Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dost42(m): 6:36pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: Emerson is okay to be our LB back up I'd prefer alonso,offers more g/a |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:37pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
raumdeuter:
This guy doesnt know anything
So you didnt know that Mascherano played CB for Barcelona while Busquets played DM I know but watching Barca game then you will see that mascherano was the one doing defensive midfield work since they play high line. Barca rarely loose the ball but when they do and caught on counter it is mascherano you will see doing the chasing. Bousq will be far up field behind xavi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:39pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
hensben: There is a reason mascherano and yaya were behind bousq. Immediately mascherano retired bousq became useless. Mascherano was the actual CDM for Barca in their glory days because they play high line football. Bousq is just there to recycle short and side way passes. Mascherano was which actual CDM, God 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:40pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
hensben: Was Jorg and bousq primary role? Any player can pass. But you people lambast them as if they do nothing, is it not escorts that they are popularly called here |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:45pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kilishihunter:
But you people lambast them as if they do nothing, is it not escorts that they are popularly called here They are called escort because they can not carry out their primary duty. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:48pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
hensben: When it comes to midfield matters No sensible football lover will rate bousq ahead of Alonso, when you nor Dey craze. Alonso of all player, bousq Dey craze. Abeg enough of this insult. Bousq know him level. The fact that pep over do things doesn’t give room for bousq to talk when yaya Dey yarn. Pull up 2010 World Cup stats to silence them. Alonso ran that midfield. 120 passes per game. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 6:50pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Nice one Italy. Y'all should keep sleeping in them |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 6:55pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
hensben: I know but watching Barca game then you will see that mascherano was the one doing defensive midfield work since they play high line. Barca rarely loose the ball but when they do and caught on counter it is mascherano you will see doing the chasing. Bousq will be far up field behind xavi. Which Barcelona didn't lose the ball? Because of MSN the possession stats were lower than Pep's version, Mascherano was more of your typical strong, aggressive, tackling dm but he was still pushed to the center back role by busquets 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 7:01pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Ibime:
Will you keep kwayet.
Here comes Iniesta still trying to live off Xavi even after death.
In Euro 2008, Xavi made all the assists and was named Player of the tournament. In that tournament, he set the template for how Spain and Barca will be successful going forward.
Xavi cut soap for everyone from Senna to Busquets to Fabregas to Iniesta. None of them could reprise the same thing without Xavi.
All of them were asked to replace Xavi. None could. Fabregas was given the opportunity to do so, he failed. They later dropped Iniesta to Xavi position to do the same thing, he couldn't. Barca had to rely on the most lethal front 3 of the last 20 years in MSN to win that last UCL.
When Xavi was making 100 passes per game, Iniesta was making 60. They will call it Xavi-Iniesta midfield. After Xavi left they asked Iniesta to do the same thing, he couldn't. Barca midfield was no longer dominant.
Instead of facing his fellow AMs who were scoring and assisting in the hundreds while Iniesta was dragging stats with John Terry, you want to leave his fellow AMs and come and steal Xavis glory.
Iniesta is the luckiest footballer that ever lived. 2010 World Cup, Xavi was making all the assist, Iniesta did nothing only to come and steal the headlines in the final with his only contribution.
2012 Euros the mofo didn't even drop a single assist or goal.
That's how in 2015 season the mofo went a full calendar year in the league without a goal or assist only to come and assist in the final and make it seem he's been contributing all season.
Xavi cut soap for all these boys from Euro 2008 where he set the template on how they would play. He controlled, he dictated, he dominated that midfield. None of them did. They were only periphery to what Xavi was doing. From 2008 till retirement, there was only one game Xavi played where Barca did not have the majority of possession. After Xavi bowed out, that midfield dominance turned to shït.
Here we are trying to give Xavi his flowers and the career leach Iniesta is still trying to steal those flowers from Xavis grave instead of talking about how his stats measure up to equivalent AMs of his era. We know how Xavis stats in CM measure up to all the CMs of his era.
