₦airaland Forum

Kagd10:
Is cow grazing constitutional? Must be ment! Imagine Cow grazing in this 21st century? Na ment? Usel..ess folks.

But it's constitutional for an Igboman to graze (sell his spare parts, okrika and expired drugs) anywhere in Nigeria?

Damn men.

I am waiting for the day iPoBians would talk without cursing.

Mangekyo:
Fulani bitch. Bring your cows to Delta state if you know your skull isn't empty. We will use you as a scapegoat

Look at this iPoB slave.

Sey Fulani get any wahala with Delta people?

MalcoImX:
Look at this iPoB slave.

Sey Fulani get any wahala with Delta people?

Dan me kake bata lokacin ka ne? Wa'anan fa ba mutanen da zaayi abu da fahimta dasu ba

freegaza:
Dan me kake bata lokacin ka ne? Wa'anan fa ba mutanen da zaayi abu da fahimta dasu ba

Hakane.

Thanks a lot.

MalcoImX:
Look at this iPoB slave.

Sey Fulani get any wahala with Delta people?

First, I'm not IPOB.
Second, your kinsmen threatened our governor that if he doesn't remove the ban on open grazing, that you folks are gonna attack us blah blah blah. You all should hurry up while we eagerly await you

Mangekyo:
First, I'm not IPOB.
Second, your kinsmen threatened our governor that if he doesn't remove the ban on open grazing, that you folks are gonna attack us blah blah blah. You all should hurry up while we eagerly await you

I said you're about to back iPoB and become their boy, not that you're iPoB.

Igbos and especially iPoBs are good at writing letters that'd bring disaffection between Hausa Fulani and other Nigerians,

As for Delta people, I don't think there's so much problem between them and northerners. It is always between Igbos and other Nigerians. Even that letter might have been written by Igbos to cause chasm between two good people.

I am sure by now you must have heard that Miyetti has disowned that letter, that it was not from them, but from wicked and evil people.

https://www.nairaland.com/6604126/miyetti-allah-denies-issuing-72-hour

We should be careful as there are evil people bent on achieving their agendas no matter what sufferings they might have caused.

MalcoImX:
I said you're about to back iPoB and become their boy, not that you're iPoB.

Igbos and especially iPoBs are good at writing letters that'd bring disaffection between Hausa Fulani and other Nigerians,

As for Delta people, I don't think there's so much problem between them and northerners. It is always between Igbos and other Nigerians. Even that letter might have been written by Igbos to cause chasm between two good people.

I am sure by now you must have heard that Miyetti has disowned that letter, that it was not from them, but from wicked and evil people.

https://www.nairaland.com/6604126/miyetti-allah-denies-issuing-72-hour

We should be careful as there are evil people bent on achieving their agendas no matter what sufferings they might have caused.

Well if the fulanis truly never wrote that, then things will remain normal. South south states, most especially Delta state is a very peaceful place to live in, we're a peaceful people. Hardly complain even when we suffer, we don't look for trouble, for we also do not run away from trouble.

Whoever threatens or take one soul from us be it IPOB or Fulani won't go unhurt, that's go sure.

Just last Sunday here, I saw two Fulani men grazing with their cows in my street (open grazing). People were going to and Fro and no one disturbed them, despite the ban on open grazing. I saw a cow that was trying to graze on a maize that was planted close by, and how one of the fulanis rushed control it. I was really pleased. Maybe all fulanis are bad after all. Next thing was seeing a threat to our governor being circulated on nairaland

Anyway, it's a good thing the fulanis have come out deny giving out that threat, if true.
Definitely some innocent fulanis would've been made to pay, had the threat been really true. We should do everything possible to make sure we all continue to live peacefully

Mangekyo:
Well if the fulanis truly never wrote that, then things will remain normal. South south states, most especially Delta state is a very peaceful place to live in, we're a peaceful people. Hardly complain even when we suffer, we don't look for trouble, for we also do not run away from trouble.

Whoever threatens or take one soul from us be it IPOB or Fulani won't go unhurt, that's go sure.

