary.

grin grin

So because Rudiger was on Mendy's left side means he can't pass the ball to Mendy's right foot? Jeez! Lol.... This is pure comedy.

And you are asking me if anybody was marking Zouma. No, nobody was marking him. That guy was actually marking Drogba.

Bro I'm done with you. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 5:44pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


Just look at the way you successfully contradicted yourself in two sentences.

Which other fault are you looking for when you have already admitted the main mistake? If Jorginho had passed the ball with his head up, the pass wouldn't have gone to that direction. He would have passed it straight to Kepa. There would not have been a scramble. Aubameyang wouldn't have pounced on the loose ball. Smith Rowe wouldn't have scored. All this back and forth wouldn't have happened.

And don't talk about any delay from Zouma because the moment Zouma made that pass, Jorginho had the whole time in the world to even trap the ball if he wants, raise his head and pick out his keeper. He was under no pressure to make such wayward pass.
Man said he was under no pressure, I guess that's it for me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:45pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


Just look at the way you successfully contradicted yourself in two sentences.

Which other fault are you looking for when you have already admitted the main mistake? If Jorginho had passed the ball with his head up, the pass wouldn't have gone to that direction. He would have passed it straight to Kepa. There would not have been a scramble. Aubameyang wouldn't have pounced on the loose ball. Smith Rowe wouldn't have scored. All this back and forth wouldn't have happened.

And don't talk about any delay from Zouma because the moment Zouma made that pass, Jorginho had the whole time in the world to even trap the ball if he wants, raise his head and pick out his keeper. He was under no pressure to make such wayward pass.

Zouma was being chased by Mushin agberos... that's why he chose not to play a forward pass.

Jorginho will still start on Saturday and innocent Zouma will go back to where his destiny is.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:50pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


grin grin

So because Rudiger was on Mendy's left side means he can't pass the ball to Mendy's right foot? Jeez! Lol.... This is pure comedy.

And you are asking me if anybody was marking Zouma. No, nobody was marking him. That guy was actually marking Drogba.

Bro I'm done with you. grin

You posted the wrong picture bro....

Only blatant mediocrity and foolishness will make a CB go backwards in this kind of situation. God forbid ! I don't need such type of mentally slow people in my team.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:50pm On May 13, 2021
swiz123:


Zouma was being chased by Mushin agberos... that's why he chose not to play a forward pass.

Jorginho will still start on Saturday and innocent Zouma will go back to where his destiny is.

Whoever starts any of our match is non of my business. I am Chelsea fan and I support ALL of our players. I dont promote one player to the detriment of another. However I call a spade a spade.

I'm not defending Zouma because I like him more than Jorginho. I am telling you whose fault it is why we conceded and eventually lost the match.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:52pm On May 13, 2021
swiz123:


You posted the wrong picture bro....

Only blatant mediocrity and foolishness will make a CB go backwards in this kind of situation. God forbid ! I don't need such type of mentally slow people in my team.

Shebi you were asking if any body is marking Zouma?

Is this guy marking Mikel?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 5:54pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


Shebi you were asking if any body is marking Zouma?

Is this guy marking Mikel?
Be honest, what is Zouma suppose to do here?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:56pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


Whoever starts any of our match is non of my business. I am Chelsea fan and I support ALL of our players. I dont promote one player to the detriment of another. However I call a spade a spade.

I'm not defending Zouma because I like him more than Jorginho. I am telling you whose fault it is why we conceded and eventually lost the match.

Super sports analysts first identified Zouma's daftness before moving over to Jorginho mistake.

I am just trying correct your faulty opinion that Zouma had no hand in the goal yesterday.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 5:57pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


Shebi you were asking if any body is marking Zouma?

Is this guy marking Mikel?

Abeg, is it not easier for that cow to make a forward pass here Answer honestly

Was that not an opportunity to pass to Chillwell and beat Arsenal's press? Zouma somehow turned our opportunity to tensed situation at the back.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:05pm On May 13, 2021
macjireh:

we are talking about defensive errors leading to goals,,abi did silvers pass lead to a goal? yes,,there have been near misses,,but they didn't lead to us conceding

You obviously didn't get it.

