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rvp2018:
But I had already said 6.7B - as of 2020 sept - and so if you were going to dispute that - good manners and common sense - put a link.

Don't be silly. You already admitted to owing China $7bn. That's not far off from the "about $8bn" I mentioned. is it?

rvp2018:
Madcow antics

Lunatic

no more lies

Can you please lend me that extra 1B dollars?

obaaderemi:
Don't be silly. You already admitted to owing China $7bn. That's not far off from the "about $8bn" I mentioned. is it?

rvp2018:
Can you please lend me that extra 1B dollars?

Did I lend you the $7bn? See why just30 calls you a lunatic.

I thought it was 8B? Obviously never heard of someone who round off a whole billion dollars That is like how many trillion in Naira. You're rounding off 400 billion Naira. Very rich of.

obaaderemi:
Did I lend you the $7bn? See why just30 calls you a lunatic.

Ghana Auto Market projected to hit 11 billion dollars in size

rvp2018:
To help Ndukwu - Nairobi top 5 estates for me would be.

1) Old Muthaiga -obviously flying a drone here is out of questions - and even seeing houses here driving around . What make Muthaiga - old muthaiga exclusive - really old money - houses sits on average 2 acres plus - it almost impossible to find a land for sale - and of course it sorrounded by Karua forest - so birds and monkeys - and freshest of air. It beats old karen by just being 5km from city center and 2kms from Westland.

and Muthaiga has one best golf club. If you are lucky to buy old muthaiga - it will be 5m dollars..only international drug dealers can afford otherwise it old inherited money.

This house goes for 6.5m dollars - sits on 2.8 acres. Old muthaiga dont have new house...but the land alone will kill you. This really old money who inherit stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwnVsjMJPTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAOVcPGRV7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FWKVKcagF4

2) Old Karen - the karen - with 5 acres plus per unit - you keep horses and quadbikes - surrounded by Ngong forest- not the new Karen with town houses. Like old Muthaiga - it exclusive with Karen golf club - it further from city center - but it makes for it by larger land -and really large crazy 10 bedroom plus houses - but it not as exclusive as Muthaiga. New stupid money can buy into it - something almost impossible in Old Muthaiga.

Kenya open is either held in Muthaiga or Karen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4esol9WUWdY

3) This is when it gets tough...Lavington including valley arcade, Old Kitusuru, Old Gigiri, Old lower Kabete and Rosssyline. I would go with Kitusuru.. bigger land size..more audacious houses...not far from everything
Runda doesnt feature..Runda is coffee farm turned residence recently.

4) No 10 - or so you go for Runda...land become 1/4 or 1/2 acre - new muthaiga, new karen, new kitusuru, name it.

5) Endless list

4)

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rvp2018:
I thought it was 8B? Obviously never heard of someone who round off a whole billion dollars That is like how many trillion in Naira. You're rounding off 400 billion Naira. Very rich of.

And yet you could easily round your economy off to $100bn.

Ghana MadMan - explain this kind of Bribery More corruption than Kenya Water and electricity issues; and general mess; illiteracy; religious nonsense,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-MYPEU8ajo

It now more than that.
Characteristic Gross domestic product in billion U.S. dollars
2021* 106.04
2020* 99.29
2019 95.41
2018 87.8

obaaderemi:
And yet you could easily round your economy off to $100bn.

Lol I can see this street urchins are back here. Just checked out that other thread and found it has been closed for good I am laughing so damn well now. ...,,Good to see rvp and his cohorts back on this thread whilst facing the title of this thread which apparently is the reality of things not that fictional thread with fairy tales and deluded epistles.....,

rvp2018:
It now more than that.
Characteristic Gross domestic product in billion U.S. dollars
2021* 106.04
2020* 99.29
2019 95.41
2018 87.8

Can ur city ever??

Abuja is so damn modern.All it’s need is a few real estate boom and it will be right there competing with the best of SA cities. It has nailed the basic to world class standard. Just watch and be amazed my friend. The first 11 minute was in maitama(not the cbd).