Just last Sunday here, I saw two Fulani men grazing with their cows in my street (open grazing). People were going to and Fro and no one disturbed them, despite the ban on open grazing. I saw a cow that was trying to graze on a maize that was planted close by, and how one of the fulanis rushed control it. I was really pleased. Maybe all fulanis are bad after all. Next thing was seeing a threat to our governor being circulated on nairaland

Anyway, it's a good thing the fulanis have come out deny giving out that threat, if true.
Definitely some innocent fulanis would've been made to pay, had the threat been really true. We should do everything possible to make sure we all continue to live peacefully

Peace bro.

Let me digress a little.

The problem with Nigeria has always been the Igbo question. I pity them. Eversince the 1966 coup and killing of leaders of other regions and sparing their own, nobody trusts them again.

This is Nigeria's and Igbos main DILEMMA.

Everybody can attain highest political leadership but them, because their is hidden fear of the Igbo eversince that incident. It's not a good place to be in when everybody distrusts you. If you can kill everybody but your own, I'll fear when you're more powerful than everybody else.

I pity their situation and sometimes I feel they should get their Biafra and do as they want. But it is a matter of concern when you want to force and blackmail others to achieve that aim.

It is a hard situation. Nobody wants a second civil war. They should find a way to resolve this situation because I agree it's not a good position for them. Let them get their Biafra, but if they think they can get it by beating and abusing everybody, it is natural for whomever they're attacking to attack back.

That I think is what's causing all the wahala.

MalcoImX:
But it's constitutional for an Igboman to graze (sell his spare parts, okrika and expired drugs) anywhere in Nigeria?

Damn men.

I am waiting for the day iPoBians would talk without cursing.

They ain't roaming with their spare parts and okirika while disturbing people's farm and killing lives in the process! You dey ment?

Kagd10:
They ain't roaming with their spare parts and okirika while disturbing people's farm and killing lives in the process! You dey ment?

Perceptions colored with prejudice are wrong and subhuman.

I may as well say that Igbos sell infected second hand clothes, fake spare parts and expired drugs in the North and should be stopped from opening any shops in that region.

If you look at it well, I am right to some extent but my thinking is flawed, and any law based on this is flawed too and prejudicial and generalized.

I am targeting certain people because of the way I think about them; soon every major tribe would start making laws against perceived enemies.

It doesn't make sense. The contention now is the constitutionality of such measures.

I think resolving this requires somebody taking the states who've passed such prohibitions to court to seek constitutional interpretations.

MalcoImX:
Constitutions are interpreted

You won't find specifically where beer selling or spare parts selling are mentioned specifically. But anything that's seen as inimical to the well-bei of society can be deliberated on by law

Therefore, if it seems reasonable that cattle rearing infringes on your rights, laws must be made prohibiting it.

The contention most have ragarding this law is that it is political and dangerous.

Does Naija constitution give a group right to trespass without owner’s consent?
Does 1977 Land Tenure Act make governors legal custodian of lands in their jurisdiction?
Why cant AGF sue governors??

MalcoImX:
Is there any cultural or religious prohibition on you for cows?

Is what you're putting as a comparison targeting a certain demographics?

Does the beer ban affect only Igbos or Hausas as well?

Banning cow grazing is discriminatory because it is targeted at the Fulani. It is xenophobic and unconstitutional.

Is there any law in our constitution that permit cow to graze on people's farms?
Is there any law that permit herdsmen to kill for sake of grazing rights?
Culturally open grazing is not allowed in Igboland.

MalcoImX:
.... to the extent that someone wrote that 'One day the Hausas will fight and reclaim their lands from the Fulani.'

Whatever that means.

A case of my hates, projections and complexes must be yours.

Honestly, it's gory and sickening.

Anyone who understands this!!

Fulani are like Lions , Southerners or Nigerians are like Buffaloes....

Fulani are using the same tactics they are controlling cows to lord themselves over Southern Nigeria !

DonroxyII:
Fulani are like Lions , Southerners or Nigerians are like Buffaloes....

Fulani are using the same tactics they are controlling cows to lord themselves over Southern Nigeria !

That's what I don't understand.

Are Fulanis your Ezes, gburugburus, LG councilen, chairmen, reps, senators, governor's, etc.?

I don't understand, how can a cow man be so big in Biafra?

MalcoImX:
That's what I don't understand.

