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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:04pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:


3 GA vs Barnsley in Carabao Cup
2 GA vs Morecambe in FA Cup

5 useless GA which is almost a third of his total

Congratulations.


Even the useful GA includes 2 against Krasnodar and Sevilla in 4-0 dead rubber goals. Let's not mention padding against Crystal Palace, Fulham and co.






champions league goal is bigger than all the others combined

Padding against crystal palace hahaha

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 9:04pm On Jun 10, 2021
If VAR were to be existed during Ferguson's time he wouldn't have won more than 8 epl trophy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:05pm On Jun 10, 2021
BlueMann:


16 boss.

10 goals, 6 assists. You are adding two penalties won. Unfortunately those aren't officially counted as assists.

Something tells me you already knew this though.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:05pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:


Hakimi is not my priority at that price. I heard Traore is available for like £40m. Signing Traore can keep the 3-4-3 or play wings in a 4-3-3 for more flexibility while Hakimi reduces the options.

When improving a team, you start with the weakest area first. That's Jorginho and a striker as far as I am concerned before putting £60m in a wingback. Between James, Azpi and Livramento, I am not too concerned about that position.

The last time we went shopping in order to keep a 3-4-3 formation going, we had our most disastrous transfer window ever. That was the year we signed Zappacosta and Emerson as wimgbacks to keep the 3-4-3 going. Both were useless in a conventional back 4 when Sarri tried to switch the formation the following year. We also added Morata, Donkeyoko and Drinkbleach that year.
I too thought Traore was the target.

In the long run, Hakimi plays full back as well, Traore may actually limit our options going forward, he plays RW and RWB like Moses then. Tuchel also wants Hudson to stay, even Hudson wants to stay, so we already have wingers to play at that right Ziyech, Odoi, Pulisic, Havertz. Can you trust Traore defensively, he was shaking at the new position beginning of season. Traore no too creative like that, Tuchel could improve him, but a younger Hakimi for £20m more?

If Tuchel or any manager wants to go back to a back four, we would have Chilwell, Hakimi, James, Azpi.

Rear Livramento is going on loan, Aston Villa are interested but Chelsea are not selling him.

As for Jorginho and needed a new midfielder, why you no consider all the many youth midfielders we get, or we wait and get Rice next season, for me Ampadu would do a good job at the DM role, if not Gilmour and there is also Gallanger who is a bit more forward than a deep sitting midfielder but this young lads are good.

Priority is striker, but the team needs to be more creative, if Ziyech can get back to form and first XI. Signing Hakimi fit be move to convince Haaland to join cheesy

I just feel Tuchel wants a right wide player with pace and creativity. As it is now as i was expecting Traore but we are getting Hakimi e no bad?!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:06pm On Jun 10, 2021
MorataFC:
This is another one.

Chelsea conceded only 4goals in the entire UCL campaign and against great teams like R.Madrid,A.Madrid, Sevilla, Porto, Man City.
Meanwhile the historians led by their King(Igwe) Ole Gunner Solskjaer conceded 12 goals against Villarreal in just one match, if we talk now they tell us how they won 10,000 trophies during the times of King Nebuchadnezzar and Adolf Hitler
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grin grin grin
As a proud Olesexual. I will win ManCity next season as my trophy, I promise you that. grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:06pm On Jun 10, 2021
MorataFC:
If VAR were to be exist in Ferguson's time he wouldn't have won more than 8 epl trophy.
according to ibime


Only Ronaldo won all those titles for united, Tevez, Rooney and barbatov were mannequins
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:09pm On Jun 10, 2021
Amoto94:
Havertz10 dead the argument that Chelsea teams of early to mid 2000s weren't dominant, they were dominant that teams like Barca and Bayern always pray to avoid meeting them in UCL. Also dont say UCL dont have quality teams back then because this is not true, in Valencia they have David Villa, Silva, Albeda, Villareal you will mention Marcos Senna, Riquelme, Madrid you have them Figo, Zidane Raul, Hierro, Salgado, in Barca you have Ronaldinho, Deco, Guily, Eto'o, Inter you have Zlatan, Adriano, Crespo, in Milan you have Inzaghi, Kaka, Pirlo, Shevchenko, Gattuso, Cafu, Maldini, in Bayern you have Ballack, Ze Roberto, Lucio, Kahn, in Juventus, you have Nedved, Trezeguet, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, Zambrotta, in Roma you have Totti, in Lyon you have Juninho, John Carew.