He should go and face his fellow AMs and stop trying to live off Xavi until the grave. I knew you would write megedefegebe when Iniesta is being discussed. Xavi started playing in 1998, but you started rating him in 2008. Xavi was in the shadows of players like Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Deco for 10 years. Even in NT, Xavi was 24 at Euro 2004 but was always on the bench. Where was his 100 passes? At 26 during WC 2006, where was his 100 passes to help Spain clinch a title? But NO. You had to start from 2008 when Iniesta came into limelight. Xavi played for 17 years, but you could only pinpoint the era between the 2008 - 2012. I repeat where was Xavi before Iniesta came into limelight? Xavi @ 24 was a bench warmer for Spain. Iniesta at 24 was bossing Euro 2008 final. Iniesta made Xavi a god. Period. Let me remind you that Iniesta was MVP of Euro 2012. Oya start talking about 100 passes. 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 7:02pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Actman05: Mason Mount has created 40% of England’s Big Chances Created So Far At #EURO2020.
60% Of England’s Big Chances Have Been Created by Chelsea Players.
#Euro2020BluesWatch
� @TheChelseaFC Copied. "He's so useless, he doesn't create any chance." 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 7:02pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Who watched Italy's match? How good was Jorginho? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 7:04pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
This turkey useless Sha, With all their supposed young promise, Still couldn't get a single point |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 7:06pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
BlueMann: Good defensive play by Jorginho. Don't know if he was the one who floated that lively pass afterwards.
Why has Chiesa not been starting since? LMAO you wan bench Insigne?? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:10pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Debroslink:
I knew you would write megedefegebe when Iniesta is being discussed.
Xavi started playing in 1998, but you started rating him in 2008. Xavi was in the shadows of players like Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Deco for 10 years.
Even in NT, Xavi was 24 at Euro 2004 but was always on the bench. Where was his 100 passes? At 26 during WC 2006, where was his 100 passes to help Spain clinch a title? But NO. You had to start from 2008 when Iniesta came into limelight.
Xavi played for 17 years, but you could only pinpoint the era between the 2008 - 2012. I repeat where was Xavi before Iniesta came into limelight?
Xavi @ 24 was a bench warmer for Spain. Iniesta at 24 was bossing Euro 2008 final. Iniesta made Xavi a god. Period.
Let me remind you that Iniesta was MVP of Euro 2012. Oya start talking about 100 passes. See as you expose the guy poor knowledge 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:11pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
hensben: There is a reason mascherano and yaya were behind bousq. Immediately mascherano retired bousq became useless. Mascherano was the actual CDM for Barca in their glory days because they play high line football. Bousq is just there to recycle short and side way passes. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:11pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
raumdeuter:
This guy doesnt know anything
So you didnt know that Mascherano played CB for Barcelona while Busquets played DM |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:14pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Unlimited22:
LMAO you wan bench Insigne?? He was playing in the same position as Berardi rather than Insigne. Although Berardi himself has been very good. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:15pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
pamcode: Who watched Italy's match? How good was Jorginho? Good as usual. Perhaps 'not quick enough to provide cover' a couple of times but he was solid. Had a couple of vital defensive contributions, and could've grabbed an assist for Emerson after some nice play in the box. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:16pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Debroslink:
I knew you would write megedefegebe when Iniesta is being discussed.
Xavi started playing in 1998, but you started rating him in 2008. Xavi was in the shadows of players like Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Deco for 10 years.
Even in NT, Xavi was 24 at Euro 2004 but was always on the bench. Where was his 100 passes? At 26 during WC 2006, where was his 100 passes to help Spain clinch a title? But NO. You had to start from 2008 when Iniesta came into limelight.
Xavi played for 17 years, but you could only pinpoint the era between the 2008 - 2012. I repeat where was Xavi before Iniesta came into limelight?
Xavi @ 24 was a bench warmer for Spain. Iniesta at 24 was bossing Euro 2008 final. Iniesta made Xavi a God. Period.
