Kilishihunter:

Because he didn't win the UCL, ballon d or or golden boot, Which one bro? Even that season y'all are saying he carried Messi, the latter was joint top scorer alongside him and Ronaldo, had the most assists in the season (6) and won the UEFA player of the year, if you call neymar, don't forget to also call Dani Alves, ter Stegen and Umtiti

quote Raumdeuter na, why u dey quote me

raumdeuter:


When was this Messi peak? How long did this peak last for? Did he drop off his peak immediately Pep left him at age 25?

Was any of his cricket scorelines during Messis peak

What did other coaches who managed Messi at his peak achieve for club and country

Messi peak was between 08- 15.
And pep didn't manage just Messi, he had great players who were in their peak like Xavier,iniesta, Alves etc..
The Barca team of recent times has gotten worse which is the reason for those scorelines

hensben:
They keep shouting 31 players like say Pep go fit use them win rubber spoon.

The Morata Bakayoko Drinkwater Barkley Zappacosta Palmieri he bought for a quarter of a billion shebi he use dem win

If Pep had carried a team like in the caliber of Dortmund, porto or Monaco to the CL finals even without winning it, there would be at least some sort of credibility of him as a top manager..
But failing to take Bayern and Mancity, teams who had arguably the best squads in the competition to a combined one finals is a serious indictment on the so called 'best manager in the world'

kendrick9:
Messi peak was between 08- 15.
And pep didn't manage just Messi, he had great players who were in their peak like Xavier,iniesta, Alves etc..
The Barca team of recent times has gotten worse which is the reason for those scorelines

Who was missing from the team that got smashed 7-0 by Bayern? Who among these people were missing aside Pep?

More than 20 people have been allegedly killed in Igangan, one of the towns in Ibarapa North local government, as gunmen opened fire last night.

The Palace of the Asigangan as well as a popular petroleum station were not spared. They were razed by the suspected bandits numbering 50, who were said to have invaded the town around 11 pm in more than 20 motorcycles.

This is coming few days after the chairman Oyo State Security Network codenamed Amotekun Corps, General Kunle Togun (rtd) alleged that foreign Fulanis have encamped the entire Southwest region and may strike if nothing is done urgently.

A former caretaker chairman of the council, Tunji Omolewu, who confirmed the incident to OYOINSIGHT.COM said he had to rush down around 5 am this morning.

”People had barely retired to bed when they said they sighted motorcycles entering the town. Before our people could know what was going on, they had started killing people. I got the call around 11 pm. We were on our way from Ekiti where we had gone to do the Yoruba nation rally. I got to Ibadan around 12 am and when the calls did not stop coming, I decided to come home. I have counted more than 20 dead bodies. The palace of our monarch was torched. Adolak filling station too was burnt. We are assembled here…” he said, almost breaking down in tears.

A former caretaker chairman of neighbouring Ibarapa Central, Yemi Akinlabi, who is holidaying in the United States, said his phone was bombarded with calls.

”It is so sad. Only few days ago, our people got intelligence report and forwarded it to the appropriate quarters for actions but here we are today. Are we going to continue to live in fear in our land? I have spoken to General Toogun about last night’s incident and we would want him and his team to do something. Our people must not be allowed to resort to self-help,” he added.

https://oyoinsight.com/breaking-igangan-boils-again-20-killed-palace-petrol-station-burnt/


Suspected Fulani Herdsmen Return To Oyo Community, Shoot 28-year-old Farmer

Suspected Fulani herders have again attacked a farmer, Kaptain Kaston, in the Ibarapa area of Oyo State.

The incident was said to have happened in Idiyan, a village near Igangan in Ibarapa North Local Government Area of the state.

SaharaReporters gathered that the 28-year-old Kaston was attacked on Friday near his farm.

He was reportedly ordered not to tell anybody that he was attacked, and he agreed with them.

But the gunmen were said not to be convinced that he would not disclose their ethnic origin and this made them shoot him on the shoulder, a source said.

It was learnt that the victim was also injured with a cutlass in some parts of his body.

The Convener of Igangan Development Advocates, Oladiran Oladokun, confirmed the incident.