When I habe a city like this u brag effortlessly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT0C7URG6-Q

We are here because you closed the other thread. Otherwise everyone by now knows Nigeria is a hell-hole - and nobody is even trying to compare poor Nigeria with anything. It' a zoo.

Obviously you're so desperate you had to close the other thread and having us here is kinda of affirmation you're desperately looking for your zoo.

samorobo:
Lol I can see this street urchins are back here. Just checked out that other thread and found it has been closed for good I am laughing so damn well now. ...,,Good to see rvp and his cohorts back on this thread whilst facing the title of this thread which apparently is the reality of things not that fictional thread with fairy tales and deluded epistles.....,

Abuja cannot get to Nakuru or Eldoret or Kisumu. Mombasa is many levels above it.

When Abuja get near Mombasa - come and tell us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxw8ZC9pY6U

samorobo:
Can ur city ever??

Abuja is so damn modern.All it’s need is a few real estate boom and it will be right there competing with the best of SA cities. It has nailed the basic to world class standard. Just watch and be amazed my friend. The first 11 minute was in maitama(not the cbd).


When I habe a city like this u brag effortlessly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT0C7URG6-Q

rvp2018:
It now more than that.
Characteristic Gross domestic product in billion U.S. dollars
2021* 106.04
2020* 99.29
2019 95.41
2018 87.8

How did your GDP grow from 99bn in 2020 to 106bn in 2021 when your country actually went through a recession?
Care to put a link?

and depreciation

obaaderemi:
How did your GDP grow from 99bn in 2020 to 106bn in 2021 when your country actually went through a recession?
Care to put a link?

You didn't see a star - it's a projection. Kenya has not gone through a recession. The 2020 figures are yet to come because KNBS has started the process of rebasing our GDP.

Expectation for 2021 is maybe 120B - and we shall overtake Morocco - as the rebasing is expected to increase the GDP by as high as 25%.

Next will be Algeria - then Nigeria - then South Africa then Egypt - by 2040

Only a slowpoke can trust Nigeria fake GDP figures

obaaderemi:
How did your GDP grow from 99bn in 2020 to 106bn in 2021 when your country actually went through a recession?
Care to put a link?

rvp2018:
You didn't see a star - it's a projection. Kenya has not gone through a recession. The 2020 figures are yet to come because KNBS has started the process of rebasing our GDP.

Expectation for 2021 is maybe 120B - and we shall overtake Morocco - as the rebasing is expected to increase the GDP by as high as 25%.

Next will be Algeria - then Nigeria - then South Africa then Egypt - by 2040

Only a slowpoke can trust Nigeria fake GDP figures

So, it's just projection. So why did you say *it's now more than 100bn*? Your economy is then lower than 100bn.
You can only overtake Morocco with your overcooked dodgy figures.

obaaderemi:
So, it's just projection. So why did you say *it's now more than 100bn*? Your economy is then lower than 100bn.
You can only overtake Morocco with your overcooked dodgy figures.

ain't possible in 10 years...

their economy is back at 80billion

Because we are already in 2021 - half year- and it was half a billion shy of it in 2019 - so it now definitely pass 100B - possibly now 103B - end of year 106B - if rebased - possibly 120B - overtaking Morocco.

If it was cooked - kenya budget at 36B - while Nigeria federal budget at 25B (with gazillion of oil barrels) would show.

Our ordinary taxes have doubled in less than 10yrs from 7-8B per annum - to now 17B - if you include A-I-D (not aid like Ghana) - we are talking 22B total revenues. Only 100B PLUS economy can generate such revenues.

Kenya economy is growing fast - and is about 5yrs from hitting a super-fast growth thanks to demographic dividends - we are the cusp of demographic transition and having nailed the basics - all we need is to get our industrialization flying. The basics for leapfrogging have been laid. The conditions are about met - just 5 years.

