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Trevor012:
We are saying the same thing . You dragged attacking midfielders with goals and assists by using defensive contribution even tho you stated a different thing below

hensben:
When it comes to midfield matters No sensible football lover will rate bousq ahead of Alonso, when you nor Dey craze. Alonso of all player, bousq Dey craze. Abeg enough of this insult. Bousq know him level. The fact that pep over do things doesn’t give room for bousq to talk when yaya Dey yarn.

BlueMann:
He was playing in the same position as Berardi rather than Insigne. Although Berardi himself has been very good.

Trevor012:
What you are saying is not even related to anything

Trevor012:
Now you are turning amala . That's not what you said below on Ozil primary role . You judge attacking players by goals and assist The attacking Midfielder who excelled in their primary roles like you typed below still gets dragged by you so even if Iniesta had 5million assist and goals the possibility of you using another agenda to drag him is 99%



You don catch am.. . He can't turn this amala.

Havertz10:
system matters, nobody is denying that

But which system excels? Barca have shown the world that positional awareness will always dominate brute force, players that play better in the superior system are better

That's how we should look at it

Havertz10:
system matters, nobody is denying that

But which system excels? Barca have shown the world that positional awareness will always dominate brute force, players that play better in the superior system are better

That's how we should look at it

monerozi5590:
You are just hyping Alonso. Busquets is calm and better on the ball than Alonso. Alonso fumble under pressure. He is not press resistant. I am saying this as a Madird fan who watched Alonso weekdays and weekends during his playing days.


Even in the Spanish National Team, Alonso was always substituted but Busquets is untouchable. Alonso is good at long range passes through.

donstan18:
It worked for Barcelona then, can’t work for them now because of the modern days football.

That’s my point.

Pep tried it in Bayern and flopped in Ucl, tried in his first season in Epl, flopped that he had to change. Imagine Pep using 35+ years combat dm which is Fernandiho. That should ring a bell.

Football has changed. Ball playing Dms now can’t properly function without a combat dm partnering with them.

Trevor012:
Was Fernadinho not Pep Dm In his first season at city when he flopped according to you? How many champions league titles has Fernadinho being Pep Dm brought to City . AgberoFc has started

hensben:
Bousq is worse under pressure. You didn’t notice this due to Barca style of play then. Substituting Alonso was down to vincente maintaining Barca trio since they play together for Barca. For Alonso to still be included in Spain line up showed his quality.on a normal, he will be dropped to accommodate offensive player but bousq can not be trusted fully should in case the team loose the ball or being countered. Alonso was a deep lying playmaker and he was special at it.

donstan18:
Pep tried tikitaka in his first season with Fernandiho and flopped.

The post was for people with common sense to understand,

Get out!

donstan18:
It worked for Barcelona then, can’t work for them now because of the modern days football.

That’s my point.

Pep tried it in Bayern and flopped in Ucl, .

monerozi5590:
How many times did you watch Alonso at Madrid? Busquets is better under pressure than Alonso

At the bolded. Not true. So team cannot counter Spain when Alonso is substituted?

hensben:
Mascherano that was intercepting opponent play outside his 18 yard box. Mascherano made high line football successful for Barca then. Since he left high line football became a disaster since bousq can not actually make runs to intercept. It takes someone that understand football devoid of sentiment to know what I am saying is true. I watched Barcelona then and saw this thing. The fact that bousq remain is just pep’s doing, it doesn’t mean he is better than the midfielders he pushed backward for them. Pep will play Valdez ahead of cech, Buffon or casillas due to ball playing goalkeeper, doesn’t make Valdez better than them. Pep played Martinez in CB too at Bayern and destroyed his career and momentum. Martinez was everything for Bayern while playing CDM but in order to defend bousq inefficient as CDM Raumdeuter said martinez was reckless

donstan18:
Inesta-Xavi midfielder was a real one and actually not a lie. The success of that midfield was due to their contributions, not one sided.

Both needed each other. They excelled because they played together. Xavi calms the midfield down with his passes and game reading skills, while Inesta refines the attacking settings with his skills, moves, ability to spin, control and moving the ball around. You can’t credit one and discredit one. Never!!