Oladokun said, "The farmer was reportedly attacked by three criminal Fulani men around his farm at Abojukopo area of ldiyan.

"The victim, who was brutally attacked, was asked never to tell anyone that his attackers are Fulani, and he agreed to cooperate with them. Unfortunately, they were not convinced and decided to injure Kaptain Kaston, Benin Republic, with a cutlass.

"The farmer was later shot by one of the terrorists on the shoulder after inflicting injuries on his body."

The Police Public Relations Officer in Oyo State, Adewale Osifeso, could not be reached on his telephone to confirm the attack.

The incident comes few days after a 56-year-old farmer, Muftau Babarinde, was killed in Orita Merin, Konko village in Ibarapa North Local Government Area.

https://www.nairaland.com/6589170/igangan-boils-again-20-killed

That Fulani willing Tool and his patrons will not see this now and clamp down on their murderous foot soldiers, but wait till this people pick up arms to defend themselves and see what he will say; how they are non state actors and should not carry arms and all.
Watch what he will say when Sunday Igboho comes to help this people confront this murderers.
That is when they will start telling you that Igboho is bringing insecurity in South West. What Igboho is doing is not good for South West. Don't let Igboho turn South West to North East, yen yen yen.
Police and army will not see the so called bandits camp now despite the fact that Gumi frequently visits them. They will not see the Fulani camp now, but let Igboho retaliate for this people you will see how they will swiftly find Igboho's camp and hideout.

The army and police knows ESN camp, but 6 years down the line, they can't find Fulani herdsmen and bandits camp. We don't see them displaying killed fulani herdsmen or arrested bandits, but they can easily capture and parade ESN.
Someone like Ibime will say that it is because bandits and fulani herdsmen use guerrilla tactics that's the reason they have not seen their camp. He will forget that Gumi knows their camp and visits them regularly, and also deliver government packages to them that they call ransom for kidnap.

Ibime said that they are foreigners. Foreigners will carry arms from far away north down to South East and police and army will not see them to intercept.

All of them will have sense to think and reason logically when it comes to football. Their thinking faculty will work very when it comes to people's religious beliefs. But look at something with evidence all over the place, logical reasoning has died.

The loved ones of these people have died, but you will speak English on top of it because it did not happen to any of your loved ones.

God will judge you people. All these people supporting this evil and those keeping quiet while it continues, God will judge all of you.

If dem carry another person dead body e dey be like firewood.
I don't care na person wey e never happen to.

kendrick9:
If Pep had carried a team like in the caliber of Dortmund, porto or Monaco to the CL finals even without winning it, there would be at least some sort of credibility of him as a top manager..
But failing to take Bayern and Mancity, teams who had arguably the best squads in the competition to a combined one finals is a serious indictment on the so called 'best manager in the world'

In a knockout competition anyone can get a lucky run

Lyon made the CL semi, Roma made the CL semi, Monaco made the semi kindly remind us of their managers and where they are coaching currently. Maybe top clubs didn't remember to call them and offer them jobs

raumdeuter:


Who was missing from the team that got smashed 7-0 by Bayern? Who among these people were missing aside Pep?

Their coach was missing.
Due to illness

raumdeuter:


In a knockout competition anyone can get a lucky run

Lyon made the CL semi, Roma made the CL semi, Monaco made the semi kindly remind us of their managers and where they are coaching currently. Maybe top clubs didn't remember to call them and offer them jobs

Those coaches aren't in the conversation for being the 'best manager in the world'

kendrick9:
If Pep had carried a team like in the caliber of Dortmund, porto or Monaco to the CL finals even without winning it, there would be at least some sort of credibility of him as a top manager..
But failing to take Bayern and Mancity, teams who had arguably the best squads in the competition to a combined one finals is a serious indictment on the so called 'best manager in the world'

If Cristiano Ronaldo had carried a team in the calibre of then Tottenham, Valencia, Roma to the UCL finals even without winning it,there would be at least some sort of credibility in him as a top player

kendrick9:
Messi came second in balloon d'or age 20 before pep came.
He was always destined for greatness.
Pep was privileged to coach a peak Messi & not the other way around

if pep wasn't Barcelona manager and he didn't make them play the kind of football they played will messi be the messi that we know today?

