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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:14pm On Jul 07, 2021
Dost42:

First blame should be laporte, the same kind of clearance he did against swiss he repeated the same thing .but i will slightly agree ibime.a faster dm will sense the danger and run back, after all the ball dropped for chiesa,.replace busquets with casemiro there and he will surely unsettle that chiesa's run


Dont let us go and be digging casemiro's erroneous moment for us to agree that the goal yesterday had nothing to do with Busquet.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 4:15pm On Jul 07, 2021
popizaino:


Yes .....that is the same match I am talking about. The line up had no Sergio Busquet.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 4:16pm On Jul 07, 2021
raumdeuter:


As a keeper, what do they tell you guys before penalties?

The GK coach will inform us where their usual penalty takers usually put their spot kicks. (Kane: plays to the left, Ramos: Center or left etc)
Make yourself BIG.
Watch the kickers standing feet.
For players that run and pause/stuttering (e.g Jorginho and Bruno), you wait for them to play before diving.
Eye contact is very important; timid players like Morata and Martial will give you a clue.

I think waiting and following the ball is more effective than gambling to dive to one side
I saw Martinez follow all the penalties yesterday and caught 3

I prefer picking a spot than waiting and following the ball.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:17pm On Jul 07, 2021
Ibime:


Go and check the line up again, then come back and claim your L


grin grin grin grin

I came back with L but this time around to place it on your neck

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:24pm On Jul 07, 2021
popizaino:



grin grin grin grin

I came back with L but this time around to place it on your neck


You must be joking.

Check the line up


https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/match/2009609--bayern-vs-barcelona/lineups/?iv=true


If you are talking about the second leg which was 3-0, why should Barca players struggle when Busquet has already sold the first game 4-0

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 4:26pm On Jul 07, 2021
When Ibime was loving Jorginho cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:28pm On Jul 07, 2021
Trevor012:
When Ibime was loving Jorginho cheesy cheesy

Indeed. Then I realised he can only do this against Newcastle and Crystal Palace.

From 186 passes against Newcastle in 90 minutes to 29 passes against Spain in 120 minutes.

If it no be real regista, e no fit be regista

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 4:31pm On Jul 07, 2021
Confession time cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 4:31pm On Jul 07, 2021
Ibime:


Indeed. Then I realised he can only do this against Newcastle and Crystal Palace.

From 186 passes against Newcastle in 90 minutes to 29 passes against Spain in 120 minutes.

If it no be real regista, e no fit be regista
How many possession did Italy have yesterday through out the entire match?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:35pm On Jul 07, 2021
Trevor012:

How many possession did Italy have yesterday through out the entire match?

30%, thanks to their fake regista that could not request the ball and get them passing

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:36pm On Jul 07, 2021
Ibime:



When a virus is in my team that I know my team will never be consistent with such a player, I will continue to expound on his weaknesses.

You never see anything. Go and ask people here about my issue with Mikel in 2012.

Mikel just like Jorginho could control possession against small teams. Mikel like Jorginho could park the bus very well and was one of our best players in 2012 UCL within that system. Yet I kept highlighting his weakness which is the exact same weakness as Jorginho, that is the minute you demand Mikel to play attacking football against any decent side, Mikel will turn your midfield into basket and start escorting everyone from 20 yards further up the pitch.

Most of the guys who were arguing for Mikel then saw it the next season and now most of those same guys are anti any escort midfielder in Chelsea.

The next season, that's how Mikel knocked Chelsea out of UCL group stage and once again was leading Chelsea to the inconsistency of struggling to make 4.

The rest is history as everyone found out Mikel cannot anchor an attacking team and became a perennial substitute before being dashed away to China.

Jorginho will play out exactly the same way when he is asked to anchor an attacking team. You should be worried about a midfielder that can't stand up to West Ham, Leicester, Villa midfield for Chelsea and gets run ragged whenever he faces these sort of teams. That is when a good controller will have these teams parking the bus, such should be his dominance of the football.


Don't worry about Hojberg who Spurs fans consider their 3rd best player behind Son and Kane and voted as such. Worry about Jorginho who cannot make top 7 Chelsea players in any of the 3 seasons he has been at Chelsea


The same way you called out mikel was the same you called out Drogba preferring Anelka to him but we all saw know drogba served you big L and mikel did the same you just don't want to accept. Getting knocked out of the UCL in group stage in 2013 was anomaly and it has nothing to do with mikel,Chelsea without Drogba was always going to be a setback for a while before the club gets her acts together.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 4:37pm On Jul 07, 2021
Jorginho was the 2nd highest rated player for Italy yesterday cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:43pm On Jul 07, 2021
Ibime:



You must be joking.