Una get time to dey reply that ignoramus.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:10pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:
James body type is more suited to a central position. He is too big to make recovery runs after running down the wing. He does not have speed endurance to get back cos his body is too big for that. He has very good technique in shielding and passing the ball and that is evidenced by his secondary position as a DM. RCB will suit him fine, however I don't think that's our first priority. My own is when Jorginho is being replaced and when are we buying a striker
lmao this thing ma, e dey haunt your mind grin e go be like deliverance if Sarri just sign am for Lazio cheesy
















Bad news, Chelsea dey plan extend him contract shocked cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 9:10pm On Jun 10, 2021
popizaino:


Maybe you didnt notice on time but he was shit during the later part of Lampard's reign. I remember I couldn't hold back my anger when we were trailing by 3 goals at the Emirates and at around 54th minutes or so james had hectares of space before him to attack but just decided to pass back when the closest arsenal player to him was miles away . cry cry I nearly wan die .

Almost everyone then lost form so I blamed Lampard for it. Now I realize, James is an eyesore most of the time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 9:14pm On Jun 10, 2021
Havertz10:
dominating the league when other teams were inferior and top 4 was a breeze for top teams

2005 72 goals

Top 4
Chelsea
United
Liverpool
Arsenal

2006 64 goals

Top 4
United
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal

2007 65goals

Top 4
United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool


2008 68 goals

United
Liverpool
Chelsea
arsenal



Period of so called dominance coincided with the most stagnant top 4 qualification ever, the same teams were comfortably qualifying for champions league every season, they met inferior teams easily beat them


got eliminated whenever they met top teams




True talk. The quality of EPL then was poor compared to now. But I can't deny that Chelsea had better players then.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:21pm On Jun 10, 2021
Havertz10:
.

Baba it's 16 G/A. They added two penalties won, and those aren't counted as official assists.
The penalties he won against Crystal Palace and Everton aren't official assists. Officially he had three PL assists, as opposed to five.

It was the same error we addressed here about Werner's G/A some time ago.

And I made a mistake in my earlier post - it's 9G/7A, not 10G/6A
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:28pm On Jun 10, 2021
airmark:



Una get time to dey reply that ignoramus.
in furtherance of your claim that i'm an ignoramus


airmark:


Many people actually dont know including me, until i ventured into the VOIP biz over 10yrs ago.

Don't waste your time on that dude.

Great wise one

Please Educate us ignoramus on mtn alternate sources of revenue that you encountered when you ventured into pay phone business at obalende


Cause looking at mtn financials, we can't find it

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:29pm On Jun 10, 2021
BlueMann:


Baba it's 16 G/A. They added two penalties won, and those aren't counted as official assists.
The penalties he won against Crystal Palace and Everton aren't official assists. Officially he had three PL assists, as opposed to five.

It was the same error we addressed here about Werner's G/A some time ago.

And I made a mistake in my earlier post - it's 9G/7A, not 10G/6A
all competitions, all competitions

Alllllllll competitions
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:34pm On Jun 10, 2021
swiz123:


True talk. The quality of EPL then was poor compared to now. But I can't deny that Chelsea had better players then.


The quality wasn't poor but the competition was stiffer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:39pm On Jun 10, 2021
Havertz10:
dominating the league when other teams were inferior and top 4 was a breeze for top teams

2005 72 goals

Top 4
Chelsea
United
Liverpool
Arsenal

2006 64 goals

Top 4
United
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal

2007 65goals

Top 4
United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool


2008 68 goals

United
Liverpool
Chelsea
arsenal



Period of so called dominance coincided with the most stagnant top 4 qualification ever, the same teams were comfortably qualifying for champions league every season, they met inferior teams easily beat them


got eliminated whenever they met top teams





Don't worry about the goals, worry about the points on the table. Any of those seasons points tally is infinitely better than the 60-70 points we've been posting recently. That team always finish around the 85 point mark
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:40pm On Jun 10, 2021
airmark:



Una get time to dey reply that ignoramus.


The guy is just showing his foolishness and JJC. Na Wikipedia analyst. How can someone talk with so much confidence of what he never witnessed. The mumus only recollection of that team is 2012. What a mugu.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:47pm On Jun 10, 2021
swiz123:


True talk. The quality of EPL then was poor compared to now. But I can't deny that Chelsea had better players then.

2005 to 2009, not one UCL final was played without an EPL team present.

2005 - Liverpool
2006 - Arsenal
2007 - Liverpool
2008 - Chelsea and Man Utd
2009 - Man UTD

If EPL was poor, the rest of European leagues must have been utter garbage.