Let me remind you that Iniesta was MVP of Euro 2012. Oya start talking about 100 passes. Sharrap dia. No one cares about Iniesta Euro 2012 player of the tournament with zero goals and zero assists all tournament. When Italy were being spanked by 4 goals, it was Xavi providing two of the assists. Keep kwayet about that disgraceful polling booth award. Xavi 2008 award is backed all through by assists and by midfield dominance. It does not matter if Xavi was only recognised in 2008. Kante only came to prominence at 25 and Zidane was only recognised by a big club at 24. What matters is how dominant you are when you take centre stage. From the moment Aragones made Xavi centre stage in 2008 and Barca copied, Iniestas life changed. Iniesta had been playing with Van Bommel and Deco since 2004 and not a single person put him higher than an Isco of those days. He was Isco till Xavis era of dominance turned him to Zidane. Before Xavi brought the dominance in 2008, Iniesta would never be mentioned with top midfielders. When nominations for WPOTY or Midfielder of the year go out, nobody even looked at Isco Iniesta. It was Ronaldinho, Lampard, Gerrard, Pirlo all the way. When Xavi arrived to cut soap for Iniesta in 2008 was when Iniestas life changed. Even for Spain, Xavi was the difference maker while Iniesta will be taking polling booth award with no quantifiable contribution on the pitch. Xavi: 7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in finals. 2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 xavi assists, 2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist. 2010 WC 2nd rounnd vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist Iniesta: Assist against Russia in 3-0 win and 1 World Cup final goal after being carried along all tournament with no contribution. Iniesta should pray to Xavis picture every night before going to sleep instead of trying to steal flowers from his grave. If I bring passes per game stat here that show that Xavi was making 100 passes per game while Iniesta was making 50-60 every season, you will see that the commentators usual refrain of the Xavi-Iniesta midfield was the greatest lie ever told to football watchers. There was only one name that should be attached to that midfield dominance and it was XAVI ALONE.That is even evidenced by Iniestas inability to continue that midfield dominance after Xavi bowed out. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:23pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Debroslink:
I knew you would write megedefegebe when Iniesta is being discussed.
Xavi started playing in 1998, but you started rating him in 2008. Xavi was in the shadows of players like Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Deco for 10 years.
Even in NT, Xavi was 24 at Euro 2004 but was always on the bench. Where was his 100 passes? At 26 during WC 2006, where was his 100 passes to help Spain clinch a title? But NO. You had to start from 2008 when Iniesta came into limelight.
Xavi played for 17 years, but you could only pinpoint the era between the 2008 - 2012. I repeat where was Xavi before Iniesta came into limelight?
Xavi @ 24 was a bench warmer for Spain. Iniesta at 24 was bossing Euro 2008 final. Iniesta made Xavi a god. Period.
Let me remind you that Iniesta was MVP of Euro 2012. Oya start talking about 100 passes. Don't fall for what he trying to do. Anybody that claims to know about midfield game will never never underrate iniesta to give credenceto xavi it impossible. Barelona also saw his performance at the euro but was even about to sell him to Bayern Munich as at then and mind you Bayern wasnt even commanding much respect in that period than liverpool but this same best xavi was about to be sold cheaply to the bavarians if not for the quick intervention of pep Guardiola. Inter Milan vs Barcelona semi finals exposes everything fallacy,myth about xavi.He needed iniesta more than iniesta needed him . 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:24pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kilishihunter: This turkey useless Sha, With all their supposed young promise, Still couldn't get a single point They are meant for the pot and not for Euros 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 7:28pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
popizaino:
They are meant for the pot and not for Euros Damn , Tis bad |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 7:30pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Ibime:
Sharrap dia. No one cares about Iniesta Euro 2012 player of the tournament with zero goals and zero assists all tournament. When Italy were being spanked by 4 goals, it was Xavi providing two of the assists. Keep kwayet about that disgraceful polling booth award.
Xavi 2008 award is backed all through by assists and by midfield dominance.
