₦airaland Forum

rvp2018:
Mad cow - Try to get this kind of pristine enviroment - only the Swiss Alps would compete.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxAvcMko5g

ArabicBerber:
I watched these videos and all I see is green forest with rolling grass fields. This is a feature most countries have on Earth somewhere theres nothing special or unique about this in yours. The same thing can be found across Africa.

It looks NOTHING like the Swiss Alps by the way.

ArabicBerber:
I watched these videos and all I see is green forest with rolling grass fields. This is a feature most countries have on Earth somewhere theres nothing special or unique about this in yours. The same thing can be found across Africa.

It looks NOTHING like the Swiss Alps by the way.

Swiss Alps

rvp2018:
Because we are already in 2021 - half year- and it was half a billion shy of it in 2019 - so it now definitely pass 100B - possibly now 103B - end of year 106B - if rebased - possibly 120B - overtaking Morocco.

If it was cooked - kenya budget at 36B - while Nigeria federal budget at 25B (with gazillion of oil barrels) would show.

Our ordinary taxes have doubled in less than 10yrs from 7-8B per annum - to now 17B - if you include A-I-D (not aid like Ghana) - we are talking 22B total revenues. Only 100B PLUS economy can generate such revenues.

Kenya economy is growing fast - and is about 5yrs from hitting a super-fast growth thanks to demographic dividends - we are the cusp of demographic transition and having nailed the basics - all we need is to get our industrialization flying. The basics for leapfrogging have been laid. The conditions are about met - just 5 years.

Morroco is kaput. Next is Algeria in less than 5yrs. Then we go for Nigeria (the real GDP is about 200B). Before 2030 - Africa top economies will be Egypt, South Africa and Kenya...Nigeria if oil and gas play ball could be 4th.

kikuyu1:
Ideally you'd stick to your own comical tax/GDP ratio of 6% instead of embarrassing yourself challenging our own world class methodologies.
Yours as in all things is WORSE than Afghanistan which is at 9%: HTF does that even HAPPEN!?

obaaderemi:
Nigeria is an oil producing country unlike Kenya and Afghanistan. Saudi at a point was doing 3%.

obaaderemi:
Kenya's economy growing very fast? By how much did you grow in 2020? If your GDP was less than $100bn in 2019, then how could it be $110bn now when you grew by less than 2% in 2020?

rvp2018:
2019 - I think it was 98-99. 2020 we don't know the final figures - WB says it depreciated by 0.3 percent - but KNBS will give the final figures. 2021 projection is 4% according to world bank.

rvp2018:
But I told Kenya is undergoing re-basing. This because we did census in 2019 and we have more data to rebase. Nigeria of course cannot afford a census..too poor.

rvp2018:
Youre comparing Nigeria with desert oil countries with nothing outside oil. Why would Oil contribute to 90 percent of Nigeira taxes and 9 percent of GDP. Yet you tax heavily like Kenya. It's not like NIgeria is tax free haven like some of those countries....where gov doesnt tax but pay citizens.

Nigeria attempt to tax it's citizen - as much as kenya does - but there is nothing to squeeze from a dry stone.

GDP overcooked.

obaaderemi:
Nigeria is not dry land like Kenya. We are a gas and oil country. That's why tax revenue is low, although too low because we don't widen the tax net like Kenya does and not because Nigerians are poorer than Kenyans. On average Kenyans are actually poorer but mercilessly taxed because you've got nothing else.

obaaderemi:
Listen to yourself. I hope your sidekick,kikuyu1 is reading this.
99bn in 2019, if your economy depreciated in 2020, then you started 2021 with even less than 98bn. Then you grew to $110bn by middle of 2021. Voodoo economics at its best.
Kenya undergoing re- basing is same as Kenya cooking its books.

obaaderemi:
Listen to yourself. I hope your sidekick,kikuyu1 is reading this.
99bn in 2019, if your economy depreciated in 2020, then you started 2021 with even less than 98bn. Then you grew to $110bn by middle of 2021. Voodoo economics at its best.
Kenya undergoing re- basing is same as Kenya cooking its books.

theenchanter:
baba, just leave that guy cos na u go tire las las.

obaaderemi:
His numbers never add up.

obaaderemi:
His numbers never add up.

theenchanter:
I tell u, he'll make a claim, his claim will contradict his previous or later submission, he won't realize it and he'll keep boring someone with long epistle full of his own imagination.

Me don leave am to him lane jare.

rvp2018:
It should be easy job therefore to demolish my arguments but obviously the last refuge of a scoundrel is adhominem. You have no facts. Just trying to look for popular support. Your facts should stand on it's on weight or lack of it.

rvp2018:
You don't make sense at all. Saudi do not tax it's citizen. They actually pay them. And so do Kuwaiti and others. They only tax non-citizens.

