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Just30:
Too bad Ghana is not hopeless hence why they all return after their education....

Funny enough, Ghanaian earn more money and make more money than the average kenyan...

Hence why Ghanaians have better quality and standard of living than kenyans...

Maybe one day you guys will catch up and live as good as Ghanaians but that day is not now...

Shma2020:
I expected to see ramshackled roads but men!! That is just normal! I mean, that's what you can see even in the middle of integrated slum city in Lagos. But then again, nope! Mombasa looks pretty much better as compared to your Abuja.

rvp2018:
Listen to this video - before looping - madman. The Ghanian income is probably inflated by minerals like you find in Nigeria - otherwise your country remain hopeless despite literally being named gold coast.

She has been in Ghana long enough to pass judgment on your infrastructure, real estate, education, brain drain - and she is absolutely correct

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQXi4gAj-U

Just30:
Lunatic

Tell me how Ghanaians personal income are inflated by minerals...

Now you are making excuses for why your country should be paying it citizens peanuts...

We dont pay people peanuts here and that makes living in Ghana comfortable ...

The person you are posting videos from has run out of Kenya to come and live in Ghana because of the higher salaries she receives in Ghana.....

Ghana has a massive abundance of brains... and massive better infrastructure to make her escape Kenya for better life in Ghana...

So far, your country Kenya has not been able to surpass Ghana in any infrastructure....


NExt joke


You are talking about capitalist and private businesses meanwhile Ghana is the HQ of private businesses, no country on the continent as many private businesses as Ghana....

Ghanaian women rant first in the entire world in the ownership of private businesses....

Joke is on you, The houses that Ghanaian women put up, Kenyan men and women combine cant put anything similar up?

Just30:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJa-1LnmreA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvSkT3p9Q4U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eok8H3amn3w

rvp2018:
No she is coming there to dominate your communist lazy uneducated behind. That is what Kenya do. Ask your communist friend Tanzania.
No wonder Nigerians come to Ghana to operate shops, taxis and run basic stuff.
Kwame really messed you.

rvp2018:
Why do you call social or low class housing - luxurious. Eti Ghana Women - do you really know how enteprising kenyans are?

Just30:
see this kid from a lazy country where they can't own anything except living in slums which is they onlything they can own...

Tell me home she will dominate in a country where she is just an employee?

Kwame is the best thing that happens to your country Kenya, he birthed Kenya while Kenyans were still thirsty for the blood of their fellow kenyans..

Just30:
Kenyans are obviously not enterprising when everything in Kenya is either owned by an Indian, a Chinese of an European

They are luxurious because they offer better quality luxury finishing and every single apartment has a lift...unlike the low life crap you guys put up

Just30:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB4hz8MnE1Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9zm6hNwdpA

rvp2018:
She already described your countrymen as slothful, indolent, obtuse and plaid - and she describes the incredible opportunities in your economy - because everyone is trying to run away - instead of providing solutions - and she is there definitely to dominate you and have fun while at it.

Kwame did JACK in kenya. We rejected his socialist nonsense. Kenyans fought for their independence in an armed struggle and got it rest of Africa with help of Americans.

rvp2018:
Where do you get that idea that Kenya real estate are own by Indian or Chinese or Europeans? It very normal for a normal kenyan to own apartments.

rvp2018:
The last is better - baby steps - look like you're just in 1980s.

Just30:


Kwame give Kenya lawyers, Doctors, Judges, Nurses, Teachers, Engineers, Soldiers, Police, Bankers and so many others because Kenyans were not educated enough to handle a country on their own.. And guess what, Ghanaian tax payers pay for it...

Kenyans were castrated for being weak while Kwame was busy fighting for your independence...

Your sisters here, including this one, cant even compete with recently graduated kids who are already owning their own businesses...

She was employed by a recent out of uni kid ..... If she is smart enough, she should create her own business ( I heard, that is strange for kenyans)

rvp2018:
Please re-read your history again. I know Ghanian like to console themselves that cause of their mess is them shouldering other countries no. NOT Kenya.

