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nihilistjnr:
The question I asked you is if EPL is a scam sir?

Is EPL a scam?

All leagues can be termed a scam.
Just like Hazard going to Spain and not performing or Icardi going to PSG having dominated Italy and not performing .

But that's a subjective statement tho cos there as still players who leave a league and perform elsewhere. Tho Italy is down the pecking order of that. A league that Ronaldo ressurected from death

hensben:
Answer this honest question, can patrick bamford of leeds do what halaand is doing for dortmund?

I don't really get why you'd ask me that.

Bamford is a mere and barely average player. Even in his widest dreams he can't.

nihilistjnr:
Haaland is nowhere near as good as Lukaku. Lukaku at Haaland's age had already scored over 100 goals in real leagues including Belgian, UCL and EPL.

we compare Lukaku and Kane since those days. If it Haaland, probably greenwood or rashford

Havertz10:
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Werner rushes too much but that mount's pass wasn't good enough, even messi makes mistakes, I don't understand why una dey behave like say mount is faultless in anything he does.

So essentially, the ball your MCM put to Werner's front, and he couldn't even kick it, but it's the pass that was the problem?

Chairman rest!

It's not Werner you use to judge quality of pass. There's no pass you give that man that he can use his left leg to score. Ask Gundogan

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DumaEmpire:
I don't really get why you'd ask me that.

Bamford is a mere and barely average player. Even in his widest dreams he can't.

if I did not watch bamford the real ford, not rashidiford, I would believe you.

Would you also call Calvert-Lewin barely average?

DumaEmpire:
All leagues can be termed a scam.
Just like Hazard going to Spain and not performing or Icardi going to PSG having dominated Italy and not performing .

But that's a subjective statement tho cos there as still players who leave a league and perform elsewhere. Tho Italy is down the pecking order of that. A league that Ronaldo ressurected from death

Lukaku did the business in England posting 4 seasons of 20+ goals...including at the Manyoo that you asked for.

Should we mobilise a search party for your point?

BlueAngel444:
Look at still hate Mount playing wings, you may not have been aware of that, but in terms of rating all my Chelsea's attackers

Mount comes out top, just goes to show how Pulisic didn't step up, Ziyech floundered, Havertz just popped up, and CHO was not trusted. I would not even count Werner and Abraham, because Giroud was better than both and Abraham was better than Werner, but as a winger Werner was our next best option.

E goes to show how useless and wasteful the bunch of 6 attackers were, that Barkley and RLC at a time seemed better if they had stayed

let's leave this matter, wasn't ziyech the next best thing since slice bread on this thread under Lampard

I remember people hailing his crosses and weeping when he got injured, waiting for him to return, suddenly he is useless because tuchel plays a different system that doesn't suit his abilities


Mount is fortunate that the system that Chelsea have used has worked for him and his uselessness has been useful but he isnt a Chelsea caliber player, same people praising mount today will talk against him tomorrow when my complains about him become more obvious, euro go soon start, British media like to scapegoat players, mount should give them what he gives to Chelsea as 10 and you will see the outrage that it will cause, na here we dey

BlueAngel444:
if I did not watch bamford the real ford, not rashidiford, I would believe you.

Would you also call Calvert-Lewin barely average?

You could go form a club with Bamford, Olly Watkins and Calverg Lewin as your striker.

We're talking about a worldclass striker who can be a pointman to a worldclass team and you're bringing Bamford, Calvert of averge teams to the mix to compare with a player whose breaking records at the best European competition in history (UCL)

nihilistjnr:
Lukaku did the business in England posting 4 seasons of 20+ goals...including at the Manyoo that you asked for.

Should we mobilise a search party for your point?

Well you got your preference. But i's still take Haaland whose making the Ucl look like a joke with his goals over Lukaku who has failed to take his team past the groupstage im 2 years of asking and even failed at winning the Europa.