That team is arguably built to serve him

Havertz10:
if pep wasn't Barcelona manager and he didn't make them play the kind of football they played will messi be the messi that we know today?

That team is arguably built to serve him

Maybe you aren't aware but a lot of people knew Messi was destined for the top.
Hell at 18 there were already claims he was gonna surpass Maradona..
Pep who?

kendrick9:
Those coaches aren't in the conversation for being the 'best manager in the world'

Why are they not? Is it because top club owners cannot google to find out their names? Its the overrated Pep that everyone goes after

Greatihex:


If dem carry another person dead body e dey be like firewood.
I don't care na person wey e never happen to.

I don't like getting involved in Nigerian politics, I don't even discuss it cause it's someone's game and you are only playing it

Word is, the crises that made sunday igboho famous wasn't started by herdsmen but yoruba youths and it was pinned on herdsmen to promote violence in that region



Since sunday became famous, there hasn't been peace in the south west, he has even promised to create a yoruba nation before December

Buhari is stupid, apc will allow sunday to constitute nuisance to disrupt Seyi makinde's government, so they can win oyo state back 2023

If kanu did the kind of things sunday has done, they would have sent to army to find him and neutralize him

Nigeria matter always looks like someone is playing games with people's lives

raumdeuter:


Why are they not? Is it because top club owners cannot google to find out their names? Its the overrated Pep that everyone goes after

If these coaches were privileged to start their careers coaching Messi, Xavi, Eto'o, Iniesta, Alves, Abidal, Yaya etc,
maybe things would have been different..
But then again not everyone is that lucky

kendrick9:

Their coach was missing.
Due to illness

False Vilanova was on the pitchside when they lost 7-0 to Bayern

kendrick9:
If these coaches were privileged to start their careers coaching Messi, Xavi, Eto'o, Iniesta, Alves, Abidal, Yaya etc,
maybe things would have been different..
But then again not everyone is that lucky

Vilanova coached those players, Valverde coached Barcelona, Setien coached Barcelona None of them was in demand like Pep is

Rijkaard had all those players and from Barcelona in addition to prime Rnaldinho, Deco yet he is coaching in Turkey and Saudi Arabia currently jobless while top clubs are chasing Pep

kendrick9:
Maybe you aren't aware but a lot of people knew Messi was destined for the top.
Hell at 18 there were already claims he was gonna surpass Maradona..
Pep who?

Messi before Pep 0 Balon dor
Messi with Pep 4 ballon dor in 4 yrs
Messi after Pep 2 Balon dors in 9yrs

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CPxhgfDlf6L/?utm_medium=copy_link
Meanwhile

Havertz10:
if pep wasn't Barcelona manager and he didn't make them play the kind of football they played will messi be the messi that we know today?

That team is arguably built to serve him

The thing is as easy as dodo. I watched in how man United fans mocked Barcelona in 2008 after their winning, and in 2009 prior to their meeting. Chelsea fans too mocked laporta for hiring a rookie instead of Mourinho whom most were emotionally attached
to. People didnt believe in pep Guardiola. He lost his first match or second match as Barcelona coach,I was insulted and called names for siding with him immediately I noticed he asked for my favourite player Andrea pirlo and Alex hleb. Real madrid that was beating Barca with arsenal reject bastituta before pep Guardiola's arrival were beaten blue black immediately pep came in. He set up the team to play in a manner at which people believed Barcelona games were acted and they want to give messi the glory . The same messi that was their when they had to play in the play offs to qualify for UCL, the same messi that played over 180mins against man United and couldn't score a single goal is the same one who suddenly made pep. Pls get a laptop and a TV and play the semifinals of 2008 ucl and 2009 ucl of the same Barcelona under different managers and notice the disparity in their game play and the abnormalities pep Guardiola corrected to get them were they were so that you can help me correct this their messi this,messi that .

raumdeuter:


Vilanova coached those players, Valverde coached Barcelona, Setien coached Barcelona None of them was in demand like Pep is

Rijkaard had all those players and from Barcelona in addition to prime Rnaldinho, Deco yet he is coaching in Turkey and Saudi Arabia currently jobless while top clubs are chasing Pep

Villanova did as well as Pep did in his last season, infact better cos he won the league against a peak Madrid side something pep failed to do in last season before he ran away.
Valverde & Setien shouldn't be in the Convo cos the teams they managed were a far cry from the Peak Barca team we knew

popizaino:


Yes, the Lyon and Monaco knocked him out but were never better than him on the field of play just as we were never better than Barcelona in 2012 but luck struck so that his conviction I meant there.