Morroco is kaput. Next is Algeria in less than 5yrs. Then we go for Nigeria (the real GDP is about 200B). Before 2030 - Africa top economies will be Egypt, South Africa and Kenya...Nigeria if oil and gas play ball could be 4th.

obaaderemi:
So, it's just projection. So why did you say *it's now more than 100bn*? Your economy is then lower than 100bn.
You can only overtake Morocco with your overcooked dodgy figures.

Study this population pyramid slowly - and realize 5yrs from 2019 - that is 2024 - Kenya biggest age-sex cohort will be joining the workforce - and from then - the dependency ratio will keep dropping - as less and less kids are born - meaning adult will become more richer and richer.

To get here...is not easy.

. Though Kenya’s population is still youthful, the rate of
increase has slowed down since 2009 Census, an indication of declining fertility. The pyramid
shows that children less than 5 years are fewer compared to those in the subsequent age cohort
(5-9) years. Similarly, children in the age category 10-14 are more than those in the age 5-9
years.

rvp2018:
Because we are already in 2021 - half year- and it was half a billion shy of it in 2019 - so it now definitely pass 100B - possibly now 103B - end of year 106B - if rebased - possibly 120B - overtaking Morocco.

If it was cooked - kenya budget at 36B - while Nigeria federal budget at 25B (with gazillion of oil barrels) would show.

Our ordinary taxes have doubled in less than 10yrs from 7-8B per annum - to now 17B - if you include A-I-D (not aid like Ghana) - we are talking 22B total revenues. Only 100B PLUS economy can generate such revenues.

Kenya economy is growing fast - and is about 5yrs from hitting a super-fast growth thanks to demographic dividends - we are the cusp of demographic transition and having nailed the basics - all we need is to get our industrialization flying. The basics for leapfrogging have been laid. The conditions are about met - just 5 years.

Morroco is kaput. Next is Algeria in less than 5yrs. Then we go for Nigeria (the real GDP is about 200B). Before 2030 - Africa top economies will be Egypt, South Africa and Kenya...Nigeria if oil and gas play ball could be 4th.

I think the biggest challenge Nigeria is/will be facing is instability.....
There's no one who would have confidence to invest in country where kidnappings, terrorism,economic stagnation, horrible infrastructure, illiteracy,poverty are getting even worse

Stevoh18:
I think the biggest challenge Nigeria is/will be facing is instability.....
There's no one who would have confidence to invest in country where kidnappings, terrorism,economic stagnation, horrible infrastructure, illiteracy,poverty are getting even worse

Nigeria continues to attract more foreign direct investment than Kenya. What's Kenya not doing well?

Below are Africa's largest FDI destinations 2020.
I don't think Kenya is on that list.

rvp2018:
Because we are already in 2021 - half year- and it was half a billion shy of it in 2019 - so it now definitely pass 100B - possibly now 103B - end of year 106B - if rebased - possibly 120B - overtaking Morocco.

If it was cooked - kenya budget at 36B - while Nigeria federal budget at 25B (with gazillion of oil barrels) would show.

Our ordinary taxes have doubled in less than 10yrs from 7-8B per annum - to now 17B - if you include A-I-D (not aid like Ghana) - we are talking 22B total revenues. Only 100B PLUS economy can generate such revenues.

Kenya economy is growing fast - and is about 5yrs from hitting a super-fast growth thanks to demographic dividends - we are the cusp of demographic transition and having nailed the basics - all we need is to get our industrialization flying. The basics for leapfrogging have been laid. The conditions are about met - just 5 years.

Morroco is kaput. Next is Algeria in less than 5yrs. Then we go for Nigeria (the real GDP is about 200B). Before 2030 - Africa top economies will be Egypt, South Africa and Kenya...Nigeria if oil and gas play ball could be 4th.

