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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 2:56pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
I don’t care about song, it’s yaya we are talking about here. Vincente had to just continue with that Barca three in Spanish team but Alonso was still the main guy in that DM go check stats. Yaya toure won ucl with Barca if you don’t know, he was a beast in that season. If yaya continue with barca they would’ve still won those trophies, bousq didn’t change anything, it’s just the way pep like playing, his believe is that as far as you don’t dispossess the ball no need for tackle. Yaya was doing it all; defense, attack and dictating play, he is an all round midfielder.
No me I care about song, because you people believe every midfielder would have excelled so far they were playing with xavi and iniesta, Didn't xabi play under pep at bayern too? Why didn't he also get better results there too since he was the main guy in that spanish DM role?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:57pm On Jun 20, 2021
Ibime:


Busquets made his Barca debut in 2009.

Which one you dey sef

I have said that most of those Barca players are run on narrative. This one probably thinks Busquets follow for Euro 2008 and UCL 2009 win. Xavi done bless a lot of scrubs sha cheesy
Make him go google srna, a black guy that played dm for Spain.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:58pm On Jun 20, 2021
swiz123:


Ibime was convincing everyone who cared to listen that being dribbled like a mofo is an evidence of a players style of play. Going by his metric, Xabi is a born tackler whose game relies on his combative nature than intelligence on the ball.

Xabi is a second midfielder not a primary DM therefore I judge him different than a typical DM. Also that Real midfield was characterised by wide open vacant spaces with Ozil not contributing to the midfield.. remember I said being dribbled can also be a function of operating in too much space which encourages opposition to attempt more dribbles knowing they won't run into your teammate after knocking it past you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:00pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

I wrote displaced busquets as a starter? If Alonso played in the Spanish midfield, busquets must be there, while iniesta was pushed to the wings, And isn't that true, wasn't it not from the 2010 world cup he started functioning fully in that midfield, could he bench busquets in euros 2008 despite his valid performances for Liverpool?

Busquet was not in spain as at 2008,Marco senna was.By then Spanish national teams had this bias of considering players plying their trade in spain before players in foreign leagues.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:01pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

No me I care about song, because you people believe every midfielder would have excelled so far they were playing with xavi and iniesta, Didn't xabi play under pep at bayern too? Why didn't he also get better results there too since he was the main guy in that spanish DM role? And in Euro 2008 busquets was preferred ahead of Marcos Senna and xabi Alonso Had barcelona reached their level of massive domination under pep in 2008 or the next season?
Were you see bousq for 2008 wey him go displace srnna. You are hyping bousq too much.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 3:04pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Were you see bousq for 2008 wey him go displace srnna. You are hyping bousq too much.
Yeah it's not 2008 It's 2010 WC, I've corrected my huge error, Bro this one no be hype, na fact, no fraud won't be found out while playing alongside xavi and iniesta Many of you are just using Barca's recent humiliations in the UCL as your basis as leverage to downplay his technique
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:06pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Can you explain Barca other big margin defeat with bousq. Baba this question nor hold water.


I replied swiz on the issue of Busquet since. So tell us the reason for that scoreline without Sergio B.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:09pm On Jun 20, 2021
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:10pm On Jun 20, 2021
If Andres iniesta is reduced to a very good player only,then even the goat of player is not great but just also very good.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:11pm On Jun 20, 2021
Chelsea is so blessed to have both Mount and Havertz playing in the same team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 3:12pm On Jun 20, 2021
popizaino:



If na by combative DM Africans for dey do well in the world cup .
grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kantebets(m): 3:13pm On Jun 20, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Chelsea is so blessed to have both Mount and Havertz playing in the same team
yea but Harvertz is better and will be a future ballon d or contender
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:14pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Yeah it's not 2008 It's 2010 WC, I've corrected my huge error, Bro this one no be hype, na fact, no fraud won't be found out while playing alongside xavi and iniesta Many of you are just using Barca's recent humiliations in the UCL as your basis as leverage to downplay his technique
But you mentioned senna and he retired from national team after 2008 triumph.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:15pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Make him go google srna, a black guy that played dm for Spain.
It's senna not darijo srna
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:17pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Him yansh open after the departure of xavi and iniesta.