Are Fulanis your Ezes, gburugburus, LG councilen, chairmen, reps, senators, governor's, etc.?

I don't understand, how can a cow man be so big in Biafra?

Because a cow man is religiously serious about grazing his cow anywhere in Nigeria and he is ready to kill for it ...

Unlike Nnamdi Kanu doing radio jingles and social media up and down ..

And

Sunday Igboho running from city to city doing YouTube videos ...

Fulani herdsmen display actions and its collective thus you can't pinpoint a man to their struggle... It's the whole race and they are very serious about conquering Southern Nigeria same way they did Northern Nigeria ...

Of course, they will rename Nigeria to Fulfulde Republic and They will have Emir of Nnewi , Emir of Onitsha ... etc

Except Southern Nigerians stop behaving like cows that Fulani will be using one stick to rear them ...

MalcoImX:
Perceptions colored with prejudice are wrong and subhuman.

I may as well say that Igbos sell infected second hand clothes, fake spare parts and expired drugs in the North and should be stopped from opening any shops in that region.

If you look at it well, I am right to some extent but my thinking is flawed, and any law based on this is flawed too and prejudicial and generalized.

I am targeting certain people because of the way I think about them; soon every major tribe would start making laws against perceived enemies.

It doesn't make sense. The contention now is the constitutionality of such measures.

I think resolving this requires somebody taking the states who've passed such prohibitions to court to seek constitutional interpretations.

See Dumb reasons. People buying ain't forced to buy the spare parts and okirika. Your herdsmen are killing lives out there and disturbing people's peace and this is what you got to say? You dey ment?

Kagd10:
See Dumb reasons. People buying ain't forced to buy the spare parts and okirika. Your herdsmen are killing lives out there and disturbing people's peace and this is what you got to say? You dey ment?

Fake spare parts, expired drugs and infected okrikas could as well kill.

My argument is, justice should seem to be served in whatever situations.

Making laws in the North or as Ghana has done (targeting Nigerian traders, especially Igbo) is wrong and goes against natural justice.

How did Ghana target Nigerian traders? The law says retail trading is reserved for Ghanaians. How is that targeting Nigerian traders? Are Nigerians the only foreigners in Ghana? Are you aware Nigeria has laws that exclude foreigners from some aspects of its socio-economic life? Natural justice, my azz

MalcoImX:
Fake spare parts, expired drugs and infected okrikas could as well kill.

My argument is, justice should seem to be served in whatever situations.

Making laws in the North or as Ghana has done (targeting Nigerian traders, especially Igbo) is wrong and goes against natural justice.

MalcoImX:
Fake spare parts, expired drugs and infected okrikas could as well kill.

My argument is, justice should seem to be served in whatever situations.

Making laws in the North or as Ghana has done (targeting Nigerian traders, especially Igbo) is wrong and goes against natural justice.

They're not forced to buy? Are you dumb or you can't comprehend simple statement? Na questions I ask?

Kagd10:
They're not forced to buy? Are you dumb or you can't comprehend simple statement? Na questions I ask?

I think you're the dumb one for supporting what's inappropriate and would backfire.

Wait until Buhari is out and when Igbos are targeted with discriminatory laws, don't cry.

PetroDolla2020:
How did Ghana target Nigerian traders? The law says retail trading is reserved for Ghanaians. How is that targeting Nigerian traders? Are Nigerians the only foreigners in Ghana? Are you aware Nigeria has laws that exclude foreigners from some aspects of its socio-economic life? Natural justice, my azz
No

You may not be aware of what's happening or refused to acknowledge it because it'd go against your argument.

When Ghana laid exorbitant fees and near impossible levies on Nigerian traders, what they're doing is tactically excluding Nigerian businessmen from operations. It is discriminatory.

Some (mostly Igbos) who paid the high levies to comply with the regulations weren't allowed to continue business as their shops remained closed.

You only become a man for calling a thing as it is. Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.

Nigerian traders in Ghana cried out and called on the FG to come to their aid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFZk9Q9tFgQ

https://punchng.com/video-we-paid-1m-levy-yet-our-shops-were-shut-nigerian-traders-in-ghana

MalcoImX:
But it's constitutional for an Igboman to graze (sell his spare parts, okrika and expired drugs) anywhere in Nigeria?

