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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:33am On Jun 21, 2021
If you know you know .

Eunuch Iniesta always above even the greatest of scorers from the midfield grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:36am On Jun 21, 2021

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 12:41am On Jun 21, 2021
hensben:
watch this clip and see if he was playing like a CB or CDM. We all know how CB play. The guy was winning most of the ball outside his 18 yard box and giving long passes that was resulting to goals. Watch it and tell me if that’s not how proper CDM play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ma_pc6jMw0
90% of this video just shows mascherano winning balls and tackles as a CB in a defensive highline na, didn't you see pique alongside him most of the time? And the long passes he was throwing from defence in this same highline are done by even Pique too so how did he come out to do busquets job then? Does rudiger not throw passes from defence too?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:42am On Jun 21, 2021
Andres Lujan iniesta again as the greatest Spanish player of all time. It seems xavi Hernandez was the Leech afterall.


https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/5-greatest-spanish-players-time-xavi-iniesta/2

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:44am On Jun 21, 2021
Kilishihunter:

90% of this video just shows mascherano winning balls and tackles as a CB in a defensive highline na, didn't you see pique alongside him most of the time? And the long passes he was throwing from defence in this same highline are done by even Pique too so how did he come out to do busquets job then? Does rudiger not throw passes from defence too?

Pique too was playing DM alongside Mascherano
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:46am On Jun 21, 2021
No iniesta slander will sell here .

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:54am On Jun 21, 2021
Of course messi scored,however the night belongs to Andres iniesta grin

No be who score play ball pass.


https://www.soccerticketsonline.com/iniesta-equals-madrid-legend-butraguenos-unbeaten-streak-record/

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:29am On Jun 21, 2021
Bousquet kor biscuit ni
Now we see sisi like type of DM and call it clever.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:31am On Jun 21, 2021
Kilishihunter:

90% of this video just shows mascherano winning balls and tackles as a CB in a defensive highline na, didn't you see pique alongside him most of the time? And the long passes he was throwing from defence in this same highline are done by even Pique too so how did he come out to do busquets job then? Does rudiger not throw passes from defence too?
Is Rudiger playing high line.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vero4u: 1:32am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:
IMPORTANT UPDATE:

Unproductive Willian - 38 league goals in 8 years in EPL

Productive Iniesta - 35 league goals in 16 years in LaLiga.

Lord, send me a helper like you did for Iniesta so I can sit before Kings
Dont ever disrespect the GOAT of midfielders. He is bigger than Chelsea undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:45am On Jun 21, 2021
Vero4u:
Dont ever disrespect the GOAT of midfielders. He is bigger than Chelsea undecided

Yes indeed. The luckiest carryalong of all time showing off the fruits of other people's labour.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 1:45am On Jun 21, 2021
raumdeuter:


Pique too was playing DM alongside Mascherano
I just taya ni oooh, If he wants to slander busquets he should have done it well with valid takes not that joke of a video he put up
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 1:56am On Jun 21, 2021
hensben:
Is Rudiger playing high line.
Oga stop shifting posts,the way you put your narration would make one who didn't watch the video to believe he was doing both CB and DM jobs at the same time, whereas it's just him tackling and intercepting attackers who came at him in the defence, He threw his long passes in the video from defence which rudiger as well as most CBs do, I've told you he might not be your typical 'english' DM or CM like kante and fernandinho but he chased seydou keita, Yaya toure and mascherano from the defensive midfield and also reprised it in Spain so that Xavi and xabi operated higher up the pitch, Give that man respect abeg, Pep, Vincente del Bosque (Former real Madrid coach) and Enrique are no fools and dullards can't operate with xavi and iniesta

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 3:42am On Jun 21, 2021
Na wa o. Are you people serious?

What is all these I'm seeing about Iniesta and Xavi, and how Lampard and Terry take enter the matter? undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 4:50am On Jun 21, 2021
Inesta-Xavi midfielder was a real one and actually not a lie. The success of that midfield was due to their contributions, not one sided.

Both needed each other. They excelled because they played together. Xavi calms the midfield down with his passes and game reading skills, while Inesta refines the attacking settings with his skills, moves, ability to spin, control and moving the ball around. You can’t credit one and discredit one. Never!!

Xavi was very useless before Inesta and Inesta ended up useless after Xavi left. They were individually useless, unproductive, incompetent and ineffective in that midfield. None could operate alone.

