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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 3:05pm On Jul 10, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Now here's the problem ; you didn't get the full gist about Femi's proposal neither did u get the full gist about why the governors rejected it, but yet u are stanning it. If u must must know, Femi's proposal is a foolish one that isn't in line with modern dictates.

Femi is suggesting that governors make available lands within their states to be used by herders as ranches .....:the governors knowing they aren't obliged to provide such lands for privayr owned businesses turned the proposal down, they believe if farmers can buy lands and cultivate their crops why can't herders do same.

If u don't know, there are farm settlements in places like Epe, Imota and other areas in Lagos where people buy vast amount of lands to cultivate.( I know this because my boss in the office operates a farm in one of such places)

Now tell me what is tribalistic in telling people to run their private businesses in line with modern best practices?
It's not Femi that proposed it rather I think it's from the ministry of Agric or thereabout...

I don't support the proposal though, there's enough land in just about every state, if you want to ranch, lease a piece of land and do your ranching. It's counterproductive to ask states to provide land for ranching as that will mean a certain segment of the country are treated better than others...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:05pm On Jul 10, 2021
BlueRayDick:


If that is how u see it, no problem....Well the way I see it is this; the government should not sit and watch people killed, lose limbs to Herdsmen attacks and do little or nothing to bring perpetrators to book.

Do u know the attack on Igangan community in Oyo State has really not been addressed by the federal goverment?

I mean a community was attacked, people killed and even the palace of the traditional ruler was set ablaze and yet the federal government keeps mum. Then u wonder how people like Sunday Igboho gets to rally so many people including a professor to believe in his agitations. Whether u like it or not, the president's body language in all of this is a major factor in stoking up fire of disintegration.

What should be the role of the state govt or is it just to collect security allowance?

The herdsmen farmer crisis has been going on for as long as I can remember. Its always at the root of those riots in the middle belt even in the 90s
desertification, insecurity and politics just blew it out of control

A herdsman rearing his cattle in free range and a farmer cannot coexist because their businesses are opposite
This Fulani herdsmen crisis did not start with Buhari and will not end with Buhari. Benue Plateau Kogi have been dealing with it for years
Type in google (Fulani attack Benue village + 2012) or any year you want and you are guaranteed to see something gory.

Most cows are owned by rich people all over the country, Northerners and Southerners. The owners provide their herders with guns to "protect" them against cattle rustlers

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 3:21pm On Jul 10, 2021
The main thing for me is the theme, how a concept like that can play out

Asking states to gift portions of their land to northerners for free wouldn't be fair, I agree but that is the first idea, they should have engaged them in dialogue, bring all parties to the table to discuss the issue, instead of just being blunt

Government will have to stimulate that enterprise, they can be taxed more later but if you want it to be financially profitable for private investments vehicles, you need to provide very cheap loans, financial aid packages and plenty tax credits, I can't estimate but i'm sure that it will be financially profitable to the entire economy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:28pm On Jul 10, 2021
Havertz10:
The main thing for me is the theme, how a concept like that can play out

Asking states to gift portions of their land to northerners for free wouldn't be fair, I agree but that is the first idea, they should have engaged them in dialogue, bring all parties to the table to discuss the issue, instead of just being blunt

Government will have to simulate that enterprise, they can be taxed more later but if you want it to be financially profitable for private investments vehicles, you need to provide very cheap loans, financial aid packages and plenty tax credits, I can't estimate but i'm sure that it will be financially profitable to the entire economy
Yes give the land to the herders at a relatively cheap price and introduce levies just like how it's been done in some of our local markets to recoup the investment made. Dialogue would solve most of the problems between farmers and herders but grandstanding won't allow each side to see the benefit of dialogue.
Despite the troubles caused by herders the meat and milk produce aren't good enough to satisfy our needs because the cattle have expended their energy in trekking instead of conserving it for meat and milk production.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:28pm On Jul 10, 2021
MorataFC:
grin grin cheesy Haba nitori Olorun Haaa, kila gbe ki le ju
See finishing, this what mortal Combat calls total annihilation cheesy

Popizaino was stubborn that day. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:30pm On Jul 10, 2021
BlueAngel444:

As if say if person check Google now, you go know grin

I hope you told Raumdeuter, who first used the same google line, this.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:32pm On Jul 10, 2021
airmark:


I hope you told Raumdeuter, who first used the same google line, this.
person remember after him don submit question paper, wetin you want make the person do tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:54pm On Jul 10, 2021
European Football and Colonialism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HupN9jPuJqE
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Afobear: 4:27pm On Jul 10, 2021
Call be a bloody bastard if Argentina wins Brazil

Call me a fool if Italy wins England
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Afobear: 4:30pm On Jul 10, 2021
Handicap wins for Brazil and England

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:30pm On Jul 10, 2021
BlueAngel444:
person remember after him don submit question paper, wetin you want make the person do tongue

smiley
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:09pm On Jul 10, 2021
raumdeuter:


What should be the role of the state govt or is it just to collect security allowance?

The herdsmen farmer crisis has been going on for as long as I can remember. Its always at the root of those riots in the middle belt even in the 90s
desertification, insecurity and politics just blew it out of control

A herdsman rearing his cattle in free range and a farmer cannot coexist because their businesses are opposite
This Fulani herdsmen crisis did not start with Buhari and will not end with Buhari. Benue Plateau Kogi have been dealing with it for years
Type in google (Fulani attack Benue village + 2012) or any year you want and you are guaranteed to see something gory.