Damn men.

I am waiting for the day iPoBians would talk without cursing.

False equivalence. Selling expired drugs is illegal all over Nigeria. If the north bans the sale of fake drugs, every right thinking person will support it.

Also a ban on the sale of okrika can be justified for health and economic reasons. Although I am not sure such powers reside with state governments. But the federal government can ban the importation and selling of okrika, and they would be a justified.

Same with spare parts. the importation and sale of fake spare parts can be banned for economic reasons. This is because people are being scammed of their hard earned money.

Open grazing is another thing altogether. The nigerian constitution vests power over lands on the state governments. The federal government only has powers over lands in the federal capital territory and some coastal limits and water ways. A state government is the one that allocates state lands. If a governments says they don't want animals roaming their lands, whether cows, chickens, dogs or cats, it's within their jurisdiction.

If state northern governments place a ban on spare parts, what then happens to all the cars in the north when they need repairs. Do car owners travel to southern Nigeria just to buy brake pads?

Note that sale of cow and meat was not banned. It was cows and Herdsmen disturbing the peace all over southern Nigeria that necessitated the ban.

Now answer this question - WHY ALWAYS FULANI?
Fulani have had decade long problem in southern kaduna, Jos, Benue and now all over the south.
You guys needs to do some soul searching.

Even Major Okar wanted to excise you guys from Nigeria, but then he did not receive the support of other Nigerians.

MalcoImX:
I think you're the dumb one for supporting what's inappropriate and would backfire.

Wait until Buhari is out and when Igbos are targeted with discriminatory laws, don't cry.

This is funny. You're the one supporting the killer Fulani herdsmen who are roaming like lunatics and killing the people of Nigerians everywhere in your stupid bid to compare them to sellers of spare parts and okirika! Does that make sense? Make it make sense! Uselessssss people!

MalcoImX:
In what way is beer selling a cultural heritage for the Igbo?

And pig farming is in no way a problem in the North. It's only that the Muslims don't engage in it.

So correct your submission

As a Niger Delta man, gin has a cultural heritage in ceremonies and religious obligations.

wirinet:
False equivalence. Selling expired drugs is illegal all over Nigeria. If the north bans the sale of fake drugs, every right thinking person will support it.

Also a ban on the sale of okrika can be justified for health and economic reasons. Although I am not sure such powers reside with state governments. But the federal government can ban the importation and selling of okrika, and they would be a justified.

Same with spare parts. the importation and sale of fake spare parts can be banned for economic reasons. This is because people are being scammed of their hard earned money.

Open grazing is another thing altogether. The nigerian constitution vests power over lands on the state governments. The federal government only has powers over lands in the federal capital territory and some coastal limits and water ways. A state government is the one that allocates state lands. If a governments says they don't want animals roaming their lands, whether cows, chickens, dogs or cats, it's within their jurisdiction.

If state northern governments place a ban on spare parts, what then happens to all the cars in the north when they need repairs. Do car owners travel to southern Nigeria just to buy brake pads?

Note that sale of cow and meat was not banned. It was cows and Herdsmen disturbing the peace all over southern Nigeria that necessitated the ban.

Now answer this question - WHY ALWAYS FULANI?
Fulani have had decade long problem in southern kaduna, Jos, Benue and now all over the south.
You guys needs to do some soul searching.

Even Major Okar wanted to excise you guys from Nigeria, but then he did not receive the support of other Nigerians.

That's because his promulgations were evil, just as denial of grasses to cows were wickedness. It was malicious and nothing else.

MalcoImX:
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That's because his promulgations were evil, just as denial of grasses to cows were wickedness. It was malicious and nothing else.

You are being insincere. The problem people have with Fulani herdsmen is not grasses. It's trespassing on other people's lands and properties and destroying their crops and sometimes harvested foods. It's now taken a more dangerous dimension of killing farmers themselves and attacking their villages.

Cows don't have the rights to eat grasses on my land without my permission.

wirinet:
You are being insincere. The problem people have with Fulani herdsmen is not grasses. It's trespassing on other people's lands and properties and destroying their crops and sometimes harvested foods. It's now taken a more dangerous dimension of killing farmers themselves and attacking their villages.

