₦airaland Forum

kingthreat:
The bad ones did slavery, the good ones abolished it. Because of slavery, the United States fought a civil war that took hundreds of thousands of lives. Now the world has moved on. But still in your country, your people are kidnapping their own for money, rituals and drug experimentation. Sooner we realize that we are our own problem, the better.

Yes, once slavery became a "trade" upon the arrival of Europeans, Africans were later to become involved in it. Anything else you see us do today is a consequence arising from our unfortunate contact with Europeans and Arabs.

blueAgent:
What's the reality, your growth is dependent on their (Western Innovation) and capitalism.

Something Asains achecvied 100yrs ago is what you are boosting of, Are you expecting Africa to be given a medal doing for others did 100th years ago?

Just the same way they stole art from benin is the same way they stole our technological innovations and write history books to call it "western innovations" which you have swallowed hook line and sinker....

Once a thief always a thief.

Africa was a leader in technology before the 150 years colonial invasion. Before you can innovate after this invasion again you need the basics in place. They continue to sponsor war in Africa to this day.

Emancipated yourself from mental slavery.

I used to be like you.

jimyjames:
Both British and Nigeria need to ask igbos for forgiveness for the 3 million igbos they murdered in the name of one Nigeria

Will Igbos ask for forgiveness for those killed, when they invaded Midwest region

musicwriter:
Yes, once slavery became a "trade" upon the arrival of Europeans, Africans were later to become involved in it. Anything else you see us do today is a consequence arising from our unfortunate contact with Europeans and Arabs.

So an African is just like a leaf that goes whichever direction the wind blows? The reason for independence was for every people to achieve what they can independently. The Europeans have, the Asians have, but Africa is still bent on power and corruption.

blueAgent:
Go and read about Africa culture and caste systems.

Secondly my emphasis was on slavery in Africa before whites came.

Caste system is still found in some parts of Africa and India today but they're not and have never been slaves for sale among Africans or Indians!!. Indeed, those are some of the cultural practices exploited by Europeans who transformed it as a "trade" as a business much later.

Yes, let's talk about slave "trade" in Africa before the coming of Arabs and Europeans. Tell me about slavery as a "trade" before the coming of Arabs and Europeans. Don't reply a one-liner. Give me the history of slave "trade" in Africa before the coming of Arabs and Europeans.

Mikecold:
lol, everyone is now a Christian online

Can you tell this trash to the Islamic state of Turkey

Believe you me that guy isn't a Christian, anyone who first claims to be a Christian does that so yiu won't read his message as been biased is a reverse psychology. He's a head slammer Islamabad

tutudesz:
Will Igbos ask for forgiveness for those killed, when they invaded Midwest region

Nigerian Army massacred people in Midwest Region and those massacred were igbos, the invasion of Midwest happened peacefully

kingthreat:
So an African is just like a leaf that goes whichever direction the wind blows? The reason for independence was for every people to achieve what they can independently. The Europeans have, the Asians have, but Africa is still bent on power and corruption.

The problem is deeper than power and corruption because even power and corruption are but effects. The main problem is that Europeans and Arabs have caused us not to be able to know ourselves intellectually, linguistically, culturally, spiritually. Some Asian countries have changed that but in Africa we keep evolving with what we didn't create. That's the problem.

What king Leopold and it’s progenitors did to the good people of Congo and the vindictive ad brutal murder of Patrice Lumumba can never be washed away in a thousand years and still they’ve failed to neither apologize admit to their huge atrocities and pay reparations to the people of Congo...infact Congo is still been exploited by the Belgians till date.

jimyjames:
Nigerian Army massacred people in Midwest Region and those massacred were igbos, the invasion of Midwest happened peacefully

Peacefully were innocent people not killed by Biafran troops For your information my uncle and others Ijaw people were killed, because Boro.
Both sides killed innocent people and that why the no victor and no vanquished was declared. Ojukwu knew what his men did to Deltans, how they to raped and killed and that why Delta the Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw and Itsekiri hate Biafra.

tutudesz:
Peacefully were innocent people not killed by Biafran troops For your information my uncle and others Ijaw people were killed, because Boro.
Both sides killed innocent people and that why the no victor and no vanquished was declared. Ojukwu knew what his men did to Deltans, how they to raped and killed and that why Delta the Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw and Itsekiri hate Biafra.