Stop supporting that clown showing the foolishness of his youth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:49pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:



The guy is just showing his foolishness and JJC. Na Wikipedia analyst. How can someone talk with so much confidence of what he never witnessed. The mumus only recollection of that team is 2012. What a mugu.

I have decided not to waste my time on replying him again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:54pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:


2005 to 2009, not one UCL final was played without an EPL team present.

2005 - Liverpool
2006 - Arsenal
2007 - Liverpool
2008 - Chelsea and Man Utd
2009 - Man UTD

If EPL was poor, the rest of European leagues must have been utter garbage.

Stop supporting that clown showing the foolishness of his youth.

Those monikers are like fingers of a leprous hand. He will soon deploy another moniker to support his wack view.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:57pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:



Don't worry about the goals, worry about the points on the table. Any of those seasons points tally is infinitely better than the 60-70 points we've been posting recently. That team always finish around the 85 point mark
Added the goals to show the productive output of the team that according to were dominant, we can use the gap between 4th and 5th to measure the competitiveness of the league that season

it's a fair metric

2005
2 points

2006
8 points

2007
11 points

2008
9 points


Under Lampard 2019 was our worst season in my opinion and we scored 3 goals less than the 72 that won us the title 2005, what does that say about the players in that golden era
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 9:59pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:


2005 to 2009, not one UCL final was played without an EPL team present.

2005 - Liverpool
2006 - Arsenal
2007 - Liverpool
2008 - Chelsea and Man Utd
2009 - Man UTD

If EPL was poor, the rest of European leagues must have been utter garbage.

Stop supporting that clown showing the foolishness of his youth.
no city, no psg, no Juventus in present form, no Bayern

Stop pretending like they were a force when there was no competition
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 10:02pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:


Hakimi is not my priority at that price. I heard Traore is available for like £40m. Signing Traore can keep the 3-4-3 or play wings in a 4-3-3 for more flexibility while Hakimi reduces the options.

When improving a team, you start with the weakest area first. [/b]That's Jorginho and a [b]striker as far as I am concerned before putting £60m in a wingback. Between James, Azpi and Livramento, I am not too concerned about that position.

The last time we went shopping in order to keep a 3-4-3 formation going, we had our most disastrous transfer window ever. That was the year we signed Zappacosta and Emerson as wimgbacks to keep the 3-4-3 going. Both were useless in a conventional back 4 when Sarri tried to switch the formation the following year. We also added Morata, Donkeyoko and Drinkbleach that year.

My thoughts exactly. Wasting £60m on a right back, whereas that money could get a decent creative midfielder to improve our team.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 10:03pm On Jun 10, 2021
airmark:


Those monikers are like fingers of a leprous hand. He will soon deploy another moniker to support his wack view.
coward

You claimed to know how mtn makes money that it's not from the sales of recharge cards

Their financials say otherwise cheesy shameless twink

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:04pm On Jun 10, 2021
Havertz10:
all competitions, all competitions

Alllllllll competitions

Heii God embarassed

Okay...check his stats in Transfermarkt...they'll show you 9G/9A, which is what you're saying.

Break down those stats, and you'll see that he has five PL assists, plus three in the UCL and one in the FA Cup.

But check the PL's official site itself, and you'll see that Havertz has THREE assists. I'm trying to tell you that the other two assists are actually penalties won, and those aren't counted as official assists.

It's the same for Werner.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:06pm On Jun 10, 2021
Havertz10:
Added the goals to show the productive output of the team that according to were dominant, we can use the gap between 4th and 5th to measure the competitiveness of the league that season

it's a fair metric

2005
2 points

2006
8 points

2007
11 points

2008
9 points





Just because Chelsea became useless in this era to be finishing on 60 something points regularly allowing it to seem like there is competition for 4th place, don't get yourself confused. Teams like Leicester are only close because Chelsea became useless. They are no different from Spurs who make 60 something points in the 2000s and couldn't crack top four despite boasting the likes of Modric, Bale and Van Der Vaart. That's to show you EPL was no walkover then. EPL is worse now with top team like Man City making 97,98,99 points and still useless in Europe. If EPL was that good, they would not be struggling in Europe against Monaco, Lyon and co despite dominating EPL. EPL is a bunch of ninny teams now.

If the teams below top 4 in EPL are good now, why are Leicester, Everton, Spurs copping disgrace after disgrace in Europa League against their equivalent rivals in other European Leagues?

