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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kuruptnigga: 2:51pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
There stages of solving a problem - but it starts with knowing and highlighting the problem. Nigeria is total zoo where the problems are so overwhelming you do not even care to talk about them.

Nairobi slums and people there receive attention. In fact Kibera has more NGOS per capita than any other slum in the world. That is great progress.

Our problems are highlighted because we have robust local and international media that are free to air anything including exaggerated figures.

Now Mpabbe - if not for that brave Youtuber smiley - we would never have known it - we would have thought Abuja had no slums - turn out there are so many slums - and majority of Abuja live there

Mpabe SIT next to Maitama - how can it not be center of Abuja?
Oga you don't know what you're saying. You're basically mad I based in Abuja, Gwarinpa precisely. and you can't tell me anything about Abuja. Mpape is the outskirts of Abuja. Do you know Maitama. That's where most of the politicians, foreigners etc lives. Kibera hosted the world's largest slums. You must be a mad man.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kuruptnigga: 3:01pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
What is your argument. That Mpape is not a slum? or that Abuja has no Slum? You nigerians are just some of the most crazy people I know. Is it a popular slum? Of course NOT. Makoko, Kibera and few others are popular slums. But Mpape is a slum nonetheless. And you need to highlight and fix it - as it keep expanding.
Mpape is a slum to you. But can't be compared to any slums in Kenya. That's what we're saying. And again, Mpape is not anywhere close to the city gate, not to talk of Maitama. You must be a mad man.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kuruptnigga: 3:14pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
It better to show videos - because cherrypicking pictures - is really waste of your time. Mombasa is many decades ahead of Abuja.
Mombasa Is many ahead in your dreams. Hahahaha. Mombasa won't be in top list of developed cities in Nigeria. Port Harcourt is miles ahead of Nairobi.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kuruptnigga: 3:17pm On Jul 20, 2021
obaaderemi:
I must have struck a nerve. wink
Walai grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 3:17pm On Jul 20, 2021
Only a slowpoke can compare Mombasa with Abuja - or Nairobi with Lagos. They are like day and night.
Shma2020:
City ranges from waterbodies to land. Nature is also part of city.

Lemme give you a glimpse of what I'm talking about.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 3:19pm On Jul 20, 2021
I think Mpape slum sit next to Maitima and the disused quary that is now a tourist attraction smiley
Kuruptnigga:
Oga you don't know what you're saying. You're basically mad I based in Abuja, Gwarinpa precisely. and you can't tell me anything about Abuja. Mpape is the outskirts of Abuja. Do you know Maitama. That's where most of the politicians, foreigners etc lives. Kibera hosted the world's largest slums. You must be a mad man.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018:
2014 - Kenya was no 12 in Africa - GDP wise - it had per capita less than 1000 dollars.
Fast forward 2021 - Kenya is now at cusp of overtaking Morocco to become the 5th biggest economy in Africa.
Kenya development and progress is solid, diversified and sustainable.
The reason is obvious - it's BASED ON ZERO NATURAL Resources. It well diversified. Investment in HCI is finally starting to pay off.
Look at this video of Malindi - it empty - Tourism sector the last 2yrs is nearly zero - and yet kenya economy is humming along.
Go sector by sector - and you'll see kenya companies - making huge progress.
Safaricom is now worth more than any Nigerian company - including Dangote. Safaricom is now worth 15-17B dollars - revenues approaching 3B dollars - and profit approaching 1B dollars soon.
Equity Bank(Group) is now worth nearly 11B dollars in total assets - KCB is approaching 10B dollars - COOP 6B dollars with NCBA - total banking asset now 50B dollars (Nigeria merely at 100-110B).
Gov revenues - have more than doubled in 7 yrs - in 2013 - gov taxes annually were 7B dollars - now it approaching 17 billion - ordinary taxes alone. The projection is to hit 25B dollars in 3yrs.
Nairobi city expansion is visible to the naked eye - everywhere is a construction site - and Nairobi has risen to be named 4th most dynamic city in world. Other kenyan towns and cities are seeing similar expnasion.
Infrastructure wise - Mombasa port is handling 1.5M TEUS (more than combined Lagos) - and is now Africa most efficient port beating likes of Durban - as cargo arrives and is transported to Nairobi or elsewhere within 24hrs. That kind of efficiency is seen in many other sectors - and again as per WB Ease of Doing Business - I bet it overtaken Morocco - to be behind super efficient Rwanda and Mauritus.
SGR is done and operational - trasporting more than 5M metric tonnes annually - and road construction is highest ever - with most rural roads in kenya now paved.
Kenya has world fastest electrification - in 2014 - Kenya Power had 2M customers - now it's 8.2M customers - adding 0.6M almost annually - meaning in about 3-4yrs kenya will achieve Universal Electricity Access (only about 3-4 million households to go) - and still stable high quality RENEWABLE electricity