The biafran troops did no harm to Midwesterner the invasion was a very peaceful invasion there were about 300 Nigerian soldier's in Midwest 70% of them were Midwest igbos they visited ojukwu in Enugu and planned on the invasion of Midwest to Nigerian capital Lagos together

Biafran soldier's never raped or killed in Midwest it's a lie, the battle was actually at Ore were biafrans fought with the Nigerian 10th battalion

That was why Nigerian soldier's massacred the Midwest igbos when they finally took control of Midwest

ifynicky:
Biafra soldiers didn't massacre midwesterners. Mid westerners then was Igbo people (Aniomas Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika, Oshimiri, etc who were pushing to be seperated from Midwest region to join their Igbo brothers and sisters), Benin, Ijaws, Tshekiris, etc (present Delta and Edo states). rather the rest of the midwesterners massacred the Igbo people in the region just because they are Igbo.

People ran to some part of Edo State for safety and were told to go and meet their brothers. The lucky ones left back to Ahaba and Anioma land while the unlucky ones were killed there.

Please get your facts right.

When biafra soldiers were trying to leave their domain, they faced resistance from Nigeria soldiers.... they didn't massacre innocent civilians.

The records are everywhere and from interviews of Biafra heroes

During the Biafran Retreat from the Midwest every Non Igbo along the Withdrawal route between Benin and Agbor was shot dead

When the Biafran Army reached Agbor they slaughtered every Non Igbo they could find

They had done the Same between Ore and Benin killing all Non Igbos along the withdrawal route

When the Federal Soldiers advanced into the Midwest Region both side of the Road were full of dead bodies from the boundary of Ore in the Western Region all the way to Agbor a distance of at least 200 km

In both Agenebode and Okene the Biafran Soldiers perpetrated another huge Massacre in Which hundreds of Civilians were Slaughtered

Gowon prevented the full details of the Biafran atrocities to be Published in the Spirit of reconciliation,

Ogbemudia the Governor of the Mid west said that it the atrocities committed by the Biafran Soldiers had been Published it would have been harder for the Midwesterners to forgive and forget

The Justice Omo Eboh Panels report on the atrocities committed by the Biafran Soldiers during their Occupation of the Midwest was said to have filled more than 20 boxes.

In the book written by Obi Ebbe who as a Biafran Soldier was part of the Biafran invasion of the Midwest and Ore he admitted that Biafran Soldiers killed all non Igbos during their retreat from Ore through the Midwest back to the East because they didn’t want them to pass the information of their movement to the federal forces who were in pursuit behind them

Obi Ebbe was even honest enough to admit that Biafran Soldiers desperate to escape killed non Igbos in Cars and dumped their bodies by the side of the road after taking the Cars from them because there were not enough vehicles to transport the fleeing Biafran Soldiers back to the East. He included the Photograph of the road with the dead bodies of the Non Igbos on both sides of it for as far as the eye could see.

When the Biafran Soldiers invaded Asaba they Slaughtered all Northerners they found especially at Cable Point Which was the Hausa quarters read Gen Alabi Isama “Tragedy of Victory “

GeneralPula:
To hell with their apology..
These white Europeans ruin Africa no be small..
Then they gave us their religion again to kept us forever in captivity..
France has eaten the past, present and future of Benin republic

Can you explain more please. What makes you say so?

jimyjames:
The biafran troops did no harm to Midwesterner the invasion was a very peaceful invasion there were about 300 Nigerian soldier's in Midwest 70% of them were Midwest igbos they visited ojukwu in Enugu and planned on the invasion of Midwest to Nigerian capital Lagos together

Biafran soldier's never raped or killed in Midwest it's a lie, the battle was actually at Ore were biafrans fought with the Nigerian 10th battalion

That was why Nigerian soldier's massacred the Midwest igbos when they finally took control of Midwest

Wow!!! Who told you the invasion was peaceful Igbos killed Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw and Itsekiri people during when they invaded, Igbos will never agreed to what biafra troops did and that was why Ojukwu couldn't visit warri till his death.
Has usual Biafra troops we're saints, who never killed innocent people or rape women

Christistruth00:
During the Biafran Retreat from the Midwest every Non Igbo along the Withdrawal route between Benin and Agbor was shot dead

When the Biafran Army reached Agbor they slaughtered every Non Igbo they could find

They had done the Same between Ore and Benin killing all Non Igbos along the withdrawal route

When the Federal Soldiers advanced into the Midwest Region both side of the Road were full of dead bodies from the boundary of Ore in the Western Region all the way to Agbor a distance of at least 200 km

In both Agenebode and Okene the Biafran Soldiers perpetrated another huge Massacre in Which hundreds of Civilians were Slaughtered

Gowon prevented the full details of the Biafran atrocities to be Published in the Spirit of reconciliation,

Ogbemudia the Governor of the Mid west said that it the atrocities committed by the Biafran Soldiers had been Published it would have been harder for the Midwesterners to forgive and forget

The Justice Omo Eboh Panels report on the atrocities committed by the Biafran Soldiers during their Occupation of the Midwest was said to have filled more than 30 boxes.

