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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:13am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

How many year did it take Xavi to break into Barcelona’s first eleven without Inesta?

When did Inesta break into that first eleven?

And when did Xavi break in?

The answers of the aforementioned questions will help you understand the point that Inesta refined, influenced and impacted Xavi’s games.

Vice verse.

Individually, they are shiit!!

As much as I agree with you, the same standards used to drag others should be applied to Mazi Fraudniesta Iniesta.

Giroud played the World cup with no goal, and we never rest till today. Be reminded that the WC tournament has less games than the league

Iniesta went through a year without a goal or assist, but we should talk about Creativity, influence and class. grin

Nna, don't make a case for Iniesta abeg. Let him be dragged accordingly. cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:15am On Jun 21, 2021
Almajirihunter:



I had to check again, that’s like 2 goals every year. Funny enough I used to score with him on PES so much grin grin.
35 goals in 16years embarassed cry

2 goals a year?

grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:15am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

In the spirit of dragging.....

Zidane is a small boy compared to Bale.

This, I mean in all aspect you want to come from.

Creativity, Goals, number of trophies and assists.

Zidane will only beat him in individual awards.

Zidane can't be dragged by central midfielders of his era when it comes to productivity. Zidane played in 4-4-2 era and his stats stand up against all his peers in the same position in the same era.

Even from a different era where midfielders were not goalscorers, Zidane has 95 league goals while Iniesta has 35. That's nearly 3 to 1.

How can someone come from a different era where the expectations are different and flog you 3 to 1

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:16am On Jun 21, 2021
BlueAngel444:

Ogbeni everybody wanted VVD, Liverpool were lucky he choose them. Rest joor

Belotti was poor today, simple

Lordfalcao will slap you for this lie. grin

lordfalcao:


Van dijk doesn't worth 75M. We don't want van dijk
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:24am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:
IMPORTANT UPDATE:

Unproductive Willian - 38 league goals in 8 years in EPL

Productive Iniesta - 35 league goals in 16 years in LaLiga.

Lord, send me a helper like you did for Iniesta so I can sit before Kings

Iniesta in the mud. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:28am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


It does not matter. What matters is what you do when you get there.

How long did it take Drogba and Kante to break into elite football?

Iniesta is not the one that helped Xavi break into first team. By the way it's not like Xavi has not been a useful first team player before then, just know he was competing against Deco for the same position who was also a don himself.
I understand your point, but then... You must understand that whatever it is, Xavi achieved in Barcelona with Inesta, Inesta achieved all without Xavi. They needed each other, give credit to both.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:30am On Jun 21, 2021
izzou:


As much as I agree with you, the same standards used to drag others should be applied to Mazi Fraudniesta Iniesta.

Giroud played the World cup with no goal, and we never rest till today. Be reminded that the WC tournament has less games than the league

Iniesta went through a year without a goal or assist, but we should talk about Creativity, influence and class. grin

Nna, don't make a case for Iniesta abeg. Let him be dragged accordingly. cool
Inesta will be dragged once his fanboiz start dragging people's favorite player.

Nobody dragged Fraudvertz here until his fanboiz started dragging Mount. Most of the dragging here are done in defense.

If e sure for Inesta fanboiz, make them drag people’s favorite players that’s when you’ll know that no player is above being dragged in the mud. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 7:31am On Jun 21, 2021
izzou:




Iniesta went through a year without a goal or assist,


Coild you put your money where your mouth is?

Let's do a quick one $100
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:33am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


Zidane can't be dragged by central midfielders of his era when it comes to productivity. Zidane played in 4-4-2 era and his stats stand up against all his peers in the same position in the same era.

Even from a different era where midfielders were not goalscorers, Zidane has 95 league goals while Iniesta has 35. That's nearly 3 to 1.

How can someone come from a different era where the expectations are different and flog you 3 to 1
Inesta and Zidane aren’t mate in anyway.

Zidane is way above his level IMO.

I made that point to let Izzou know that statistically, any player can be dragged by any fanbase.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:34am On Jun 21, 2021
Ozil is better than Inesta.

If e sure you, come forward.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 7:36am On Jun 21, 2021
35 goals in 16 years? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Spanish iwobi

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 7:37am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:
Inesta-Xavi midfielder was a real one and actually not a lie. The success of that midfield was due to their contributions, not one sided.

Both needed each other. They excelled because they played together. Xavi calms the midfield down with his passes and game reading skills, while Inesta refines the attacking settings with his skills, moves, ability to spin, control and moving the ball around. You can’t credit one and discredit one. Never!!

Xavi was very useless before Inesta and Inesta ended up useless after Xavi left. They were individually useless, unproductive, incompetent and ineffective in that midfield. None could operate alone.

Thanks to their stars Lampard and Gerard didn’t play club football in the same team.

Iniesta still won La liga after Xavi left. Iniesta won UCL without Xavi beside him.

Someone should tell us the UCL Xavi won without Iniesta

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:46am On Jun 21, 2021
Iniesta is like Frenkie de Jong

Watch their games, they are orchestra conductors, they play deeper and are always moving, you can't use goals to judge them


Frankie de jong vs kai havertz will be interesting to watch cause they play in the same shadow, if you don't watch closely, you wouldn't understand their value

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:46am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:


Iniesta still won La liga after Xavi left. Iniesta won UCL without Xavi beside him.

Someone should tell us the UCL Xavi won without Iniesta


Inesta fanboiz don hide small, but you just wan drag am to the mud.