Exactly.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:18pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kantebets:
yea but Harvertz is better and will be a future ballon d or contender

So also will Mount, check Lampard's history. Anything is possible.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:18pm On Jun 20, 2021
iamoyindamola:

It's senna not darijo srna
Yeah Marco senna of Villarreal.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:20pm On Jun 20, 2021
cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:21pm On Jun 20, 2021
Jodera:
Those gifs you posted, like popi.zaino said doesn't mean anything. Even kante, people can show you gifs of how he was dribbled. Does that make him less of a player? No.

Anyways, that same period you people are criticizing busquet, check deeper that same 2014 and people are there who still praise him.
Heck, is it not still this thread some people said kante was playing nonsense and let him be sold? Should I now use that to belittle who kante really is?

Getting dribbled occasionally is different from being spineless as a DM, always getting bullied and being pants shielding the defence.

Busquets was/is a sluggish mofo and with departure of Xavi and Iniesta, he was exposed well.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 3:23pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
But you mentioned senna and he retired from national team after 2008 triumph.
I've corrected it and I know Senna retired after euros 2008, All I'm trying to tell you is that busquets is more than an ok player, no passenger wouldn't be found out in that Barcelona midfield under pep
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kantebets(m): 3:29pm On Jun 20, 2021
BlueAngel444:


So also will Mount, check Lampard's history. Anything is possible.
That German Nazi boy is naturally talented
Chelsea are very lucky to have him
If Chelsea delayed in 2020 by now either Bayern or Madrid would have swooped for him
Mount is good but he is not as naturally gifted as that German boy
That boy has natural reading of the game that can’t be taught in any academy
Watch his goal yesterday and see my point
It’s an innate ability u either have or don’t have
Mount is a top player but not as intelligent as Havertz

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:30pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Prime in terms of ball playing abilities or pace?

This is ridiculous. grin

Kilishihunter:

Prime in terms of ball playing abilities or pace? Which one? Cause the busquets I know is still a vital part of the Barca and Spanish team as of now, He's not a runner and jambody but he outwits opponents, I don't need to tell you that
Maybe if Danilo and carvalho had at least half of his ball intelligence, Portugal wouldn't have needed Renato to install sense in that midfield

Even some diehard Barca fans would look at this and shake their heads in disbelief. Obviously you must be trolling him. grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:33pm On Jun 20, 2021
popizaino:


Should I show you sensible Chelsea fans asking us to sell Drogba? Should I show you sensible Chelsea fans asking us to sell kante ?

Show me sensible Chelsea fans saying Kante is always the one causing Chelsea to concede goals.

tesppidd:

Leaving Busquets alone to shield the back 4 is one reason why we concede and concede and concede.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 3:33pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

I've corrected it and I know Senna retired after euros 2008, All I'm trying to tell you is that busquets is more than an ok player, no passenger wouldn't be found out in that Barcelona midfield under pep
Like said using players like bousq is just pep’s thing, it doesn’t mean that’s the standard for DM. Because pep don’t like his DM to be physical doesn’t mean it’s the standard, just as he will prefer Valdez to Buffon, cech and Cassilas because they don’t were trained to play from the back and that’s not their primary duty. The fact that bousq held that position is just Barca continuing in that structure since it brought success under pep and he is Spanish too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 3:37pm On Jun 20, 2021
airmark:


This is ridiculous. grin



Even some die-hard Barca fans would look at this and shake their heads in disbelief. Obviously you must be trolling him. grin grin grin
I'm a barca fan na , why do you think I'm carrying his matter like gala, I criticize him too just as some criticized kante sometime too but Niccur is not the cause of the bang dead defence or poor recruitment drive, I'm not saying he's the greatest midfielder in the world or best of all time, All I'm saying is he's not average, he just doesn't get the recognition he deserves cause nobody would rate him above Messi, xavi and iniesta , if there was a hall of fame for most underrated players in this game he'll be inducted for sure

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 4:00pm On Jun 20, 2021
Ibime:


Messi, Xavi and Dani Alves were the best in their positions in their era.