If he was that good at Man U. Mou wouldn't have signed Ibrahimovich who helped them win the Europa league. Lukaku's only trophy since 2017 till he managed to win the SerieA this year

DumaEmpire:
So who should we sign??
Don't even say Lukaku cos Italy is even a bigger scam. With likes of Morata who couldn't score in an empty net... By the way its funny how likes of Piatek, Belotti suddenly crumbled after no big club were interested in their ponzi.

Tuchel, Pep, Klopp all came from the Bundesliga. If they could make it as coaches then definitely players from there can strive.

thought Lukaku was an international player not just an Italian player

donstan18:
2 goals... One against Porto that eliminated Juventus with Ronaldo.

One against Madrid with 13 Ucl trophies.

Assist in the Finals against midfielders and defenders worth more than 400 million.

One MOTM.

Tell us why your Fraudvertz didn’t make this list?

I already told you why Havertz didn't make the cut..

Now you didn't tell me why Mount scored only two goals despite having one of the best minutes of UCL football.

Was he too good not to score Krasnodar, Sevilla and Lille?

And please, don't embarrass yourself with da Madrid goal. That goal was purely Kante. He did all the work and passed it to Pulisic who then dropped it for Mount on a platter of gold. All these happened when the game was almost over

If you have some spare time, you can as well enlighten me on why our Lord was subbed off in the most important game of his carrer

DumaEmpire:
You could go form a club with Bamford, Olly Watkins and Calverg Lewin as your striker.

We're talking about a worldclass striker who can be a pointman to a worldclass team and you're bringing Bamford, Calvert of averge teams to the mix to compare with a player whose breaking records at the best European competition in history (UCL)

mbappe came from Monaco, Haaland from a club I don't even recall it's name. Wetin be your point

We have too many new world class attackers misfiring and finding form to add a new one

Meanwhile Tuchel's targets Rice, Lukaku, Traore, mean say him wan win EPL next season.

Every player from Germany I recall, except auba, needed at least a season or two to adjust

Havertz10:
let's leave this matter, wasn't ziyech the next best thing since slice bread on this thread under Lampard

I remember people hailing his crosses and weeping when he got injured, waiting for him to return, suddenly he is useless because tuchel plays a different system that doesn't suit his abilities


Mount is fortunate tthought system that Chelsea have used has worked for him and his uselessness has been useful but he isnt a Chelsea caliber player, same people praising mount today will talk against him tomorrow when my complains about him become more obvious, euro go soon start, British media like to scapegoat players, mount should give them what he gives to Chelsea as 10 and you will see the outrage that it will cause, na here we dey

Ziyech did not become useless, you except new players without preseason and injuries to automatically adjust to different managers like it is a PS or Xbox character and the console just changed hands.

Because it is viewed on the screen doesn't mean this are not real humans.

You talk about being fortunate in a system, like the crap I read about trippeir, like a player cannot improve at least watch him in LA liga and see the improvement. If a player you consider average improves in a team, you blame the system if he flops, obviously he was never good enough.

Be like you na all attend the same school of thought. The only reason Havertz is benching Ziyech is because of his defensive contribution and that we don't have a quality top 9 to utilize Ziyech's passing ability.


Yes we are here, but your type would prefer cutting his tongue than admit the truth if Mount prevails in Euros and does well

Funny how Chelsea that used to be the joke of nairaland sports section Couple of months ago is now the talk of all the thread in this sports section...
Scumies,assnal fans and barka fans are clamoring for a tight defence like ours some calling rudeboy and chris classic defenders. The same new signings they were calling names and trolling us with memes are now world class to them.
Tuchel that was called a failure by fans that lick the ass of the likes of ole And arteta is now been worshiped being worshiped by our rivals..
E sweet my bele jor. All I need is more addition to the squad in every area needed and we are ready to challenge for any title.
So next seasons at least 3 trophies would be ours. Super cup,club world cup( abi na wetin be the name) and another 1 or 2 major trophies...
Ktbffh

thorrvik55:
Mount, worst player on the pitch with 0 creativity put the ball on a plate for the goal that secured the champions league final..