It does not matter if Xavi was only recognised in 2008. Kante only came to prominence at 25 and Zidane was only recognised by a big club at 24.
What matters is how dominant you are when you take centre stage. From the moment Aragones made Xavi centre stage in 2008 and Barca copied, Iniestas life changed.
Iniesta had been playing with Van Bommel and Deco since 2004 and not a single person put him higher than an Isco of those days. He was Isco till Xavis era of dominance turned him to Zidane.
Before Xavi brought the dominance in 2008, Iniesta would never be mentioned with top midfielders. When nominations for WPOTY or Midfielder of the year go out, nobody even looked at Isco Iniesta. It was Ronaldinho, Lampard, Gerrard, Pirlo all the way.
When Xavi arrived to cut soap for Iniesta in 2008 was when Iniestas life changed.
Even for Spain, Xavi was the difference maker while Iniesta will be taking polling booth award with no quantifiable contribution on the pitch.
Xavi:
7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in finals.
2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 xavi assists, 2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist. 2010 WC 2nd rounnd vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist
Iniesta:
Assist against Russia in 3-0 win and 1 World Cup final goal after being carried along all tournament with no contribution.
Iniesta should pray to Xavis picture every night before going to sleep instead of trying to steal flowers from his grave.
If I bring passes per game stat here that show that Xavi was making 100 passes per game while Iniesta was making 50-60 every season, you will see that the commentators usual refrain of the Xavi-Iniesta midfield was the greatest lie ever told to football watchers. There was only one name that should be attached to that midfield and it was XAVI ALONE. If you can't drop Xavi's stats from 1998 to 2007 (10 years), then it's a shame. Xavi was a bench warmer at Euro 2004 at age 24. Xavi at 26 at 2006 WC was a passenger. Iniesta at 24 was a MOTM in Euro 2008 final. Iniesta at 26 was Spain's hero at WC 2010 final Xavi was 2nd fiddle during Barca's back to back La liga and UCL win in 2005 and 2006. Ronaldinho, Eto, Deco et Al ran the show. But NO your 100 Xavi passes nonsense started after Iniesta became a star. You were probably the only sane person while the whole world was mad when Iniesta won this. Oya show us Xavi's own 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:33pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Dost42:
I'd prefer alonso,offers more g/a be like na why inter prefer Alonso to Emerson in the deal for Hakimi |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:36pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Ibime:
Sharrap dia. No one cares about Iniesta Euro 2012 player of the tournament with zero goals and zero assists all tournament. When Italy were being spanked by 4 goals, it was Xavi providing two of the assists. Keep kwayet about that disgraceful polling booth award.
Xavi 2008 award is backed all through by assists and by midfield dominance.
It does not matter if Xavi was only recognised in 2008. Kante only came to prominence at 25 and Zidane was only recognised by a big club at 24.
What matters is how dominant you are when you take centre stage. From the moment Aragones made Xavi centre stage in 2008 and Barca copied, Iniestas life changed.
Iniesta had been playing with Van Bommel and Deco since 2004 and not a single person put him higher than an Isco of those days. He was Isco till Xavis era of dominance turned him to Zidane.
Before Xavi brought the dominance in 2008, Iniesta would never be mentioned with top midfielders. When nominations for WPOTY or Midfielder of the year go out, nobody even looked at Isco Iniesta. It was Ronaldinho, Lampard, Gerrard, Pirlo all the way.
When Xavi arrived to cut soap for Iniesta in 2008 was when Iniestas life changed.
Even for Spain, Xavi was the difference maker while Iniesta will be taking polling booth award with no quantifiable contribution on the pitch.
Xavi:
7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in finals.
2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 xavi assists, 2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist. 2010 WC 2nd rounnd vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist
Iniesta:
Assist against Russia in 3-0 win and 1 World Cup final goal after being carried along all tournament with no contribution.
Iniesta should pray to Xavis picture every night before going to sleep instead of trying to steal flowers from his grave.