As part of our independence - we asked the Americans to provide us educational opportunities - John F Kennedy and Martin Luther King - listen to Tom Mboya - and granted 800 Kenyans - scholarship to the best universities in US - IVY League like Harvard (Obama father).

800 kenyans left in 1959 - to the best US universities- and they nearly ALL came back in 1963 - when kenya got independence - ready to take over from White and Asian civil services. This is why we fared better than most Africans.

Ghanians and Ugandans who came to kenya - came later in 1970s-1980s - as refugees escaping war. The Ghanians and Nigerians were handful - but most were Ugandans who became high school teachers.

Just30:
Ghana has never had a war

Next big lie to make you feel better about your country....


About 40% of judges, lawyers, Doctors and Teachers in your country, during pre-independence and 10 years into independence were Ghanaians......

The reason why kenya fare badly compare to most African countries was the fact that kenya was largely uneducated and so deeply rooted in tribal nonsense....

Kenya immediately became a bastard case after independence

rvp2018:
Only a slowpoke can compare Mombasa with Abuja - or Nairobi with Lagos. They are like day and night.

rvp2018:
I think Mpape slum sit next to Maitima and the disused quary that is now a tourist attraction

rvp2018:
You had several coups - that is war. You were all over Africa escaping Ghana. Your country became broke in 1962 long before kenya became independent...and from 1960 to 1985 - I think average growth was 1 percent . Kenya on the contrary was growing at 7 percent on average from 1963 until the Oil crisis of 1984. There was brief one year in 1972 Oil crisis - but Kenya was growing as fast as Asian Tigers - only problem our population was world fastest growing at 4 percent plus. By mid 1980s - we realized we had been doing zero work - and we began to address our population growth.

Please do not be a joker - Kenya pre-independence was RUN BY BRITISH. This was a direct colony with 200,000 white britons - settled in 2 million acres of land. There were few Asians (indians).Why would British - hire uneducated Ghanians in their civil services?

After our independence - we allowed the British to choose to remain or go back - about 20,000 remain - majority run to South Africa, Zim, Australia and some back to England unable to countenance a black rule.

Those who remained- continued in civil services - as educated Kenyans slowly filled their slot.

rvp2018:
Mombasa old town is 10th century old - older than anything in Nigeria or entire West Africa. That drawing of Mombasa old town in 1572.

NTSA:
So you went on a drive through nyali using a 3 minutes video ?
That is Nyali shopping center and no where near Nyali estate.Its like going to Karen shopping center and claiming to have gone to Karen neighborhood.

Just30:
This is the first time in history that bloodless coups have been described as a war, do you know what a war is?

Explain how kenya was growing at 7% and still couldn't catch up to Ghana from the 60s all the way to today, economically.

Explain why Kenya was so poor such that it because the global HQ for aid delivery...when ever people wanted to talk about aid for Africa, they took pics of starving kenyans....

Explain how Ghana got broke in the 60s yet it was still paying civil and public servants working in Kenya, for kenyans

The British were busy hiring Ghanaians in 1880s because of how educated we were, by the early 1900s there were so many educated Ghanaians everywhere and that is why Ghanaians were running kenya during pre-independence and after.

Shma2020:
Mr dimwit! You're spewing too much gibberish. As I told you earlier, someone will find it too hard to skim through your verbose to trace the main point. Stop arguing like a KG kid and man up.

Back to the point notwithstanding. I marked key words that I'm going to respond.
1. If the beach connects your capital city, then maintainability should be normalized. Once you leave it in tatterdemalion state, then definitely your city will look shaggy and uncouth.

2. Mombasa has the best sections that you need to catch in Telemundo program to relate. Talk of industrial cities, big sea Ports I mean, the home of two grand Ports in africa outside Egypt, Morocco & SA. International hotels, nice roads, nice buildings, nice rail station and lines.. Name them.