Xavi was very useless before Inesta and Inesta ended up useless after Xavi left. They were individually useless, unproductive, incompetent and ineffective in that midfield. None could operate alone.

Thanks to their stars Lampard and Gerard didn’t play club football in the same team.

Kilishihunter:
They must have played for different countries then

Kilishihunter:
That is what the video you showed me is about
Mascherano tackling and intercepting the ball from CB at high line , he should have come out to drag the DM position and leave pique to face attackers at the back alone na when he's not mad, Alabi and pavard did the same too under flick who played high lines too why didn't they displace the midfielders and mascherano left Barca for China in 2018, Barcelona still won the league and went into the UCL semi-final, Like I said the anfield debacle made many to start baseless talks? Infact can you pinpoint one goal in that match with busquets as the main culprit? I don't care about Martinez who was already playing CB at Bilbao before he moved to bayern, this is about busquets

monerozi5590:
How many times did you watch Alonso at Madrid? Busquets is better under pressure than Alonso

At the bolded. Not true. So team cannot counter Spain when Alonso is substituted?

Debroslink:
Coild you put your money where your mouth is?

Let's do a quick one $100

donstan18:
Club football helps players a lot understand each other, country games don’t do the same because they could possibly be playing with different kind of managers and tactics.

Especially midfielders and defenders.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]As much as I agree with you, the same standards used to drag others should be applied to Mazi Fraudniesta Iniesta.

Giroud played the World cup with no goal, and we never rest till today. Be reminded that the WC tournament has less games than the league

Iniesta went through a year without a goal or assist, but we should talk about Creativity, influence and class.

Nna, don't make a case for Iniesta abeg. Let him be dragged accordingly. [/color]

airmark:
This is a lie and you know it.

donstan18:
Inesta will be dragged once his fanboiz start dragging people's favorite player.

Nobody dragged Fraudvertz here until his fanboiz started dragging Mount. Most of the dragging here are done in defense.

If e sure for Inesta fanboiz, make them drag people’s favorite players that’s when you’ll know that no player is above being dragged in the mud.

Kilishihunter:
Oga I can give you a list of other successful midfields who succeeded without their players playing in the same club side, so that's not an excuse (except for maybe the coach) If you told me Gerrard and scholes or lampard and scholes would have as much impact as xavi and iniesta then I might agree with you, because as much as both lampard and Gerrard were world class box to box midfielders and massive threats especially while going forward no one of them could set the tempo of the game, dictate play like Paul scholes in the center of the park, a controller

Kilishihunter:
How is it a lie? [s]Xabi was the better all round midfielder but who was more press resistant between them, who made more interceptions[/s]

hensben:
Defensively the guy na liability and that is supposed to be his primary duty, offensively no level, he just turn like snail and give the ball to xavi to orchestrate and dictate. When the team is caught on counter he can not run, he can not spot danger on time, too lazy and frail. In the link I sent to you, the second slide mascherano who is acclaimed CB already saw that Lampard want to release a quick and rushed at him but it was too late because he is coming from afar, where was bousq at that time, a supposed DM of the team. Watch that second slide again and tell me if Mascherano didn’t play the role of a DM there. A DM that is bad without the ball. Ball possession covered his ass all those years, immediately ball possession reduced for Barca every Barca fans eye open to see that na fraud them Dey parade as CDM.

Mcleo007:
As for S. Busquets, I hope this coach has the courage to drop his a55 or use him sparingly, only for games against lowly sides. Dude is a huge fraud, and has Xaviesta masking his many deficiencies to thank. His been badly exposed since they left. This team cant win the UCL with him as an undsputed starter. He was bodied by Thiago and T. Muller.

donstan18:
Inesta will be dragged once his fanboiz start dragging people's favorite player.

Nobody dragged Fraudvertz here until his fanboiz started dragging Mount. Most of the dragging here are done in defense.

If e sure for Inesta fanboiz, make them drag people’s favorite players that’s when you’ll know that no player is above being dragged in the mud.

hensben:
He was actually leaving pique to join the midfield in tackles when barca are not with the ball on several occasions. I watched barca play then and i know exactly what i am saying. One of the example was Frank Lampard pass to ramirez, mascherano came out from cb line to try to stop him from giving the pass. Try to go study the way barca play then, the tactics and structure, with and without the ball.