Grace us with gifs of the "creative" attackers doing their things

it's annoying when we consider that people say iniesta is the best because he played a "simple" pass to clinch a cup in a team of soo many stars

DumaEmpire:
Well you got your preference. But i's still take Haaland whose making the Ucl look like a joke with his goals over Lukaku who has failed to take his team past the groupstage im 2 years of asking and even failed at winning the Europa.

If he was that good at Man U. Mou wouldn't have signed Ibrahimovich who helped them win the Europa league. Lukaku's only trophy since 2017 till he managed to win the SerieA this year

If it comes down to personal preference, then I obviously I cant argue with you

But stat-wise, Haaland cannot touch Lukaku. Haaland has only really had 1 good full season bros, having only played 2 full seaons of football in his LIFE at a decent level of competition, and I'm being generous here by including Austrian league in the decent competition category.

Lukaku aged 16 won both golden boot AND best player in the league in a Belgian league that's at the same level as the Austrian League.

Haaland's hype now is partly due to the social media generation. Lukaku was who Haaland is now, but in my opinion even better. If twitter, insta, and 24/7 internet hype was around in 2009...my God.

The argument about the trophies won is just dumb. How many trophies has Harry Kane won?

User09:
You've not been paying attention to Tuchel then. You should be more worried about where Mason plays the moment TT stops this front 3 stuff if he does

Cos if rumours are to be believed, He wants Rice; I still cant figure out where Mount's best position will be with a sitting DM

TT has been using a front three since like..............

Donstan18 should admit that Havertz will still be a starter alongside Mount, na only inform Werner or fully fit Pulisic that can bench Mount. And Ziyech, Havertz.

Signing a CF is to bench Werner

DumaEmpire:
If we want to talk about how German players are scams let's not forget to put Italian players there aswell.
See likes of Zappacosta, Emerson, Icardi all bunch of wastes
And Italian managers sef wer selfish pass anything in life.
That's why CR7 at 36 is making their league look like a conplete joke

Zappacosta and Emerson were squad players, why you no mention Alonso?

BlueAngel444:
mbappe came from Monaco, Haaland from a club I don't even recall it's name. Wetin be your point

We have too many new world class attackers misfiring and finding form to add a new one

Meanwhile Tuchel's targets Rice, Lukaku, Traore, mean say him wan win EPL next season.

Every player from Germany I recall, except auba, needed at least a season or two to adjust

Yes just like De bruyne struggled at Man City with Gundogan and Firmino struggled with Liverpool ba. Or Pulisic before the injuries.
One thing you should know is that German players are different from international players who were brought to Germany. Players who have struggled are mostly players born and raised there. Haaland was bought after making Norway look like a joke and he's gone to Germany and made it look like a joke. Infact all the competitions he's been in at Europe is like a child's play to him even the Ucl. Hope you get the point now

Fact is Haaland remains the best player to get right now. Only if the player says he doesn't want to leave Dortmund then i rest my case.
But if the guy is available then he's the best buy.

Chelsea players need to start timing their passes to a player like Turbo Werner.

I wish Ziyech would be back inform

Chelsea XI on PS

Mendy
Cesar Silva Rudiger (who must never again play in a back 4 for Chelsea) Chilwell

Jorginho Kante

Ziyech Havertz Pulisic (shows how badly these three players flopped that Mount outshined players who were one of the best in their previous teams)

Werner


This was the kind of line up we thought of beginning of season, before lampard and the players flopped

Havertz10:
why didn't mount put the ball in front of werner for one time shot? You can't pass the ball to a person's side and expect the person to miraculously play the shot one time, even snipers know that you aim ahead of the targets location, since he was moving

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Now this illogical and irrational from you.I think It's high time i side with people who are saying you're just hating mount. I mean just look at the question you asked above and tell me if it makes sense and not hatred.


Somebody should get us a gif of Fabregas's pass to Costa against Swansea at the bridge let judge if it was the pass that was wrong or you're just trying to shield Werner the garbage .

So Atletico players being happy when them pair them with us for R16....