Kenya has highest HCI in Africa - meaning very high quality of education, great health care and related social services. Kenya has nailed demographics and is just 5yrs from demographic divided as it transition to less dependant population.In preparation to next phase - industralization - kenya TIVET (vocational college) enrollment has ratched up to nearly 400-500k students from low base of 100k.

Wait for rebasing - but definitely kenya economy is not growing at 6 percent - it's more than 10 percent

Nothing will bring down kenya well diversified and sustaniable growth - maybe a civil war.

Kenya is about 5yrs from an accelerated growth period to become a proper middle class industralized country - we just need to nail a few more constraints - but definitely we are nearly there.

Tourism is down but nobody even feels it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHHuTYhTICg&t=549s

obaaderemi:
How can I be angry when Kenya GDP was $80bn? I actually laughed. I am still laughing if you have to rebase your economy to achieve $120b .
Everyone knows Kenya GDP is inflated when your economy keeps growing with job losses and rising unemployment.

You've been basing your happiness on projections for years here- Kenya will overtake Morocco, Kenya will overtake Algeria, Kenya's banks will overtake Nigerian banks, etc. grin
None of that has happened up to now and will never happen in your lifetime. Kenya is broke, my boy.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 3:54pm On Jul 20, 2021
Mombasa old town is 10th century old - older than anything in Nigeria or entire West Africa. That drawing of Mombasa old town in 1572.
Vlain:
Liar she never said that. Dynamic Mombasa looks like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skHUmRqebPw

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 4:31pm On Jul 20, 2021
obaaderemi:
Simple question: was Kdf deployed there or not?!!!!!!!!!
Do you have comprehension problems?...Go re-read all my posts
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 4:52pm On Jul 20, 2021
Vlain:
Sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skHUmRqebPw
That is Mombasa old town an architectural conservation site It's a melting point for persian ,Arabic and African Architecture.The buildings you see have not been altered for like 200yrs .it is also set to be gazzeted as Unesco world heritage site.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 5:06pm On Jul 20, 2021
Vlain:
U should dedicate ur time into showing me what ur city looks like not water. This is nyali ur Mombasa best neighborhood for rich folks. Just look how underwhelming and ghetto-like it looks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCC3UMcd1mw
So you went on a drive through nyali using a 3 minutes video ?
That is Nyali shopping center and no where near Nyali estate.Its like going to Karen shopping center and claiming to have gone to Karen neighborhood.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:12pm On Jul 20, 2021
NTSA:
Do you have comprehension problems?...Go re-read all my posts
How hard is it for you to say a simple: Yes or No? grin
Was kdf deployed to northern Kenya because of alshabaab or not?!!!!!!
Vlain, come and carry your friend comot for here o. He has lost his voice. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:24pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
Mombasa old town is 10th century old - older than anything in Nigeria or entire West Africa. That drawing of Mombasa old town in 1572.
Mombasa, founded by Arabs. Mtcheeew.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:26pm On Jul 20, 2021
Lagos founded by Portuguese complete with the name. Why not rename it?
Mombasa was founded by Arabs and Locals - who intermarried and created a new tribe - Swahili