Most cows are owned by rich people all over the country, Northerners and Southerners. The owners provide their herders with guns to "protect" them against cattle rustlers

Well I don't know how much state's security votes are neither do I know how much they spend out of it but states like Lagos have been buying cars and equipment for the police here in Lagos.

I'm not absolving the governors of the blame for collecting security votes and just keeping it to themselves, but issues like state policing and decentralizing the security architecture of this country have always been kicked against in the past until of recent.

Yes herders-farmers crisis has been on for a long time, but asking people to give up their lands for ranching will solve the problem because will not just give up their land instead of the Herders buying them and using it for whatever they want to.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mooojy: 5:24pm On Jul 10, 2021
Disturb:
Italy are missing spinazzola
Check your mail. Urgent
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 5:39pm On Jul 10, 2021
Naysayers.......Greetings from Thiago Silva.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 5:46pm On Jul 10, 2021
BlueRayDick:
Wàhálà be like Błaszczykowski grin
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 5:59pm On Jul 10, 2021
Abeg o, Copa America final, na this night wey go enter 1am (Sunday morning) abi na tomorrow night wey go enter 1am (Monday morning)?

I dey confused.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by UncleHaba22: 6:02pm On Jul 10, 2021
timbros:
Abeg o, Copa America final, na this night wey go enter 1am (Sunday morning) abi na tomorrow night wey go enter 1am (Monday morning)?

I dey confused.

Na this night

Today night
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emmynator(m): 6:17pm On Jul 10, 2021
My take on this farmers herders issue.
The issue has been blown out of proportion and has become the avenue for other criminals to commit crimes under the guise of fulani herdsmen. Most of the fulani looking killers are not primarily herders.
The situation got worse when more killings were attributed to herdsmen and thus hostility towards them became increased, making it difficult for normal herdsmen to move around freely, their rich owners decides to protect their investments by purchasing more guns for their herders. And the situation just gets worse.

The normadic system of herdership is redundant as the cows look skinny from lengthy trekking, cattle herders should more to more efficient ways of rearing their cows.

When RUGA talks came out, i saw some sense in it, except for a few gray areas i thought should be modified to make it better, however what saturated the news was talk of how it was a system that was to be used to establish a fulani dynasty all over Nigeria.

My suggestion is that since cattle herdership is a private business, government to put in place policies to encourage them to change from nomadic style and embrace better ways of rearing cattles, education and enlightenment should be a solid part of the strategy. They should be encouraged to purchase lands for their this enterprises, they best government can do is to subsidize these settlements since it will make them more willing to embrace the system and can result in economic growth.
The problem however is that theorist will arise to discourage people from selling their lands for this purpose, which could pose a real challenge.

All in all, i think more dialogue will go a long way in addressing this issues, with both parties willing to make compromises.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibukzy: 6:29pm On Jul 10, 2021
It's Sunday morning (1a.m)
timbros:
Abeg o, Copa America final, na this night wey go enter 1am (Sunday morning) abi na tomorrow night wey go enter 1am (Monday morning)?

I dey confused.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibukzy: 6:30pm On Jul 10, 2021
Nah
Tommorow morning (1 a.m)
UncleHaba22:


Na this night

Today night
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 6:32pm On Jul 10, 2021
UncleHaba22:


Na this night

Today night

Ibukzy:
It's Sunday morning (1a.m)

Thanks guys.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 6:32pm On Jul 10, 2021
Ibukzy:
Nah
Tommorow morning (1 a.m)

grin grin grin grin

He just put it the Nigerian way. You are correct though

You go confuse Timbros again grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:53pm On Jul 10, 2021
Is any dstv station showing the copa america finals?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 7:01pm On Jul 10, 2021
BlueRayDick:
Is any dstv station showing the copa america finals?
No Sir
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 7:33pm On Jul 10, 2021
Afobear:
Call be a bloody bastard if Argentina wins Brazil

Call me a fool if Italy wins England
Any team that wins between Argentina vs Brazil is a win win situation for me but as for euro Italy must win o.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Disturb: 7:38pm On Jul 10, 2021
mooojy:

Check your mail. Urgent
ohk Sir...


Done
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibukzy: 7:54pm On Jul 10, 2021
grin grin grin
izzou:


grin grin grin grin

He just put it the Nigerian way. You are correct though

You go confuse Timbros again grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 8:22pm On Jul 10, 2021
izzou:


grin grin grin grin

He just put it the Nigerian way. You are correct though

You go confuse Timbros again grin
As in grin

Me self con confuse for Oga Timbros head.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 8:25pm On Jul 10, 2021
izzou:


grin grin grin grin

He just put it the Nigerian way. You are correct though

You go confuse Timbros again grin

grin grin

No blame me jor. I hear "early Monday morning" for radio. The thing just throw me off balance. I guess the radio presenter do mistake, or she sef confuse cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 8:28pm On Jul 10, 2021
Skimpledawg:

As in grin

Me self con confuse for Oga Timbros head.

cheesy cheesy

Na Sports gang for Nigeria Info 92.3 wan confuse me. Lol.

Guy you see that accident for NTA Road wey happen early this morning? angry angry angry 5 youths just waste their lives just like that!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 8:36pm On Jul 10, 2021
Skimpledawg:

As in grin

Me self con confuse for Oga Timbros head.

grin grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 8:37pm On Jul 10, 2021
timbros:


grin grin

No blame me jor. I hear "early Monday morning" for radio. The thing just throw me off balance. I guess the radio presenter do mistake, or she sef confuse cheesy

The thing dey difficult to explain in Nigerian terms.

1am na still night for Nigeria.

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