Havertz10:
why didn't mount put the ball in front of werner for one time shot? You can't pass the ball to a person's side and expect the person to miraculously play the shot one time, even snipers know that you aim ahead of the targets location, since he was moving

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This pass was far better than the one Havertz pass to him earlier. Na goal bound be this for any average striker but Werner is below average striker.

DumaEmpire:
Yes just like De bruyne struggled at Man City with Gundogan and Firmino struggled with Liverpool ba. Or Pulisic before the injuries.
One thing you should know is that German players are different from international players who were brought to Germany. Players who have struggled are mostly players born and raised there. Haaland was bought after making Norway look like a joke and he's gone to Germany and made it look like a joke. Infact all the competitions he's been in at Europe is like a child's play to him even the Ucl. Hope you get the point now

Fact is Haaland remains the best player to get right now. Only if the player says he doesn't want to leave Dortmund then i rest my case.
But if the guy is available then he's the best buy.

KDB and Gundogan didn't do anything spectacular in their first season. In fact apart from KDB previously season before pep, what did he do, na pep make KDB shine for city well.

Gundogan was a squad player, who was he to bench, at a time even B.Silva was benching him in midfield. Na recently Gundogan dey shine

Pulisic was being benched by CHO

Firmino was just there in his team till Salah was signed and put him and Liverpool in limelight.

Haaland has already said he is focused on Dortmund and he doesn't look like all these overzealous boys eager for a move. His best bet is to stay in Dortmund which would be better for both parties.


The only strikers likely to move are Kane, his decision, Lukaku, financial situation. Luckily Juve seem content with Morata, Barca have gone for Aguero, that leaves City and Chelsea.
United will most likely sign Sancho, continue to use Rashford, Martial, Cavani as 9.

For Chelsea o, Haaland is not the best player, black striker is the best, 90% of the white ones have flopped, but strikers like Drogba,Anelka, Tammy have at least tried, Costa doesn't count as white . So Lukaku, just as I wanted him more than Morata, but if we sign Haaland, na to support am.

Kane will most likely join City

nihilistjnr:
If it comes down to personal preference, then I obviously I cant argue with you

But stat-wise, Haaland cannot touch Lukaku. Haaland has only really had 1 good full season bros, having only played 2 full seaons of football in his LIFE at a decent level of competition, and I'm being generous here by including Austrian league in the decent competition category.

Lukaku aged 16 won both golden boot AND best player in the league in a Belgian league that's at the same level as the Austrian League.

Haaland's hype now is partly due to the social media generation. Lukaku was who Haaland is now, but in my opinion even better. If twitter, insta, and 24/7 internet hype was around in 2009...my God.

The argument about the trophies won is just dumb. How many trophies has Harry Kane won?

Yeah, social media today has really helped push and promote nonsensical agendas. That's how they started that nonsense of van dijk being superior than Ramos , I was surprised to see even see him being voted as the bundesliga player of the year ahead of Lewandowski who broke gerd Mueller's record
Haaland still has time on his side to be the undisputed striking heavyweight in the world but for now comparing him to Lukaku and kane is a no no

nihilistjnr:
Post the Havertz clear cut chance to Werner again, and then tell us what Werner did with the ball to 'his front'

Werner is a eunuch in the box. Any decent striker does a lot better with that chance.

He could have controlled with the outside of his left boot to set up the shot. He could have taken it first time. He could have let it run.

What you're seeing there is somebody that doesnt know what to do with his leg. They call it counting leg in coal tar.

That's why he only has 2 league goals in 2021

Any average striker will score that thing but Werner is beyond poor .

nihilistjnr:
If it comes down to personal preference, then I obviously I cant argue with you

But stat-wise, Haaland cannot touch Lukaku. Haaland has only really had 1 good full season bros, having only played 2 full seaons of football in his LIFE at a decent level of competition, and I'm being generous here by including Austrian league in the decent competition category.

Lukaku aged 16 won both golden boot AND best player in the league in a Belgian league that's at the same level as the Austrian League.

Haaland's hype now is partly due to the social media generation. Lukaku was who Haaland is now, but in my opinion even better. If twitter, insta, and 24/7 internet hype was around in 2009...my God.