Check the line up


https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/match/2009609--bayern-vs-barcelona/lineups/?iv=true


If you are talking about the second leg which was 3-0, why should Barca players struggle when Busquet has already sold the first game 4-0


The scoreline must been an oversight from but I was specific about the venue of the match nou camp .

Your bolded as no basis or whatsoever cus In 2009 Barcelona defeated Bayern Munich 4-0 at the nou camp and Bayern held them to a draw at the Allianz arena. So now give us another excuse why the scoreline was 3-0 without Busquet?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:45pm On Jul 07, 2021
Ibime:


No goal is down to any single player unless he passes it directly to opposition to score. There is no goal you will score that someone won't say this and this player could have done better. But the fact is when you have an escort midfielder, you will be constantly blaming everyone when he could have stopped the problem at source. Like you said, Chiesa goal does not exist if Busquets simply runs back step for step.


Why didnt Lampard stop iniesta's goal in 2009 despite playing a man advantage? Could he be that he was also escorting ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:46pm On Jul 07, 2021
[quote author=Trevor012 post=103465883][/quote]


I said the match at nou camp .


Thank you .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 4:46pm On Jul 07, 2021
Kilishihunter:

To win every tournament hard na, and you have to do it against the best so no be new thing but the way some of una dey talk like say Brazil go just enter field beat them like thief, This Brazil that play cautiously like England, 1-0 up then they lock shop, looking to hit you on the counter except you're express, Brazil are unbeaten in 13 games while Argentina are unbeaten in 19 games, In the last 9 games when argentina took the lead first, they didn't lose and they topped the tougher Copa group and they are almost similar to Spain in which they convert a minimal amount of the chances they create, Well Brazil are still favourites I won't deny, but make una no think say na walk in the park, Fans no even dey sef, Forget my shalaye

If they win o. That is their own. They should just not lose. The trolling will be massive. Because they've been carrying agenda up and down.

No soft landing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 4:52pm On Jul 07, 2021
raumdeuter:


As a keeper, what do they tell you guys before penalties?

I think waiting and following the ball is more effective than gambling to dive to one side
I saw Martinez follow all the penalties yesterday and caught 3
Can u catch a bullet? grin
You need to move before the ball is kicked to have a better percentage of catching the ball, that is why some players prefer panenka knowing fully well that keepers would have dive to either side of the post before d ball is kick.
Martinez was just lucky to guess right, in 2012 UCL final Petr Cech went for all the 6 penalties also.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:27pm On Jul 07, 2021
popizaino:



The scoreline must been an oversight from but I was specific about the venue of the match nou camp .

Your bolded as no basis or whatsoever cus In 2009 Barcelona defeated Bayern Munich 4-0 at the nou camp and Bayern held them to a draw at the Allianz arena. So now give us another excuse why the scoreline was 3-0 without Busquet?


The venue of the match is redundant. What is important is the score from the first leg.

Busquet already disgraced Barca in first leg 4-0. Barca kuku played fringe players in the second leg knowing the tie is over. When you are chasing a 4-0 scoreline, of course you go gung ho and leave yourself open to concede more. Busquet has already done the damage in the first leg
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:29pm On Jul 07, 2021
Trevor012:

Truly Chielsa is better than Havertz grin grin
Seconded grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:29pm On Jul 07, 2021
popizaino:



Why didnt Lampard stop iniesta's goal in 2009 despite playing a man advantage? Could he be that he was also escorting ?

Last I checked, Chelsea bus was parked and there was no escorting, it was just a long range shot. Ballack was even closer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:29pm On Jul 07, 2021
MorataFC:
Can u catch a bullet? grin
You need to move before the ball is kicked to have a better percentage of catching the ball, that is why some players prefer panenka knowing fully well that keepers would have dive to either side of the post before d ball is kick.
Martinez was just lucky to guess right, in 2012 UCL final Petr Cech went for all the 6 penalties also.

They were not lucky, they follow the ball. What is the probability that Cech guessed right for 5 penalty kicks

The one that annoys me the most is 5 kicks and they are selling keeper for all 5 kicks like a dummy
even if you decide to jump early for 2, you should wait for at least 2. Vary your movement not just do one thing

Expert17:


The GK coach will inform us where their usual penalty takers usually put their spot kicks. (Kane: plays to the left, Ramos: Center or left etc)
Make yourself BIG.
Watch the kickers standing feet.
For players that run and pause/stuttering (e.g Jorginho and Bruno), you wait for them to play before diving.
Eye contact is very important; timid players like Morata and Martial will give you a clue.

prefer picking a spot than waiting and following the ball.