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y73LiBpScDE
obaaderemi:
Mombasa, founded by Arabs. Mtcheeew.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:34pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
2014 - Kenya was no 12 in Africa - GDP wise - it had per capita less than 1000 dollars.
Fast forward 2021 - Kenya is now at cusp of overtaking Morocco to become the 5th biggest economy in Africa.
Kenya development and progress is solid, diversified and sustainable.
The reason is obvious - it's BASED ON ZERO NATURAL Resources. It well diversified. Investment in HCI is finally starting to pay off.
Look at this video of Malindi - it empty - Tourism sector the last 2yrs is nearly zero - and yet kenya economy is humming along.
Go sector by sector - and you'll see kenya companies - making huge progress.
Safaricom is now worth more than any Nigerian company - including Dangote. Safaricom is now worth 15-17B dollars - revenues approaching 3B dollars - and profit approaching 1B dollars soon.
Equity Bank(Group) is now worth nearly 11B dollars in total assets - KCB is approaching 10B dollars - COOP 6B dollars with NCBA - total banking asset now 50B dollars (Nigeria merely at 100-110B).
Gov revenues - have more than doubled in 7 yrs - in 2013 - gov taxes annually were 7B dollars - now it approaching 17 billion - ordinary taxes alone. The projection is to hit 25B dollars in 3yrs.
Nairobi city expansion is visible to the naked eye - everywhere is a construction site - and Nairobi has risen to be named 4th most dynamic city in world. Other kenyan towns and cities are seeing similar expnasion.
Infrastructure wise - Mombasa port is handling 1.5M TEUS (more than combined Lagos) - and is now Africa most efficient port beating likes of Durban - as cargo arrives and is transported to Nairobi or elsewhere within 24hrs. That kind of efficiency is seen in many other sectors - and again as per WB Ease of Doing Business - I bet it overtaken Morocco - to be behind super efficient Rwanda and Mauritus.
SGR is done and operational - trasporting more than 5M metric tonnes annually - and road construction is highest ever - with most rural roads in kenya now paved.
Kenya has world fastest electrification - in 2014 - Kenya Power had 2M customers - now it's 8.2M customers - adding 0.6M almost annually - meaning in about 3-4yrs kenya will achieve Universal Electricity Access (only about 3-4 million households to go) - and still stable high quality RENEWABLE electricity

Kenya has highest HCI in Africa - meaning very high quality of education, great health care and related social services. Kenya has nailed demographics and is just 5yrs from demographic divided as it transition to less dependant population.In preparation to next phase - industralization - kenya TIVET (vocational college) enrollment has ratched up to nearly 400-500k students from low base of 100k.

Wait for rebasing - but definitely kenya economy is not growing at 6 percent - it's more than 10 percent

Nothing will bring down kenya well diversified and sustaniable growth - maybe a civil war.

Kenya is about 5yrs from an accelerated growth period to become a proper middle class industralized country - we just need to nail a few more constraints - but definitely we are nearly there.

Tourism is down but nobody even feels it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHHuTYhTICg&t=549s
Combined teus for Lagos ports is 1.48 m teus in 2020, Mombasa port was 1.4 teus from same period.
Show us link to prove safaricom made a revenue of $3bn last year as you claimed. Thank you.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kuruptnigga: 6:36pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
I think Mpape slum sit next to Maitima and the disused quary that is now a tourist attraction smiley
You're a mad man indeed smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:38pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
Lagos founded by Portuguese complete with the name. Why not rename it?
Mombasa was founded by Arabs and Locals - who intermarried and created a new tribe - Swahili

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y73LiBpScDE
You are desperate. Lagos was founded by locals. Its name is Eko, a Bini word. The Portuguese came hundreds of years later. grin
Mombasa belongs to Arabs and Nairobi was founded by the British. Its impossible for native Kenyans to found anything of note. We established that long ago. From your companies to your cities.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:40pm On Jul 20, 2021
2019 - Mombasa was 1.4M - I believe in 2020 - it rose to 1.5M TEUS.
I said Safaricom revenues are approaching 3B - last I checked it was 2.6B- which you can round off to 3B - as we are projecting here.
obaaderemi:
Combined teus for Lagos ports is 1.48 m teus in 2020, Mombasa port was 1.4 teus from same period.
Show us link to prove safaricom made a revenue of $3bn last year as you claimed. Thank you.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:46pm On Jul 20, 2021
Utter nonsense. So you think Arabs arrived in Mombasa and east coast to find "no people". It found people like Portueguse did in Nigeria - found Africans fishing, farming and doing their things. In Mombasa they entered into alliance with local tribes - and could never dare get into hinterland of Kenya until the British did 20th century - in West Africa - they made you slaves - and exported millions of your people to South and North America.