Thanks to their stars Lampard and Gerard didn’t play club football in the same team.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 5:14am On Jun 21, 2021
We all saw Iniesta @ 22 win the 2006 UCL on the field without Xavi playing a single minute.

Ibime should show us the UCL Xavi won without Iniesta beside him in his 17 years stay in Barca.

Football isn't about 100 passes. It's about impact.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 5:30am On Jun 21, 2021
But that 35 goals in 16 years for Iniesta is fcking poor grin

Let's not pretend like it's okay.

If it was another player now, Una go don tear am like the Lions in the book of Daniel grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:10am On Jun 21, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Oga stop shifting posts,the way you put your narration would make one who didn't watch the video to believe he was doing both CB and DM jobs at the same time, whereas it's just him tackling and intercepting attackers who came at him in the defence, He threw his long passes in the video from defence which rudiger as well as most CBs do, I've told you he might not be your typical 'english' DM or CM like kante and fernandinho but he chased seydou keita, Yaya toure and mascherano from the defensive midfield and also reprised it in Spain so that Xavi and xabi operated higher up the pitch, Give that man respect abeg, Pep, Vincente del Bosque (Former real Madrid coach) and Enrique are no fools and dullards can't operate with xavi and iniesta
Mascherano that was intercepting opponent play outside his 18 yard box. Mascherano made high line football successful for Barca then. Since he left high line football became a disaster since bousq can not actually make runs to intercept. It takes someone that understand football devoid of sentiment to know what I am saying is true. I watched Barcelona then and saw this thing. The fact that bousq remain is just pep’s doing, it doesn’t mean he is better than the midfielders he pushed backward for them. Pep will play Valdez ahead of cech, Buffon or casillas due to ball playing goalkeeper, doesn’t make Valdez better than them. Pep played Martinez in CB too at Bayern and destroyed his career and momentum. Martinez was everything for Bayern while playing CDM but in order to defend bousq inefficient as CDM Raumdeuter said martinez was reckless

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:13am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:
We all saw Iniesta @ 22 win the 2006 UCL on the field without Xavi playing a single minute.

Ibime should show us the UCL Xavi won without Iniesta beside him in his 17 years stay in Barca.

Football isn't about 100 passes. It's about impact.
So you mean to tell me iniesta was influential to 2006 win. Both were good and needed each other. They complimented each other to become great.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 6:19am On Jun 21, 2021
hensben:
So you mean to tell me iniesta was influential to 2006 win. Both were good and needed each other. They complimented each other to become great.

It's a lie. It's Xavi who had less influence in 10 years before Iniesta became a 1st team player. Go watch that 2006 final very well. Arsenal packed the bus, but Iniesta came in to destroy that bus with a killer pass. Xavi didn't play a single minute.

Iniesta won the Treble with Rakitic beside him and Xavi playing far less minutes.

I ask again... Where is Xavi's UCL win without Iniesta beside him?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:22am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:


It's a lie. It's Xavi who had less influence in 10 years before Iniesta became a 1st team player. Go watch that 2006 final very well. Arsenal packed the bus, but Iniesta came in to destroy that bus with a killer pass. Xavi didn't play a single minute.

I ask again... Where is Xavi's UCL win without Iniesta beside him?
As at then iniesta was still a squad player like xavi. But then again, xavi didn’t peak on time for Barca, I think he peaked almost in his mid 20s.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 6:32am On Jun 21, 2021
hensben:
As at then iniesta was still a squad player like xavi. But then again, xavi didn’t peak on time for Barca, I think he peaked almost in his mid 20s.

Xavi had been playing 1st team football since Rivaldo's era. Una go dey yab Havertz and Mount, but we should praise Xavi for being a bench warmer for Spain at age 24.

Xavi that was almost offloaded to Bayern before Guardiola stopped the move. That's how surplus to requirement he was then.

Xavi should be eternally grateful to Iniesta.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:48am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:


Xavi had been playing 1st team football since Rivaldo's era. Una go dey yab Havertz and Mount, but we should praise Xavi for being a bench warmer for Spain at age 24.

Xavi that was almost offloaded to Bayern before Guardiola stopped the move. That's how surplus to requirement he was then.