It didn't lead to a goal because Silva didn't make an error. Rudiger like Zouma shouldn't be blamed if it had led to a goal. Get it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:09pm On May 13, 2021
donstan18:

Mendy is right footed and will most likely flop with left if he was given that ball to clear or pass with the pressure those players were coming with, Silva was the only option left for pass and according to you and some few, it’s not TT style to clear ball unnecessarily, but start build up play.

Now tell me why Zouma delayed and didn’t pass ball to Gilmore, Kepa, Chilwell or even Jorginho on time.

Why would Rudiger play to Mendys left foot? Ogbeni, Rudiger would play a soft one easily to Mendy's right and he would have got options of giving Rudiger back who must have opened wider to his left or Silva to his right or Kante approaching in the middle.

Watch the gif again and cancel what you typed up here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:15pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


So talking of how the mistake started mean he was referring to Zouma? Couldn't the mistake start with Jorginho?

There's a reason he couldn't bring excerpt from the 'Ayamatanga' interview that only him watched. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:18pm On May 13, 2021
timbros:


grin grin

So because Rudiger was on Mendy's left side means he can't pass the ball to Mendy's right foot? Jeez! Lol.... This is pure comedy.

And you are asking me if anybody was marking Zouma. No, nobody was marking him. That guy was actually marking Drogba.

Bro I'm done with you. grin

I didn't know you've replied him before i did. I have never seen this kind of opinion before too.

This must be Lordfalcaoo disguising. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 6:29pm On May 13, 2021
airmark:


You obviously didn't get it.

It didn't lead to a goal because Silva didn't make an error. Rudiger like Zouma shouldn't be blamed if it had led to a goal. Get it?
OK I get u...in conclusion,, I give 60% of d error to jorginho,,30% to zouma and 10% to kepa,,,hope I'm fair enof?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:33pm On May 13, 2021
airmark:


Why would Rudiger play to Mendys left foot? Ogbeni, Rudiger would play a soft one easily to Mendy's right and he would have got options of giving Rudiger back who must have opened wider to his left or Silva to his right or Kante approaching in the middle.

Watch the gif again and cancel what you typed up here.
What do you think would have happened if Rudiger had delayed and started point hands up and down? grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:36pm On May 13, 2021
macjireh:

OK I get u...in conclusion,, I give 60% of d error to jorginho,,30% to zouma and 10% to kepa,,,hope I'm fair enof?

Not fair at all. Jorginho should carry the blame as he had dealt with such situation well in the past and he will still have to in our next matches.

I swear i wouldn't have blamed him if Dayo didn't tag me and i saw some even saying Zouma caused the goal.

In fact Jorginho has improved lately on his game and i have no problem with him and i believe he will come back stronger.

Zouma has no blame at all for giving him that pass. That's the point.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:41pm On May 13, 2021
donstan18:

What do you think would have happened if Rudiger had delayed and started point hands up and down? grin cheesy

Don't create another argument.

Was Rudiger wrong by giving Silva that pass instead of the keeper who had no man closing in on him?

If you don't know such passes are baits to lure opponent out, mess up their shape and open them up for attack, then you need to study our games more and ask questions.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 6:58pm On May 13, 2021
airmark:


Don't create another argument.

Was Rudiger wrong by giving Silva that pass instead of the keeper who had no man closing in on him?

If you don't know such passes are baits to lure opponent out, mess up their shape and open them up for attack, then you need to study our games more and ask questions.
Look at mistakes from how it started.

When you do, you’ll agree with me that Zouma is the root cause of that mistake.

Even football pundits and analysts confirmed and pointed out the same thing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:12pm On May 13, 2021
donstan18:

Look at mistakes from how it started.

When you do, you’ll agree with me that Zouma is the root cause of that mistake.

Even football pundits and analysts confirmed and pointed out the same thing.

I am waiting for where Tuchel that trained them blamed Zouma for passing to Jorginho. Nothing concerns me with pundits.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:23pm On May 13, 2021
Yo!!!!! tongue

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 7:52pm On May 13, 2021
These scummies are protesting again.

Na to knack them 15 points off

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