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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:23am On Jun 21, 2021
Havertz10:
iniesta and xavi fed of eachother, busquet excelled being the link for their movements but he wasn't a strong defensive midfielder, his job was to recycle possession

Individually iniesta and xavi were good, ozil had his moments and enjoyed feeding the appetite of ronaldo, he was a good player but one on one iniesta was better

Pele was good but he will never be called a maestro like johan cruyff
Inesta and Xavi fed each other, I initially gave credit to them on that.

One on one means you’ll compare Inesta and Ozil statistically. Do you want to know that will happen if that happens? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 8:23am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

All the things you know that makes up a good midfielder.
List them out then
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:25am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


I always wonder how Ozil will feed Ronaldos appetite yet Messi was scoring 90 goals in a calendar year and Iniesta could not feed his appetite.
Ozil vs Inesta in La Liga

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:25am On Jun 21, 2021
Godx:

List them out then
Good ball handling, reflex and service. angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:25am On Jun 21, 2021
Havertz10:
positional play can be fluid, iniesta usually dropped deeper to receive the ball because he had better ball retention than busquet, most people were fixated on messi but some of us looked at Barca's midfield

His position was fluid, he wasn't playing for goals, he was playing to maintain domination over the opposition

Please give us his passes per game stats, let's expose this lie.

Iniesta was never central to the possession game. His passes per game was around the 60 passes per game mark. Xavi was the one controlling the midfield and dropping the 100 passes per game and still handsomely outscored and outassisted him from a deep position.

Iniesta is the greatest lie in modern football, and the luckiest carryalong in the history of the sport.

He only hides under midfield possession work that Xavi did alone to absolve his pitiful attacking productivity which is on par with Kovacic and Iwobi. He was an activity former who contributed nothing while his teammates put him in positions to claim glory

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:27am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


I always wonder how Ozil will feed Ronaldos appetite yet Messi was scoring 90 goals in a calendar year and Iniesta could not feed his appetite.
only Suarez has provided more assist for messi than iniesta

If we track the back and check assist self that other players gave to messi, ineista hand will still be there coordinating play

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 8:28am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

Good ball handling, reflex and service. angry
K
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:29am On Jun 21, 2021
Arguements here are mostly funny. I see it as cruise though. If I front Fabregas as a great player due to his goals and assists, our own special pundit will drop a thousand reasons why Fab is a nonsense player. Now Iniesta who is a very influential player on the pitch who posses almost no weakness to his team is dragged for not being as productive as his peers. A player who broke press with his dribbling is maligned for not scoring or giving the final pass.

Now this same pundit doesn't let us rest on how Fab became a bench warmer at 27 but conviniently excused Xavi for cheerleading for 10 years of his early career. Fab at 24 had at least 150 g/a to his name but this doesn't concern him.

When arguements are laced with sentiments, double standard becomes inevitable.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:29am On Jun 21, 2021
Ebukacute:
35 goals in 16 years? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Spanish iwobi

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:29am On Jun 21, 2021
Havertz10:
only Suarez has provided more assist for messi than iniesta

If we track the back and check assist self that other players gave to messi, ineista hand will still be there coordinating play

Messi scores as much as a whole forward line. Iniesta played 13 years with Messi. 44 divided by 13 is what?

Look at Iniesta an attacking midfielder vs Xavi a deeplying midfielder and draw your own conclusion.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:33am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:


Coild you put your money where your mouth is?

Let's do a quick one $100

Are you sure you have $100, shall we?

Iniesta went 365 days without a goal and an assist. It could never be Lampard. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:33am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

Ozil vs Inesta in La Liga
But you a Big fool o cheesy cheesy. Comparing a centre midfielder Iniesta to an attacking midfielder ozil. AgberoFc o cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:34am On Jun 21, 2021
Trevor012:

But you a Big fool o cheesy cheesy. Comparing a centre midfielder Iniesta to an attacking midfielder ozil. AgberoFc o cheesy
Call your dad that.

If atall maggots will allow you see some part of him again. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:35am On Jun 21, 2021
Mathematicians here should study this image and tell us who has a better g/a ratio

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:36am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

Call your dad that.

If atall maggots will allow you see some part of him again. cheesy
Imagine this big dumb dumb using stats to compare an attacking Midfielder to a centre midfielder. Give your head a wobble mate cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:37am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:
Now Iniesta who is a very influential player on the pitch who posses almost no weakness to his team is dragged for not being as productive as his peers. A player who broke press with his dribbling is maligned for not scoring or giving the final pass..

This sounds like Kovacic or Alexander Hleb

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:38am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:
Arguements here are mostly funny. I see it as cruise though. If I front Fabregas as a great player due to his goals and assists, our own special pundit will drop a thousand reasons why Fab is a nonsense player. Now Iniesta who is a very influential player on the pitch who posses almost no weakness to his team is dragged for not being as productive as his peers. A player who broke press with his dribbling is maligned for not scoring or giving the final pass.