All the others were very good players though overrated into being the best in their position.

The only wack player was Victor Valdes. Busquets was wack (as a DM) but very good technically. As a CM, he would be very good. Iniesta was a very good player but could not compare to other AMs of his era.

There were some very underrated players in that team too who were solid as a rock and helped Barcelona when game went physical. I am talking Seydou Keita and Eric Abidal.

I agree with everything you said except the bold. Iniesta made Xavi a god in midfield.

Don't make me rubbish Xavi.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:08pm On Jun 20, 2021
Debroslink:


I agree with everything you said except the bold. Iniesta made Xavi a god in midfield.

Don't make me rubbish Xavi.

Nna na wa ooo

To some Busquet rubbish
To some iniesta overrated
To some xavi overrated

Who come dey hold that midfield during Spain and barca dominant years na?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 4:13pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Like said using players like bousq is just pep’s thing, it doesn’t mean that’s the standard for DM. Because pep don’t like his DM to be physical doesn’t mean it’s the standard, just as he will prefer Valdez to Buffon, cech and Cassilas because they don’t were trained to play from the back and that’s not their primary duty. The fact that bousq held that position is just Barca continuing in that structure since it brought success under pep and he is Spanish too.
If I bring out videos now, you guys would tell me even iheanacho has edited videos that make look him like world best, He's not your standard classic dm cause of his strength and pace, Yes But he compliments that with football intelligence I can't count the number of times he intercepted the ball at the base of the box 18 and recycled it to xavi and iniesta to create magic in the opposition half, do you know how many Attacking moves he has started but would go unnoticed because xavi dribbled a defender and assisted Messi or Villa? Do you know how press resistant busquets is? You can muscle him out when he's vying with the ball with you but once he gets it it's almost hard to get it back unless he releases the ball, also the number of his line breaking passes? Many times he has switched to the center back role especially when pique overlapped to attack a setpiece or cross, Just cause he rarely takes freekicks, don't often run up to hit headers like xabi Alonso or be a selfish player (how many goals do many DMs have sef?) Someone that pursued a legit strong DM like mascherano to the defence. Vicente Bosque and Enrique were not fools for playing him as the pivot, Once you talk of Barca of that era The first thing that comes to your mind is pep,messi , xavi and iniesta which is rightly so but Sergio Busquets is no goddamn slouch, If you can't operate on the level and IQ of xavi and iniesta in that midfield, then you'll surely be disgraced cause they are no dullards He's not the cause of Barca's current bad defence, sorry for my long shalaye

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by milann: 4:14pm On Jun 20, 2021
popizaino:


Busquet was not in spain as at 2008,Marco senna was.By then Spanish national teams had this bias of considering players plying their trade in spain before players in foreign leagues.
Pepe Reina, Fabregas, Dani Guiza, Reyes, Xabi Alonso all made the spanish squad despite playing in outside leagues
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:16pm On Jun 20, 2021
hensben:
Again not true, only pep and Sarri will do that. You saw how pep almost ruined Bayern in European football with his no tackle pattern.

Did you remember it was Xabi Alonso that was Peps DM at Bayern who was getting molested everytime
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SirLiquidGold: 4:17pm On Jun 20, 2021

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:17pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:

I'm a barca fan na , why do you think I'm carrying his matter like gala, I criticize him too just as some criticized kante sometime too but Niccur is not the cause of the bang dead defence or poor recruitment drive, I'm not saying he's the greatest midfielder in the world or best of all time, All I'm saying is he's not average, he just doesn't get the recognition he deserves cause nobody would rate him above Messi, xavi and iniesta , if there was a hall of fame for most underrated players in this game he'll be inducted for sure

He is not underrated anything. In fact he has been overrated by fans who failed to evaluate the defensive part of his game as a DM, just because Barca would always outscore opponents.

tesppidd:

Leaving Busquets alone to shield the back 4 is one reason why we concede and concede and concede.

2012 Busquets below.

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