Xavi should be eternally grateful to Iniesta.
I understand your point but they actually helped each other to become world class. Remember Xavi bossed 2008 nations cup for Spain without iniesta too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 6:51am On Jun 21, 2021
izzou:
But that 35 goals in 16 years for Iniesta is fcking poor grin

Let's not pretend like it's okay.

If it was another player now, Una go don tear am like the Lions in the book of Daniel grin


I had to check again, that’s like 2 goals every year. Funny enough I used to score with him on PES so much grin grin.
35 goals in 16years embarassed cry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:53am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:
We all saw Iniesta @ 22 win the 2006 UCL on the field without Xavi playing a single minute.

Ibime should show us the UCL Xavi won without Iniesta beside him in his 17 years stay in Barca.

Football isn't about 100 passes. It's about impact.

Keep kwayet about Iniesta fluky assist against a weak 10 man Arsenal team.

Yeah, we can see Iniestas impact in the goals and assists column. Impact of a carryalong Eunuch.

Any AM with his level of impact would have been sent on loan to second division in any other club.

Isco Sisqo level impacts

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:53am On Jun 21, 2021
Almajirihunter:



I had to check again, that’s like 2 goals every year. Funny enough I used to score with him on PES so much grin grin.
35 goals in 16years embarassed cry
It was really poor though. I think his memorable goals helped his popularity which gave him legendary status. Another example is Zidane, his France 1998 final match and his famous goal against leverkusen.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:00am On Jun 21, 2021
izzou:
But that 35 goals in 16 years for Iniesta is fcking poor grin

Let's not pretend like it's okay.

If it was another player now, Una go don tear am like the Lions in the book of Daniel grin
In the spirit of dragging.....

Zidane is a small boy compared to Bale.

This, I mean in all aspect you want to come from.

Creativity, Goals, number of trophies and assists.

Zidane will only beat him in individual awards.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:01am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:
Inesta-Xavi midfielder was a real one and actually not a lie. The success of that midfield was due to their contributions, not one sided.

Both needed each other. They excelled because they played together. Xavi calms the midfield down with his passes and game reading skills, while Inesta refines the attacking settings with his skills, moves, ability to spin, control and moving the ball around. You can’t credit one and discredit one. Never!!

Xavi was very useless before Inesta and Inesta ended up useless after Xavi left. They were individually useless, unproductive, incompetent and ineffective in that midfield. None could operate alone.

Thanks to their stars Lampard and Gerard didn’t play club football in the same team.

Xavi was never useless without Iniesta

Iniesta player left wing for Spain and Xavi ran that midfield with other men from Marcos Senna to Busquets to Alonso to Fabregas, Xavi never failed to run midfield for Spain. Iniesta was never part of the Spanish central midfield, he was a left winger for Spain.

But as you rightly observed, Iniesta was useless without Xavi after Xavi left the scene.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:05am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


Xavi was never useless without Iniesta

Iniesta player left wing for Spain and Xavi ran that midfield with other men from Marcos Senna to Busquets to Alonso to Fabregas, Xavi never failed to run midfield for Spain. Iniesta was never part of the Spanish central midfield, he was a left winger for Spain.

But as you rightly observed, Iniesta was useless without Xavi after Xavi left the scene.
How many year did it take Xavi to break into Barcelona’s first eleven without Inesta?

When did Inesta break into that first eleven?

And when did Xavi break in?

The answers of the aforementioned questions will help you understand the point that Inesta refined, influenced and impacted Xavi’s games.

Vice verse.

Individually, they are shiit!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:11am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

How many year did it take Xavi to break into Barcelona’s first eleven without Inesta?

When did Inesta break into that first eleven?

And when did Xavi break in?

The answers of the aforementioned questions will help you understand the point that Inesta refined, influenced and impacted Xavi’s games.

Vice verse.

Individually, they are shiit!!

It does not matter. What matters is what you do when you get there.

How long did it take Drogba and Kante to break into elite football?

Iniesta is not the one that helped Xavi break into first team. By the way it's not like Xavi has not been a useful first team player before then, just know he was competing against Deco for the same position who was also a don himself.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:12am On Jun 21, 2021
My people watch this highlight on Instagram then tell me who tried to stop Lampard for Ramirez goal, and check who was escorting Ramirez in CB position.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQWi38Bizof/?utm_medium=copy_link. Mascherano left his CB position to stop Lampard(as he always do in every match) and it was expected of Bousquet to cover his CB position but my man got no pace to do that than to escort Ramirez.

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