MSN won Ucl for Inesta.

The end of MSN form helped in exposing the fact that Inesta is individually useless.

Infact, Messi took over that Midfield immediately Xavi left. cheesy

Remember Peter Drury commentary over Inesta when Roma humiliated Barcelona in 2018?

In his voice... “Inesta don’t know where to look”

grin grin cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:50am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:


Coild you put your money where your mouth is?

Let's do a quick one $100

Why not send a mail to Bleacherreport and do a quick $100?

From March 2014 to March 2015, no goal no assist.

But I forgot to add ..There was so much creativity. grin


https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2403305-why-have-the-goals-and-assists-dried-up-for-barcelonas-andres-iniesta.amp.html

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 7:51am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:
Ozil is better than Inesta.

If e sure you, come forward.

grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 7:53am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:
Ozil is better than Inesta.

If e sure you, come forward.
iniesta is better
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 7:58am On Jun 21, 2021
Zidane the myth. A midfielder who was hyped as the best in the world, and yet who was consistently outperformed by midfielders in his own league. The failure at club level, Zidane never actually was the player he could be for France. He rarely ever did it for Juventus; he rarely ever did it for Real Madrid; in fact, both clubs did better without Zidane. It's only kids you will sell the myth about Zidane to, the most overrated player of all time alongside Pele.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 8:02am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

Inesta and Zidane aren’t mate in anyway.

Zidane is way above his level IMO.

I made that point to let know that statistically, any player can be dragged by any fanbase.

In what way is Zidane above his level? Bring those points out let me break them.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:05am On Jun 21, 2021
Havertz10:
iniesta is better
How?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:06am On Jun 21, 2021
izzou:


Why not send a mail to Bleacherreport and do a quick $100?

From March 2014 to March 2015, no goal no assist.

But I forgot to add ..There was so much creativity. grin


https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2403305-why-have-the-goals-and-assists-dried-up-for-barcelonas-andres-iniesta.amp.html

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:07am On Jun 21, 2021
Godx:

In what way is Zidane above his level? Bring those points out let me break them.
All round.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:07am On Jun 21, 2021
hensben:
Bousquet kor biscuit ni
Now we see sisi like type of DM and call it clever.

''Busquets at his prime'' gang in the mud.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:09am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:


Inesta fanboiz don hide small, but you just wan drag am to the mud.

MSN won Ucl for Inesta.

The end of MSN form helped in exposing the fact that Inesta is individually useless.

Infact, Messi took over that Midfield immediately Xavi left. cheesy

Remember Peter Drury commentary over Inesta when Roma humiliated Barcelona in 2018?

In his voice... “Inesta don’t know where do look”

grin grin cheesy

I am sorry; my memory is a little foggy. Was it in the same 2015 that Iniesta dribbled the whole PSG team to lay a delicious through ball for Ney?

For some whose Idol is hustler Mount, you should stay off this argument

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:12am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:


I am sorry; my memory is a little foggy. Was it in the same 2015 that Iniesta dribbled the whole PSG team to lay a delicious through ball for Ney?

For some whose Idol is hustler Mount, you should stay off this argument
Shut up! Fencist.

Mount scored twice in Chelsea’s Ucl win, how many goals did Inesta score in 2015 they won it?

A fvxkin overrated shiit!! cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 8:13am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

All round.

All round what? What is all round

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:15am On Jun 21, 2021
Havertz10:
Iniesta is like Frenkie de Jong

Watch their games, they are orchestra conductors, they play deeper and are always moving, you can't use goals to judge them


Frankie de jong vs kai havertz will be interesting to watch cause they play in the same shadow, if you don't watch closely, you wouldn't understand their value

Frankie De Jong plays at the base of midfield. Iniesta plays in the attacking phase. When your contribution is disgraceful, you will start to deny your position like Peter and start dragging with deep lying midfielders.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:16am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

How?
iniesta and xavi fed of eachother, busquet excelled being the link for their movements but he wasn't a strong defensive midfielder, his job was to recycle possession

Individually iniesta and xavi were good, ozil had his moments and enjoyed feeding the appetite of ronaldo, he was a good player but one on one iniesta was better

Pele was good but he will never be called a maestro like johan cruyff
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:19am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:


Iniesta still won La liga after Xavi left. Iniesta won UCL without Xavi beside him.

Someone should tell us the UCL Xavi won without Iniesta


Yeah, we know how Iniesta won after Xavi left, going a full calendar year with zero goal and zero assist.

We should credit the Spanish Kovacic for MSN work

You people should fear God.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:21am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


Frankie De Jong plays at the base of midfield. Iniesta plays in the attacking phase. When your contribution is disgraceful, you will start to deny your position like Peter and start dragging with deep lying midfielders.
positional play can be fluid, iniesta usually dropped deeper to receive the ball because he had better ball retention than busquet, most people were fixated on messi but some of us looked at Barca's midfield

His position was fluid, he wasn't playing for goals, he was playing to maintain domination over the opposition

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:21am On Jun 21, 2021
Godx:

All round what? What is all round
All the things you know that makes up a good midfielder.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:22am On Jun 21, 2021
Havertz10:

Individually iniesta and xavi were good, ozil had his moments and enjoyed feeding the appetite of ronaldo

I always wonder how Ozil will feed Ronaldos appetite yet Messi was scoring 90 goals in a calendar year and Iniesta could not feed his appetite.

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