My opinion is this. Many penalty shooters vary their kicks.
When a player picks the top corner and blast, even if you guess and jump early you likely wont catch it. It takes supremely confident players with liver to try that type of top corner blast because it can easily go over the bar. Those are the Yekini type of penalties where you wil know what he wants to do but never catch it

Next you have players who pick bottom corners and slot it, e.g Thiago yesterday.
Gambling to jump early makes it 50-50. If you wait for the guy to pick his spot and follow, you stand a very good chance unless the shooter picks the extreme angle which is beyond your dive, those types of extreme angles also put the shooter at risk because he can easily hit the post or go outside. For these I believe following the shooter is more advantageous

The 3rd one are more popular, they are the panenka or those who wait for keeper to move
This is where waiting will pay off the most, By the time they run up and stutter step, they cannot gather enough shooting power in the shot so the shot is weak and by the time the shooter runs up and the keeper has not moved, the shooter becomes confused and has to make a split second decision of where to place it, usually its weak and if you follow it you can easily catch it

e.g Schweinsteiger vs Cech in 2012 CL

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:33pm On Jul 07, 2021
popizaino:



The same way you called out mikel was the same you called out Drogba preferring Anelka to him but we all saw know drogba served you big L and mikel did the same you just don't want to accept. Getting knocked out of the UCL in group stage in 2013 was anomaly and it has nothing to do with mikel,Chelsea without Drogba was always going to be a setback for a while before the club gets her acts together.

Mikel career after that final, getting benched for Luiz to play midfield so that Chelsea midfield can stabilise a bit says otherwise. Mikel from that point was a bench warmer. Benitez even dropped him fully for Oriol Romeu, just that Romeu suffered a cruciate injury. After that injury, Benitez moved Luiz to midfield rather than play the snail Mikel. And few months later his handcuff to the bench was completed when Chelsea bought Matic. Mikel only took 5 months to disgrace himself after that UCL final and spent the next 4 years on the bench before being sent to China. Even when Conte came, Conte still used Chalobah as first sub instead of the escort.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 5:41pm On Jul 07, 2021
odizeey:


If they win o. That is their own. They should just not lose. The trolling will be massive. Because they've been carrying agenda up and down.

No soft landing.
And if they win nko, you think the 'agenda carriers' won't troll massively too? May the better team win, That's all I have to say
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 5:47pm On Jul 07, 2021
odizeey:


I like how Messi fans are making mouth now. Everywhere na noise. cheesy

The landing no go soft at all.
You put shukushuku for ground?

Carry time o
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dost42(m): 6:06pm On Jul 07, 2021
popizaino:



Dont let us go and be digging casemiro's erroneous moment for us to agree that the goal yesterday had nothing to do with Busquet.
Everyone has lapses..but but everything is not agenda.
We have seen kante or Fernandinho block opponents from running into channels.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:39pm On Jul 07, 2021
Ibime:


Mikel career after that final, getting benched for Luiz to play midfield so that Chelsea midfield can stabilise a bit says otherwise. Mikel from that point was a bench warmer. Benitez even dropped him fully for Oriol Romeu, just that Romeu suffered a cruciate injury. After that injury, Benitez moved Luiz to midfield rather than play the snail Mikel. And few months later his handcuff to the bench was completed when Chelsea bought Matic. Mikel only took 5 months to disgrace himself after that UCL final and spent the next 4 years on the bench before being sent to China. Even when Conte came, Conte still used Chalobah as first sub instead of the escort.


When you arguing with me about Chelsea keep away points like the bolded ......I have seen Rafa starting moses whilst keeping hazard on the bench so benching mikel means nothing. Your Romeu and chalobah are both languishing in bottom clubs while chasing Mikel's career achievements.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Actman05: 6:49pm On Jul 07, 2021
Mason Mount becomes the first #Chelsea player to ever play in a semi-final of a major international tournament for England.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:51pm On Jul 07, 2021
Dost42:

Everyone has lapses..but but everything is not agenda.
We have seen kante or Fernandinho block opponents from running into channels.




And you have not seen Busquet doing the same? That yesterday italy goal could not have been averted by your favourite DMs.....know this and know peace

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:57pm On Jul 07, 2021
popizaino:



When you arguing with me about Chelsea keep away points like the bolded ......I have seen Rafa starting moses whilst keeping hazard on the bench so benching mikel means nothing. Your Romeu and chalobah are both languishing in bottom clubs while chasing Mikel's career achievements.







If Rafa ever put Hazard on the bench, it's to rest.

But when he dropped Mikel, it's because Mikel was a basket in midfield in any other setup other than a bus parking set up.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:13pm On Jul 07, 2021
Actman05:
Mason Mount becomes the first #Chelsea player to ever play in a semi-final of a major international tournament for England.
Doings

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 7:18pm On Jul 07, 2021
Are these stuffs allowed cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 7:21pm On Jul 07, 2021
Saka back in the starting line up. He wasn't match fit the last game hence why Sancho started.

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