Cows don't have the rights to eat grasses on my land without my permission.

That has always been a problem, but ain't there better ways to manage it than ban.

I bet with more Fulanis in the North, haven't they seen it as a feasible solution.

Regarding cows not having a right graze on your land without your permission, whose permission do you require to set up your spare parts business in Lagos or Kano?

MalcoImX:
That has always been a problem, but ain't there better ways to manage it than ban.

To us in the south a ban is the best way to stop the destruction of farmers livelihood and protection of their lives.

I bet with more Fulanis in the North, haven't they seen it as a feasible solution.

It not our business how Fulanis in the north feels. After all most southerners in the south were not happy with the alcohol ban in the north. A governor job is to secure the safety and wellbeing of his people who elected them into office.

Regarding cows not having a right graze on your land without your permission, whose permission do you require to set up your spare parts business in Lagos or Kano?

You are required by law to obtain permission before setting up spare parts shop or any other business in Lagos or Kano. If government is run properly and lazy governors don't depend solely on Niger Delta oil, they should have been taxing spare part businesses.

Besides spare parts business rent shops and confine themselves to those shops. They don't insist on displaying their wares in your compounds or homes, and then kill you for refusing. If the north bans street trading, they have my full support. But you cannot ban people from doing business in the shops they rent.

MalcoImX:
That has always been a problem, but ain't there better ways to manage it than ban.

I bet with more Fulanis in the North, haven't they seen it as a feasible solution.

Regarding cows not having a right graze on your land without your permission, whose permission do you require to set up your spare parts business in Lagos or Kano?

I've been following your arguments and I've realized you northerners are very dumb. No matter how educated you are. Just like malami and garbage shehu.

Igbos setting up shops in lagos and kano rent a place before setting up their shops.

They cant just go into malamis compound and starts selling spare parts without his permission. ditto herdsmen have no right to graze on my land without my permission.

Mind you, no one has banned grazing in the south. What we banned is open grazing. You done have the right to graze on people's farm all in the name of freedom of movement like mslami put it. I have a freedom of owning a property under the same constitution.

As a herdsman, buy your own land anywhere in Nigeria and graze your cattle on it. No one is against that. Is this too complex for you northern morons to understand or there's a hidden agenda?

Perkins2018:
I've been following your arguments and I've realized you northerners are very dumb. No matter how educated you are. Just like malami and garbage shehu.

As a herdsman, buy your own land anywhere in Nigeria and graze your cattle on it. No one is against that. Is this too complex for you northern morons to understand or there's a hidden agenda?

I think you're the dumbest here. Nowhere are you near Malami or Garba Shehu. They are more accomplished than you in whatever way.

I don't have to rent a shop in Lagos or Kano to transact business. I don't need any permit to traverse the whole of this country if the superior law if the land us obeyed.

The arguments you keep putting out that governors can do laws that contravenes fundamental rights is baseless. The Federal supercedes the states and can in certain situations take over the control of states.

The danger is, if you condone unjustifiable actions, certainly it will be meted out to you should you get an unruly authorities as obtained in most areas now.

MalcoImX:
I think you're the dumbest here. Nowhere are you near Malami or Garba Shehu. They are more accomplished than you in whatever way.

I don't have to rent a shop in Lagos or Kano to transact business. I don't need any permit to traverse the whole of this country if the superior law if the land us obeyed.

The arguments you keep putting out that governors can do laws that contravenes fundamental rights is baseless. The Federal supercedes the states and can in certain situations take over the control of states.

The danger is, if you condone unjustifiable actions, certainly it will be meted out to you should you get an unruly authorities as obtained in most areas now.

Both are products of quota system as can be seen in their empty brains. I don't fancy people who only got to be somebody in life through a lazy and fraudulent arrangement.

Take your wares and give to malamis compound in Abuja in the name of freedom of movement and see his reaction.

Nobody has banned grazing in the south, but you must make it private.


Federal laws supersedes state's. yet you destroy people's legitimate business in the name of religion.

Dumb headslammer!

Rabid Fear of The Fulanis? Why didn't Jonathan and IHEJIRIKA prevent what RIBADU is now saying.?