The argument about the trophies won is just dumb. How many trophies has Harry Kane won?

You're talking asif this Lukaku didn't play for us before. We were the club that got him from Belgium remember... The 2011/12season dude ofcos was never going to bench the stars but however was blank when called upon. Before being sent on loan to WestBrom where he started shining again and we got him back 2013 where he was still crap before shipping him off to Everton where he picked up again then Man U got him in 2016 but didn't think twice before selling to Inter where another Deja vu is on.
Even at the intertional stage dude was banging goals but at 2014 WC was a mute as a snail. 2018 WC dude after tge group stage man was blank and if not for likes of Hazard and De bruyne they probably wouldn't have gottwn past the R16 knockouts.
I don't really get what all the hype is about. We need a striker that can perform at the grandest stage not to score hat trick at Fulham and be blank at major finals.

swiz123:
They are CMs. Mount is an attacker.

I was honestly shocked at how we went from promoting Mount for Balon d'or to promoting Kante for it just within less than 2 months.

oga Mount is a CM, a central midfielder, an 8. Complete full time 8. Him playing AM is because of incompetent players in the team.

Like Gilmour is an 8, whether he players 6 or 10.

hensben:
Nobody promoted mount for ballon d or. Iniesta and modric are the central attacking midfielders for their respective teams. CAM, LMF or AMF are same thing depending on the formation. Mount is playing LMF for us. You need to understand formation and tactics

you don tell am already

donstan18:
Halland and Fraudvertz fit dey the same WhatsApp group.

honestly the same way I said Chelsea did not need Havertz because Mount is already there, is the same thing with Havertz and Haaland.

Isnt Havertz more talented and skilful than Haaland, didn't he bang lots of goals in Germany.

Chelsea boars should learn from buying Werner and Havertz and not buy Haaland, at least not for 150m

DumaEmpire:
You're talking asif this Lukaku didn't play for us before. We were the club that got him from Belgium remember... The 2011/12season dude ofcos was never going to bench the stars but however was blank when called upon. Before being sent on loan to WestBrom where he started shining again and we got him back 2013 where he was still crap before shipping him off to Everton where he picked up again then Man U got him in 2016 but didn't think twice before selling to Inter where another Deja vu is on.
Even at the intertional stage dude was banging goals but at 2014 WC was a mute as a snail. 2018 WC dude after tge group stage man was blank and if not for likes of Hazard and De bruyne they probably wouldn't have gottwn past the R16 knockouts.
I don't really get what all the hype is about. We need a striker that can perform at the grandest stage not to score hat trick at Fulham and be blank at major finals.

I hate it when Ibime says it, but it seems like it's true.

You must be young so you clearly dont remember the 2011 - 2014/15 era. What year did Torres join Chelsea? What happened in 2013 that led to Jose sending Lukaku away and instead signing old man Etoo Fils who then gave us a grand total of 9 league goals. How many minutes did Lukaku play for Chelsea gan gan?

That was the same era KDB, Salah joined and left the club. Bros if you don't know what was happening at Chelsea that time, just relax. But Lukaku leaving the club was definitely not for footballing reasons.

BlueAngel444:
honestly the same way I said Chelsea did not need Havertz because Mount is already there, is the same thing with Havertz and Haaland.

Isnt Havertz more talented and skilful than Haaland, didn't he bang lots of goals in Germany.

Chelsea boars should learn from buying Werner and Havertz and not buy Haaland, at least not for 150m

To be honest, if they aren't buying Lukaku or Kane make them leave. We will manage Werner and Havertz.

Get another quality CB in Botman or Marquinhos, Adama Traore who can play both RWB and on the wings, and a DM like Tchouameni or Rice. Loan Gilmour.

Let both Alonso and Emerson leave and bring back Ian Maatsen. Let one of CHO or Ziyech or Pulisic leave. Let go of both Tammy and Giroud. Clear out the deadwood or loan them for extra cash from loan fees. I hear we want Hakimi too but that guy go too cost.

But if no be Kane or Lukaku make them no buy another attacker abeg