3. There is no 'land scaping' in sea. maybe you missed out the point. I meant to say regions within the sea section.

4. Refer the infrastructure on the pics below.

Shma2020:
Mr dimwit! You're spewing too much gibberish. As I told you earlier, someone will find it too hard to skim through your verbose to trace the main point. Stop arguing like a KG kid and man up.

Back to the point notwithstanding. I marked key words that I'm going to respond.
1. If the beach connects your capital city, then maintainability should be normalized. Once you leave it in tatterdemalion state, then definitely your city will look shaggy and uncouth.

2. Mombasa has the best sections that you need to catch in Telemundo program to relate. Talk of industrial cities, big sea Ports I mean, the home of two grand Ports in africa outside Egypt, Morocco & SA. International hotels, nice roads, nice buildings, nice rail station and lines.. Name them.

3. There is no 'land scaping' in sea. maybe you missed out the point. I meant to say regions within the sea section.

4. Refer the infrastructure on the pics below.

rvp2018:
First with your level of education or lack of it - you'd not understand. The lady says the houses in Maitima and big houses are mostly empty. This Sani Abacha Potemkin village - that created at huge expense - a city for civil servants - that has failed to become a dynamic city - everyone else in Abuja has to do with slums.

"Potemkin village" signifies any deceptive or false construct, conjured often by cruel regimes, to deceive both those within the land and those peering in from outside.

rvp2018:
If were engaging in intellectually stimulating conversation, it would be interesting.

Kwame Nkurummah went communism/socialiasm as soon as Ghana got independence - went on to invest in Volta dam - Ghana became so bankrupt - Nkurmah was kicked out by 1962 - and died in the neigberhouring country.

Ghana would for the next two decades grow at 1-2 percent - ending in 1984 famine - Ghana would continue in the same morass - for I think another decade until recently.

Now remember this Ghana that was called GOLD COAST - but that did not prevent Ghana from mess that saw Ghana Bags (even in kenya - those bags are called Ghana MUST GO bags ) .

Move on to Kenya. Kenya got independence in 1963 - as direct colony - the Kenya civil services were one with London civil services - budget was from London - and name it.

Kenya as preparation took 800 to US - and USSR also tried to take many kenyans to East German and Russia - to study - in preperation for independence.

We got nothing from Ghana - in human resources or other resources.

Now kenya grew very fast - by making critical decisions 1) Capitialism 2) Kenya realize having no natural resources - it resolve to invest in HIGH POTENTIAL AREAS - HIGH PAYBACK - this called 1970 sessional paper or something.

What happens - kenya got into very high growth rate for more than 2 decades - of average 7 percent.

But in end - kenya LOW Potential Areas - Turkanas, Somalis - about 2/3 of kenya land mass - got almost zero investment - they became poor and hungry like Ghanians.

Kenya decided to invest in high potential areas and ignore or marginalized huge part of kenya.

What happeneded - those low potential area remained poor - and the high potential areas - were undone by population.

Anyway this waste of time - you're TOO obtuse.

rvp2018:
Kenya economy was anchored by London School of Economics(LSE) trained economist Finance minister Kibaki (later president) and Tom Mboya - who developed 1965 Kenya sessional paper no 10 - Sessional Paper Number 10 on African Socialism and its Application to Planning" - like we now have VIsion 2030.

This was the thinking of two greatest kenyans - the economic blueprint that kenya would use for next two decades.
http://www.treasury.gov.za/coopbank/publications/Kenya%20document.pdf

“One of our problems is to decide how much priority we should give in investing in less developed
provinces . To make the economy as a whole grow as fast as possible, development money should
be invested where it will yield the largest increase in output. This approach will clearly favour the
development of areas having abundant natural resources, good land and rainfall, transport and
power facilities, and people receptive to and active in development. A million pounds invested in
one area may raise net output by £20,000 while its use in another may yield an increase of
£100,000. This is a clear case in which investment in the second area is the wise decision because
the country is £80,000 per annum better off by so doing and is therefore in a position to aid the
first area by making grants or subsidized loans .