When it come to doing stuff - please you're JOKE - you cannot even use OIL to get yourself out of morass. You are 2nd to DRC - with 20 trillion of minerals deposit - and YET YOURE WORLD POVERTY CAPITAL - practically nothing works in your country

What do you think Arabs or British brought to kenya? Did they bring gold or oil? They brought nothing and they left us with nothing - what kenyans have achieved is through the sweat of brows and their brains of course.

British left NIgeria with OIL - and all you needed was to manage - but like PURE BONOBOS - you have made every black man the scourge of humanity - from slavery - to now - nigerians are laughing stock of the world - with oil and natural resources - and still begging, selling drugs and sweeping streets abroad if not dying in Sahara and the italian coast.

obaaderemi:
You are desperate. Lagos was founded by locals. Its name is Eko, a Bini word. The Portuguese came hundreds of years later. grin
Mombasa belongs to Arabs and Nairobi was founded by the British. Its impossible for native Kenyans to found anything of note. We established that long ago. From your companies to your cities.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 6:56pm On Jul 20, 2021
obaaderemi:
How hard is it for you to say a simple: Yes or No? grin
Was kdf deployed to northern Kenya because of alshabaab or not?!!!!!!
Vlain, come and carry your friend comot for here o. He has lost his voice. grin
Seems you have comprehension issues let me make it clearer.if you re-read my post this is what I have been saying.
Kdf rarely get any operational deployement Inside kenyan territory .The last operational deployment in Northern Kenya was during shifta war (1960s and 70s .)
As of now there has not been any kdf operation in Northern Kenya .fyi (Lamu is not in Northern Kenya.The lamu archipelago is a group islands along the Kenyan coast near the border with Somalia.)
The lamu operation was in 2014 code named operation" Linda Boni."Which was a multi agency operation not a KDF operation.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 6:58pm On Jul 20, 2021
And you can imagine he is the brighest spark in the box.The rest can barely string a coherent sentence together. The West Africa education standards are truly appalling.
NTSA:
Seems you have comprehension issues let me make it clearer.if you re-read my post this is what I have been saying.
Kdf rarely get any operational deployement Inside kenyan territory .The last operational deployment in Northern Kenya was during shifta war (1960s and 70s .)
As of now there has not been any kdf operation in Northern Kenya .fyi (Lamu is not in Northern Kenya.The lamu archipelago is a group islands along the Kenyan coast near the border with Somalia.)
The lamu operation was in 2014 code named operation" Linda Boni."Which was a multi agency operation not a KDF operation.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by NTSA: 7:18pm On Jul 20, 2021
Kenya's Administration police patrolling Boni forest. They seem better equipped than some African military special forces

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody:
Vlain:
1.When u maintain ur beach it looks nice not the city. U maintain ur beach by controlling plastics disposable along the coast and pollution.those are the kind of thing u do to maintain ur beach. 2.When it come to city,u roll ur sleeves up and get to work. Build road,lay out proper urban planning,take sewer,drainage,building,beautification into consideration. It’s tedious work and it’s requires patience to achieve-not a days jobs. Consistency and quality is the key not beach maintenance.
Vlain:
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I feel like laying my hands on ur face. Always empty. 3.Firstly what do u mean by sea-landscaping? Smh!!!. 4 Secondly are u posting the infrastructure u use in maintaining the so called sea-landscaping cos all I see is pool by the Oceanside. Mama ngina road is like a private road within a confined space. It’s like showing me the roads in Kenyatta university or showing me a trail of road in a big public primary school . Get the difference and stop being a fraud- this deception don’t work on me.
Mr dimwit! You're spewing too much gibberish. As I told you earlier, someone will find it too hard to skim through your verbose to trace the main point. Stop arguing like a KG kid and man up.

Back to the point notwithstanding. I marked key words that I'm going to respond.
1. If the beach connects your capital city, then maintainability should be normalized. Once you leave it in tatterdemalion state, then definitely your city will look shaggy and uncouth.

2. Mombasa has the best sections that you need to catch in Telemundo program to relate. Talk of industrial cities, big sea Ports I mean, the home of two grand Ports in africa outside Egypt, Morocco & SA. International hotels, nice roads, nice buildings, nice rail station and lines.. Name them.