Because of this Ojukwu couldn't visit Edo and Delta state after the war, Ijaw people were killed because of Boro. They will always paint biafra troops has saints

tutudesz:
Wow!!! Who told you the invasion was peaceful Igbos killed Urhobo, Isoko, Ijaw and Itsekiri people during when they invaded, Igbos will never agreed to what biafra troops did and that was why Ojukwu couldn't visit warri till his death.
Has usual Biafra troops we're saints, who never killed innocent people or rape women

The invasion of Midwest was peaceful the person in charge of that invasion was a Yoruba commander victor banjo he was given the mission to pass through Midwest and reach Lagos in 24 hours banjo entered Midwest with the biafran troops and abandoned the mission, he purposely delayed in Midwest secretly negotiating with the federal government communicating security through phone conversation for a whole week on a mission that was planned to accomplish in 24 hours

The only place biafrans shot a gun was in bini they shot in the air and all the 150 soldier's guiding the government house plus the governor of Midwest all ran away


Why should ojukwu visit warri? What was his business in warri? People of rivers state accused biafran troops of the same thing, ojukwu visited rivers State many times, he is one of the few who were given back there properties in rivers state

jimyjames:
The invasion of Midwest was peaceful the person in charge of that invasion was a Yoruba commander victor banjo he was given the mission to pass through Midwest and reach Lagos in 24 hours banjo entered Midwest with the biafran troops and abandoned the mission, he purposely delayed in Midwest secretly negotiating with the federal government communicating security through phone conversation for a whole week on a mission that was planned to accomplish in 24 hours

The only place biafrans shot a gun was in bini they shot in the air and all the 150 soldier's guiding the government house plus the governor of Midwest all ran away


Why should ojukwu visit warri? What was his business in warri? People of rivers state accused biafran troops of the same thing, ojukwu visited rivers State many times, he is one of the few who were given back there properties in rivers state

We from that area are telling you what biafra troops did and you are arguing you think if there is a public enquiry about what happened during the invasion of Midwest by biafra troops, Igbos will be able to wake free in Delta The no victor no vanquished was a way of protecting both the Nigeria and Biafra troops from there war crimes, So before Nigeria Government apologize to Igbos, Igbos will apologize to Midwest people.

Ikwerelastborn:
Is very pathetic and unintelligent of you to think they did it due to Christianity, it was purely a racial war,
Between you're no Christian, stop deceiving yourself, headslammer islamabad

Qudsi:
Is this the new way you muslims lie now on Nairaland. After telling lies as trained at your islamic centers. You will end it with "I'm Christian".
Sledgehammer fall on your head there, cheap antichrist.

The irony is that I'm actually quite accomplished, well rounded, compassionate, and give deep thought to most of my opinions on such heavy subject matter.

You're here saying they didn't do it due to Christianity. Yet most of us accept when people say modern-day terrorists are doing it because of Islam.

Please apply the same standards to the conversation: either they are all terrorists because of their religion, or they are not. I was referring to the statement: "not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims", which ignores the glaring fact that Christians (i.e. the West) committed some of the worst atrocities the world has seen. We should either apply this universally to all religions, or not make the statement at all.

These sentiments unnecessarily divide us, when the problem (at least in Africa) is bad leadership that uses their position to subjugate the masses. I point to the Sokoto Caliphate as a prime example of the problem - and it's not their religion that justifies it (afterall in Islam, all are equal before God).

Because I realize people would assume I was a Muslim for defending Muslims - and therefore discount my post - I mentioned I was Christian, so people would understand that you don't have to be Muslim to understand bigotry against Muslims.

God bless.

tutudesz:
We from that area are telling you what biafra troops did and you are arguing you think if there is a public enquiry about what happened during the invasion of Midwest by biafra troops, Igbos will be able to wake free in Delta The no victor no vanquished was a way of protecting both the Nigeria and Biafra troops from there war crimes, So before Nigeria Government apologize to Igbos, Igbos will apologize to Midwest people.