Now this same pundit doesn't let us rest on how Fab became a bench warmer at 27 but conviniently excused Xavi for cheerleading for 10 years of his early career. Fab at 24 had at least 150 g/a to his name but this doesn't concern him.

When arguements are laced with sentiments, double standard becomes inevitable.
This is why I advise people to watch football and bank on eye test to rate players because statistics is the most irrational way to do so.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:39am On Jun 21, 2021
Ozil is underrated.

Man provided 30+ assists two consecutive seasons.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:39am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:
Mathematicians here should study this image and tell us who has a better g/a ratio
the matter tire me, it's difficult separating the effect each had on the team but on their day

They were the best in the world combined, who would excel more alone is difficult too to gauge, iniesta won more trophies than xavi but you can't use only that to say that he was better
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:40am On Jun 21, 2021
airmark:


''Busquets at his prime'' gang in the mud.
See this highlight and watch Bousquet escort service https://www.instagram.com/p/CQWi38Bizof/?utm_medium=copy_link.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:40am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

Shut up! Fencist.

Mount scored twice in Chelsea’s Ucl win, how many goals did Inesta score in 2015 they won it?

A fvxkin overrated shiit!! cheesy


Chai!! grin... I know you still think Mount is playing mildfield since TT. Let's compare him to Ney who he plays the same position with. Shall we?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 8:42am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:
Mathematicians here should study this image and tell us who has a better g/a ratio

That's the tin.. One is a deep lying playmaker while the other is supposed to be an attacking midfielder!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:43am On Jun 21, 2021
I think Xavi influenced that Barca team more than iniesta but as a player iniesta was better. However, iniesta had memorable moment that drew more attention to him in football world.
Source: eye test.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:43am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:
Mathematicians here should study this image and tell us who has a better g/a ratio

Iniesta - 270/867 = 0.31

Xavi - 357/988 = 0.36

Nigga I can't divide.

Let's not forget one is the deeplying midfielder (Xavi) who controls the possession game with 100 passes while the other is the advanced midfielder (Iniesta) who contributes little to the possession game with 60 passes per game.

I bake cake for you, you are supposed to put the icing on the cake, yet I still put more icing on the cake than you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 8:45am On Jun 21, 2021
Havertz10:
iniesta and xavi fed of eachother, busquet excelled being the link for their movements but he wasn't a strong defensive midfielder, his job was to recycle possession

Individually iniesta and xavi were good, ozil had his moments and enjoyed feeding the appetite of ronaldo, he was a good player but one on one iniesta was better

Pele was good but he will never be called a maestro like johan cruyff

How can u mention "individually", Iniesta and Ozil in thesame sentence??

Individually, how many attacking midfielders were better than Ozil in his prime? cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 8:45am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


This sounds like Kovacic or Alexander Hleb

Kovacic that gives sideways pass after breaking press grin grin.... Is Iniesta lacking in the final pass department? You do eye test when it is convenient for you and use stats when it's convenient for you as well.

Eye test for Fab and stats for Iniesta

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 8:45am On Jun 21, 2021
Ibime:


Please give us his passes per game stats, let's expose this lie.

Iniesta was never central to the possession game. His passes per game was around the 60 passes per game mark. Xavi was the one controlling the midfield and dropping the 100 passes per game and still handsomely outscored and outassisted him from a deep position.

Iniesta is the greatest lie in modern football, and the luckiest carryalong in the history of the sport.

He only hides under midfield possession work that Xavi did alone to absolve his pitiful attacking productivity which is on par with Kovacic and Iwobi. He was an activity former who contributed nothing while his teammates put him in positions to claim glory
when Fabregas was asked to pick one between xavi and iniesta, he described the choice as being similar to picking one between his mum or dad

They both needed each other to excel, they made barca great, messi gets all the praise but his supply chain came from their factory
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 8:46am On Jun 21, 2021
donstan18:

Ozil vs Inesta in La Liga
Ozil is underrated sha.


Those are big consecutive numbers.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:46am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:


Chai!! grin... I know you still think Mount is playing mildfield since TT. Let's compare him to Ney who he plays the same position with. Shall we?
I like the fact that you placed Mount and Neymar together for the comparison.

Generational talent grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 8:47am On Jun 21, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
Ozil is underrated sha.


Those are big consecutive numbers.
25+ assists for 4 straight seasons.

Omo eh! Playmakers no too dey again now o!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:47am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:


Kovacic that gives sideways pass after breaking press grin grin.... Is Iniesta lacking in the final pass department? .

What kind of pass is Iniesta giving after breaking press?

He must be passing to LeBron James.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 8:48am On Jun 21, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
Ozil is underrated sha.


Those are big consecutive numbers.

I swear!! Mesut Ozil is one very very underated player..

Leaving Madrid and moving to Arsenal in his prime did him no favours at all.

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