3. There is no 'land scaping' in sea. maybe you missed out the point. I meant to say regions within the sea section.

4. Refer the infrastructure on the pics below.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jul 20, 2021
Vlain:
U should dedicate ur time into showing me what ur city looks like not water. This is nyali ur Mombasa best neighborhood for rich folks. Just look how underwhelming and ghetto-like it looks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCC3UMcd1mw
I expected to see ramshackled roads but men!! That is just normal! I mean, that's what you can see even in the middle of integrated slum city in Lagos. But then again, nope! Mombasa looks pretty much better as compared to your Abuja.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:36pm On Jul 20, 2021
The Zoo

“Nigeria is faced with an unprecedented wave of different but overlapping security crises - from kidnapping to extremist insurgencies - almost every corner of the country has been hit by violence and crime.” - BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-57860993

Jihadist - now pretty much all over Northern Nigeria

According to the UN, by the end of 2020, conflict with the group had led to the deaths of almost 350,000 people and forced millions from their homes.

Boko Haram launches deadly raids, in some cases hoisting its flag and imposing extremist rule on local people. It levies taxes on farms and the sale of agricultural products. The once booming international fish market in the Chad Basin is now completely controlled by the group.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:50pm On Jul 20, 2021
South Africa’s income distribution is the most skewed in the world. Top 10% capture 50.5% & bottom 40% get 7.2% of the national income. Add a racial dimension & it’s a combustible mixture that needs South Africa’s highest nationalist commitment to solve. But what is the solution?

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:56pm On Jul 20, 2021
The Zoo

Our 2020 Budget Implementation Analysis is out!

Debt servicing wiped off 97% (N3.34tn) of FG's total revenue(N3.42tn) in 2020.

Total expenditure stood at N10.01tn. This means nearly all FG’s salaries, overhead & CAPEX were financed with loans & CBN support

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:01pm On Jul 20, 2021
THe ZOO! has no future
10M children are out of school in #Nigeria, an increased of 3M from last year. That is more than the entire populations of 24 African countries. The children are roaming the streets washing car windows instead of getting educated. #AfricaTransformation
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:08pm On Jul 20, 2021
Down in GOLD COAST - still a dream to run away

Report: 55% of Ghanaian children plan on leaving the country in the future https:///3j1cszR
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 9:40pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
Down in GOLD COAST - still a dream to run away

Report: 55% of Ghanaian children plan on leaving the country in the future https:///3j1cszR
No Ghanaian kid will reject the opportunity to go to Europe or the US for further education....

Thats to tell you how highly educated, Ghanaians are..

The interesting thing is, 90% of them choose to come back..
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:57pm On Jul 20, 2021
No they are not going for further education; they know Ghana is so hopeless; the only way to make in live is to leave their loved ones in Ghana and go abroad; this is so indoctrinated that 55 percent of kids think it's way of life.

Fix your country - using the gold and other minerals - and maybe in the future - Ghanians will feel they do not need to go abroad.

This kenya girl was in Ghana and she was suprised. And the reason is Ghana is hopeless - low salaries - in Kenya you can make as much in kenya as money abroad - and get as good education

Listen from 5 mins; Where she talks about brain drain in your hopeless country; listen to her on education standards; and she pretty compressed all our arguments in that short video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQXi4gAj-U

Just30:
No Ghanaian kid will reject the opportunity to go to Europe or the US for further education....

Thats to tell you how highly educated, Ghanaians are..

The interesting thing is, 90% of them choose to come back..
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:01pm On Jul 20, 2021
rvp2018:
No they are not going for further education; they know Ghana is so hopeless; the only way to make in live is to leave their loved ones in Ghana and go abroad; this is so indoctrinated that 55 percent of kids think it's way of life.

Fix your country - using the gold and other minerals - and maybe in the future - Ghanians will feel they do not need to go abroad.

This kenya girl was in Ghana and she was suprised. And the reason is Ghana is hopeless - low salaries - in Kenya you can mark as much money abroad - and get as good education

Listen from 5 mins;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQXi4gAj-U
Too bad Ghana is not hopeless hence why they all return after their education....

Funny enough, Ghanaian earn more money and make more money than the average kenyan...

Hence why Ghanaians have better quality and standard of living than kenyans...

Maybe one day you guys will catch up and live as good as Ghanaians but that day is not now...

Let me know when you return from the dream you are in
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