Whatever you people belief in your area is true only in your area and yes igbos will walk freely in Delta State if there is a public enquiry of the biafran invasion, unless you want to sent Delta igbos away from their homes cause they worked hand in hand with the biafran troops and Nigerian Army massacred them in public for it

jimyjames:
Whatever you people belief in your area is true only in your area and yes igbos will walk freely in Delta State if there is a public enquiry of the biafran invasion, unless you want to sent Delta igbos away from their homes cause they worked hand in hand with the biafran troops and Nigerian Army massacred them in public for it

While biafra troops are saints

Nice one from the Germans I wonder when the British and the nigerian govts will emulate this and humble themselves and accept that they actually committed worser genocide on the igbo nation during the nigerian/biafran war?

tutudesz:
While biafra troops are saints

There is no where on record that biafran troops entered a town or village lined up a group of men from a particular tribe and executed them by firing squad like Nigerian army did in asaba if there is any record show me.

kingthreat:
So an African is just like a leaf that goes whichever direction the wind blows? The reason for independence was for every people to achieve what they can independently. The Europeans have, the Asians have, but Africa is still bent on power and corruption.

Hitler did his own massacre. Germany and UK are only how they are today due to theft from other countries....

JavaScript909:
Germany is a good country. Always ready to acknowledge their roles and flaws in their dark past. But also making conscious effort to address them.

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kingthreat:
I am a student of history. State your facts to defend your statements. I stand by mine.

being a student at history doesn't mean anything,you might be a ......

I just want to remind you owning slaves was Normal back then.
Black people traded slaves amongst themselves.
Same way they traded with the Europeans and Arabians .
And stop saying nonsense about black selling each other.
Arabians owned Arabian slaves and traded with other people
Even oned white slaves

So that trash you said previously is completely invalid and irritating.

The bone of contention is not whether blacks sold other blacks
But
How the slaves sold to the Europeans where treated.
Why and how their rights where taken away from them.
And the evil doing of colonial powers in their respective province.

Stop acting stupid

musicwriter:
Caste system is still found in some parts of Africa and India today but they're not and have never been slaves for sale among Africans or Indians!!. Indeed, those are some of the cultural practices exploited by Europeans who transformed it as a "trade" as a business much later.

Yes, let's talk about slave "trade" in Africa before the coming of Arabs and Europeans. Tell me about slavery as a "trade" before the coming of Arabs and Europeans. Don't reply a one-liner. Give me the history of slave "trade" in Africa before the coming of Arabs and Europeans.

stop disgracing yourself online.

GeneralPula:
To hell with their apology..

These white Europeans ruin Africa no be small..

Then they gave us their religion again to kept us forever in captivity..

France has eaten the past, present and future of Benin republic

Is it true Africans where going about naked or wearing leaves and animal skin as coverings b4 the colonial masters arrived?

Why has the black man refuse to evolve?

Mikecold:
Waiting for Terrorist Erdogan to do same with Armenia

You'll probably be "Waiting for Godot!"

jimyjames:
There is no where on record that biafran troops entered a town or village lined up a group of men from a particular tribe and executed them by firing squad like Nigerian army did in asaba if there is any record show me.

Because ijaws refuse to put it record, doesn't mean it never happened or are you trying to say biafra troops never killed innocent people through out the war

EMMY76:
Nice one from the Germans I wonder when the British and the nigerian govts will emulate this and humble themselves and accept that they actually committed worser genocide on the igbo nation during the nigerian/biafran war?

As a person, you have 2 hands and 2 legs to make you complete .
If somebody cut 1 hand off, you cannot apologies to that person. The person is an enemy. He is supposed to apologize to you for cutting your hand, today or tomorrow
As a one Nigeria, Igbo cut their self from Nigeria and govt beat them and force them back to join Nigeria. How can govt ever apologise? It's impossible
Americans took independence from UK and cut off themselves in 1740. How can you expect UK to apologize to them again? UK just tell them fuckyou and get out. And the two countries live thei separate ways.
Nigeria govt can only tell Igbo people, fuckyou! and sitdown there

uuzba:
As a person, you have 2 hands and 2 legs to make you complete .
If somebody cut 1 hand off, you cannot apologies to that person. The person is an enemy. He is supposed to apologize to you for cutting your hand, today or tomorrow
As a one Nigeria, Igbo cut their self from Nigeria and govt beat them and force them back to join Nigeria. How can govt ever apologise? It's impossible
Americans took independence from UK and cut off themselves in 1740. How can you expect UK to apologize to them again? UK just tell them fuckyou and get out. And the two countries live thei separate ways.
Nigeria govt can only tell Igbo people, fuckyou! and sitdown there

You don't make any sense here am talking about the genocide on innocent igbo civilians not ur so called one nigeria.