Where else will Kenya get its revenue from if it doesn't tax its people into the ground? You are making life very difficult for poor Kenyans and you are here bragging about it. This reminds one of Germany during the Weimar era. It led to a lot of ugly things like Adolf Hitler.

Nigeria needs to widen its tax net but not tax people into the ground like stupid Kenya is doing. New taxes and less income.
See below:

It dysfunctional country - outside oil and gas

Stevoh18:
I think the biggest challenge Nigeria is/will be facing is instability.....
There's no one who would have confidence to invest in country where kidnappings, terrorism,economic stagnation, horrible infrastructure, illiteracy,poverty are getting even worse

Only 6m kenyan filled their taxes - in a country with 25M adults; so what do you mean kenyans are overtaxed; when are just starting. Your theories about fake kenya GDP flies in the face - we are taxing about 20% of the GDP - which far cry from countries in Europe that taxes 40-50 percent of GDP - or South Africa doing 25%.

As for Nigeria - there is nothing to tax - outside oil barrels. Maybe you can tax the remittance.

Countries develop by taxing their citizens - so it get money to build infrastructure and do the social investment needed.

But Nigeria - your federal budget of 25B dollars is TRAGIC. That is why you cannot beat even Boko Haram. Gov so underfunded it's a joke.

obaaderemi:
Where else will Kenya get its revenue from if it doesn't tax its people into the ground? You are making life very difficult for poor Kenyans and you are here bragging about it. This reminds one of Germany during the Weimar era. It led to a lot of ugly things like Adolf Hitler.

Nigeria needs to widen its tax net but not tax people into the ground like stupid Kenya is doing. New taxes and less income.
See below:

This the usual oil/gas/mineral investment in Africa.

obaaderemi:
Nigeria continues to attract more foreign direct investment than Kenya. What's Kenya not doing well?

Below are Africa's largest FDI destinations 2020.
I don't think Kenya is on that list.

rvp2018:
This the usual oil/gas/mineral investment in Africa.

It's not mineral investment. Oil is going down.
Its things like ICT.

rvp2018:
This the usual oil/gas/mineral investment in Africa.

Excuses again.
It's not mineral investment. Oil is going down.
Its things like ICT.

rvp2018:
Only 6m kenyan filled their taxes - in a country with 25M adults; so what do you mean kenyans are overtaxed; when are just starting. Your theories about fake kenya GDP flies in the face - we are taxing about 20% of the GDP - which far cry from countries in Europe that taxes 40-50 percent of GDP - or South Africa doing 25%.

As for Nigeria - there is nothing to tax - outside oil barrels. Maybe you can tax the remittance.

Countries develop by taxing their citizens - so it get money to build infrastructure and do the social investment needed.

But Nigeria - your federal budget of 25B dollars is TRAGIC. That is why you cannot beat even Boko Haram. Gov so underfunded it's a joke.

If $15bn is 20% of your GDP, then your GDP must be about $300bn. Kenya's numbers never add up.

What kind of nonsense is that. 10% of 300B - is 30B - and 20% is 60B. When kenya ordinary revenues get to 60B - yes our GDP will have exceeded 300B. That will happen before 2030.

As of now Kenya ordinary revenue (taxes alone) is approaching 2B dollars a month - now well over 1.7B - if times 12 months - 21B. This in a month of Covid 19.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/business/kenya/2021-05-04-kra-surpasses-april-target-by-sh65-billion/

The last I checked the other revenues - user fees, court fines, licensing, such - normally contribute 4B dollars annually.

Therefore for kenya level of economy - we are already at 22B - which would indicate an economy of 110B dollars - if tax to gdp was around 20% like most countries at that level of development.

The rebasing will happen soon but definitely, 120B look likely.

obaaderemi:
If $15bn is 20% of your GDP, then your GDP must be about $300bn. Kenya's numbers never add up.

Things like ICT - where Kenya leads normally or what are you talking about.

obaaderemi:
Excuses again.
It's not mineral investment. Oil is going down.
Its things like ICT.