Nigeria corporate tax is 30 percent like kenya. PAYE start at 24 percent - slightly lower than Kenya. VAT is 8 percent - half of Kenya.

Now tell us why despite all those taxes - you still collect as much taxes as Rwanda - outside the oil and gas.

It obvious the GDP is overcooked - and as you can see ALL OTHER indicators - Nigeria comfortably sit at bottom with Burundi, Niger, Chad, CAR and South Sudan.

You cannot be a middle income country - yet in almost every other indicator - you cluster with Niger. The law of average - mean you should cluster with Niger, Burudi, Chad, CAR and South Sudan in GDP per Capita TOO!...something like 200-300usd.

Nigeria to me is two things - Oil and Remittance. The gov depend on Oil. Nigerians mostly depend on their kin outside the country to survive. Refer to Somalia.

There is no local formal economy that one can tax. It just a sea of hustlers - informal hawking and such. Like Somalia - citizen depend on their kin abroad for survival - and everyone dream is to escape the zoo.

So your economy should simply be summarized as OIL )which fund gov - both local and federal) +Foreign Remittance (which fund most families) + informal economy (eking a living on the streets).

Maybe there a little bit of decent development a long the coast - but rest of Nigeria is not different from Niger or Chad. It wilderness almost...and unlike kenya wild north...yours is over populated like Ethiopia..more than 100M almarajis popping kids every year

theenchanter:

obaaderemi:
You are contradicting yourself. If the government relies on oil, then that's the reason why the tax net is not wide like Kenya where the government has nothing else to rely on but taxes and loans from China.
Any wonder both your tax revenue and Chinese loans are higher than Nigeria's?

rvp2018:
Back to sludge delivered by trucks - Such kind of nonsense. Start building a modern waste system. Wastewater (grey water) should be piped to central places - and treated. Not in cesspools and cesspits unless you want to condemn your underground water.

rvp2018:
Mad-man - show me a place like this in entire Africa - -you have to go to maybe the swiss alps


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7rqMuJeLTY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P7rmJ9wlzo

rvp2018:
Mad-man - show me a place like this in entire Africa - -you have to go to maybe the swiss alps


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7rqMuJeLTY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P7rmJ9wlzo

rvp2018:
I started driving before you were born - precisely in 1989. Youre typical west african with zero knowledge of motor racing. Kenya has long history of safari rally - the ultimate motor racing then. There is a lot that is different in driving a racing car and driving your car. First thing I told is how to turn corners without losing speed...and you do that by left-foot braking - with other foot on the accelerator - I know it doesn't make sense to a slowpoke like you - but at nearly all times - the racing car has the accelerator foot on - so you don't lose time- the driver main job is to flatten all the corners and turns - and make it a straight line - timing when and where to left or right foot break with the accelerator pedal on.

obaaderemi:
Listen to yourself. I hope your sidekick,kikuyu1 is reading this.
99bn in 2019, if your economy depreciated in 2020, then you started 2021 with even less than 98bn. Then you grew to $110bn by middle of 2021. Voodoo economics at its best.
Kenya undergoing re- basing is same as Kenya cooking its books.

Rebasing is a procedure where the national statistical authorities ensure that national accounts statistics present an accurate reflection of an economy as possible. This is by replacing an old base year to come up with volume measures of GDP with a more recent base year. It helps in making adjustments to economic growth, addition of new sectors, new products and technology.[b] The UN Statistical commission recommends that nations have their GDP rebased every five years. [/b

rvp2018:
Let me help. This my hometown Kericho- water and sewage system - a town of less than 30K people. That the sewage systems - and water treatment under construction. My campus roomate was the CEO of it - KEWASCO - but now is County Minister in next county.

Now how can the little thing you have in that video manage 6m people waste water when it look smaller than 30K town system!

Do you know how much wastewater 6m people generate - Nairobi with 4m - generate nearly 100k cubic meters liters of waste water daily (from consumption of 700k cubic litres) - that require a man-made lake to deal with it - there is no technology that can treat wastewater so fast - as it released - what is it using ?

That is why Nairobi city has 4,000 acres of land reserved for treating waste water - in Ruai alone - and many more in other areas. The water is treated and released to the rivers after it is certified as safe.

What you have in Ghana is BABY STEPS - I guess you never had any - like we know it used to cover Accra CBD - but it's broken down - now you dump waste water directly to the underground - and then drill it back as borehole water. No wonder the many diseases.