So they were better than him on the water of fight, the reason Man City didn't proceed to the next round.

raumdeuter:


Messi before Pep 0 Balon dor
Messi with Pep 4 ballon dor in 4 yrs
Messi after Pep 2 Balon dors in 9yrs

I told them to stop arguing with you

raumdeuter:


Messi before Pep 0 Balon dor
Messi with Pep 4 ballon dor in 4 yrs
Messi after Pep 2 Balon dors in 9yrs

Messi after Pep - 1 CL
Pep without Messi - Zero CL, one final after a billion spent

raumdeuter:


[s]Did Messi outscore Neymar in that season?
Since Neymar left
Roma 3 Barcelona 0
Liverpool 4 Barcelona 0
Bayern 8 Barcelona 2
Psg 4 Barcelona 1

Who knows what would have happened if Neymar was not there vs PSG in 2016[/s]

You were the one that stated that it was Neymar and Suarez that helped Messi. So, i was wondering if they didn't help by outscoring him, did they help Messi in washing his jerseys or carrying his boots?

raumdeuter:


In a knockout competition anyone can get a lucky run

Lyon made the CL semi, Roma made the CL semi, Monaco made the semi kindly remind us of their managers and where they are coaching currently. Maybe top clubs didn't remember to call them and offer them jobs

Is carabao cup not a knockout competition...how is it that pep can win it 4 straight times but spent 1bn just o lose his only Ucl final disgracefully...abi luck nor dey carabao cup...stop defending d bald fraud jor

kendrick9:
Villanova did as well as Pep did in his last season, infact better cos he won the league against a peak Madrid side something pep failed to do in last season before he ran away.
Valverde & Setien shouldn't be in the Convo cos the teams they managed were a far cry from the Peak Barca team we knew

Vilanova got battered 7-0 by Bayern
Pep beat Bayern 4-0 that our management decided they must hire him

Rijkaard had the same team plus Ronaldinho and top clubs are not jostling for his signature like they are doing for Pep

airmark:


You were the one that stated that it was Neymar and Suarez that helped Messi. So, i was wondering if they didn't help by outscoring him, did they help Messi in washing his jerseys or carrying his boots?

Messi did not outscore Neymar
Since Neymar left it has been on disgraceful result after the other

swiz123:


[s]Wasn't that the quarter final? Was kwonti banned from participating in it?

It is one thing to be aiming for the UCL every season and another to be aiming for yurokpa and keeping a reasonable job every year.

Does kwonti even know how UCL works? Cos I don't think he has gotten far enough to know about the peculiarities of the competition.[/s]

Leave Conte in Fraudiola's reckless spending of 1bn without winning the UCL without Messi.

The question is: When will Fraudiola win UCL without Messi?

CAPdan21:

Is carabao cup not a knockout competition...how is it that pep can win it 4 straight times but spent 1bn just o lose his only Ucl final disgracefully...abi luck nor dey carabao cup...stop defending d bald fraud jor

He was lucky in it. One of the finals he won via penalties because Kepa refused to leave the post

He has beaten Chelsea Man utd and other top spenders to win the Carabao cup as well. Why is money not working for those

raumdeuter:


[s]Messi did not outscore Neymar
Since Neymar left it has been on disgraceful result after the other[/s]

Since Neymar didn't outscore Messi, so your view of Neymar carrying Messi in UCL that season is DOA.

The question is: When will Fraudiola win UCL without Messi?

airmark:


So they were better than him on the water of fight, the reason Man City didn't proceed to the next round.

This is what happen when you're more concerned about the scoreline instead of taking note of what brought about the final results......its little wonder why you support conte the one without UCL semifinals appearance.