If I bring passes per game stat here that show that Xavi was making 100 passes per game while Iniesta was making 50-60 every season, you will see that the commentators usual refrain of the Xavi-Iniesta midfield was the greatest lie ever told to football watchers. There was only one name that should be attached to that midfield dominance and it was XAVI ALONE.
That is even evidenced by Iniestas inability to continue that midfield dominance after Xavi bowed out. Knew Ibime had a deep dark side, wonder who made him murder poor old ini |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:37pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
pamcode: Who watched Italy's match? How good was Jorginho? Exceptional, I pray that murderer does not see this post 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:38pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Debroslink:
Xavi was 2nd fiddle during Barca's back to back La liga and UCL win in 2005 and 2006. Ronaldinho, Eto, Deco et Al ran the show. But NO your 100 Xavi passes nonsense started after Iniesta became a star. When did Iniesta become a star? Is it not after 2008, when Xavi had already become a star and the best player in Euro 2008. Iniesta was never a star before Xavi, just an Isco. If you can name one individual award of note Iniesta won before 2008, I will send you $100 tomorrow. Iniesta is a leach of Xavis midfield dominance. When an AM cannot compete with his fellow AMs and is dragging productivity stats with defenders, he will leave his fellow AMs and be trying to steal shine from his teammates who made him what he is in football 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:38pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
But belloti Lol, airmark you really wanted us, Chelsea to spend 70m and buy belloti then 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:39pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
But even isco could not leech off the Modric and Kroos pair |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:41pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
popizaino:
Don't fall for what he trying to do. Anybody that claims to know about midfield game will never never underrate iniesta to give credenceto xavi it impossible. Barelona also saw his performance at the euro but was even about to sell him to Bayern Munich as at then and mind you Bayern wasnt even commanding much respect in that period than liverpool but this same best xavi was about to be sold cheaply to the bavarians if not for the quick intervention of pep Guardiola. Inter Milan vs Barcelona semi finals exposes everything fallacy,myth about xavi.He needed iniesta more than iniesta needed him . It is not about being sold cheaply. Case study Thiago and Toni Kroos |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 7:44pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Ibime:
When did Iniesta become a star? Is it not after 2008, when Xavi had already become a star and the best player in Euro 2008.
Iniesta was never a star before Xavi, just an Isco.
If you can name one individual award of note Iniesta won before 2008, I will send you $100 tomorrow.
Iniesta is a leach of Xavis midfield dominance.
When an AM cannot compete with his fellow AMs and is dragging productivity stats with defenders, he will leave his fellow AMs and be trying to steal shine from his teammates who made him what he is in football Show us Xavi's midfield dominance in 10 years (1998 - 2007) or hold your peace. Iniesta made Xavi EOD 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:47pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Debroslink:
I knew you would write megedefegebe when Iniesta is being discussed.
Xavi started playing in 1998, but you started rating him in 2008. Xavi was in the shadows of players like Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and Deco for 10 years.
Even in NT, Xavi was 24 at Euro 2004 but was always on the bench. Where was his 100 passes? At 26 during WC 2006, where was his 100 passes to help Spain clinch a title? But NO. You had to start from 2008 when Iniesta came into limelight.
Xavi played for 17 years, but you could only pinpoint the era between the 2008 - 2012. I repeat where was Xavi before Iniesta came into limelight?
Xavi @ 24 was a bench warmer for Spain. Iniesta at 24 was bossing Euro 2008 final. Iniesta made Xavi a god. Period.
Let me remind you that Iniesta was MVP of Euro 2012. Oya start talking about 100 passes. So before 2008, Xavi the 28year old and Iniesta the 24year old achieved nothing, were waste pipes till a miracle happened and suddenly these two middle aged men became the dynamic dual. No wonder ibrahimovic said if Lampard and Gerrard played in the same team, people would pay little attention to Xavi and iniesta. Both those two use pass to kill the morale of teams sha , they go use you play middle man for real 90min match. In an era of running and crossing. 2 Likes |