Mid to late 2000s were the most dominant era of English teams in Europe and my Chelsea was in the top two teams in England, end of story. This era Chelsea will be struggling with teams they are not supposed to be mentioned with on a normal day.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 10:08pm On Jun 10, 2021
BlueMann:


Heii God embarassed

Okay...check his stats in Transfermarkt...they'll show you 9G/9A, which is what you're saying.

Break down those stats, and you'll see that he has five PL assists, plus three in the UCL and one in the FA Cup.

But check the PL's official site itself, and you'll see that Havertz has THREE assists. I'm trying to tell you that the other two assists are actually penalties won, and those aren't counted as official assists.

It's the same for Werner.
I don't think you understand what in all competitions means cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:18pm On Jun 10, 2021
Havertz10:

Under Lampard 2019 was our worst season in my opinion and we scored 3 goals less than the 72 that won us the title 2005, what does that say about the players in that golden era

In 2005, we only conceded 13 goals and finished on 95 points. Fool like you only looks at goals scored. You are one of the gãy new breed of football fans who only see attack. That's why people like you are comfortable with likes of Jorginho manning your DM, whereas some of us are used to Makelele, Essien, Ballack who will not allow you to even get one chance in a match. In 2005, if Chelsea score one goal, you can sleep on bicycle knowing the game is won.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 10:19pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:



Just because Chelsea became useless in this era to be finishing on 60 something points regularly allowing it to seem like there is competition for 4th place, don't get yourself confused. Teams like Leicester are only close because Chelsea became useless. They are no different from Spurs who make 60 something points in the 2000s and couldn't crack top four despite boasting the likes of Modric, Bale and Van Der Vaart. That's to show you EPL was no walkover then. EPL is worse now with top team like Man City making 97,98,99 points and still useless in Europe. If EPL was that good, they would not be struggling in Europe against Monaco, Lyon and co despite dominating EPL. EPL is a bunch of ninny teams now.

If the teams below top 4 in EPL are good now, why are Leicester, Everton, Spurs copping disgrace after disgrace in Europa League against their equivalent rivals in other European Leagues?

Mid to late 2000s were the most dominant era of English teams in Europe and my Chelsea was in the top two teams in England, end of story. This era Chelsea will be struggling with teams they are not supposed to be mentioned with on a normal day.
period of dominance and they only made the final once

I have repeatedly stated that competition among champions league teams was poor then but you prefer to pretend and only see things your way, we were meeting small teams in R16 now you meet top teams, game is more competitive now

Also Epl teams are struggling now because the premier league is more difficult, you can't rest players for champions league games, teams are no longer afraid of big teams, I have tried using different metrics to explain this thing for you to see but you prefer to work with the assumption that Chelsea back then were dominant

players used to have a mystic feel about them, cafu, maldini, nesta, figo but these days, internet and TV has brought them closer to fans they no longer look like gods, that's the reason the past feels exotic, I can find fail compilations of even pele, no team or player is perfect rest with this your old men groundnut pyramid stories abeg

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 10:21pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:


In 2005, we only conceded 13 goals and finished on 95 points. Fool like you only looks at goals scored. You are one of the gãy new breed of football fans who only see attack. That's why people like you are comfortable with likes of Jorginho manning your DM, whereas some of us are used to Makelele, Essien, Ballack who will not allow you to even get one chance in a match. In 2005, if Chelsea score one goal, you can sleep on bicycle knowing the game is won.
grown ass man like you can't make a point without adding insults

Only sentimental people that are arguing based on how they feel not what is true behave like that, change your diapers and go to bed abeg, i'm done with you

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:28pm On Jun 10, 2021
Havertz10:
grown ass man like you can't make a point without adding insults

Only sentimental people that are arguing based on how they feel not what is true behave like that, change your diapers and go to bed abeg, i'm done with you

I will insult you anyhow I want for being an eediot. If you don't want insults, don't come here and type rubbish. From a fool who wanted Chelsea to lose UCL final so Mount will not win UCL, you deserve any insult that comes your way. It's better to shüt up if you did not witness an era than type rubbish. Someone who boasted of fücking his uncles wife is asking for respect in conversations.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iykmora(m): 10:36pm On Jun 10, 2021
cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 10:38pm On Jun 10, 2021
Ibime:


I will insult you anyhow I want for being an eediot. If you don't want insults, don't come here and type rubbish. From a fool who wanted Chelsea to lose UCL final so Mount will not win UCL, you deserve any insult that comes your way. It's better to shüt up if you did not witness an era than type rubbish. Someone who boasted of fücking his uncles wife is asking for respect in conversations.

Jude!
How u go knack your Parle wife with that bald head of yours? shocked

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